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hellblazer
06-18-2007, 11:51 PM
Salvador Sanchez vs Floyd Mayweather Jr @ 130? Who wins?

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Lance_Uppercut
06-18-2007, 11:56 PM
Floyd KO 1...

There, I saved you nuthuggers the trouble.:rofl

Lance_Uppercut
06-19-2007, 12:09 AM
Uh oh, it's midnight on the dot and like clockwork the creature from the dark abyss crawleth out once more to stain the world with its miserable filth and bitter hatred of the man that destroyed all its favorite fighters, Floyd Mayweather. :yep

:lol: Whatever child. I was here rooting for Floyd YEARS before you started suckin his balls.

Lance_Uppercut
06-19-2007, 12:15 AM
Is that right. And out of curiosity, how long has that been, that you were rooting for him? Just curious.

Since he turned pro. I was blown away by his ability to make top gus look like lesser opponents. WHen he was cleaning out 130 and moved to 135, I posted he's already a HOFer. Wasn't all that long ago there really weren't too many Floyd fans on the board either. WHen he was still at 130/135, I said I would pick him over Kostya Tszyu, when KT was the 140 champ. The he decided to be a 'business man' instead of a prize fighter and bacame even MORE hard to listen too in interviews. I don't know why the fuck fans give a shit about his business decisions or what makes him the MOST money. You don't see a fuckin dime...

Lance_Uppercut
06-19-2007, 12:17 AM
And for the record, I would have to go with Floyd. Sanchez was a great featherweight, not a super feather. But anyone who beats Azumah Nelson would at lest give Floyd a tough fight IMHO.

Thread Stealer
06-19-2007, 12:33 AM
I love Sanchez, but I wouldn't FAVOR anyone at 130 over Floyd. I would have some maybe even, but wouldn't really favor any I don't think. I think Floyd outboxes Sanchez, although Sanchez IS capable of giving Floyd trouble and maybe even winning. My money is on Floyd though.

I'd probably make J.C. Chavez a slight favorite over Mayweather at 130.

Floyd over Arguello.
Chavez over Floyd.
Arguello over Chavez.

aliwasthegreatest
06-19-2007, 12:50 AM
sanchez was great but he gets a little overrated based on his early passing i think. i think floyd UDs him in a tough but comforitable fight

sues2nd
06-19-2007, 01:10 AM
Well this isnt a fair assessment. Sanchez never fought at 130 so....who knows. Do I think he has all the tools to beat him...HELL YES. But again, you never know how a certain fighter will handle extra weight.

Sanchez was fantastic...one of my all time favorites. But I just dont know....

psychopath
06-19-2007, 01:32 AM
Sanchez is a 126 guy but I'm giving him more than a fair chance to beat PBF. He was only 23 when he passed away but he already have victories against 2 great fighters, Wilfredo Gomez and Azuman Nelson.

Good footwork, fast hands, can be a slugger and a good counter puncher . . . it's gonna be a very competitive fight, a very close one.

Titan1
06-19-2007, 06:44 PM
Salvador was a great fighter, but I think Floyd just outboxes him at this weight.

Ramshall1
06-19-2007, 06:45 PM
Floyd would only fight him when he turned 35.

joito3
06-19-2007, 07:12 PM
sanchez was a great 126lber however azumah nelson troubled him before he stopped nelson....nelson only had 13 fights at the time

at 130 floyd destroys him easily

hellblazer
06-21-2007, 06:00 AM
Wow! Sanchez 21, Floyd 11 :bbb

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VX.Nefarious
10-19-2011, 06:45 AM
Sanchez via stoppage 15 round fight

WhataRock
10-19-2011, 07:53 AM
sanchez was a great 126lber however azumah nelson troubled him before he stopped nelson....nelson only had 13 fights at the time

at 130 floyd destroys him easily

By fighting him in a way Floyd never would.

I still think Floyd takes a competitive and clear cut decision..."destroys him easily" though :rofl.

SJS19
10-19-2011, 07:57 AM
We never even saw the best of Sanchez, at 26/27 this dude would of been scary.

saul_ir34
10-19-2011, 09:51 AM
sanchez was a great 126lber however azumah nelson troubled him before he stopped nelson....nelson only had 13 fights at the time

at 130 floyd destroys him easily

Someone needs to ban Ellerbe....

PBF does not stop Sanchez. Dude had a beard. He took everything Lopez and Gomez could dish out and still knocked them out.

This would be an awesome fight though and a tough one to call. Salvador was special. He is the true story of what could have been. People can use this as an argument but look at who this kid beat by the age of 23?? Who had PF beaten by 23??? Hell has he even beaten anyone as good as Lopez, Gomez, Nelson???

Pimp C
10-19-2011, 10:06 AM
PBF is the GOAT at 130 and beats Sanchez there.

JMP
10-19-2011, 10:13 AM
Mayweather's a bad stylistic matchup for Sal. I'd be very confident betting on Floyd at 130.

PowerPuncher
10-19-2011, 10:20 AM
And for the record, I would have to go with Floyd. Sanchez was a great featherweight, not a super feather. But anyone who beats Azumah Nelson would at lest give Floyd a tough fight IMHO.

Genaro Hernandez didn't :D

saul_ir34
10-19-2011, 10:29 AM
PBF is the GOAT at 130 and beats Sanchez there.

Oh yes his great victories over Hernandez, Manfreddy, Corrales and Jesus Chavez cement his 130 superiority. Those are the 4 biggest names he beat at 130. How does that make him the GOAT at 130??
Morales probably has a better 130 resume than PBF.
Arguello also.

By the way Chavez stops PBF at 130.

JM22
10-19-2011, 10:32 AM
Floyd KO 1...

There, I saved you nuthuggers the trouble.:rofl:lol:

JM22
10-19-2011, 10:33 AM
By the way Chavez stops PBF at 130.:deal

Henke67
10-19-2011, 10:37 AM
I'd go with Floyd.

Not only is this a step-up in weight for Sanchez but he never fought anyone with the style of Floyd. Sal was a superb fighter - great technique, counter-punching skills, knockout power and a chin. Anyone as great as him is going to make it tough but I think Mayweather decisions him in the end.

I have Floyd as the #1 Super-Featherweight ever though and I favour him H2H over anyone there (I give JCC the best chance of beating him).

I'd have loved Sanchez-Arguello at 130 though, one of my all-time favourite fantasy fights.

Pimp C
10-19-2011, 10:53 AM
Oh yes his great victories over Hernandez, Manfreddy, Corrales and Jesus Chavez cement his 130 superiority. Those are the 4 biggest names he beat at 130. How does that make him the GOAT at 130??
Morales probably has a better 130 resume than PBF.
Arguello also.

By the way Chavez stops PBF at 130.

Of course you would say that dumb shit PBF is the best defensive fighter of this era. JCC doesn't stop shit if anything he would be frustrated as hell PBF has too much speed defense pop movement and ring generalship for JCC at 130 he was the GOAT there.:deal Quite simply he boxes the socks off of JCC who is a bit overrated. I don't understand why you're bringing up EM he would get beat by PBF at 130 as well. PBF's resume at 130 is great he basically cleaned out the entire division.

Pimp C
10-19-2011, 10:54 AM
:deal
:nono
PBF UD JCC:deal

JM22
10-19-2011, 11:10 AM
:nono
PBF UD JCC:deal:nono
JCC at 130 and 135 was 7 times the fighter Castillo ever was, do I have to say more? :D

Pimp C
10-19-2011, 11:11 AM
JCC at 130 and 135 was 5 times the fighter Castillo ever was, do I have to say more? :D
What does that have to do with anything? PBF is 2-0 against JLC.:good

JM22
10-19-2011, 11:18 AM
What does that have to do with anything? PBF is 2-0 against JLC.:goodEver heard of styles make fight's?

Well that's what I thought about Castillo since he was the only one to give Mayweather fits.


Castillo had the right style to give Mayweather nightmares and we saw that in the 2 close fight's they had Chavez was years MUCH better then Castillo. :good

Kush
10-19-2011, 11:23 AM
Sanchez by ko. Sanchez skills make Floyd look like Margarito

El Bujia
10-19-2011, 11:47 AM
We never even saw the best of Sanchez, at 26/27 this dude would of been scary.Says who?

saul_ir34
10-19-2011, 11:52 AM
Of course you would say that dumb shit PBF is the best defensive fighter of this era. JCC doesn't stop shit if anything he would be frustrated as hell PBF has too much speed defense pop movement and ring generalship for JCC at 130 he was the GOAT there.:deal Quite simply he boxes the socks off of JCC who is a bit overrated. I don't understand why you're bringing up EM he would get beat by PBF at 130 as well. PBF's resume at 130 is great he basically cleaned out the entire division.

Ha his resume is great at 130??? Its good. Not great. Which one of the guys he beat at 130 is an ATG? Manfreddy?? Hernandez?? J. Chavez?? Morales beat Pac at 130 which is better than anything PBF did at that weight.

Is he going to beat him as bad as he beat Castillo?? Castillo was JCC sparring partner son. Just stop. stop....

saul_ir34
10-19-2011, 11:53 AM
Says who?

Hey dont be mad at sanchez. be Mad at Gomez. He is the one that let you down....

JCC_is_overated
10-19-2011, 11:54 AM
mayweather checkhooks ko that mexican Ricky hatton

JCC_is_overated
10-19-2011, 11:56 AM
We never even saw the best of Sanchez, at 26/27 this dude would of been scary.

if vargas died before the tito fight im sure u would be saying the same for him

El Bujia
10-19-2011, 11:57 AM
Hey dont be mad at sanchez. be Mad at Gomez. He is the one that let you down....I'm not mad at anyone, I just think it's much more likely that Sanchez would've gone off the rails within a couple of years than go on to have a long and prosperous career (which tends to happen to pretty much everyone who starts out and flourishes so young). He was already clearly as good as he was ever going to get, that much is readily evident by his championship reign. He never once topped his performance against Danny Lopez to win the belt, and seemed to stall out towards the end against the likes of Pat Cowdell and Patrick Ford, before being taken to the brink by a novice Azumah Nelson. If anything doesn't make sense, it's the suggestion that he was still improving.

saul_ir34
10-19-2011, 12:00 PM
I'm not mad at anyone, I just think it's much more likely that Sanchez would've gone off the rails within a couple of years than go on to have a long and prosperous career (which tends to happen to pretty much everyone who starts out and flourishes so young). He was already clearly as good as he was ever going to get, that much is readily evident by his championship reign. He never once topped his performance against Danny Lopez to win the belt, and seemed to stall out towards the end against the likes of Pat Cowdell and Patrick Ford, before being taken to the brink by a novice Azumah Nelson. If anything doesn't make sense, it's the suggestion that he was still improving.

So at 23 he was peaked??? No way. If he was a fighter who relied in speed and power then yes but he was a counter puncher. That style as we all know peaks later in life. I definitely thing he would have gone on to be better than Chavez. The fight was being talked about before he passed.
What could have been.....

Kush
10-19-2011, 12:05 PM
BB up to his old tricks again :rofl

Pimp C
10-19-2011, 12:07 PM
Ha his resume is great at 130??? Its good. Not great. Which one of the guys he beat at 130 is an ATG? Manfreddy?? Hernandez?? J. Chavez?? Morales beat Pac at 130 which is better than anything PBF did at that weight.

Is he going to beat him as bad as he beat Castillo?? Castillo was JCC sparring partner son. Just stop. stop....

Who cares if he was a sparring partner? Holmes was Ali's sparring partner. Mosley was Oscar's sparring partner for PBF. Khan was Pac's sparring partner. Just because you're a sparring partner doesn't mean you can't be a great fighter in your own right.

El Bujia
10-19-2011, 12:19 PM
So at 23 he was peaked??? No way. If he was a fighter who relied in speed and power then yes but he was a counter puncher. That style as we all know peaks later in life.What of Wilfred Benitez then?

Here's a test. Go over the careers of any fighter that accomplished so much at such a young age as Sanchez (or even close), and notice the pattern regarding what ages they started to fall off. He was peaked at 23 because he'd already built up a world of experience by then (10 title fights, 5 15 rounders), having started his career at just 16 years of age, with no fine-tuning the way today's fighters get brought along. These are the things which cause a fighter to age quickly. Their bodies and minds aren't carefully moved along and primed for their supposed peak years, they're already going in full force at the same time most fighters are still learning their craft.

If that isn't enough, just watch his title reign. His title-winning performance against Danny Lopez remains the most impressive of his entire career, whereas he was struggling with the likes of the aforementioned Cowdell and Pat Ford (who Eusebio Pedroza would subsequently destroy) by the end of it. Point to any fights where he showed any improvements in counter-punching or whatever have you during the duration of his title reign.

I definitely thing he would have gone on to be better than Chavez. The fight was being talked about before he passed. No, it wasn't. Chavez was a total novice at the time Sanchez died. He wasn't even on the radar. The fights that were being talked about were a unification bout with Eusebio Pedroza and a move up in weight against Alexis Arguello.

What could have been.....Considering the fights that loomed on the horizon (the above fights, along with a rematch with a primed Nelson), and what they could and most likely would have taken out of him (even if he did manage to win a couple), I don't think he was going much further. I've spoken to die-hard Sanchez enthusiasts and reliable boxing minds that agree with me. This "what could've been" stuff is the typical cliche you hear from the casual boxing fan, not somebody who closely followed or studied Sanchez's arc as a fighter.

JM22
10-19-2011, 12:48 PM
mayweather checkhooks ko that mexican Ricky hatton

if vargas died before the tito fight im sure u would be saying the same for himWhy is this dumbass noob still here???

thanosone
10-19-2011, 05:55 PM
Sanchez was a master. I think it was Roy Jones that said Sanchez did stuff he only dream of doing.

Bill Butcher
10-19-2011, 06:07 PM
Sanchez never fought at 130, my GUESS would be that he would handle the extra 4 lbs fine, he was always in phenomenal shape & (at least to my eyes) had the build to move up without losing anything.

I`d pick Sanchez over Mayweather in a close decision, Floyd has never met a fighter with the accuracy or counter-punching ability of Sal (vice versa is also true) but Sanchez threw more punches & had insane stamina as well, he could match FMJ inside or outside, it would be a great technical match-up but Sanchez would outwork Floyd & would walk thru anything Floyd landed to pull away in the late rounds.

Sanchez has the best stamina of any fighter I`ve ever seen, Floyd is up there too in that department I admit but Sanchez did it while being more active & against better opponents.

left right left
10-19-2011, 06:36 PM
Sanchez, because he a.) has the stamina and strength, even at 130 and b.) he wouldn't be intimidated by the spoiled brat.

See Mayweather- Castillo I