Expectations on Bute vs Joppy?

[ChrisPontius]

Not much talk about this fight. What do you expect?

[Shaolin Box]

Dont know much about Bute but Joppy is washed up

[FlatNose]

A contender against a has been.

[MasterFlo]

I just hope it's entertaining because in about 10 hours I'll be watching it.

[laffie]

A contender against a has been.

A champion is not a contender anymore.

[laffie]

Not much talk about this fight. What do you expect?

I don't know what Bute wants to do. Play with him a little while (5 or 6 rounds) and the finish him? Finish him as soon as possible? Take no risk and stay on the outside?

We'll know in a couple of hours.

[Shaolin Box]

A champion is not a contender anymore.

I only recognize one champion in that division and thats Pavlik. All others are contenders. He may have a belt but he's not the recognized champ

[Boyd]

I only recognize one champion in that division and thats Pavlik. All others are contenders. He may have a belt but he's not the recognized champwrong division my man.

[Alcaldemb]

I only recognize one champion in that division and thats Pavlik. All others are contenders. He may have a belt but he's not the recognized champ

You are aware Bute is at 168?

As far as this fight I think Joppy will get punished.

[pioterbezkitu]

I just hope Bute won't fight safe, he should mix it up a bit

[Shaolin Box]

Shows how much i know about this guy. Okay so replace Pavlik with JC. same thing

[Decebal]

Shows how much i know about this guy. Okay so replace Pavlik with JC. same thing

JC has moved to LHW, mate...try again!:D

[Sick bastard]

Joppy on a stretcher in the 7Th round.

[Decebal]

Anything but an impressive performance with a win by stoppage at the end will be not good enough. Bute needs to show an improved defence, a better jab, more precision and, generally, more of a fighting spirit.

I predict Bute KO 6.

[Iron Mick Titan]

Not much talk about this fight. What do you expect?
low expectations:yep

[laffie]

Shows how much i know about this guy. Okay so replace Pavlik with JC. same thing


If I were you, I would not be proud to be ignorant.

[fitzgeraldz]

Bute by Decision -- there will be no knockouts
Joppy despite being old and past his prime has a solid chin and a solid jab. He's only been stopped once and has been in the ring with some good fighters and the fact that he's been a two time champion will give him the stones to stay in the fight.

[Shaolin Box]

JC has moved to LHW, mate...try again!:D
He's still the SMW champion.

[Shaolin Box]

If I were you, I would not be proud to be ignorant.

I wouldn't say that I'm ignorant but rather i dont waste my time watching CONTENDERS like Bute. Has he fought a name yet? Joppy is probably his biggest name so that says alot.

[PH|LLA]

basically a prime contender against a shot ex-contender. Bute will win bigtime

[ChrisPontius]

On a sidenote, does anyone know what time it starts?

[Decebal]

It starts in 8 and a half hours, at 22:20 EST

[jc]

I cant expect anything but a one sided beat down.

bute will win every round before stopping him in 6 or 7.

Joppy was very talented at his peak, but is completely shot to shit now.

[Decebal]

I also assume he is shot to bits, but cannot tell exactly how shot he is, yet. We'll see. In any case, even if he were shot, he should have enough to test Bute for a couple of rounds...remember Reid v. Froch? Reid made Froch look silly at times...Joppy will try to do the same. I don't see why he shouldn't manage to...The early rounds will be telling enough about Bute's development. Of course, later on, Joppy will fade badly...but to me, that is not so important.

[pipe wrenched]

I expect Bute to put a serious ass whoopin on old Joppy, and thanks to the Canadian networks I'll get to watch it free and legally on my PC.


WAR....BUTE!!!


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[jc]

I also assume he is shot to bits, but cannot tell exactly how shot he is, yet. We'll see. In any case, even if he were shot, he should have enough to test Bute for a couple of rounds...remember Reid v. Froch? Reid made Froch look silly at times...Joppy will try to do the same. I don't see why he shouldn't manage to...The early rounds will be telling enough about Bute's development. Of course, later on, Joppy will fade badly...but to me, that is not so important.

I dont think this will be the fight in which we can tell how far bute will go, unless ofcourse he struggles in some bad way or loses ofcourse.

I see this being so easy that LB wont be tested, he may even be underrating Joppy if anything, thay really is Willies only chance.

Im going to let this defence go, as its his first one and its okay for champs to have a gimme once and a while, but he has to take a serious step up next time round. I want a realy top ten guy.

[Decebal]

I expect Bute to put a serious ass whoopin on old Joppy, and thanks to the Canadian networks I'll get to watch it free and legally on my PC.


WAR....BUTE!!!


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[Decebal]

I dont think this will be the fight in which we can tell how far bute will go, unless ofcourse he struggles in some bad way or loses ofcourse.

I see this being so easy that LB wont be tested, he may even be underrating Joppy if anything, thay really is Willies only chance.

Im going to let this defence go, as its his first one and its okay for champs to have a gimme once and a while, but he has to take a serious step up next time round. I want a realy top ten guy.

Joppy may be shot, but he is not incompetent. He fought some of the very best in his time, so he must have learned a thing or two. Bute is a slow starter. Bika won the first couple of rounds quite clearly. I still think we'll be able to guage Bute's progress from this fight, by watching the first couple of rounds closely.

Yeah, Bute will fight Andrade next, if he gets past Stieglitz. Andrade is tough stylistically for Bute and he is a top 10 guy.

[laffie]

I wouldn't say that I'm ignorant but rather i dont waste my time watching CONTENDERS like Bute. Has he fought a name yet? Joppy is probably his biggest name so that says alot.


If you really like boxing, looking at young boxers is not a waste of time. :huh But hey, be patient, de la Hoya-Mayweather next boring fight is coming in about 6 months.

[jc]

I actually rated Joppy very highly. Alot higher than most.

but he is well past it, hasnt fought at world level since losing to Taylor in 2004, and a natural middleweight.

I see no excuses for a bad performance from bute.

[Boyd]

i could see the ref stopping it if bute is beating him badly and gets him against the ropes with one of his 20 punch flurries.

[LiamE]

If Bute doesnt win this in convincing fashion he is going to have a hard time getting taken seriously by anyone.

[Boyd]

If Bute doesnt win this in convincing fashion he is going to have a hard time getting taken seriously by anyone.i wouldn't go that far. he is a champion. plus there is no chance of him getting outpointed by joppy. but joppy is a tough SOB so iwouldn't be surprised to see it go the distance.

[lzolnier]

Too bad this fight is not televised from the Bell Center, in Montreal.

Rant:
I have an FTA satellite, where I can view all the televised boxing events in the US, and the difference in boxing coverage between the US and here is striking.Canadians are lucky if they can get a major fight shown on pay-per-view or a replay a WEEK LATER on TSN. Shame on TSN and other Canadian sport networks for showing such poor support for boxing, especially when it occurs in their own backyard as this fight is. When it comes to boxing, Canada is a Medieval village in the dark ages with Canadian boxing fans being starved, like peasants.

[Maxime]

Too bad this fight is not televised from the Bell Center, in Montreal.

Rant:
I have an FTA satellite, where I can view all the televised boxing events in the US, and the difference in boxing coverage between the US and here is striking.Canadians are lucky if they can get a major fight shown on pay-per-view or a replay a WEEK LATER on TSN. Shame on TSN and other Canadian sport networks for showing such poor support for boxing, especially when it occurs in their own backyard as this fight is. When it comes to boxing, Canada is a Medieval village in the dark ages with Canadian boxing fans being starved, like peasants.

1- The fight will be on tv in Canada for free.

2- It will also be on the internet live for free.

[Fightfan of Mtl]

Hey people, I'm just getting ready to leave for tonight's party. Even if it's not a great matchup, it's our first opportunity to celebrate our CHAMPION LUCIAN BUTE. And it should be a great gala with a more than decent undercard and like always a super crowd of almost 15 000 that will be chanting for victory and Bute's birthday.

I think that Lucian will not spend the hole evening in the ring and we will see the second stoppage of Joppy's career. Bute as chosen Reyes Gloves for tonight and that to me means that he is going to make a statment in the U.S. by being more offensive than his last 3 or 4 bouts and win by K.O. aroud the 6th round. Just long enough to break a sweat and finish him, so, we should see the end for old Joppy.

I understand that Lucian has work a lot on developping his right hook, wich is always a good thing to prepare his solid left.....

Good boxing everybody !!!


Go Bute Go!!!

[sean]

i hope bute knocks the shit out of joppy

joppy comes across as a prick in his interviews disrespecting bute , simply because he is not american .

[Decebal]

I see no excuses for a bad performance from bute.

Nor do I! Joppy is not a KO-artist like Berrio, either. Bute traind hard for this fight; he says he is in as good a shape physically and mentally as he was for Berrio - his most important fight.

[Decebal]

i wouldn't go that far. he is a champion. plus there is no chance of him getting outpointed by joppy. but joppy is a tough SOB so iwouldn't be surprised to see it go the distance.

It's tempting but quite pointless to speculate what Joppy still has under his belt...we'll see tonight. He might be very shot or he might just be badly faded...in any case, he'll be motivated because a loss tonight pretty much ends his chances of ever making a decent pay-day. He has a young family to support...

[Decebal]

i hope bute knocks the shit out of joppy

joppy comes across as a prick in his interviews disrespecting bute , simply because he is not american .

I don't think Joppy disrepected Bute, although some of his comments have been quite hard to take seriously. The way I see it, he is desperate to pay back Interbox for giving him a big payday, so he sells the fight the best way he can, even at the cost of him appearing ridiculous at times. This is apparent when you listen to Larouche too...he was also desperate to shit-talk, to sell Bute as an opponent in America, for a possible Taylor fight.

If you look at Joppy's body-language, he is very polite and respectful, both with Bute and Larouche. He is treated by these last two, body-language-wise, more like an ally than an opponent.

Joppy needs to pretend he is faded but not a have-been and Interbox need to pretend that it was Bute who made Joppy a has-been, all for the American market.

[lzolnier]

1- The fight will be on tv in Canada for free.

2- It will also be on the internet live for free.


What channel? Certainly not TSN because I checked their schedule. Also, according to this site, its not televised at all: [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Decebal]

What channel? Certainly not TSN because I checked their schedule. Also, according to this site, its not televised at all: [Only registered and activated users can see links]

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[TheGrimReaper]

I think bute will beat him up

[lzolnier]

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I reside in Ontario and I don't think we have this French channel in our lineup! If you know otherwise, let me know what is the channel number or name.

If its not on in my area, I guess I will have to make do with the Litzau/Guarrero fight tonight

[Andrew Wake]

My Take?

Lucian Bute v William Joppy Preview

After a rocky road to winning a world title, Quebec based Romanian Lucian Bute now is now going to kick his feet back and engage in an easy money fight. This Friday evening, at the Bell Centre in Montreal, the unbeaten southpaw takes on America veteran William Joppy in what is an awful first defence of his IBF super-middleweight crown.

But, will the 14,000 or so Canadian fans that will cram into the arena on Friday night care, or even realise, that Bute’s opponent, despite being a three time WBA middleweight champion, is over half a decade past his best and not beaten anyone of note since he picked up a much disputed decision over Howard Eastman in 2001?

It’s doubtful.

Despite hailing from Galati, Romania, Bute has possibly the biggest and most passionate fan base in the whole of Canada and, as they have proved in the past, they will turn out in their droves to see their man perform no matter what level of opposition he’s in against. Bute has been attracting over 10,000 fans to his fights since he was he was fighting third tier super-middleweights such as Lolenga Mock and James Obede Toney.

Bute, 21 – 0 (17), is only 27 years old and, although he now holds an alphabet title and has a large fan base to please, he is the first to admit that he is still developing as a fighter and is not quite ready for the Calzaghe’s and Kessler’s of this world. That said, he is widely regarded as the man who will take over the 168Ibs reigns if and when Messrs. Calzaghe and Kessler move north to light-heavyweight.

Since turning pro, under the guidance of top Canadian trainer Stéphan Larouche, the tough Romanian has been learning his trade steadily, taking on a mix of different fighters and styles. He beat decent opposition, like former world title challengers Andre Thysse and Kabary Salem, but the fight that really proved he could mix it in the upper echelons of the division came last June when he outpointed Cameroonian hard case Sakio Bika.

As we all should know, Bika, who has since gone on to win the third series of ESPN’s boxing contest The Contender, provides a hard night’s work for any fighter. That night, also at the Bell Centre, Bute came through some difficult early rounds before eventually finding his game and dominating the remainder of the contest on way to a unanimous decision victory.

In his last fight, Bute won his IBF title by beating the lightly regarded champion Alejandro Berrio. With 1: 36 remaining in the eleventh round, he backed the heavy handed Colombian into the corner the ring before rocking his head back with two hard left hands and a sickening uppercut that forced the referee, Marlon Wright, to step in and stop the action.

Neither Bika or Berrio were ranked in Ring magazine’s top ten when Bute fought them but these were tough fights, so is the Romanian champion now entitled to an easy first defence?
Well, I’m sure we’d all rather see him in against a more prime opponent, but so called “gimme” defences seem to have become part and parcel of modern boxing. Hell, other great super-middles like Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe have had them so why shouldn’t Bute?

37 year old William Joppy comes in the fight on the back of a five fight winning streak but the reality is that those wins have come against men who can, at best, only be described as club fighters with losing records.

Last time out, Joppy, 39 – 4 – 1 (30), stopped Ohio’s Etienne Whitaker in one round. 35 year old Whitaker went into that bout having lost 16 of his previous 17 fights, 10 of which by way of knockout.

In his fight before Whitaker, Joppy also won in the opening round. He beat Virgil McClendon, a 42 year old who had not has a W put on his record for five years.

These are hardly the type of fighters that would prepare a man for a world title tilt against a fast handed southpaw.

The last meaningful fight Joppy engaged in was back in the December 2004 when he was dropped and outboxed in twelve one-sided rounds by the then still developing Jermain Taylor. As mentioned earlier in this preview, the Maryland based fighter’s last notable win was way back in November 2001 when he claimed the WBA middleweight title for the third time with a majority points win over the “Battersea Bomber” Howard Eastman. Joppy was knocked down in that fight also and many observers felt that the verdict should have gone Eastman’s way.

So what does Joppy bring to Bute’s, and his promoters Interbox’s, table?

Name recognition. Nothing more, nothing less. The simple truth is, no matter what their current fighting state is, a former world champion’s name always looks good on a boxer’s resumé.

Joppy, however, sees things differently. He believes that he still has something to offer top level boxing and intends on pulling off a big upset. “I am not coming to Montreal as a tourist and anybody who thinks I'm a has-been or that I am easy prey better re-evaluate their thinking.” He said recently. “I won my last five fights by knockout and my experience will serve me well against the young champion. Quebec boxing fans will see a great fight but also a nasty surprise!”

Verdict: Given the amount of years that have passed since William Joppy was at his peak, anything less than a knockout win for Bute will be an immense disappointment and would allow the few naysayers that exist to continue to question the Romanian’s long term credentials. I see Bute stopping the old man in eight rounds or less.


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[Rise Above]

Joppy is paying 9 - 1 at my local betting agency.

[RafaelGonzal]

A supposed Fighting machine Bute from that hotbed of boxing Canada? Figting a guy well passed his prime at a weight that is not his best. Joppy is a name only and if the bigger stronger younger Bute goes life and death with him what does it really say about Bute.

[Boyd]

I reside in Ontario and I don't think we have this French channel in our lineup! If you know otherwise, let me know what is the channel number or name.

If its not on in my area, I guess I will have to make do with the Litzau/Guarrero fight tonightas someone informed me it is on channel 115 if you get bell express vu. if you don't than sorry, i can't help. although i think there is a link to a stream if you go back in the forum.:happy :happy

[JVM]

what time u.s. is this bout.. links?