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Fedor Em
03-02-2008, 06:25 PM
I know he has been neck and neck with Vazquez, he looked dominant in the first fight. Lost the 2nd after Vazquez put on outstanding pressure, and barely lost the 3rd after Vazquez came on like a freight train in the 12th, but this was of the most dominant bantamweights I have ever seen.

Should Marquez go back to 118? If he can still make the weight I still think he is the best in the world. :good

Personally I would like to see him move back down, at least for a while.
brooklyn1550
03-02-2008, 06:28 PM
If he can get back to bantamweight, I think he should. He was an ATG there and I still think he'd be the best.
smoochp
03-02-2008, 06:46 PM
No, I don't think so he just was in the ring with a great fighter also. It can be argued that he is 2-1. I would love to see him fight Ponce
Zaryu
03-02-2008, 07:11 PM
i think he should fight another champ like de leon or caballero, and if he wins a title, fight Vazquez again to unify the superbantanweight division ;)
Rickypr18
03-02-2008, 07:17 PM
Nah, JuanMa Lopez will beat De Leon before Marquez gets the chance. I'd rather see him go down in weight where he definitely is the best.
Carlos Primera
03-02-2008, 07:23 PM
no. no shame in losing to a fighter like israel. he should secure some title from de leon or caballero, or beat up some one like juan ma lopez at 122.
Longhhorn71
03-02-2008, 07:26 PM
Nah, JuanMa Lopez will beat De Leon before Marquez gets the chance. I'd rather see him go down in weight where he definitely is the best.

I think Marquez may have already peaked and will slowly decline.

Amazing how 4 pounds makes a big difference, but the same thing happened to Pintor and Zarate when they moved up against Gomez.

Get back down to Bantam and dominate...then retire.
Rickypr18
03-02-2008, 07:31 PM
no. no shame in losing to a fighter like israel. he should secure some title from de leon or caballero, or beat up some one like juan ma lopez at 122.
He might beat JuanMa now but thats because he is pretty much green, while rafa has faced the elite comp and fought very competitively. They will probably never fight BTW, I doubt that Juanma's handlers would want to risk a fight with rafa at such an early stage of Juanma's career.
elTerrible
03-02-2008, 09:59 PM
maybe
smoochp
03-02-2008, 10:41 PM
maybe
People still wear FUBU, just wondering :patsch we need the fashion police someone
psychopath
03-02-2008, 10:55 PM
Moving back down won't help his career anymore . . . he might as well take a long rest then fight both Caballero and De Leon who ever is willing then a fourth fight with Vasquez which will be a unification.
Lance_Uppercut
03-02-2008, 10:57 PM
I think it might be a good move. Arce is there now, Mijares will eventually go to 118 I'm sure. But he should face De Leon first.
4Rounder
03-03-2008, 03:18 AM
No, he needs to KO brutally Penalosa, Bautista, De Leon, Caballero, and decision Gonzales before retirement.:D
jimmie
03-03-2008, 03:20 AM
I choose retire or rest for atleast 6 months before training for a new fight. He took the much greater of the beatings in this trilogy and I wouldnt be shocked if Vasquez shot him the those last rounds.
4Rounder
03-03-2008, 03:21 AM
Hombre..... Vasquez has won 2 out of 3 convincingly...the one he lost he had a broken nose otherwise he would have won that as well.

Hell no man...

Just who the fuck gave him that broken nose genius, Marquez thats who, piston jab and hard straight in the first round and was leading in points through the first fight and the second fight. The third fight was a split decision in which Vazquez won by one single point, a close fight that could have gone either way. :deal
knockout
03-03-2008, 03:27 AM
naw he should stay and fight Del leon or Caballero or maybe Vasquez again.
valdosta
03-03-2008, 03:59 AM
Actually Marquez can't go back to 118. He moved up to 122 because he pretty much had to. The guy was a weight felon for the longest time.
LockDog387
03-03-2008, 06:41 AM
Marquez could easily move up to featherweight and beat guys like Chris John and Jorge Linares, same thing with Isreal Vazquez. Marquez and Vazquez don't need to fight for a fourth time and I don't think Marquez wants too anyway.
BigBone
03-03-2008, 06:57 AM
Simply put: before he moved up experts considered Rafael as THE BEST PUNCHER of boxing today. He lost a lot of power moving up and that's an important weapon of his as he breaks down opponents with it. Another thing is the size disadvantage at SBW. Vazquez wasn't a big SBW but was stronger anyway. Now Caballero and De Leon are HUGE SBWs. Even bigger disadvantage.

I think Marquez should move back down to face Cristian Mijares who should move up. I've made a thread on that and already recieved some negative comments. :)

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valdosta
03-03-2008, 03:19 PM
The guy was huge at 118. he was putting on 15-18 pounds a fight. Moving back down is not an option.
Fedor Em
03-03-2008, 03:53 PM
The guy was huge at 118. he was putting on 15-18 pounds a fight. Moving back down is not an option.

Kinda shows how much moving up in weight is a difference to the fighters in smaller weight classes. Marquez was a very large bantamweight and at superbantam he is much smaller than guys like De Leon and Caballero.

I think he could still make 118 too. He was 121 for this fight and looked great, not weight drained at all.