Nate Campbell is an excellent fighter, very underrated.

[Amsterdam]

So, if Juan Diaz gets in there and dominates him like he did to Julio Diaz, culminating in an accumulation TKO(these were badass:yep ), he had better be cemented in the top 10 P4P.

Campbell is mismanaged, has been stupid in the ring and has been avoided heavily also. At 35, he's still a top LW and I'd take him over several other top LW's that aren't named Juan Diaz.

This is a classic case of an underrated near-elite(when he's on) like Campbell as a likely coming victory that will also likely be very overlooked.

[brooklyn1550]

I hold Campbell in high regard. When he's motivated, he's a damn good fighter with a lot of ability and talent. If Diaz stops him or dominates him, it will say a lot...

[the_what]

No doubt. The fight is the main event of the night as far as Im concerned.

[brooklyn1550]

What do you make of Campbell's chances? Would you be surprised if he won?

[Amsterdam]

I hold Campbell in high regard. When he's motivated, he's a damn good fighter with a lot of ability and talent. If Diaz stops him or dominates him, it will say a lot...

If you only knew how much money he has won me in the last few years...:yep

Nearly always a big underdog against overrated opponents, like Kid Diamond for example. Also, when I put a bet on a KO, he always came through, it's like it never failed with the guy.

This weekend, I'm going to drop a few hundred on Diaz by stoppage and I hope Diaz comes into his own.

[pecks]

I rate Campbell, but he reminds me a bit of Zab Judah in the essence that he doesn't have what it takes mentally.

[Amsterdam]

What do you make of Campbell's chances? Would you be surprised if he won?

Hmm, yes I would. Because I think that Diaz at LW is that good and he also has a style advantage. Campbell won't be able to push him back and will be forced into a slugfest on the backfoot, then he'll try to box and I think Diaz has the legs to catch up to him and corner him.

Diaz with his little power produces punishing 'strong' shots and he throws non-stop, I think he's all wrong for Nate.

I think Campbell is definitely bringing his best though, he may give Diaz a hell of a fight.

[Amsterdam]

I rate Campbell, but he reminds me a bit of Zab Judah in the essence that he doesn't have what it takes mentally.

It's a little different. Inside, Zab falls apart, Campbell just gets extremely cocky and pays the price.:yep

Campbell has heart like Judah never had and Campbell also never had Judah's level of talent.

[PH|LLA]

the thing is that a style like Diaz' thrives on older fighters

[Amsterdam]

the thing is that a style like Diaz' thrives on older fighters

You could say that Campbell is in the same boat as Travis Simms.

[PH|LLA]

You could say that Campbell is in the same boat as Travis Simms.
In that case Campbell will have to make his power felt early in order to have any success. If Diaz goes through those first 2 or 3 rounds without being stunned a few times then Campbell will get fucked.

[psychopath]

Nopes . . . I won't call him an excellent fighter, maybe just an above average fighter . . . why? His very inconsistent ring performance should prove it.

[Robot16]

If you only knew how much money he has won me in the last few years...:yep

Nearly always a big underdog against overrated opponents, like Kid Diamond for example. Also, when I put a bet on a KO, he always came through, it's like it never failed with the guy.

This weekend, I'm going to drop a few hundred on Diaz by stoppage and I hope Diaz comes into his own.

Did you bet on him against Peden?
He was the fave in the second one if i recall correctly.

[jimmy1991]

it depends what nate campball shows up if it this one

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where in for a fight

[cardstars]

What do you make of Campbell's chances? Would you be surprised if he won?

I give him a 20% chance. Not great, but still a decent chance. I wouldn't be completely shocked if he won; but surpised - yes. I want to see an opponent give Diaz some uppercuts one of these days, I have seen him open to them on the inside before he unloads

[IntentionalButt]

I am very sick of constantly having to admit that Diaz, with his unpleasant style, is at the top of the current lightweight heap. I do admit it though. I suppose this is how some people feel about Wladimir's place in the heavyweight division. :conf

Like Nate a great deal, but Juan's youth and workrate clinch this. :twisted:

[natep]

I will not be surprised at all if Campbell drops Diaz.

[PH|LLA]

it depends what nate campball shows up if it this one

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where in for a fight
btw that is the fastest count i've ever seen. I paused it when Campbell goes down and its at 44/borderline 43. at 40 the guy is already at 5

[KO Boxing]

Very good fighter, when he's on... Just too damn inconsistent. One fight he's dominating and stopping a top fighter, the next he's losing or drawing with a nobody. :huh

I personally WOULDN'T be surprised if he beat Diaz, although I'm not tipping him too.

[ozziebattler]

it depends what nate campball shows up if it this one

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where in for a fight


I loved that moment.OZZIE OZZIE OI OI OI.

Campbell had the fight at that stage and through a ridiculous ego got knocked the fuck out.

YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS

[ozziebattler]

btw that is the fastest count i've ever seen. I paused it when Campbell goes down and its at 44/borderline 43. at 40 the guy is already at 5

I think you may be right about the count,but it really didnt matter.

Campbell was fucked up..

Talk about a brain explosion.

[Illmatic]

how the hell did campbell lose the peden rematch? if i remember correctly the first fight was an eliminator and the 2nd was for the ibf title, right?

[djrock247]

No doubt a step up for Diaz, albeit against a past is Campbell. But for Diaz to crack the P4P Top 10 (now) he would have to KO Campbell, at the weigh in. No matter how brilliant the performance, I'm not ready to annoint Diaz a top 10 guy. He's getting there, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[Illmatic]

Correct


did u see the rematch? i dont understand how he couldve lost, unless he was just mentally devastated by the first loss.

[Illmatic]

He fought timid, fought in spurts, then did the same stupid shit again, thinking he could win it easy.

Mental game was never there

campbell really is an anomoly...the comparisons to simms and judah are quite parallel. he BRUTALIZED quiles and kid diamond though, it was brutal

[PH|LLA]

campbell really is an anomoly...the comparisons to simms and judah are quite parallel. he BRUTALIZED quiles and kid diamond though, it was brutal
how is Simms an anomoly?

[Illmatic]

how is Simms an anomoly?

immense talent but it isnt even close to being realized.

[PacDbest]

So, if Juan Diaz gets in there and dominates him like he did to Julio Diaz, culminating in an accumulation TKO(these were badass:yep ), he had better be cemented in the top 10 P4P.

Campbell is mismanaged, has been stupid in the ring and has been avoided heavily also. At 35, he's still a top LW and I'd take him over several other top LW's that aren't named Juan Diaz.

This is a classic case of an underrated near-elite(when he's on) like Campbell as a likely coming victory that will also likely be very overlooked.

Is he a supernatural????:hey

[Illmatic]

Very true. he could be absolutely elite on his best night, but when he wasnt focused, totally lost it.

Judah was a bigger dissapointment though. Had every physical gift there was, lost focus after 4 rounds. I still remember, I dont know which fight, but he is in the corner, and someone outside the ring says something, and he looks over and then right in that instant he gets clocked across the face, and that brings him back into the fight. So ridiculous, I couldnt fathom how you could be distracted that easily

i think that was the first spinks fight. He was trying to pull that mayweather move, where he was telling lampley his picks for the nfl playoffs while he was fighting.

[PH|LLA]

immense talent but it isnt even close to being realized.
ok if you say so but one thing for sure is that against Alcine he simply lost against the better fighter

[Illmatic]

ok if you say so but one thing for sure is that against Alcine he simply lost against the better fighter

i cant say that I know enough about alcine to agree with you, but simms is extremely talented, but he takes rounds off, gets lacksadaisical, and he's inactive. waste of talent.

[Illmatic]

Aww yes, that was the one.

Fucking idiot. At least when Mayweather did it he had control of his opponent

mayweather has 100x the ring intelligence that judah has. Call mayweather what you want, but he has immense ring intelligence.

[Illmatic]

Very true. Ring Intelligence is a highly misunderstood and underrated ability. You can tell when guys have and they dont. The spatial awareness of knowing where you are in the ring and knowing the patterns of your opponent and where they will be in relation to you is something most boxers just dont have. It requires a different mindset than the conventional "FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT" mentality.
Mayweather has it in bunches. Part of the reason he has such great defense.

knowing how to win rounds is not something that comes naturally to most fighters...thats why so many fighters think theyve won every fight even though its clear to everyone theyve lost

[PH|LLA]

guys don't forget that there is a big difference between Spinks and Bruseles. Floyd wouldn't be dumb enough to joke around against Spinks

[Illmatic]

guys don't forget that there is a big difference between Spinks and Bruseles. Floyd wouldn't be dumb enough to joke around against Spinks

well, spinks is a world-class fighter, and mayweather is smart. Judah is stupid enough to do such dumb shit.

[Amsterdam]

Is he a supernatural????:hey

The only thing that concerns you is the fact that Pac isn't and never will be a Supernatural.

[IntentionalButt]

I love watching Juan Diaz fight. I think it's like a bulldozer - fascinating tactics and solid game-plan every time.

I don't know...

:think He did seem to be throwing straighter punches and sitting down on them more against Julio...when I first saw him, I saw a sloppy, noisy, featherfisted mess with no upside but chin and workrate (not exactly enough to give me chills) and I've been waiting and hoping for someone to hand him an L ever since. That chin and workrate, however, have carried him far enough to seem unbeatable at lightweight. Loathe to admit it, but I must. I'll probably never enjoy watching him, but I can begrudgingly acknowledge his superiority at 135.

[PolishPummler]

Keep them hands up Nate Mayorga!

[PacDbest]

The only thing that concerns you is the fact that Pac isn't and never will be a Supernatural.

Is he a God????:yep

[Amsterdam]

Is he a God????:yep

No, Mijares is God and Pac's not even as good as Joe Calzaghe, who's currently a lesser fighter than Mijares at his advancing age.:good

[IntentionalButt]

Nate Campbell is an excellent fighter; very good boxer - but inconsistent and faded.

Juan Diaz is a guy lucky enough to have some distinct physical advantages over much of a division whose few elites are on the decline.

This win will not make him an excellent fighter or a good boxer...it will make him still what he has been all along - a determined and lucky (and, yeah, hard-working) guy.

[Tuavale]

Nate is very tough, and skilled. Diaz may be special. But just heard DK resigned as the Baby Bull's promoter and King DOES have a piece of the Galaxy Warrior. Is controversy brewing?:smoke :smoke

[psychopath]

Nate Campbell is an excellent fighter; very good boxer - but inconsistent and faded.


That's the best description for the Galaxy warrior at this point. :good