View Full Version : Dawson - Zambidis - anyone go?
gold_gloves
03-05-2008, 04:27 AM
i did :D
Only to be pissed off with the final decision, i thought it was a bit of a bullshit decision - i had Dawson winning and comfortably.
Dawson was outlanding with jabs, knees and kicks....Zambidis spent most of the fight swinging wildly and missing and chasing Dawson. When Zambidis did eventually land there was something coming straight back....He never hurt or rocked Dawson and Zambidis from where i was went down from a kick which took his legs out and wasnt called......
Zambidis came in flurries but Dawson was in control i thought all fight, never really looked trouble and was landing his fair share.
bullshit decision, Dawson got skrewed out of a world title, you could tell he couldnt believe it on his face.....maybe it was just where i was sitting or what i was looking for but i thought it was a load of crap. anyone agree?
sort of glad he did win thought or there would of been a fucking riot.
maco_187
03-05-2008, 04:42 AM
mate kickboxing is shit lol, in all seriousness does anyone have a copy of the fight i thought it would be a great fight? would love to see a copy? apparently it aint going to show on fox because tarak solak produced it for turkish tv only
gold_gloves
03-05-2008, 05:05 AM
mate kickboxing is shit lol, in all seriousness does anyone have a copy of the fight i thought it would be a great fight? would love to see a copy? apparently it aint going to show on fox because tarak solak produced it for turkish tv only
i agree its shit man, nothing on boxing....i went with a mate who wanted to go....seeing Quarteron was worth it though, hi fived the guy when he ran past us :smoke , fucking big unit
joekirkbycobra
03-05-2008, 05:09 AM
zambidis is a lil power house:lol: i dont really follow it so i aint seen dawson
Robot16
03-05-2008, 08:53 AM
How was the rest of the card mate?
i thought dawson was robbed aswell i was kicked off the mike zambidis forum for saying so i heard some greeks say they didnt think zambidis won i had the fight 4 rounds to 1 for dawson he was robbed of his world title
sparta
03-06-2008, 01:40 AM
yep ,close fight,mike had too much power and accuracy for dawson,hard clean scoring shots to head and body are what won the fight for mike .this fight was scored under a1 rules ,NOT MUITHAI RULES.:yep
yep ,close fight,mike had too much power and accuracy for dawson,hard clean scoring shots to head and body are what won the fight for mike .this fight was scored under a1 rules ,NOT MUITHAI RULES.:yep
you would have to agree under muay thai dawson would pick zambidis apart. i still think dawson won
i think a boxing match between these two would be interesting
CarltonBlues
03-06-2008, 03:19 AM
Zambo landed the better shots, like someone mentioned it wasn't MuiThai.
Dekkers
03-06-2008, 06:05 AM
Zambo landed the better shots, like someone mentioned it wasn't MuiThai.
Just as well it wasn't Muay Thai, it tends to be slower paced and more technical than most kickboxing matches. It's a bit like jiu-jitsu/wrestling, doesn't have a huge 'casual' fan base, definitely not as easy on the eyes as boxing is for the average onlooker.
sparta
03-06-2008, 08:37 AM
you would have to agree under muay thai dawson would pick zambidis apart. i still think dawson won
i think a boxing match between these two would be interesting
he probly would beat zambidis in muythai no doubt,cause mike aint a muithai fighter ,just like mike beats him in boxing and kickboxing,but dawson is a kicker and boxer and still lost ,zambo struggles with knees and elbows thai style cause he is so damn short ,hes only 5.3 so every one who fights him tries to use knees to win, his head is very low to the ground .that just shows how good mike realy is .id love to see mike box vs dawson ,but im so sure that mike would knock him out, no knees and kicks to save him from mikes hands. mike is world class boxer.:D
Kegsy
03-06-2008, 09:40 AM
he probly would beat zambidis in muythai no doubt,cause mike aint a muithai fighter ,just like mike beats him in boxing and kickboxing,but dawson is a kicker and boxer and still lost ,zambo struggles with knees and elbows thai style cause he is so damn short ,hes only 5.3 so every one who fights him tries to use knees to win, his head is very low to the ground .that just shows how good mike realy is .id love to see mike box vs dawson ,but im so sure that mike would knock him out, no knees and kicks to save him from mikes hands. mike is world class boxer.:D
Time for Mike Zambidis to step in the boxing ring then.
It will be alot harder for him then u think Sparta mate.
maco_187
03-06-2008, 05:53 PM
Time for Mike Zambidis to step in the boxing ring then.
It will be alot harder for him then u think Sparta mate.
its way harder then people think, its easy for mike to land punches on someone like gurkan ozkan who has no defence for boxing, or no reflexes like a boxer because during a fight but against someone with more class they will get murdered, i.e. i couldnt picture mike zambidis coming close to like a daniel dawson type fighter but maybe he can get to ryan waters for that fact..... i even think junior would be too much for him
Canvas
03-06-2008, 06:25 PM
Tarik Solak is the reason why people don't like kickboxing. this guy runs the sport into the ground.
Kegsy
03-06-2008, 07:26 PM
its way harder then people think, its easy for mike to land punches on someone like gurkan ozkan who has no defence for boxing, or no reflexes like a boxer because during a fight but against someone with more class they will get murdered, i.e. i couldnt picture mike zambidis coming close to like a daniel dawson type fighter but maybe he can get to ryan waters for that fact..... i even think junior would be too much for him
Exactly. I think Zambo would have his work cut out just tryin to beat an Aussie or regional champ let alone anyone better.
A match with Waters, would no way be an easy night for Zambidis.
Kegsy
03-06-2008, 07:27 PM
Tarik Solak is the reason why people don't like kickboxing. this guy runs the sport into the ground.Not a fan of Solak, but he is putting on plenty of cards.
I wouldnt complain too much.
sparta
03-06-2008, 09:47 PM
JUST a little bit of info on mike here ,mike was a boxer before he started kickboxing ,he was the national greek champion when he was like 16 fighting guys much bigger in their 20s and 30s ,he was selected to fight at the athens olympic games provided he ditched his kickboxing sponsorships .ive trained with australian champions and trained with mike ,he is on a different level . remember bassim chami fenechs up and comer,god bless his soul, zambo fought in melbourne went to fenechs gym the next day sparred chami with no headgear and 16 ounce ,basim had headgear ,mike anialated him,they stopped the sparr ,bassim was gettin hurt ,billy jumps in and goes thats enough. freddie roach has contacted mike and asked him to make the transition.
mike loves kickboxing to much though.man if u guys watch him train ,hes a monster . remember why mike tyson was so successful against all his bigger opponents,power and speed to weight ratio was phenomonal,combine that with skill, heart and chin and there you go a monster is made.:yep
Kegsy
03-06-2008, 10:00 PM
JUST a little bit of info on mike here ,mike was a boxer before he started kickboxing ,he was the national greek champion when he was like 16 fighting guys much bigger in their 20s and 30s ,he was selected to fight at the athens olympic games provided he ditched his kickboxing sponsorships .ive trained with australian champions and trained with mike ,he is on a different level . remember bassim chami fenechs up and comer,god bless his soul, zambo fought in melbourne went to fenechs gym the next day sparred chami with no headgear and 16 ounce ,basim had headgear ,mike anialated him,they stopped the sparr ,bassim was gettin hurt ,billy jumps in and goes thats enough. freddie roach has contacted mike and asked him to make the transition.
mike loves kickboxing to much though.man if u guys watch him train ,hes a monster . remember why mike tyson was so successful against all his bigger opponents,power and speed to weight ratio was phenomonal,combine that with skill, heart and chin and there you go a monster is made.:yep
Bless his soul, but i never rated Chami that highly.
It would be intresting to see how Zambo went against a Waters type.
King Davidson would destoy Zambo thats 4 sure.
maco_187
03-06-2008, 10:26 PM
Bless his soul, but i never rated Chami that highly.
It would be intresting to see how Zambo went against a Waters type.
King Davidson would destoy Zambo thats 4 sure.
now thats a fight id like to see king davidson in, would be a tough guy to crack for either person, but king has plenty of experience....
Kegsy
03-06-2008, 10:35 PM
now thats a fight id like to see king davidson in, would be a tough guy to crack for either person, but king has plenty of experience....
Davidson is awesome Maco.
Ask Huricn or any of the guys that have seen him spar & train.
1 of the best talents in the country & will be heavily avoided.
maco_187
03-06-2008, 11:32 PM
Davidson is awesome Maco.
Ask Huricn or any of the guys that have seen him spar & train.
1 of the best talents in the country & will be heavily avoided.
thats why he should prob get out of this country and try make it in the u.s., but i get a feeling cos he keeps his hands low he will be caught at some stage or another during his career...
kegsy are you a boxer? or do u just know certain people?
JUST a little bit of info on mike here ,mike was a boxer before he started kickboxing ,he was the national greek champion when he was like 16 fighting guys much bigger in their 20s and 30s ,he was selected to fight at the athens olympic games provided he ditched his kickboxing sponsorships .ive trained with australian champions and trained with mike ,he is on a different level . remember bassim chami fenechs up and comer,god bless his soul, zambo fought in melbourne went to fenechs gym the next day sparred chami with no headgear and 16 ounce ,basim had headgear ,mike anialated him,they stopped the sparr ,bassim was gettin hurt ,billy jumps in and goes thats enough. freddie roach has contacted mike and asked him to make the transition.
mike loves kickboxing to much though.man if u guys watch him train ,hes a monster . remember why mike tyson was so successful against all his bigger opponents,power and speed to weight ratio was phenomonal,combine that with skill, heart and chin and there you go a monster is made.:yep
I have looked and looked and have never found any evidence of any Zambidis boxing bout. Furthermore have never found any evidence of any Olympic team consideration let alone selection. Can you provide these elusive stats? You would think that somewhere there would be some form of results recorded but absolutely nothing.
maco_187
03-07-2008, 02:11 AM
I have looked and looked and have never found any evidence of any Zambidis boxing bout. Furthermore have never found any evidence of any Olympic team consideration let alone selection. Can you provide these elusive stats? You would think that somewhere there would be some form of results recorded but absolutely nothing.
its in greece..... therefore lies your answer...
sparta
03-07-2008, 05:55 AM
well said maco ,all in greece my friend . king davidson whos that bloke again ,rings a bell whats his record.:D
sparta
03-07-2008, 06:45 AM
Bless his soul, but i never rated Chami that highly.
It would be intresting to see how Zambo went against a Waters type.
King Davidson would destoy Zambo thats 4 sure.
whats king davids weight ? and i highly doubt any one near mikes weight would destroy zambo given mike gives up kickboxing and boxes straight up, given time he would clean up. look how far briggs and solimon have gone in boxing from a kickboxing backround, zambos got more talent than both of them , and he started as a champion boxer also.:yep
Kegsy
03-07-2008, 09:37 AM
thats why he should prob get out of this country and try make it in the u.s., but i get a feeling cos he keeps his hands low he will be caught at some stage or another during his career...
kegsy are you a boxer? or do u just know certain people?
I no tonnes of people in the no. Built up knowledge & mates over many years my friend.
Kegsy
03-07-2008, 09:38 AM
whats king davids weight ? and i highly doubt any one near mikes weight would destroy zambo given mike gives up kickboxing and boxes straight up, given time he would clean up. look how far briggs and solimon have gone in boxing from a kickboxing backround, zambos got more talent than both of them , and he started as a champion boxer also.:yep
King Davidson fights today at 69kg, junior middleweight.
Undefeated prospect with an awesome amateur record....probably the most avoided in the country.
zambidis would get beaten up by good pro boxers they would use his hight and give him beatings
how was zambidis a professional fighter selected to go into the olympic games?
maco_187
03-20-2008, 10:59 PM
zambidis would get beaten up by good pro boxers they would use his hight and give him beatings
how was zambidis a professional fighter selected to go into the olympic games?
once again its corruption lol as i said before it was in greece.... just like the euro cup you couldnt seriously believe they won that fair and square could you???? the olympics were well behind schedule and they needed a boost(i have a few theories)
zambidis wouldnt beat alot of boxers outside australia, he struggled with ozkan who had a war with chong nee, so there wouldnt be much room for improvement.... especially at zambos age...but i still reckon zambo is a crazy fighter, he possesses good power
ozziebattler
03-20-2008, 11:37 PM
What kind of cash do fighters like Zambo get per bout?
Always interested on the kind of coin in kickboxing.
sparta
03-22-2008, 01:22 AM
once again its corruption lol as i said before it was in greece.... just like the euro cup you couldnt seriously believe they won that fair and square could you???? the olympics were well behind schedule and they needed a boost(i have a few theories)
zambidis wouldnt beat alot of boxers outside australia, he struggled with ozkan who had a war with chong nee, so there wouldnt be much room for improvement.... especially at zambos age...but i still reckon zambo is a crazy fighter, he possesses good power
he struggled with ozkan ? ozkan came in 10kg heavier,they fought at a catchweight ,ozkan has fought and fought well at heavy weight ,beating stan the man and adam watt, zambo won every round bar maybe one or two rounds to ozkan, zambo dropped him in the tenth,and almost ended his life in the twelfth. btw zambo is realy a welter,he blows up to junior middle cause thats what the k1 is held at.
and yes the greek boxing authority offered him a spot on the olympic boxing team to fight at the games providing he ditched his kickboxing sponsorships,he refused because thats his bread and butter.:yep
sparta
03-22-2008, 01:28 AM
AND YEP THE EURO CUP WHICH WAS HELD IN PORTUGAL WAS SOMEHOW FIXED SO GREECE COULD WIN,UM WOULDNT IT MAKE SENSE FOR THE HOST TEAM TO WIN IN THE FINAL VIA MATCH FIXING?:patsch
MATCH FIXING MY ASS.
Kegsy
03-22-2008, 01:48 AM
AND YEP THE EURO CUP WHICH WAS HELD IN PORTUGAL WAS SOMEHOW FIXED SO GREECE COULD WIN,UM WOULDNT IT MAKE SENSE FOR THE HOST TEAM TO WIN IN THE FINAL VIA MATCH FIXING?:patsch
MATCH FIXING MY ASS.:lol:
Nah it wasnt fixed, i was glad the Porko's lost.
I have far too many portuguese friends.:yep
he struggled with ozkan ? ozkan came in 10kg heavier,they fought at a catchweight ,ozkan has fought and fought well at heavy weight ,beating stan the man and adam watt, zambo won every round bar maybe one or two rounds to ozkan, zambo dropped him in the tenth,and almost ended his life in the twelfth. btw zambo is realy a welter,he blows up to junior middle cause thats what the k1 is held at.
and yes the greek boxing authority offered him a spot on the olympic boxing team to fight at the games providing he ditched his kickboxing sponsorships,he refused because thats his bread and butter.:yep
my question is how does a pro fighter get a spot in the olympic team it is against the rules of amatuer boxing isnt it?
sparta
03-24-2008, 10:49 PM
my question is how does a pro fighter get a spot in the olympic team it is against the rules of amatuer boxing isnt it?
he was a pro kickboxer ,not a pro boxer at the time ,thats why ,different sport . :D
boxon123
03-27-2008, 01:03 AM
I didnt know you could box at the games when you are 16.I seem to remember there being an age limit.
I didnt know you could box at the games when you are 16.I seem to remember there being an age limit.
yep 17
sparta
03-27-2008, 01:49 AM
yep 17
2004 games he was 23,thats the games he was offered a spot in.
2004 games he was 23,thats the games he was offered a spot in.
Source? How do you know this?
What about qualifying bouts for the team? There is absolutely no record of any boxing fight that I have ever found. And forget the "Its in Greek" excuse - I have Greek relatives in the fight game and they have not heard anything about 40 fights let alone 40 wins.
sparta
03-28-2008, 01:30 AM
Source? How do you know this?
What about qualifying bouts for the team? There is absolutely no record of any boxing fight that I have ever found. And forget the "Its in Greek" excuse - I have Greek relatives in the fight game and they have not heard anything about 40 fights let alone 40 wins.
dont know any thing bout 40 fights for 40 wins,dnt know who mentioned that ,but he was amature boxing champion of greece.because greece doesnt have pro boxing he turned to kickboxing and made a name for himself there,because of his star status and notoriety the greek boxing authority offered him a spot at the athens games to fight for greece providing he give up his kickboxing sponsorships,mike considered this and refused.
how do i know this ,i was in athens at the time of the games,my first cousin services his honda s2000 convertible,we had dinner together and this was straight from his mouth. i also had dinner with him recently at restaurant in melb after he beat daniel dawson at the a1 no respect promo at vodafone.:deal
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