View Full Version : Chad Dawson v. Adrian Diaconu - 10th November, Montreal, according to Boxrec
Decebal
07-11-2007, 04:44 AM
:happy What a great fight this will be! The wobbly chin of the talented Dawson meeting the aggressive punch of Diaconu, ...at least some of the time! :lol: .
What a great showcase for these two fighters' skills! What a great fight these two opposites will make! Bring it on! If Dawson wins this one, he will have proved a lot, especially his chin, by winning the Diaconu challenge!:rasta
JETSKI
07-11-2007, 07:55 AM
:happy What a great fight this will be! The wobbly chin of the talented Dawson meeting the aggressive punch of Diaconu, ...at least some of the time! :lol: .
What a great showcase for these two fighters' skills! What a great fight these two opposites will make! Bring it on! If Dawson wins this one, he will have proved a lot, especially his chin, by winning the Diaconu challenge!:rasta
I was thinking just yesterday about when we might hear some news on this great match up.
Diaconu by KO!!!:bbb
*BOX_FAN*
07-11-2007, 07:58 AM
Dawson by UD :bbb
pioterbezkitu
07-11-2007, 08:05 AM
I was thinking just yesterday about when we might hear some news on this great match up.
Diaconu by KO!!!:bbb
I wouldn't be so sure Jets. If Shark finds the range it's gonna be lights out for Bad Chad, but I think it's going to be a onesided fight. Stick and move for Chad to a loopsided victory.
JETSKI
07-11-2007, 08:12 AM
I wouldn't be so sure Jets. If Shark finds the range it's gonna be lights out for Bad Chad, but I think it's going to be a onesided fight. Stick and move for Chad to a loopsided victory.
Chad will have won 90% of the rounds going into the 10th & then BINGO! The big one finally lands & Chad will wonder what happened. If that doesn't happen (& you you it might) then Dawson by UD.
King Dan
07-11-2007, 08:17 AM
You guys are pretty ridiculous with this "chinny" Chad bullshit.
The guy gets blasted by a right hand from Adamek, gets up and continues the beating, and everyone says he is chinny.
The punch that knocked him off balance against Harding was the force of him going forward and Eric just throwing a nice shot to Chad's chin.
It happens.
Anyways, I don't believe I've seen Diaconu, but GO CHAD.
Wish he ends up fighting Tarver instead.
justaboxingfan
07-11-2007, 08:19 AM
:happy What a great fight this will be! The wobbly chin of the talented Dawson meeting the aggressive punch of Diaconu, ...at least some of the time! :lol: .
What a great showcase for these two fighters' skills! What a great fight these two opposites will make! Bring it on! If Dawson wins this one, he will have proved a lot, especially his chin, by winning the Diaconu challenge!:rasta
What, Chad has a decent chin, he's been down twice in his woile career and both were flash knockdowns. Chad is going to outbox Diaconu and thats how I see it happening. On a more positive note, I'm glad this fight is in Canada, as it'll be my first live championship match, can't wait. Do you know by any chance when tickets are going to be available?
King Dan
07-11-2007, 08:20 AM
Don't get too excited.
Nothing is set in stone.
I could see this fight NOT happening as it's the same day as proposed Mayweather - Hatton and Gatti - J.C.C. Jr fights.
justaboxingfan
07-11-2007, 08:32 AM
Don't get too excited.
Nothing is set in stone.
I could see this fight NOT happening as it's the same day as proposed Mayweather - Hatton and Gatti - J.C.C. Jr fights.
Oh right, I forgot to read 'according to boxrec' lol:nut
MrMagic
07-11-2007, 09:08 AM
I've seen both fighters fight, at their best and at their worst.
I have to say, Chad takes this to the distance by just outpointing Diaconu, sure Adrian has some power and he walks right at ya, but he won't be able to cut the ring against the much more technical Dawson.
Dawson UD.
unitas
07-11-2007, 09:29 AM
dawson by late tko.
Dekkers
07-11-2007, 09:49 AM
You guys are pretty ridiculous with this "chinny" Chad bullshit.
The guy gets blasted by a right hand from Adamek, gets up and continues the beating, and everyone says he is chinny.
The punch that knocked him off balance against Harding was the force of him going forward and Eric just throwing a nice shot to Chad's chin.
It happens.
Anyways, I don't believe I've seen Diaconu, but GO CHAD.
Wish he ends up fighting Tarver instead.
Diaconou is light heavyweights version of a '96 (not '86) Tyson, bit of a back handed compliment but, he's dangerous make no mistake. Dawson doesn't have to be chinny to get KO'ed by this guy.
Brickhaus
07-11-2007, 10:13 AM
Dianconu will have problems touching Dawson. Dawson seems to really be helped defensively by training under Mayweather Sr. If the much quicker and more adept Adamek wasn't able to land much on him, I don't see how Dianconu will be able to land anything flush enough to turn out the lights, and his ONLY chance at winning is by KO. Dawson by wide UD.
Maxime
07-11-2007, 10:50 AM
This fight was added on boxrec.com by some dude from Hungeria. It was not added by the Canadian editor who usualy adds the canadian fights. And when he does add a fight it's because that fight is official and signed.
So I wouldnt put to much into that news. Not yet.
Brickhaus
07-11-2007, 11:18 AM
This fight was added on boxrec.com by some dude from Hungeria. It was not added by the Canadian editor who usualy adds the canadian fights. And when he does add a fight it's because that fight is official and signed.
So I wouldnt put to much into that news. Not yet.
Dumb question, but how can you tell who added it?
Maxime
07-11-2007, 11:54 AM
Dumb question, but how can you tell who added it?
Only an editor can know who added the fight. I'm not an editor but Philbud from lazonedeboxe.com is. He told us that he didnt add the fight and that somebody from Hungeria did.
Decebal
07-11-2007, 01:02 PM
Hungeria? WTF? Do you mean Hungary? And who is Dianconu? :lol:
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Maxime
07-11-2007, 01:21 PM
Hungeria? WTF? Do you mean Hungary? And who is Dianconu? :lol:
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Yeah... hungary..... oups lol :rofl
Decebal
07-11-2007, 01:31 PM
Yeah... hungary..... oups lol :rofl
Sorry, it wasn't fair to shoot the messanger!:oops:
diamondDave
07-11-2007, 01:34 PM
This is a great match up and it will be a difficult fight for both men. I am leaning toward Dawson based on overall boxing skills, but it could go either way. I think Diaconu hits harder and probably takes a better punch.
JETSKI
07-11-2007, 01:39 PM
This is a great match up and it will be a difficult fight for both men. I am leaning toward Dawson based on overall boxing skills, but it could go either way. I think Diaconu hits harder and probably takes a better punch.
Dawson won't believe his eyes when he looks across the ring & see's Adrian foaming at the mouth!
He's gonna be REAL HUNGRY that night.:!:
kg0208
07-11-2007, 01:41 PM
Dawson won't believe his eyes when he looks across the ring & see's Adrian foaming at the mouth!
He's gonna be REAL HUNGRY that night.:!:
I personally don't think Dawson will give a damn.
Decebal
07-11-2007, 01:46 PM
I personally don't think Dawson will give a damn.
Won't give a damn because The Bull will be easily turned and killed or won't give a damn because it won't matter much how Dawson approaches this fight?
JETSKI
07-11-2007, 01:48 PM
Won't give a damn because The Bull will be easily turned and killed or won't give a damn because it won't matter much how Dawson approaches this fight?
The Bull? You mean The Shark, don't you? Thats Diaconu's nickname.
kg0208
07-11-2007, 01:49 PM
Won't give a damn because The Bull will be easily turned and killed or won't give a damn because it won't matter much how Dawson approaches this fight?
He isn't gonna give a damn that some guy is very hungry and foaming at the mouth. Dawson as a champion should expect this from every guy he is fighting. And Dawson doesn't strike me as the "Oh my god this is gonna be rough" kinda guy.
Decebal
07-11-2007, 01:55 PM
Chad Dawson HAS to be the favourite! That doesn't mean that he won't have to earn that win, discovering new things about himself in the process. And if he's not a fast enough learner on the night, it's Lights Out for Chad! :deal
crashzzz
07-11-2007, 02:28 PM
Though Dawson is clearly the better boxer, however, in the end, Diaconu's power will prove the difference...
Diaconu by TKO
Decebal
07-11-2007, 02:31 PM
Diaconu can hardly be described as a boxer! He is just a bloke who aims to rip your head off as efficiently and quickly as possible! PBF would not approve!
brooklyn1550
07-11-2007, 02:34 PM
Dawson UD
Decebal
07-11-2007, 02:44 PM
The reason why this is such a great match-up is because Dawson's reputation will be MUCH enhanced if he wins, not to mention how exciting the fight will have to be for Dawson to win. People who think Dawson will do a PBF on Diaconu have clearly never seen Diaconu...he fights like a bull! Running away from him/stepping in and out or anything like that will just not work. Dawson will provide a master class in beating a fighter like Diaconu. We will all be licking our lips!
:happy Bring it on!:happy
andyZOR
07-11-2007, 04:23 PM
Im probley gonna get hate for this, but I don care. Im not a Dawson hater.
Diaconu Ko 9.
Decebal
07-11-2007, 05:04 PM
Dawson's going to get hate if he dodges Diaconu!:yep
markbrooklyn
07-11-2007, 05:15 PM
Dawson beats this guy easily.. You all are hyping this Diaconu dude up too much.. I've seen him fight and he's gonna get an ass whippin.
markbrooklyn
07-11-2007, 05:16 PM
The reason why this is such a great match-up is because Dawson's reputation will be MUCH enhanced if he wins, not to mention how exciting the fight will have to be for Dawson to win. People who think Dawson will do a PBF on Diaconu have clearly never seen Diaconu...he fights like a bull! Running away from him/stepping in and out or anything like that will just not work. Dawson will provide a master class in beating a fighter like Diaconu. We will all be licking our lips!
:happy Bring it on!:happy
MUCH enhanced by beating a guy that is pretty much unknown in the US? Maybe to hard hard core boxing fans yeah but nobody really knows Diaconu.. Dawson will beat this guy easily.
Rock0052
07-11-2007, 06:04 PM
What, Chad has a decent chin, he's been down twice in his woile career and both were flash knockdowns.
They also both happened against the best 2 fighters on his resume and just over the past 14 months. Chad SHOULD win this fight and he's made me a believer in his skills- but make no mistake, his chin is his weakness.
achillesthegreat
07-11-2007, 06:11 PM
This is the sort of unnecessary risk Adamek took v Dawson and he got dominated. Hopefully this will garner Dawson some real respect.
I want to see Dawson keep improving with Senior. I think there is more in him.
Soon someone needs to step up and face Dawson.
JETSKI
07-11-2007, 08:20 PM
They also both happened against the best 2 fighters on his resume and just over the past 14 months. Chad SHOULD win this fight and he's made me a believer in his skills- but make no mistake, his chin is his weakness.
Thus, the main reason for his excellent defense.
Decebal
07-12-2007, 04:22 AM
MUCH enhanced by beating a guy that is pretty much unknown in the US? Maybe to hard hard core boxing fans yeah but nobody really knows Diaconu.. Dawson will beat this guy easily.
Yeah, you're right! I meant much enhanced to hard core boxing fans (some) of whom are unconvinced how well Dawson could handle Diaconu's style! True, Diaconu is no American show pony.
Decebal
07-12-2007, 04:24 AM
This is the sort of unnecessary risk Adamek took v Dawson and he got dominated. Hopefully this will garner Dawson some real respect.
Dead on!:good Bring on the fight! We might ALL become Dawson fans by the end of the night!
Decebal
07-12-2007, 05:48 AM
Confirmation from the Canadians??
Diaconu wins poll, Alcine wins title!
By Dave Baggs ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), FightNews Canada
Thanks to all those who participated in our FightNews Canada poll, "Who will be Canada's next world champion". The final tallies reflect that Canadian boxing fans see Adrian Diaconu (30%) as the next world champion by the slimmest of margins over Lucian Bute (25%) while Joachim Alcine (23%) ran a close third. However, with Alcine's title victory Saturday night in Bridgeport, Connecticut, Ti-Joa become Canada's next WORLD champion. Diaconu looks to get his chance to become the country's 3rd world champ, November 10th when he challenges for the WBC Light Heavyweight title in Montreal. Here is the final poll results
Adrian DIACONU 30%
Lucian BUTE 25%
Joachim ALCINE 23%
Troy ROSS 6%
Jean PASCAL 6%
Herman NGOUDJO 2%
Chad BRISSON 2%
Arturo GATTI 2%
Sebastien DEMERS 1%
Sebastien GAUTHIER 1%
JF BERGERON 1%
Bermane STIVERNE 1% Wednesday July 11, 2007
WhataRock
07-12-2007, 05:55 AM
I like Diaconu, he has a easy to watch style and is all round solid.
There are some awesome matchups for Adrian at lt heavy that would be great fights.
But I feel Dawson is to good. His style is a hard one to tackle and I think its going to take someone real good to knock him off.
Decebal
07-12-2007, 04:00 PM
He is macho and when it comes down to it boxing fans are blood thirsty. We want to see warriors and gladiators in a FIGHT. He knows how to bring this out of us and get us up for a fight. I'm a sucker for it and I think most boxing fans are.
:good
MrFoFody
07-12-2007, 05:24 PM
Why no love for Dawson? Didn't Dawson just handily batter and defeat the highly regarded Adamek who was avoided like the plague? I've never seen Diaconu box but this sounds like the pre fight talk leading up to the Adamek fight. Adamek was a proven tough customer meanwhile Diaconu has proven himself against whom? I'll take Dawson by late TKO.
andyZOR
07-12-2007, 05:37 PM
Why no love for Dawson? Didn't Dawson just handily batter and defeat the highly regarded Adamek who was avoided like the plague? I've never seen Diaconu box but this sounds like the pre fight talk leading up to the Adamek fight. Adamek was a proven tough customer meanwhile Diaconu has proven himself against whom? I'll take Dawson by late TKO.
So you never seen Diaconu box yet you voted Dawson by TKO? Your a moron.
Decebal
07-12-2007, 06:05 PM
I will be amongst the first to ejaculate my love for Dawson once he steps up and bites the Diaconu bullet. And if he beats Diaconu (not as done and dusted as some here think:yep ) Dawson will become one of my favourites!
Go on Dawson! :good
crashzzz
07-12-2007, 06:13 PM
Why no love for Dawson? Didn't Dawson just handily batter and defeat the highly regarded Adamek who was avoided like the plague? I've never seen Diaconu box but this sounds like the pre fight talk leading up to the Adamek fight. Adamek was a proven tough customer meanwhile Diaconu has proven himself against whom? I'll take Dawson by late TKO.
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MrFoFody
07-12-2007, 06:24 PM
So you never seen Diaconu box yet you voted Dawson by TKO? Your a moron.
Why don't you show some class or are you some imature keyboard warrior? In case you didn't know, Diaconu's fights havn't been really televised in the US. His competition hasn't been of the greatest caliber as his biggest fight to date was against Rico Hoye :tired . I wouldn't want to evaluate him based on what I've seen on you tube (poor picture quality and not much to look at) hence my previous statement of not having seen him. But from what I have seen he tends to not really set up his punches and lunges in. Not very good tactics to use against someone as skilled as Dawson.
Decebal
07-12-2007, 06:25 PM
Dawson would outbox him.
Sounds good...but Diaconu doesn't "box"; he rips your head off. If I were Dawson I would be worried and wouldn't agree to get into the ring with Diaconu unless I thought I was all that!...
We all know Dawson can box; but can he fight?
PH|LLA
07-12-2007, 06:30 PM
Diaconu is not really an elite fighter.
My money is on Dawson.
that being said, I hope Diaconu rips him a new asshole
Decebal
07-12-2007, 06:33 PM
:lol: This fight will NOT go to the scorecards! Chances are Diaconu is going to get KTFO, because he's not going to just sit there and box Dawson all night! He will go for the KO not matter what! What a stunning prospect, this fight!
Fab2333
07-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Dawson by UD
ryanty22
07-12-2007, 06:36 PM
this is a hard fight to call, diaconu hasnt really been tested but from what ive seen of him he can box to set up his punches. dawson is a good boxer but can he handle himself in a slugfest? i dont know who would win but i wanna see it
Decebal
07-12-2007, 06:45 PM
your chance to vote
andyZOR
07-12-2007, 06:57 PM
In case you didn't know, Diaconu's fights havn't been really televised in the US.
He was on FNF not to long ago v Hoye. 2 Months im guessing. I can give you the link if intrested, think I still might have it.
His competition hasn't been of the greatest caliber as his biggest fight to date was against Rico Hoye :tired . I wouldn't want to evaluate him based on what I've seen on you tube (poor picture quality and not much to look at) hence my previous statement of not having seen him. But from what I have seen he tends to not really set up his punches and lunges in. Not very good tactics to use against someone as skilled as Dawson.
Yes....but the kid has a lot of Power, somthing that Dawson don't have a lot of. Diaconu has a great, not good, great chance of knocking him out.
Decebal
07-12-2007, 07:00 PM
Link to Diaconu v. Hoye:
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Decebal
07-12-2007, 07:39 PM
Just rewatched Diaconu v. Hoye...man, would Diaconu be fun to watch in a bar-fight!:lol:
JETSKI
07-12-2007, 10:07 PM
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Thanks for posting that...it was great seeing it again.
DAMN!:!:
Lampley
07-12-2007, 10:24 PM
He was on FNF not to long ago v Hoye. 2 Months im guessing. I can give you the link if intrested, think I still might have it.
Yes....but the kid has a lot of Power, somthing that Dawson don't have a lot of. Diaconu has a great, not good, great chance of knocking him out.
You're handicapping this as though it would be power vs. power. AD's challenge would be too offset the much taller, longer man's jab, plus the fact that Dawson would give him movement, something else we don't know if AD can handle at that level. Additionally, Dioconu's defense after punching is open, and Dawson counters with combos.
I hope Chad takes this bout, because -- though there's obvious danger -- I think he can shine.
flem1
07-12-2007, 11:50 PM
Dawson hits hard too, throws many combos per round... I predict a UD win or late round TKO for Chad... I don't think Diaconu won't stand a chance against Chad's slick boxing skills and excellent body punches...
Decebal
07-13-2007, 04:35 AM
I hope Chad takes this bout, because -- though there's obvious danger -- I think he can shine.
Precisely my point!:good
Thanks for posting that...it was great seeing it again.
DAMN!:!:
JETSKI, shortly after the Diaconu-Hoye fight, you agreed that you would take an avatar bet with me on this (one month I think?). Are you still up for it?
I don't think the fight will happen in November because nobody knows Diaconu right now and a win over him won't be a huge reward for Dawson, but if Dawson can't get a meaningful fight, then hopefully it will happen.
Dawson would easily win this fight by very wide UD and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he stopped him. Diaconu is extremely overrated on here after his win over Hoye and the hype he is getting from some people on here is unbelievable. The guy's "rip your head off" power is WAY WAY WAY overrated. Just because his style makes him look like a Tyson-like monster doesn't mean he is. Do the guys in here hyping him up like crazy even know about his other matches where he couldn't knock out D level fighters over 10+ rounds? The reality is that Diaconu has a very aggressive style, but just "good" power and Dawson is on a whole different level than him.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 05:39 AM
Let's go through some facts and see where they lead us...
Dawson has to fight Diaconu at some stage, because Diaconu is the mandatory and he badly wants a shot at Dawson. Money will NOT buy him off. Diaconu's shareprice is at its highest NOW, after Hoye. Dawson has bigger fish to fry than Diaconu. If he fries one now, then what's the point of a Diaconu fight later, when Diaconu might not be looked upon as being as impressive as he was against Hoye and his share price decreases. In conclusion, IT MAKES SENSE for Dawson to get the Diaconu fight out of the way NOW and concentrate on the bigger fights later, with his reputation sky-high, having clubbered the Diaconu monster. Then, if Diaconu disapoints in his future fights, hey, nobody cares, because Dawson will have damaged him for ever, right?
The only reason why Dawson would not fight Diaconu next is because he is afraid that Diaconu's sky-high confidence after Hoye might lead him to KTFO him.
So...what do you think, is Bad Chad afraid of a confident but inferior opponent? Is he pussy? Let's hear it! Because nobody can convince me that it's good for Chad's career NOT to beat Diaconu NOW....unless you think that Diaconu would KTFO him, of course...:yep
Let's go through some facts and see where they lead us...
Dawson has to fight Diaconu at some stage, because Diaconu is the mandatory and he badly wants a shot at Dawson. Money will NOT buy him off. Diaconu's shareprice is at its highest NOW, after Hoye. Dawson has bigger fish to fry than Diaconu. If he fries one now, then what's the point of a Diaconu fight later, when Diaconu might not be looked upon as being as impressive as he was against Hoye and his share price decreases. In conclusion, IT MAKES SENSE for Dawson to get the Diaconu fight out of the way NOW and concentrate on the bigger fights later, with his reputation sky-high, having clubbered the Diaconu monster. Then, if Diaconu disapoints in his future fights, hey, nobody cares, because Dawson will have damaged him for ever, right?
The only reason why Dawson would not fight Diaconu next is because he is afraid that Diaconu's sky-high confidence after Hoye might lead him to KTFO him.
So...what do you think, is Bad Chad afraid of a confident but inferior opponent? Is he pussy? Let's hear it! Because nobody can convince me that it's good for Chad's career NOT to beat Diaconu NOW....unless you think that Diaconu would KTFO him, of course...:yep
You can spin it anyway you want. I'm praying this fight happens so his hype ends faster. Why don't you even answer my question? Do you know that Diaconu couldn't knock out D level fighters over 10+ rounds? Have you watched any of his fights except the one against Hoye? Would you like to take a one-month avatar bet with me?
Insulting the young, extremely talented, potential future pound for pounder Chad Dawson and speaking so highly about the guy who hasn't proven almost anything in his 6+ year career yet is ridiculous. The hype that many unproven fighters get on here is a joke. Especially some of the white ones. Take the one month avatar bet with me if you're so confident, make it two months if you want.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 05:54 AM
And another thing...Diaconu is HUNGRY! He knows he will never win on points against Dawson. The judges wouldn't give Diaconu a decision even if it were close, which it's unlikely to be anyway! Diaconu will go for it. He has nothing to lose. The only way this will go to cards is if he keeps being turned by Dawson and he repeatedly slips and falls all night. Not going to happen. Diaconu will either KTFO Dawson or he will get TKO'ed by Dawson. I am inclined to go with the latter option, though I would not be surprised at all if Diaconu would yes, rip his head off.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 06:01 AM
You can spin it anyway you want. I'm praying this fight happens so his hype ends faster. Why don't you even answer my question? Do you know that Diaconu couldn't knock out D level fighters over 10+ rounds? Have you watched any of his fights except the one against Hoye? Would you like to take a one-month avatar bet with me?
Insulting the young, extremely talented, potential future pound for pounder Chad Dawson and speaking so highly about the guy who hasn't proven almost anything in his 6+ year career yet is ridiculous. The hype that many unproven fighters get on here is a joke. Especially some of the white ones. Take the one month avatar bet with me if you're so confident, make it two months if you want.
Sorry, what bet do you want me to take? I never said that Dawson wouldn't win, did I? I just said that Diaconu has a good chance of KTFO Dawson out and BECAUSE he will go for it, it is unlikely that this fight will go to decision. It will be an EXCITING fight. I want to see it. I want to see Dawson shine and outwit the bull Diaconu. And if the bull gets to score...the crowds will love it too, won't they? I don't understand what you are on about...
My argument is this:
Given that Dawson has to fight Diaconu at some stage, he should do it now when the Diaconu hype is at its highest, especially if Diaconu ain't that good really. He should not fight Diaconu later, when Diaconu might not look so hot. The only reason why Dawson would not want to fight this uber-hyped opponent NOW is because he thinks he might indeed get KTFO and to avoid that, is waiting for Diaconu to stop riding the confidence wave thus becoming less dangerous and more easily beaten.
What is wrong with this argument?
Sorry, what bet do you want me to take? I never said that Dawson wouldn't win, did I? I just said that Diaconu has a good chance of KTFO Dawson out and BECAUSE he will go for it, it is unlikely that this fight will go to decision. It will be an EXCITING fight. I want to see it. I want to see Dawson shine and outwit the bull Diaconu. And if the bull gets to score...the crowds will love it too, won't they? I don't understand what you are on about...
My argument is this:
Given that Dawson has to fight Diaconu at some stage, he should do it now when the Diaconu hype is at its highest, especially if Diaconu ain't that good really. He should not fight Diaconu later, when Diaconu might not look so hot. The only reason why Dawson would not want to fight this uber-hyped opponent NOW is because he thinks he might indeed get KTFO and to avoid that, is waiting for Diaconu to stop riding the confidence wave thus becoming less dangerous and more easily beaten.
What is wrong with this argument?
I don't want to sit and argue about this and I looked back and saw that you did say that Dawson would probably beat him, so all I'll say is, go look at Diaconu's other fights. Look at how his power is good at best. If you think Diaconu has a very good chance at knocking out Dawson you have to be on drugs. I think he has a tiny chance at KO'ing Dawson and that's being nice. Oh well.
"Uber-hyped" Diaconu? That's where you miss the point. On here, he is uber hyped by a few people, but that's it. Most boxing fans have no idea who he is, so there is no "uber-hype" for him at all. He knocked out Hoye on ESPN and got some people on the internet talking about him. If Dawson faces him tomorrow, the average showtime boxing viewer will not be very excited about the fight and will not be very impressed with Dawson after he outboxes Diaconu easily. BUT, if Diaconu goes on HBO or Showtime and wins 1 or 2 fights impressively against pretty good competition, people will get excited about him and Dawson vs Diaconu would be a much bigger event. That means more excitement for average fans and bigger paydays for both guys.
BobbyFalk
07-13-2007, 06:26 AM
What happened to Dawson vs. Tarver?
this is the fight the division needs- SHOWTIME was trying to build that up , with the double-header last month- so what the F#%*??
Seems that DIACONU is a good fighter, but come on'- Dawson needs TARVER, and Tarver needs DAWSON- make that fight first!
Tarver is 38 years old
What happened to Dawson vs. Tarver?
this is the fight the division needs- SHOWTIME was trying to build that up , with the double-header last month- so what the F#%*??
Seems that DIACONU is a good fighter, but come on'- Dawson needs TARVER, and Tarver needs DAWSON- make that fight first!
Tarver is 38 years old
Tarver is currently ducking Dawson and really wants to make a fight with Jeff Lacy.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 06:35 AM
Well, of course Dawson would "probably beat him"...but it's going to have to be a KO/TKO...he won't win by decision...bulls don't die because you keep on stabbing them with the banderillas...they die because you've stabbed them in the heart with your sword after dodging them all night...because, trust me, this bull will keep on charging!:yep
What an exciting fight! What an opportunity to shine for Dawson!
Decebal
07-13-2007, 02:34 PM
any other views?:think
Amsterdam
07-13-2007, 02:40 PM
any other views?:think
Absolutley!
Dawson blows this guy out and stops him in the 10th or 11th on total punishment. Diaconu tends to lose grip mentally in a really tough affair(see the Thysse bout where he gave away the last four rounds) and he's very hittable and throws wide.
Dawson by brutal slaughter stoppage, after 10 rounds of a brutal beatdown.
Bet the house on Dawson.:yep :good
Also, Dawson's chin is not bad at all, it's just not great, average I'd say, he was dropped off balance by Harding and was caught flush by Adamek in a spot he didn't see, he got up however and closed the round big, a chinny fighter gets finished in that scenerio.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 02:44 PM
Amsterdam, do you think Dawson should do it NOW or later, after 1-2 fights?
Amsterdam
07-13-2007, 02:47 PM
Amsterdam, do you think Dawson should do it NOW or later, after 1-2 fights?
NOW.
This is an easy fight, not a challenge stylistically like old man Glen Johnson would be(believe it or not!). Or like one of the awesome guys from 168 moving up would be.
The LHW division is relatively weak and Diaconu is an average player in it at best who's touted highly for the typical exciting pressure fighting style, he's not even in Dawson's class.
Chopping Adamek to pieces was a harder challenge then Adrien...
Decebal
07-13-2007, 02:50 PM
NOW.
This is an easy fight, not a challenge stylistically like old man Glen Johnson would be(believe it or not!). Or like one of the awesome guys from 168 moving up would be.
The LHW division is relatively weak and Diaconu is an average player in it at best who's touted highly for the typical exciting pressure fighting style, he's not even in Dawson's class.
Chopping Adamek to pieces was a harder challenge then Adrien...
Then lets get it over with! Do you think Diaconu will charge? I really don't see this going to cards. He has no chance against Dawson on points and will blow himself out trying for a KTFO. I think Dawson will have to KO/TKO him. What do you think?
Amsterdam
07-13-2007, 02:52 PM
Then lets get it over with! Do you think Diaconu will charge? I really don't see this going to cards. He has no chance against Dawson on points and will blow himself out trying for a KTFO. I think Dawson will have to KO/TKO him. What do you think?
I already said what I think, Dawson TKO 10, or somewhere around there.
Diaconu shuts down late and Dawson will be pounding on him. I'm taking Dawson by KO on a money bet also, easy money.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 02:53 PM
Thanks, Amsterdam!:good
eltabarnacos
07-13-2007, 03:36 PM
Its either Dawson UD or Diaconu KO
Diaconu is a P4P powerwise.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 03:53 PM
Its either Dawson UD or Diaconu KO
Diaconu is a P4P powerwise.
Diaconu is becoming quite popular with the fans in Montreal...he is not too far from Bute and gaining!
Amsterdam
07-13-2007, 03:57 PM
Its either Dawson UD or Diaconu KO
Diaconu is a P4P powerwise.
Laughable. The guys a bottom top 10 LHW at best.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 03:59 PM
I don't think it's so much the power as much as the aim. He CAN hit the target with a big swing!
Amsterdam
07-13-2007, 04:02 PM
I don't think it's so much the power as much as the aim. He CAN hit the target with a big swing!
Somehow KOing china chinned Rico Hoye means you can KO Dawson!:lol:
I picked Diaconu KO 2 in that fight by the way, was no surprise there considering feather fisted Woods stopped Rico Hoye.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 04:13 PM
Somehow KOing china chinned Rico Hoye means you can KO Dawson!:lol:
I picked Diaconu KO 2 in that fight by the way, was no surprise there considering feather fisted Woods stopped Rico Hoye.
You know I respect your opinion! Everyone here does! You are probably right. I am just glad for Dawson if he accepts this fight because it's a good chance to shine, and I am happy for Adrian because he will be able to go full out and really enjoy himself and put on a show to the best of his abilities, and if he loses having fought bravely, NO PROBLEM; his fans will still enjoy his spirit and direct style. :happy
andyZOR
07-13-2007, 04:22 PM
Diaconu KO 6.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 04:44 PM
Does anyone know if this is a done deal or not???
alas! no.
Two top 10 Lightheavyweights going at it, both 24-0. Should be a great fight. :happy
Dawson is rated higher and is the champ, Diaconu is his mandatory and is due before the year is up, so they will square off next.
I think Dawson will pick up yet another big win over a top contender and make a solid case for himself as a P4P level fighter.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 05:44 PM
Two top 10 Lightheavyweights going at it, both 24-0. Should be a great fight. :happy
Dawson is rated higher and is the champ, Diaconu is his mandatory and is due before the year is up, so they will square off next.
I think Dawson will pick up yet another big win over a top contender and make a solid case for himself as a P4P level fighter.
At least someone is excited about this!:good
And yes, the fight is not official yet, but Adrian is Dawson's mandatory after KOing Hoye, and is due by the end of October. Of course, if the two sides sign for Novemeber that is not a problem. If anything they will end up going to purse bids for this one. Dawson would not give up his belt, unless it meant a mega-money fight with someone like Roy Jones.
Let's hope it doesn't turn into a Peter-Maskaev like scenario though, my faith in the WBC upholding their rules has been slipping as of late. :-((
At least someone is excited about this!:good
You got it! Two undefeated top ten fighters going at it, each with a solid amateur pedigree and pop in his fists, what's not to be excited about?? :bbb
Only one of the two has P4P level skills though. :deal
eltabarnacos
07-13-2007, 05:56 PM
Laughable. The guys a bottom top 10 LHW at best.
I agree he is at best in the bottom of the top ten overall but, I'm only talking about pure power, he is probably the hardest hitter at 175, with both hands.
I didnt discovered him in his fight with Hoye, Ive been following his career since the begining, and he always been a murderer puncher, he became a better boxer lately, what makes him a top 10 at 175.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 05:57 PM
Only one of the two has P4P level skills though. :deal
Right! Diaconu isn't much of a boxer at all - he just wants to pop your head off!:lol: But this fight can really allow Dawson to shine, because he will have to do something different than what he did against TA. The Bull will keep on charging, taking big risks. Diaconu has NOTHING to lose. As long as he makes a spirited exciting fight, his fans will be happy! Diaconu cannot win on points, so there's no point trying to box. He will go for it big time. I don't think it will go to scorecards...
Just realized this fight is going to be in Diaconu's hometown (if it comes off as boxrec seems to think it will), which will play to the Romanian's advantage.
Dawson signed to face Stipe Drews in Germany and looks to be heading into a dangerous opponent's backyard yet again...that's called acting like a real champ.
Decebal
07-13-2007, 06:08 PM
Just realized this fight is going to be in Diaconu's hometown (if it comes off as boxrec seems to think it will), which will play to the Romanian's advantage.
Dawson signed to face Stipe Drews in Germany and looks to be heading into a dangerous opponent's backyard yet again...that's called acting like a real champ.
Damn right! You've got to respect Chad for that! Adrian will have 10.000 people calling "ADI, ADI, ADI!" all night!:yep It also shows that Interbox are enlightened. They are putting up the money to bring the Champs to THEM, in order to build the brand and make Montreal a home for boxing. This means that Bute and Diaconu fight for peanuts, but to them, it's worth it. They fight the best in front of their home fans! You've got to respect that too!
Damn right! You've got to respect Chad for that! Adrian will have 10.000 people calling "ADI, ADI, ADI!" all night!:yep It also shows that Interbox are enlightened. They are putting up the money to bring the Champs to THEM, in order to build the brand and make Montreal a home for boxing. This means that Bute and Diaconu fight for peanuts, but to them, it's worth it. They fight the best in front of their home fans! You've got to respect that too!
Interbox have really come up strong lately. Theyve got 2 unbeaten mandatories lined up now, for the WBC 175 and IBF 168 lb belts, both with real chances to win.
Theyre getting the media attention as well now. All Russ Anber talks about these days is Diaconu and Bute. :yep
Amsterdam
07-13-2007, 09:57 PM
At least someone is excited about this!:good
I'm well excited, I'll get a good price on the KO!:lol:
I agree he is at best in the bottom of the top ten overall but, I'm only talking about pure power, he is probably the hardest hitter at 175, with both hands.
I didnt discovered him in his fight with Hoye, Ive been following his career since the begining, and he always been a murderer puncher, he became a better boxer lately, what makes him a top 10 at 175.
If he's such a murderous puncher, why couldn't he knock out numerous glass chinned bums in long fights?
If he's such a murderous puncher, why couldn't he knock out numerous glass chinned bums in long fights?
People always ask this regarding Diaconu.
The answer is that he never used to pace himself in his first 20 or so fights. Take the Thysse fight for example, Thysse had never been down before and he had been in the ring with Kessler, Brahmer, and Bute. Adrian knocks him down hard in round 1 and nearly finishes him, thysse hangs on and Diaconu wastes all his energy in the first few rounds going for the KO.
Thysse was later quoted as saying "that punch knocked me right into the third round".
Diaconu is a much smarter fighter now.
People always ask this regarding Diaconu.
The answer is that he never used to pace himself in his first 20 or so fights. Take the Thysse fight for example, Thysse had never been down before and he had been in the ring with Kessler, Brahmer, and Bute. Adrian knocks him down hard in round 1 and nearly finishes him, thysse hangs on and Diaconu wastes all his energy in the first few rounds going for the KO.
Thysse was later quoted as saying "that punch knocked me right into the third round".
Diaconu is a much smarter fighter now.
Alright, I can take the Thysse fight for example. Kessler and Magee stopped him late and Diaconu didnt. Diaconu fought this guy just 2 fights ago. One fight ago, he fought a glass chinned bum named Orlando Rivera who has been stopped by light hitters. He couldn't stop him in 12 rounds. He's a much smarter fighter NOW? Haha, so after he knocked out another glass-chinned boxer, Hoye, in a few rounds you think he's magically a completely different, smarter fighter who paces himself more? Your attempt at hyping up Diaconu failed, figure out a new spin on it.
Lampley
07-13-2007, 10:35 PM
People always ask this regarding Diaconu.
The answer is that he never used to pace himself in his first 20 or so fights. Take the Thysse fight for example, Thysse had never been down before and he had been in the ring with Kessler, Brahmer, and Bute. Adrian knocks him down hard in round 1 and nearly finishes him, thysse hangs on and Diaconu wastes all his energy in the first few rounds going for the KO.
Thysse was later quoted as saying "that punch knocked me right into the third round".
Diaconu is a much smarter fighter now.
I don't know that I buy this. Essentially, you're saying that he tried very hard to get the KO against those guys, and for whatever reason, he wasn't able to do it. Even before any fatigue issue sets in (another question), shouldn't his unbridled aggression have been enough to stop lower-tier opponents?
I like Diaconu and think he's a dangerous opponent for Chad, but to me he obviously can be defended against to some extent. If Dawson is able to do the same, with the additional counter and combo abilities he has, this could turn out to be a lopsided fight. I'll defer to others who've seen AD in action more than me, though.
Can't get too excited until it's official. Boxrec consistently is the worst source of news.
crashzzz
07-14-2007, 02:24 AM
Alright, I can take the Thysse fight for example. Kessler and Magee stopped him late and Diaconu didnt. Diaconu fought this guy just 2 fights ago. One fight ago, he fought a glass chinned bum named Orlando Rivera who has been stopped by light hitters. He couldn't stop him in 12 rounds. He's a much smarter fighter NOW? Haha, so after he knocked out another glass-chinned boxer, Hoye, in a few rounds you think he's magically a completely different, smarter fighter who paces himself more? Your attempt at hyping up Diaconu failed, figure out a new spin on it.
Diaconu is the only one to have knocked Thysse to the canvas...
crashzzz
07-14-2007, 02:42 AM
Alright, I can take the Thysse fight for example. Kessler and Magee stopped him late and Diaconu didnt. Diaconu fought this guy just 2 fights ago. One fight ago, he fought a glass chinned bum named Orlando Rivera who has been stopped by light hitters. He couldn't stop him in 12 rounds. He's a much smarter fighter NOW? Haha, so after he knocked out another glass-chinned boxer, Hoye, in a few rounds you think he's magically a completely different, smarter fighter who paces himself more? Your attempt at hyping up Diaconu failed, figure out a new spin on it.
...and how can you say that Hoye is glass-chinned?? :huh
he too, never went down to the canvas before? so wtf?
DanePugilist
07-14-2007, 02:46 AM
I hope for Adrian, but this will be an awesome fight. Kudos to both for making it happening.
Amsterdam
07-14-2007, 03:05 AM
...and how can you say that Hoye is glass-chinned?? :huh
he too, never went down to the canvas before? so wtf?
:-( :-( :-( :-(
I forget what a gift chin checking skills are with posts like these.
crashzzz
07-14-2007, 03:13 AM
no, but seriously, just because a fighter goes down once in his career doesn't automatically makes him a "glass-chin"...
Calzaghe has already been to the canvas, yet he doesn't have a glass-chin at all...
So why call Hoye glass-chinned just 'cause Diaconu was the first to knock him down?
I don't know that I buy this. Essentially, you're saying that he tried very hard to get the KO against those guys, and for whatever reason, he wasn't able to do it. Even before any fatigue issue sets in (another question), shouldn't his unbridled aggression have been enough to stop lower-tier opponents?
I like Diaconu and think he's a dangerous opponent for Chad, but to me he obviously can be defended against to some extent. If Dawson is able to do the same, with the additional counter and combo abilities he has, this could turn out to be a lopsided fight. I'll defer to others who've seen AD in action more than me, though.
Can't get too excited until it's official. Boxrec consistently is the worst source of news.
A guy like Thysse has a rock solid chin, so no, unbridled aggression typically doesn't do the trick. I have not seen all of Diaconu's fights and am in no way defending some of the opponents that went the distance with him. Bear in mind though that for a puncher it is common practice for trainers to ask them to simply "go rounds" with lesser opponents, to work on some things.
Chad can easily make this his fight (and I expect him too), but will have to be wary of Diaconu's bombs for the full twelve rounds. On that note, look at the guys Dawson is fighting this year: Adamek (has one shot-KO power), Ruiz (C class fighter with a good punch), and now Diaconu (unbeaten powerpuncher). Pretty impressive for a guy who some think has a shaky chin.
huki, I am not spinning anything, I've followed Diaconu for a while and this is simply my take on him as a fighter. You don't really need to put in much effort to hype a 24-0 unbeaten former Olympian with a big punch, I'll let his promoter do that. :hi:
Amsterdam
07-14-2007, 03:20 AM
no, but seriously, just because a fighter goes down once in his career doesn't automatically makes him a "glass-chin"...
Calzaghe has already been to the canvas, yet he doesn't have a glass-chin at all...
So why call Hoye glass-chinned just 'cause Diaconu was the first to knock him down?
Diaconu starched Hoye in round 3, he didn't just send him down. Calzaghe was KD'd and jumped back up to finish his opponent, where as Hoye was finished off easily, plus was stopped on his feet by feather fisted Clinton Woods.
no, but seriously, just because a fighter goes down once in his career doesn't automatically makes him a "glass-chin"...
Calzaghe has already been to the canvas, yet he doesn't have a glass-chin at all...
So why call Hoye glass-chinned just 'cause Diaconu was the first to knock him down?
There is little evidence for Hoye having a glass jaw. Getting KTFO by Diaconu hardly proves anything about one's chin. Hoye took some bombs from an older Richard Hall and was never hurt, his chin was actually quite decent. :good
DanePugilist
07-14-2007, 03:24 AM
:-( :-( :-( :-(
I forget what a gift chin checking skills are with posts like these.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Amsterdam
07-14-2007, 03:28 AM
There is little evidence for Hoye having a glass jaw. Getting KTFO by Diaconu hardly proves anything about one's chin. Hoye took some bombs from an older Richard Hall and was never hurt, his chin was actually quite decent. :good
You've never heard of the Zakman-Amsterdam scale?
Hoye - Glass.:yep
You've never heard of the Zakman-Amsterdam scale?
Hoye - Glass.:yep
Ok, if you say so. :tong
A guy like Thysse has a rock solid chin, so no, unbridled aggression typically doesn't do the trick. I have not seen all of Diaconu's fights and am in no way defending some of the opponents that went the distance with him. Bear in mind though that for a puncher it is common practice for trainers to ask them to simply "go rounds" with lesser opponents, to work on some things.
Chad can easily make this his fight (and I expect him too), but will have to be wary of Diaconu's bombs for the full twelve rounds. On that note, look at the guys Dawson is fighting this year: Adamek (has one shot-KO power), Ruiz (C class fighter with a good punch), and now Diaconu (unbeaten powerpuncher). Pretty impressive for a guy who some think has a shaky chin.
huki, I am not spinning anything, I've followed Diaconu for a while and this is simply my take on him as a fighter. You don't really need to put in much effort to hype a 24-0 unbeaten former Olympian with a big punch, I'll let his promoter do that. :hi:
"A guy like Thysse has a rock solid chin"? He got stopped more than once and his chin is rock solid? And Diaconu knocked him down? So what? Getting knocked down has nothing to do with chins. Being hurt and the rate at which you recover does.
And being a 24-0 olympian with a big punch (15 KO's :lol:) is nothing impressive. Check boxrec and you'll find a ton of them that will never amount to anything at the top level.
I don't know what your defintion of spinning something is, but you seem to be trying really hard to look for every excuse you could find for this huge puncher who has such a low KO%.
Decebal
07-14-2007, 07:31 AM
Getting knocked down has nothing to do with chins.
:verysad
Decebal
07-14-2007, 07:33 AM
You've never heard of the Zakman-Amsterdam scale?
Hoye - Glass.:yep
Funnily enough, Diaconu didn't KTFO Hoye because the latter had a glass chin, but because he managed to repeatedly hit him - this non-boxer outboxed him badly. He would have KTFO someone with an iron chin eventually, at the rate that he was landing punches.
Maxime
07-14-2007, 11:48 AM
"A guy like Thysse has a rock solid chin"? He got stopped more than once and his chin is rock solid? And Diaconu knocked him down? So what? Getting knocked down has nothing to do with chins. Being hurt and the rate at which you recover does.
And being a 24-0 olympian with a big punch (15 KO's :lol:) is nothing impressive. Check boxrec and you'll find a ton of them that will never amount to anything at the top level.
I don't know what your defintion of spinning something is, but you seem to be trying really hard to look for every excuse you could find for this huge puncher who has such a low KO%.
Thysse has an iron chin. If you don't know what you're talking about it's always better to shot the fuck up.
;)
Decebal
07-14-2007, 12:09 PM
:shock: :lol:
Lampley
07-14-2007, 12:50 PM
Chad can easily make this his fight (and I expect him too), but will have to be wary of Diaconu's bombs for the full twelve rounds.
But isn't this true for any fighter facing a power puncher? You seem to acknowledge that Diaconu would be the severe underdog here, but yet there still seems to be a bit of hype to your posts. I'm not sure what you truly are trying to articulate.
I don't dispute AD's power. The guy obviously is a hitter. My question is why some lesser lights are taking him the distance, and why we think Dawson won't have an easier time doing the same. If those guys can nullify Diaconu's power, shouldn't an elite fighter like Dawson be able to do the same, and with much greater powers of retaliation?
I'd like to see the fight, and Chad's tendency to coast may get him KOd somwhere in here, but I don't see why there'd be a particular push for this bout. I'd much rather see him fight Tarver or Johnson, or maybe one of the other beltholders.
Decebal
07-14-2007, 01:00 PM
Tarver is 38 and overrated. Dawson needs to fight fighters who have a pulse, not just legendary waxworks. Tarver would be a "name" on Dawson's resume. But a win against Diaconu means more right now. Diaconu is rather good NOW. Whether he was good before doesn't much matter. He is improving fast, if you will. And he can hit, with some power, NOW. This fight doesn't neet hyped. It sells itself. Diaconu makes Top 10 at his weight. He will be a good challenger and will show us a different aspect of Dawson's game.
Lampley
07-14-2007, 01:56 PM
Tarver is 38 and overrated. Dawson needs to fight fighters who have a pulse, not just legendary waxworks. Tarver would be a "name" on Dawson's resume. But a win against Diaconu means more right now. Diaconu is rather good NOW. Whether he was good before doesn't much matter. He is improving fast, if you will. And he can hit, with some power, NOW. This fight doesn't neet hyped. It sells itself. Diaconu makes Top 10 at his weight. He will be a good challenger and will show us a different aspect of Dawson's game.
I agree that Tarver is severely faded, but Dawson needs that scalp for credibility purposes to set up bigger fights, and Antonio even today has a puncher's chance.
If Diaconu is as good as you say, why doesn't *he* fight someone with a pulse? If it's such a great fight, why rush it? Let AD win a belt and Dawson remove Tarver or Johnson from contention permanently, and there'd be more money in the fight later.
I'd certainly be happy to see the fight now, but again, why the big push? This is not a big fight for casual fans, because even Dawson himself has no real name (hence the reason he needs Tarver).
Decebal
07-14-2007, 02:04 PM
I agree that Tarver is severely faded, but Dawson needs that scalp for credibility purposes to set up bigger fights, and Antonio even today has a puncher's chance.
If Diaconu is as good as you say, why doesn't *he* fight someone with a pulse? If it's such a great fight, why rush it? Let AD win a belt and Dawson remove Tarver or Johnson from contention permanently, and there'd be more money in the fight later.
I'd certainly be happy to see the fight now, but again, why the big push? This is not a big fight for casual fans, because even Dawson himself has no real name (hence the reason he needs Tarver).
Whom should Diaconu fight to make a name for himself?
Sonny Carson
07-14-2007, 05:43 PM
I don't think Dawson has a glass jaw at all. When he was knocked down by Adamek he got his legs back.
Decebal
07-14-2007, 05:47 PM
I don't think anyone is saying Dawson has a china chin. Some are saying that Dawson's chin might be slightly less than solid. But that might be enough against a puncher like AD...
"A guy like Thysse has a rock solid chin"? He got stopped more than once and his chin is rock solid? And Diaconu knocked him down? So what? Getting knocked down has nothing to do with chins. Being hurt and the rate at which you recover does.
And being a 24-0 olympian with a big punch (15 KO's :lol:) is nothing impressive. Check boxrec and you'll find a ton of them that will never amount to anything at the top level.
I don't know what your defintion of spinning something is, but you seem to be trying really hard to look for every excuse you could find for this huge puncher who has such a low KO%.
Idiot. :lol:
Thysse has an iron chin. If you don't know what you're talking about it's always better to shot the fuck up.
;)
:good
But isn't this true for any fighter facing a power puncher? You seem to acknowledge that Diaconu would be the severe underdog here, but yet there still seems to be a bit of hype to your posts. I'm not sure what you truly are trying to articulate.
I don't dispute AD's power. The guy obviously is a hitter. My question is why some lesser lights are taking him the distance, and why we think Dawson won't have an easier time doing the same. If those guys can nullify Diaconu's power, shouldn't an elite fighter like Dawson be able to do the same, and with much greater powers of retaliation?
I'd like to see the fight, and Chad's tendency to coast may get him KOd somwhere in here, but I don't see why there'd be a particular push for this bout. I'd much rather see him fight Tarver or Johnson, or maybe one of the other beltholders.
Well for one thing Diaconu is in his prime, unlike say a Tarver, although I too would like to see Antonio humiliated at the hands of Bad Chad.
Yes, every fighter facing a power puncher is faced with the same dilemma. However, Dawson's last opponent had a good punch as well, yet he was quite less polished in the technical department than Diaconu; the lack of an amateur pedigree was quite obvious. Needless to say, power punchers vary in their abilities at cutting off the ring, at their body work, and at their ability to penetrate a good defence.
Diaconu seems to be fairly solid at all of these facets, though not exceptional at anything other than the grand finish. Still, he is a solid opponent for Dawson and is indeed his mandatory challenger, so we should applaud both men if the fight does come off, imo.
Decebal
07-14-2007, 07:59 PM
Whom should Diaconu fight to make a name for himself?
...if not Dawson...
you guys still haven't answered. Should he fight A "Name"? Isn't it better to fight one of the best guys in boxing? Who cares what Joe Public thinks about Diaconu/Dawson. It's what true fans think that really matters. Diaconu couldn't possibly hope for a better fight. I would argue Dawson wouldn't do that badly either. Maybe I am wrong, but please don't mention Tarver...
...if not Dawson...
you guys still haven't answered. Should he fight A "Name"? Isn't it better to fight one of the best guys in boxing? Who cares what Joe Public thinks about Diaconu/Dawson. It's what true fans think that really matters. Diaconu couldn't possibly hope for a better fight. I would argue Dawson wouldn't do that badly either. Maybe I am wrong, but please don't mention Tarver...
Diaconu's only other option would be to pursue another belt.
The WBA is tied up for now (Drews will face Ulrich or the Briggs-Garay winner), so is the IBF (Johnson and Gonzo are the top two). WBO champ Erdei hasn't fought a good opponent in a long time. Chad is probably the best of the beltholders, but also the most accessible one at the moment.
As to the other big "names", such as Tarver and RJJ, they simply don't want any, even from guys who hold a title and are fairly established. Tarver wouldn't fight Adamek who had notched a few defences, he won't even look at a dangerous opponent like Diaconu who brings no belt to the table.
goofy
07-15-2007, 05:50 AM
The problem with all those Diaconu haters is that they dont know anything about him. Hoye is tall and a jab leading boxer too (not as skilled as Dawson but still a decent fighter). If Chad as a "great boxer" will not pack some power to hurt Diaconu in long range combos he will lose. U can run for 12 rounds and still get a UD but very unlikely in Montreal. When the doctor will enter the ring to attend Chad ...u haters will hate Adrian even more :deal
Cheers
Decebal
07-15-2007, 05:53 AM
:lol:
Decebal
07-15-2007, 05:54 AM
Diaconu's only other option would be to pursue another belt.
The WBA is tied up for now (Drews will face Ulrich or the Briggs-Garay winner), so is the IBF (Johnson and Gonzo are the top two). WBO champ Erdei hasn't fought a good opponent in a long time. Chad is probably the best of the beltholders, but also the most accessible one at the moment.
As to the other big "names", such as Tarver and RJJ, they simply don't want any, even from guys who hold a title and are fairly established. Tarver wouldn't fight Adamek who had notched a few defences, he won't even look at a dangerous opponent like Diaconu who brings no belt to the table.
:good
teekay00
08-23-2007, 05:50 AM
If you do not think that Diaconu diaconu's 62% ko rate is good then i guess you have been watching ufc too much. i dont care what boxer it is, you are going to knock everyone down everytime. Diaconu is UNDEFEATED as well is dawson. You cannot take that away from him. ok it looks like the only thing that can settle this argument is to have to wait until the fight happens. This fight will be a good one. If Dawson wins, he will win by points. If Diaconu wins, Chin Dwason will need attention from the referee. I am not gonna sit here and say Diaconu is a more skilled boxer thn Chin cuz he is not but if you are trying to say that there is not a fair chance that Diaconu will win by KTFO then someone needs to go back and watch a few highlights.
lefty
08-23-2007, 06:47 AM
If you do not think that Diaconu diaconu's 62% ko rate is good then i guess you have been watching ufc too much. i dont care what boxer it is, you are going to knock everyone down everytime. Diaconu is UNDEFEATED as well is dawson. You cannot take that away from him. ok it looks like the only thing that can settle this argument is to have to wait until the fight happens. This fight will be a good one. If Dawson wins, he will win by points. If Diaconu wins, Chin Dwason will need attention from the referee. I am not gonna sit here and say Diaconu is a more skilled boxer thn Chin cuz he is not but if you are trying to say that there is not a fair chance that Diaconu will win by KTFO then someone needs to go back and watch a few highlights.
LMAO at Chin Dawson. Pernell Whitaker used to get knocked down without being hurt aswell, is he also 'chinny'?
Azriel
08-23-2007, 08:35 AM
We'll see what happens with the fight but I think that when Dawson jumps ahead with his jab he presents his chin a little too much. He did it with Adamek but Adamek wasn't able to adjust.
Diaconu is very precise with his straight right so I think he'll stop Dawson.:rasta
JETSKI
08-23-2007, 08:44 AM
Anyone going to record this fight on DVD? If so, I would like to buy a copy for a fair price.
I'll be in AC to see Taylor vs Pavlik & my friend will be recording the fight in AC, so I have to make some arrangements to be able to watch the Dawson Diaconu battle at a later date.
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