why floyd doesn't want anything to do with the SUGAR MAN!!

[Relentless]

2 words...........









POWER BOXING

[King Dan]

:rofl

Thats funny.

I am a big Mosley and Cotto fan.

Hopefully one of them gets Mayweather by winter and if not, I wish they'd fight eachother.

[justaboxingfan]

because you touch yourself at night:nut no seriously, Floyd believes he in a position to call the shots (financial, terms etc) plus he is officially retired so in order to get his ass in the ring, it needs to be worth his while. Also, everyone is making a big deal about Floyd asking for too much, you gotta understand he doesn't need the money and he's RETIRED. I believe all this news we're creating about him goes in his favour. Cocky or not, you guys WANT HIM to get back in the ring:deal

[Relentless]

if he was retired why did he claim the 147 title?? if he was retired shane mosley would have taken it.

[lefthook31]

because you touch yourself at night:nut no seriously, Floyd believes he in a position to call the shots (financial, terms etc) plus he is officially retired so in order to get his ass in the ring, it needs to be worth his while. Also, everyone is making a big deal about Floyd asking for too much, you gotta understand he doesn't need the money and he's RETIRED. I believe all this news we're creating about him goes in his favour. Cocky or not, you guys WANT HIM to get back in the ring:deal

Hes retired but he calls out Hatton and Oscar for a rematch?? I dont think so, he wants the biggest easiest fights for the money. Probably the best fights for the fans, is either Mosley or Cotto, then Hatton and Oscar in that order.

[scurlaruntings]

PBF likes what he does.His not retired and wont stay that way for long.He doesnt need boxing but he loves the sport thats for sure.The only guy im sure would beat him is Shane.He cant hurt him, shane is equally as fast, has a better chin (by a small margin) will walk through all his shots and hits 3 times as hard.But i doubt we`ll see this fight happen.

[justaboxingfan]

Hes retired but he calls out Hatton and Oscar for a rematch?? I dont think so, he wants the biggest easiest fights for the money. Probably the best fights for the fans, is either Mosley or Cotto, then Hatton and Oscar in that order.

Mayweather responded to Hattons remarks, you would do the same thing. Mayweather is playing it smart. Most knowlegdable people know there isn't anyone who could beat Floyd, thats why we say ______ has the best chance. Floyd knows what hes doing and we're eating it all up. Whether or not he has another fight, we will only begin to appreciate him in the years to come, like with all retired boxers.

[Relentless]

are you leonard ellerbe?

[justaboxingfan]

LOL steer me in the right direction, where am I fibbing?

[lefthook31]

Mayweather responded to Hattons remarks, you would do the same thing. Mayweather is playing it smart. Most knowlegdable people know there isn't anyone who could beat Floyd, thats why we say ______ has the best chance. Floyd knows what hes doing and we're eating it all up. Whether or not he has another fight, we will only begin to appreciate him in the years to come, like with all retired boxers.
100% Floyd will fight again. He will fight the guy who pays him the most. His handlers are negotiating fights right now for the future. My guess is it will be either Mosley or Hatton, and most likely Hatton in the fall.

[Smazz20]

Mayweather responded to Hattons remarks, you would do the same thing. Mayweather is playing it smart. Most knowlegdable people know there isn't anyone who could beat Floyd, thats why we say ______ has the best chance. Floyd knows what hes doing and we're eating it all up. Whether or not he has another fight, we will only begin to appreciate him in the years to come, like with all retired boxers.

No we won't all appreciate him. He's a fantastic fighter but he's leaving too many questions behind if he retires now. Put money aside for a moment and think of what he could achieve.

Fight Mosley, Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Williams, Cintron and maybe a rematch with ODLH. He fights even half of those and beats them all, he'll be a certified ATG.

Floyd is still young enough to drop down to 140 and beat Hatton. Undisputed LW champ. Makes up for not fighting KT. Move back to 147 and beat both Mosley and Cotto and maybe Margarito or Williams. No one could complain about him then.

[lefthook31]

No we won't all appreciate him. He's a fantastic fighter but he's leaving too many questions behind if he retires now. Put money aside for a moment and think of what he could achieve.

Fight Mosley, Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Williams, Cintron and maybe a rematch with ODLH. He fights even half of those and beats them all, he'll be a certified ATG.

Floyd is still young enough to drop down to 140 and beat Hatton. Undisputed LW champ. Makes up for not fighting KT. Move back to 147 and beat both Mosley and Cotto and maybe Margarito or Williams. No one could complain about him then.

I agree, the fighters in his division are all finally coming into their own, and providing solid opposition for his legacy. He needs to continue to fight and beat some of these other fightes. Beating Oscar was a great accomplishment, but beating Cotto, Hatton, Mosley and the Margarito Williams winner, would really put him over the top.

[Smazz20]

I agree, the fighters in his division are all finally coming into their own, and providing solid opposition for his legacy. He needs to continue to fight and beat some of these other fightes. Beating Oscar was a great accomplishment, but beating Cotto, Hatton, Mosley and the Margarito Williams winner, would really put him over the top.

This is my point. Everyone's screaming about who he fights next!! Fight them all. Leave no doubts as to his talent. If he fights Mosley next and loses, don't retire. Fight Hatton, or Cotto or whomever. A loss isn't the end of the world. He's only 30 and the way he fights he's got at least 6 years left in him. He has a good resume, but it's not a top 10 atg record and we all know that's what he'd really want.

[igotJUIC3]

No we won't all appreciate him. He's a fantastic fighter but he's leaving too many questions behind if he retires now. Put money aside for a moment and think of what he could achieve.

Fight Mosley, Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Williams, Cintron and maybe a rematch with ODLH. He fights even half of those and beats them all, he'll be a certified ATG.

Floyd is still young enough to drop down to 140 and beat Hatton. Undisputed LW champ. Makes up for not fighting KT. Move back to 147 and beat both Mosley and Cotto and maybe Margarito or Williams. No one could complain about him then.

i agree with most everything except having him to move down and back up...that takes a toll on your body...especially when you want him to do this and go against very good fighters you know.

I think he should stay at 147 which is the best division anyway and fight all comers....Mosley,Cotto,Margo, and if Hatton quits the belly aching and move up like most fighters have done.

[Boricua - TLH]

Mosely wouldn't last 12 rounds with Cotto. No WW boxer at 147 will. He pressures accurately, with a consistent gameplan which he executes to perfection. He implodes his opponents... Hey that could be a good nickname for him. Miguel "M-plosive" Cotto...

I'm sure that if Mosely Camp makes an offer to fight Cotto, his camp will acept, unlike that Mayweather fellow. However, if Mosely-Cotto fight occurs, look to see Mosely retired afterwards... Mayweather will truly retire after he fights Cotto as well... He'll be hurting forever...

[igotJUIC3]

Mosely wouldn't last 12 rounds with Cotto. No WW boxer at 147 will. He pressures accurately, with a consistent gameplan which he executes to perfection. He implodes his opponents... Hey that could be a good nickname for him. Miguel "M-plosive" Cotto...

I'm sure that if Mosely Camp makes an offer to fight Cotto, his camp will acept, unlike that Mayweather fellow. However, if Mosely-Cotto fight occurs, look to see Mosely retired afterwards... Mayweather will truly retire after he fights Cotto as well... He'll be hurting forever...

i was gonna trash this simple minded argument....but then i looked at your name so i see why you have spoken such blasphemy.

[Boricua - TLH]

i was gonna trash this simple minded argument....but then i looked at your name so i see why you have spoken such blasphemy.

:yep You know we Ricans have an extraordaniary sense of confidence and unconditional support for our fighters. No matter who they fight against we will believe they hold the upper hand. But I do think he has a chance of winning against Mosely. He'll have to train like never before and go mentally stronger than ever to be able to hold his own against a superb opponent in Mosely. That would be a true step up in oppsition and class for Cotto, but we are willing to live with the outcome.

PS - Sorry for the exaggeration, it was an emotional thing :yep!

[igotJUIC3]

:yep You know we Ricans have an extraordaniary sense of confidence and unconditional support for our fighters. No matter who they fight against we will believe they hold the upper hand. But I do think he has a chance of winning against Mosely. He'll have to train like never before and go mentally stronger than ever to be able to hold his own against a superb opponent in Mosely. That would be a true step up in oppsition and class for Cotto, but we are willing to live with the outcome.

PS - Sorry for the exaggeration, it was an emotional thing :yep!

MUCH better....:lol:

[Boricua - TLH]

MUCH better....:lol:

Now, seriously... When do you think Cotto could fight Mosely or PBF? If he as ready as he could be as of now or should he wait a little more?

[boy-wonder]

because you touch yourself at night:nut no seriously, Floyd believes he in a position to call the shots (financial, terms etc) plus he is officially retired so in order to get his ass in the ring, it needs to be worth his while. Also, everyone is making a big deal about Floyd asking for too much, you gotta understand he doesn't need the money and he's RETIRED. I believe all this news we're creating about him goes in his favour. Cocky or not, you guys WANT HIM to get back in the ring:deal


Floyd is retired?? funny that he gave up the 154 title but kept the 147 title............maybe he plans to fight at 147 again

[igotJUIC3]

Now, seriously... When do you think Cotto could fight Mosely or PBF? If he as ready as he could be as of now or should he wait a little more?

Look...as good a fighter Cotto is....he simply is not ready for slick, veteran, fast, fighters who have seen his type of pressure power punching style so it wont shake them.

Cotto is a beast do not get me wrong i like him over Margo and Hatton hands down but Cotto gets hit an awful lot and with the accuracy and speed of Floyd and Mosley you have to wonder with Cottos come forward style...he will have to turn into a counter puncher becaue floyd and Mosley with be first to the punch easily and get their shots off and get out...especially Floyd...Floyd ALWAYS sticks to his game plan and is never forced to fight anyones fight...which means PBF if fought Cotto right now easily outpoints Cotto because Floyd has master the ring generalship and his footwork...if you dont believe so just pay attention to Arum when he thinks Cotto is ready you best believe he will be calling Floyd or Mosley's name.....just look what he was doing for Margo...he blasted Floyd for ducking Margo and lobbied for Margo to fight Floyd because he backed Margo he flet Margo could win....now i have yet to hear Arum lobby Cotto to fight Floyd or even Mosley..but he has said he wanted him to fight Margo...its just Cotto isnt ready for those fights yet.

[scurlaruntings]

Mosely wouldn't last 12 rounds with Cotto. No WW boxer at 147 will. He pressures accurately, with a consistent gameplan which he executes to perfection. He implodes his opponents... Hey that could be a good nickname for him. Miguel "M-plosive" Cotto...

I'm sure that if Mosely Camp makes an offer to fight Cotto, his camp will acept, unlike that Mayweather fellow. However, if Mosely-Cotto fight occurs, look to see Mosely retired afterwards... Mayweather will truly retire after he fights Cotto as well... He'll be hurting forever...BWA HA HA. you must be new to boxing.Mosley wont last 12 will Cotto at 147? Yeah your right there. Cotto might end up on his ass KO`ed.That fight is even money and you know it.Shane has NEVER been KO`ed.Not even Vernon Forrest could do it and his a way bigger puncher than Cotto.Theres no way Cotto will be able to hit Shane as consistently as any of his previous foes.You sell Shane wayyy to short.

[Relentless]

BWA HA HA. you must be new to boxing.Mosley wont last 12 will Cotto at 147? Yeah your right there. Cotto might end up on his ass KO`ed.That fight is even money and you know it.Shane has NEVER been KO`ed.Not even Vernon Forrest could do it and his a way bigger puncher than Cotto.Theres no way Cotto will be able to hit Shane as consistently as any of his previous foes.You sell Shane wayyy to short.

No!

[BigReg]

Look...as good a fighter Cotto is....he simply is not ready for slick, veteran, fast, fighters who have seen his type of pressure power punching style so it wont shake them.

Cotto is a beast do not get me wrong i like him over Margo and Hatton hands down but he has said he wanted him to fight Margo...its just Cotto isnt ready for those fights yet.

Margarito would knock Cotto out. Anyone with boxing good boxing skills and a solid defense has a chance to beat Cotto. Anyone who is bigger and stronger than Cotto can beat him too. Cotto is almost 27, if he still isn't ready for certain fights, when will he be?

[Relentless]

Margarito would knock Cotto out. Anyone with boxing good boxing skills and a solid defense has a chance to beat Cotto. Anyone who is bigger and stronger than Cotto can beat him too. Cotto is almost 27, if he still isn't ready for certain fights, when will he be?

when he is 30 duh

[Relentless]

What kills me is the fact that the Floyd nuthuggers defends Floyd's actions, and credit him for making smart buisness decisions. While that might be true, what does his buisness decisions do for us, the fans?? Do we see a cut? Do his diehard fans recieve a secret check in the mail from Floyd? I watch boxing to see competitive matches, not to pat a fighter on the back for taking a less risky fight just because he is making more money off of it. What sense does that make? Boxing should be more like every other sport where there is a process of elimination, and the best HAVE to take on the best, no ifs and's or buts about it.

i have been saying that for a very long time.

imagine if gatti were to beat baldomir would floyd have fought him???

[igotJUIC3]

What kills me is the fact that the Floyd nuthuggers defends Floyd's actions, and credit him for making smart buisness decisions. While that might be true, what does his buisness decisions do for us, the fans?? Do we see a cut? Do his diehard fans recieve a secret check in the mail from Floyd? I watch boxing to see competitive matches, not to pat a fighter on the back for taking a less risky fight just because he is making more money off of it. What sense does that make? Boxing should be more like every other sport where there is a process of elimination, and the best HAVE to take on the best, no ifs and's or buts about it.

you hit it right on the head....it is consensus that PBF is the #1 guy in WW since he vacated the other belt for the 147....SO...like you said process of elimination...why arent te contenders fighting one another? Imagine if Cotto beat Margo and Mosley....HANDS DOWN he deseves his shot or vice versa for the other fighters...fact is....none have done it but all are saying they deserve the shot...thats not fair to ther champ cus now he HAS to pick and choose....and when he picks people start saying he ducking someone....but if the contenders make the decision for him by fighting ....then we know WHO REALLY deserves the shot and not comparing resumes and all that bullshyt!

[Relentless]

you hit it right on the head....it is consensus that PBF is the #1 guy in WW since he vacated the other belt for the 147....SO...like you said process of elimination...why arent te contenders fighting one another? Imagine if Cotto beat Margo and Mosley....HANDS DOWN he deseves his shot or vice versa for the other fighters...fact is....none have done it but all are saying they deserve the shot...thats not fair to ther champ cus now he HAS to pick and choose....see my point?

well cotto is fighting margo next or if not margo then mosley, but why should they go through elimination floyd should fight them all as the so called p4p number 1.

[Relentless]

floyd has the skills to beat them all but i dont understand why he doesn't do it.

[igotJUIC3]

It is Floyd who division hops, and cherry picks! He beat maybe the weakest WW title holder in the history of the sport, and now he wants to call himself the best WW in the world? Right now the division is strong. Whats so hard about defending your title against the top contenders? Thats all were asking for.

whats so hard about them actually earning the tittle shot??????????

[Boricua - TLH]

Margarito would knock Cotto out. Anyone with boxing good boxing skills and a solid defense has a chance to beat Cotto. Anyone who is bigger and stronger than Cotto can beat him too. Cotto is almost 27, if he still isn't ready for certain fights, when will he be?

This name and these two words don't belong in the same sentence, paragraph or ring. Since when does Margo has a solid defense? Clottey was hitting him at will in their fight. You should share the good stuff with the rest of us...:rasta

[SugarShane_24]

Floyd has to realize that taking risk is part of the game. shane took a lot of risk himself. and he paid for it. he gave the well-avoided forrest and wright their respective shots at him when no one would.

if floyd only gave us more quality fights. it doesn't have to be everytime, say every two or three fights he takes on the likes of margo, cotto etc. but no, like roy jones before him. what's important is that they are happy, not the fans. and they wonder why they bombed compared to pac's ticket sales.

[Boricua - TLH]

Hey Big Red,

Please answer my question... Margo + Solid Defense = Total Bullsh...

[BigReg]

Hey Big Red,

Please answer my question... Margo + Solid Defense = Total Bullsh...

I wasn't refering to Margartio when I mentioned fighters with solid defense. Margarito is one of the bigger, stronger fighters that I refered to. And it's BigReg not Big Red

[Boricua - TLH]

I wasn't refering to Margartio when I mentioned fighters with solid defense. Margarito is one of the bigger, stronger fighters that I refered to. And it's BigReg not Big Red

Yes... that's what everyone has always said about Cotto. Everytime he's going to fight a boxer: "He'll have problems with his opponents superior boxing skills", "He'll have a hard time trying to get to a slick south paw like ______", "He'll have to blah this, and blah that, in order to win this fight"... Guess what BigReg, he's beat them all. Boxers, punchers, technical fighters, taller, bigger, more reach. He finds a way to win. Some times a fighters WILL TO WIN does make the difference when only two men are between those 4 sets of ropes... Margo has a too much of a big target in that long rib cage of his for Cotto not to land consistiently and beating him down. I do think that Mosely is a greater challenge for Cotto than Margo will ever be. Mosely and PBF will be the Milestones for Cotto to reach P4P and ATG level... If he beats at least one of them, he'll deserve to be elevated to that status.
Margo would be another "imploded" victime in Cotto's KO column...:hey

[Relentless]

forget margarito this thread is about the sugar man and his power boxing skills which will ko boy joy boy floyd.

[kg0208]

Damn...according to you guys, PBF is ducking somebody no matter who he fights.

[Relentless]

pbf isn't ducking anyone, he will fight shane only if the price is right because he know that he is no match for the sugar mans power boxing so he might aswell take a good payday!

[kg0208]

pbf isn't ducking anyone, he will fight shane only if the price is right because he know that he is no match for the sugar mans power boxing so he might aswell take a good payday!

I thought Shane went AWAY from power boxing? Besides, it's Shane's combos that will cause PBF problems along with his speed. Not his power boxing.

[Guru_Too_You]

i have been saying that for a very long time.

imagine if gatti were to beat baldomir would floyd have fought him???

If he wanted to fight the REAL, LINEAR champion then yes.

[Guru_Too_You]

You honestly think that a rematch between Floyd and Gatti would've materialized if Gatti would've beat Baldo? Cmon Guru, you know thats pure B.S.

I repeat, if he wanted to fight for the REAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Not some belt that calls him a champion, but the REAL, LINEAR CHAMPIONSHIP.

[Relentless]

and you would have backed his choice right?

[kg0208]

and you would have backed his choice right?
It's this simple man. Either get rid of all the titles and don't care about them, or don't be upset when a fighter goes after the title, no matter who holds it.

We cannot have it both ways. You know how many times PBF gets blasted for not being the REAL champion at 140? If he wanted the 147 title, he would have to fight Baldomir or Gatti depending on who won.

Fans are getting too picky.

[Ramshall1]

You honestly think that a rematch between Floyd and Gatti would've materialized if Gatti would've beat Baldo? Cmon Guru, you know thats pure B.S. Floyd went looking for a fight with Spinks, and Mosley prior to fighting Baldo. So was that WW linear title REALLY that important to Floyd? Floyd persued a fight with everyone EXCEPT with the only guy who was calling him out and willing to face him. Doesnt that raise questions?

you make too much sense for these Fraud Groupies to ever understand.

[Ramshall1]

2 words....................

SPARRING PARTNER.

PBF doesnt fight sparring partners, or GBP puppets.

Thanks.

you hate DLH so much that you hate Shane. . . thats some serious blind hatred buddy.

[Pimp C]

2 words....................

SPARRING PARTNER.

PBF doesnt fight sparring partners, or GBP puppets.

Thanks.
:lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl

[TroubleLurks]

2 words....................

SPARRING PARTNER.

PBF doesnt fight sparring partners, or GBP puppets.

Thanks.Running out of material I see. It might have been funny if you didn't quote something PBF already said word for word. Nice try bit hack.:patsch

[igotJUIC3]

he ALREADy tried to fight SSM....neither is dodging anyone....both have or had their reasons....i think it will happen.

[igotJUIC3]

What? Mosley is the number 1 contender in the WW division. Does he not deserve the title shot?

your right...im talking of others who start bringing up Margo, Cotto, and Hatton.....they desrve nothing but to fight each other.

[Relentless]

2 words....................

SPARRING PARTNER.

PBF doesnt fight sparring partners, or GBP puppets.

Thanks.

why do you hate mosley, you do know he isn't related to oscar right?

or are you just insecure that mosley would have ko'd your boy titty trinidud if they fought?

[Ramshall1]

your right...im talking of others who start bringing up Margo, Cotto, and Hatton.....they desrve nothing but to fight each other.

but Bruseles and Mitchel deserved the fight? :roll:

[igotJUIC3]

but Bruseles and Mitchel deserved the fight? :roll:

No...but neither do these two....so whats your point?

[Ramshall1]

No...but neither do these two....so whats your point?

maybe Margarito deserved it more than Brusels and Mitchel . . its not that hard to figure out. :patsch

[igotJUIC3]

maybe Margarito deserved it more than Brusels and Mitchel . . its not that hard to figure out. :patsch

why?????? they are all BUMS!:patsch

[Boricua - TLH]

why?????? they are all BUMS!:patsch

Well, if Mayweather fought those other bums, why not fight these bums that would bring much more ca-ching $$$ to the table than those excuses for boxers??

[Boricua - TLH]

Mayweather is just a YELLOW "boxer"... He don't deserve ATG mention... He ain't P4P best as of today... He's a great boxer, but to be an ATG you have to beat the best out there in your time, in your class. That's the only way to separate yourself from the rest. He has certainly not done so.

[champ007]

Cotto is a good fighter,but at this stage he ain't ready for mayweather. Mosley would beat Mayweather with no problem. not saying ko but wide UD.

[mancat]

Mosely wouldn't last 12 rounds with Cotto. No WW boxer at 147 will. He pressures accurately, with a consistent gameplan which he executes to perfection. He implodes his opponents... Hey that could be a good nickname for him. Miguel "M-plosive" Cotto...

I'm sure that if Mosely Camp makes an offer to fight Cotto, his camp will acept, unlike that Mayweather fellow. However, if Mosely-Cotto fight occurs, look to see Mosely retired afterwards... Mayweather will truly retire after he fights Cotto as well... He'll be hurting forever...
Urkal lasted 12 rounds with Cotto at 147 and Malinagi lasted 12 rounds at 140. Why wouldn't Mosely or Mayweather?

[Relentless]

i dont blame him for fighting judah, i thought judah had a chance to beat him.