Kessler afraid of Miranda??

[venomus_p4p]

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[kk17]

Kessler isn't afraid
Miranda isn't a big name a Supermiddleweight at the moment
Kessler needs a top opponent like Taylor, Wright , Bute or Pavlik and not Miranda

Miranda should face a top 10 at supermiddleweight first
Miranda is a good fighter but his press releases are :nut

[jecxbox]

Again I don't care if Miranda gets beat up, I just wanna see him fight anyone because he is fun to watch. Watching him fight is like russian roulette You just wanna see if that sledge hammer is gonna land. And I think this fight stylistically would be an all out war. Why wouldn't anyone want to see this? I don't get it, I mean I understand peoples dislike of Miranda's technical flaws and maybe his loud mouth but personally I think Loud mouth power punchers are GREAT for boxing, so I sit here reading what people say in regards to this possible fight like......"wtf?"

[RafaelGonzal]

this is whats wrong with KESSLER if he had any real confidence in his ability why would he not take this fight? Kessler is disappointing.

[Pantera2000]

There is already a thread about 12 pages long about this.....

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[kk17]

I just wanna see him fight anyone because he is fun to watch.

agree Miranda is fun to watch but i prefer Kessler - Bute,
Kessler - Pavlik or Kessler - Taylor before Kessler - Miranda

[Bodysnatcher]

Kessler should take the fight because HBO loves Miranda and Kessler could use that network's enthusiasm, but considering that up until a few months ago Kessler was the WBC and WBA super middleweight champion, I don't blame him if he wants to set his sights a little higher than a SMW newcomer who got beat by Abraham and stopped by Pavlik at MW.

[Smazz20]

this is whats wrong with KESSLER if he had any real confidence in his ability why would he not take this fight? Kessler is disappointing.


He hasn't not taken the fight yet. Give him time. Apparently he's in negotiations with Taylor or Wink anyway. A fight/win over either of them does far more for his career than Miranda.

[Florida boy]

this is whats wrong with KESSLER if he had any real confidence in his ability why would he not take this fight? Kessler is disappointing.
your right, cuz fighting the top super middle in the world in his last fight showed what a coward he is.:oops:

[jecxbox]

There is already a thread about 12 pages long about this.....

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:rofl

[billyconn]

your right, cuz fighting the top super middle in the world in his last fight showed what a coward he is.:oops:

you have a point there....

[Pantera2000]

your right, cuz fighting the top super middle in the world in his last fight showed what a coward he is.:oops:

It takes a lot more courage to step in the ring with a guy that hits like a truck then a man that just slaps you around. :yep

[PH|LLA]

until we see what the offer was then really its no comment. I would say Miranda deserve no more than 25-30% of the pot against Kessler, maybe even less.

KEssler made about 4 million in his last fight.

[fitzgeraldz]

If Kessler is scared he shouldn't take that fight, because he's already lost before the fight even happens.

There are other fighters out there besides Miranda to fight ...

[Bodysnatcher]

It takes a lot more courage to step in the ring with a guy that hits like a truck then a man that just slaps you around. :yep

:patsch

[younghov2k4]

i believe Kessler is looking for an easier fight.

i could be wrong but him beating Miranda would be a huge win. we'll find out the truth when they pick his next opponent.

[splatter69]

this is whats wrong with KESSLER if he had any real confidence in his ability why would he not take this fight? Kessler is disappointing.

Ahhh, he is just stepping up and wants the consensus # 1 in the division just like that? ....Prove himself he must....yesssss ( in my YODA voice... ).

[tays001]

Again I don't care if Miranda gets beat up, I just wanna see him fight anyone because he is fun to watch. Watching him fight is like russian roulette You just wanna see if that sledge hammer is gonna land. And I think this fight stylistically would be an all out war. Why wouldn't anyone want to see this? I don't get it, I mean I understand peoples dislike of Miranda's technical flaws and maybe his loud mouth but personally I think Loud mouth power punchers are GREAT for boxing, so I sit here reading what people say in regards to this possible fight like......"wtf?"

no problem with the fight happening but to say he is afraid of miranda.?:scaredas:

mrianda needs to fight top names at 168 b4 calling people out

[LeadLeftHook]

Kessler is highly overrated. Miranda would knock him out.

[psychopath]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Afraid ??? After beating Henry Porras and David Banks Kesller is afraid of the guy? :roll:

If the Viking can go to Whales to fight the guy who has been a SMW title holder since 1997 . . . how could he be afraid to fight a guy who has only 2 fights at SMW?

Does that make sense to you people? :think

That's simple analogy . . . dammit.

[Smazz20]

I BELIEVE YOUR RIGHT :yep

Don't be a silly boy:hi:

[psychopath]

YOU GUY's ARE SO STUPID ON THIS SITE!!!!!!! Miranda is a good fighter and when did Kessler become a GREAT?????? He aint no better then Miranda so stop actin like Kessler's a *GOD* DUMB ASSES

Hey FUCK YOU . . . Boii! If we are so stupid on this site . . . then better get the fuck out of here and find another site.

Who's saying that Kesller is God? Did you read all the posts?

[Marnoff]

I don't see why Kessler would be "afraid". There are better fights for Kessler.

[Hawks28]

mrianda needs to fight top names at 168 b4 calling people out

agreed. and until then, Miranda should just shut the fuck up for a change.

[psychopath]

agreed. and until then, Miranda should just shut the fuck up for a change.

I'm praying that Kessler takes on this guy and makes him look like a lost monkey as Pavlik did. :lol:

The big mouth mofo just doesn't learn. After fighting 2 tomato cans at SMW he thinks he fucki'n own the division already and he deserve all the big fights.

Jesus! :-(

[Hawks28]

I'm praying that Kessler takes on this guy and makes him look like a lost monkey as Pavlik did. :lol:

The big mouth mofo just doesn't learn. After fighting 2 tomato cans at SMW he thinks he fucki'n own the division already and he deserve all the big fights.

Jesus! :-(

yeah, I would love to see him get beat again, whether its Kessler, who easily beats him, or somebody else. The guy beats David Banks, and now he thinks he is the guy calling the shots in the division.

[billyconn]

I BELIEVE YOUR RIGHT :yep

Miranda better make the most of super middle before KP steps up cause it's :bbb :tired all over again.....

[Pantera2000]

^^it might be a different story at smw. I think kelly whooped that ass, dont get me wrong, but every dog has its day, and i never seen miranda that winded in the 3rd round in the first fight. Something was definitely wrong with him. Not to take anything away from pavlik, of course.

But Kessler isnt a stupid person, he knows he sucks.

:happy Exactly. Pavlik would get whoooped at 168lbs.
A healthy Miranda KO's the chump.

[Executioner]

:happy Exactly. Pavlik would get whoooped at 168lbs.
A healthy Miranda KO's the chump.

keep dreaming pal..

and extra 8 pounds doesn't suddenly give you the ability to fight better off the back foot.

and shouldn't you be glad pavlik is having a lot of success? it looks better for miranda when pavlik wins.

[billyconn]

^^it might be a different story at smw. I think kelly whooped that ass, dont get me wrong, but every dog has its day, and i never seen miranda that winded in the 3rd round in the first fight. Something was definitely wrong with him. Not to take anything away from pavlik, of course.

But Kessler isnt a stupid person, he knows he sucks.

In the first round he hit Pavlik with three right hooks in a row, he cracked him.....and Pavlik was like, "what else you got?"

Of course it could be a different story, but I like Pav's chances at 168 against anyone. Miranda is a very good and game fighter. I respect his gameness.

[Pantera2000]

keep dreaming pal..

and extra 8 pounds doesn't suddenly give you the ability to fight better off the back foot.

and shouldn't you be glad pavlik is having a lot of success? it looks better for miranda when pavlik wins.

Sure. Hope he wins till he moves up and Miranda gets his revenge.
8lbs is the world!

I would like you to get down to the leanest weight you could possibly imagine getting down to. Yea, like if you weigh 190lbs and think you are pretty good shape then get down to 154lbs. Then, when you are there and cant do ANYMORE, I will tell you to lose 5 more pounds by not eating for 3 days.

That is where Miranda was at 165lbs. He had nothing else to lose. 168lbs aint gonna be easy for him, but at least it is realistic.

A man who walks around at 200+lbs and is still pretty lean has no business fighting at 160.

[billyconn]

:happy Exactly. Pavlik would get whoooped at 168lbs.
A healthy Miranda KO's the chump.

yea that's it.....

Miranda probably weighed 175-180 when Pav did this to him......... :tired

keep telling yourself it was 8 pounds of water (1 gallon) the day before and not Pavlik busting him up......:rofl

[Executioner]

Sure. Hope he wins till he moves up and Miranda gets his revenge.
8lbs is the world!

I would like you to get down to the leanest weight you could possibly imagine getting down to. Yea, like if you weigh 190lbs and think you are pretty good shape then get down to 154lbs. Then, when you are there and cant do ANYMORE, I will tell you to lose 5 more pounds by not eating for 3 days.

That is where Miranda was at 165lbs. He had nothing else to lose. 168lbs aint gonna be easy for him, but at least it is realistic.

A man who walks around at 200+lbs and is still pretty lean has no business fighting at 160lbs.

I know how hard it is..but people seem to forget that he also had trouble making weight with Arthur Abraham..when he's winning, he's not weight drained..but he gets Ko'd and is.

[Executioner]

he also had 24 hours to rehydrate..these aren't same day weigh ins anymore

[Pantera2000]

I know how hard it is..but people seem to forget that he also had trouble making weight with Arthur Abraham..when he's winning, he's not weight drained..but he gets Ko'd and is.

That was a little different. He had trouble, but was able to get the weight off more normally. He was able to eat the day before the weight in. That should have been his last fight at 160lbs. But HBO took him in and showed him the light to JT. He thought he could do it for another year. He was wrong.

[billyconn]

he also had 24 hours to rehydrate..these aren't same day weigh ins anymore

exactly.....Miranda weighed probably 175-180 pounds when Pavlik TKO'd him.....

[billyconn]

That was a little different. He had trouble, but was able to get the weight off more normally. He was able to eat the day before the weight in. That should have been his last fight at 160lbs. But HBO took him in and showed him the light to JT. He thought he could do it for another year. He was wrong.

He thought he could beat Pav and he was wrong:rofl

[Pantera2000]

he also had 24 hours to rehydrate..these aren't same day weigh ins anymore

You ever try to rehydrate when you are feeling like shit? It is not that easy.

Miranda weighed in at 160lbs for Pavlik and fought at 174lbs.
He weighed in for Banks at 170lbs and fought at 192lbs.

A healthy, undrained person has a much much easier time getting back to a healthy fighting weight.

[billyconn]

I know how hard it is..but people seem to forget that he also had trouble making weight with Arthur Abraham..when he's winning, he's not weight drained..but he gets Ko'd and is.

good point.....

how did he knock out all those guys at 160 being so weight drained....:lol: it was only a problem when he got beat once by AA and beat down by Pavlik.....


JT never made excuses like that......Miranda was the 4th best middleweight behind.....Pav, JT and AA.....he's heavy handed for sure but you'd think the guy never lost at middleweight....:patsch

[billyconn]

You ever try to rehydrate when you are feeling like shit? It is not that easy.

Miranda weighed in at 160lbs for Pavlik and fought at 174lbs.
He weighed in for Banks at 170lbs and fought at 192lbs.

A healthy, undrained person has a much much easier time getting back to a healthy fighting weight.


he should never lose another match since that's the only reason he's lost so far....

[Secern]

Kessler should take the fight because HBO loves Miranda and Kessler could use that network's enthusiasm, but considering that up until a few months ago Kessler was the WBC and WBA super middleweight champion, I don't blame him if he wants to set his sights a little higher than a SMW newcomer who got beat by Abraham and stopped by Pavlik at MW.

I agree totally.

Kessler said in a recent interview that if he could pick any opponent for his next fight he would choose Pavlik. If he is not afraid of Pavlik he is not afraid of Miranda.

[TomaTos]

Kessler 120-108 Miranda, or late TKO...

Remember Kessler-Andrade ? Same thing..., but Kessler is better now because of the Calzaghe fight.

[booradley]

In the Miranda fight Pavlik looked like he thought he was Rocky Balboa, and he ate Miranda's best shots like a 5 year old eatin' skittles! He never really clowned Miranda or anything, but his whole attitiude and demeanor was; "Bring it on mutha-fucka!" So now Kessler is afraid of Miranda, but not Pavlik -- :patsch WTF:patsch Kessler has bigger fish to fry than little eddy!

Boo