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Seamus
03-06-2008, 11:42 PM
In the squared circle, who were the greatest drinkers to be of championship calibre?
I will start the discussion with John L. because twice he drank himself into a coma DURING his championship reign. I will add Kid McCoy because his many nefarious undertakings- even murder- whilst sodden with whisky. And lastly, I will submit Dan Donnely, died a drunkard saloon keep at 32, but whose epitaph read "Overpowered by punch, but not by fist. He died an unbeaten pugilist."
Now it is us to you. React.
Russell
03-07-2008, 12:05 AM
Gugh, stole my first choice from me. McCoy. Used to more or less live in pubs from what I've heard.
joe33
03-07-2008, 12:18 AM
Fuck i bet the irish boys win this one pretty easily hehe(i aint taking the piss im of irish parents myself)
The gorgeous gael jack doyle should be up there to,heres snip of info on him
"In July 1933, at the age of 19 he missed out on the British Heavyweight title to Jack Peterson. Witnesses claim that he had done most of his warming up in a pub not far from the bout. Within the opening seconds he knew he was in trouble and decided to take the easy way out. He was disqualified for repeatedly punching low."
"Around this time Jack fought his last professional fight, against a journeyman called Chris Cole in front of 23,000 in Dublin's Dalymount Park. Arriving late for the bout after a stop at The Clarence Hotel for refreshments, the inebriated Doyle went down in the first. Movita packed up and moved back to Hollywood where she married Marlon Brando."
Guy like most died broke,but had some life,married a famous hollywood movie star,was a boxer then lost it all,he lived it to the full for sure
SteveO
03-07-2008, 12:23 AM
Roberto Duran had a reputation for heavy drinking. I heard Sonny Liston drank quite a bit, too.
Seamus
03-07-2008, 01:06 AM
Mike Tyson.
janitor
03-07-2008, 04:48 AM
Young Griffo deserves a mention.
Mickey Walker also.
ThePlugInBabies
03-07-2008, 07:31 AM
Larry Merchant
:rofl
tony galento could drink with the best of them.
bladerunner
03-07-2008, 08:02 AM
Benny Lynch
Stanley Ketchell
Raging B(_)LL
03-07-2008, 11:34 AM
Ruben Olivares` drinking prowess was legendary so I hear.
Jimbo
03-07-2008, 11:59 AM
Harry Greb was well known for being a big drinker.
Of current boxers, probably Ricky Hatton.
Senya13
03-07-2008, 12:02 PM
And lastly, I will submit Dan Donnely, died a drunkard saloon keep at 32, but whose epitaph read "Overpowered by punch, but not by fist. He died an unbeaten pugilist."
I have two copies of Myler's book, the tribune on his memorial reads completely different. It was one of suggested versions, which was rejected, written by Professor Wilson.
...
He died at last, for 47
Tumblers of Punch he drank one even;
O'erthrown by Punch,
Unharmed by fist,
He died undefeated pugilist;
...
It is also unlikely that Donnelly actually owned any of those taverns
Lobotomy
03-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Gene Tunney was given brandy during his loss to Greb. Sullivan had a shot of whiskey during his win over Kilrain. George Siler slipped out of the ring to sip whiskey between rounds of Jeffries/Sharkey II. Hey, anybody who actually gets tanked inside the squared circle deserves mention in my book!
Raging B(_)LL
03-07-2008, 01:54 PM
Bantam great Manuel Ortiz also deserves a mention here. He was a chronic alcoholic for most of his career and this cost him a few fights he should have won, he died of scirroshis (no idea how to write that word) of the liver at age 54 due to his drinking.
janitor
03-07-2008, 02:02 PM
Gene Tunney was given brandy during his loss to Greb. Sullivan had a shot of whiskey during his win over Kilrain. George Siler slipped out of the ring to sip whiskey between rounds of Jeffries/Sharkey II. Hey, anybody who actually gets tanked inside the squared circle deserves mention in my book!
Jake LaMotta drank a botle of cognac before the St Valantines day masacre.
Senya13
03-08-2008, 01:21 AM
The brilliant Dutch Sam was a heavy drinker, his training consisted of gin-drinking a lot of time, although that didn't prevent him beating everyone he faced, even much heavier good men. But when he desided to make a come back, when into his forties, and didn't train at all, but drank a lot, it costed him his unbeaten record. That made it even worse, as he began to drink even more and died about a year later. His conqueror didn't live much longer either, and died of drinking three months later.
Seamus
03-08-2008, 05:18 AM
I have two copies of Myler's book, the tribune on his memorial reads completely different. It was one of suggested versions, which was rejected, written by Professor Wilson.
...
He died at last, for 47
Tumblers of Punch he drank one even;
O'erthrown by Punch,
Unharmed by fist,
He died undefeated pugilist;
...
It is also unlikely that Donnelly actually owned any of those taverns
Thanks for the elaboration. I didn't have my original source on his quote. His arm is touring the world, apparently.
bxrfan
03-08-2008, 12:17 PM
Lew Jenki8ns
TBooze
03-08-2008, 01:24 PM
Rubin Carter had a huge drink problem.
Bummy Davis
03-08-2008, 01:26 PM
John L.Sullivan, Cooney (drink & Coke) Duran(Coke and Drink) Ruben Olivares (Corona) Hatton likes his Guiness, Holmes liked Beer,Morrison,Mickey Walker, Kid MCCOY,JERRY AND MIKE QUARRY,tEX COBB, IRAN BARKLEY
mcvey
03-08-2008, 02:24 PM
Jake LaMotta drank a botle of cognac before the St Valantines day masacre.
Was he one of the machine gunners?
mcvey
03-08-2008, 02:28 PM
In the squared circle, who were the greatest drinkers to be of championship calibre?
I will start the discussion with John L. because twice he drank himself into a coma DURING his championship reign. I will add Kid McCoy because his many nefarious undertakings- even murder- whilst sodden with whisky. And lastly, I will submit Dan Donnely, died a drunkard saloon keep at 32, but whose epitaph read "Overpowered by punch, but not by fist. He died an unbeaten pugilist."
Now it is us to you. React.
I read that Tunney and Walker both ended up as alcoholics,as did Lynch.Scott Harrison appears to have a problem also.Jean Pierre Koopmans is reputed to have drunk Champagne before and between rounds of his "challenge"to Ali.
mcvey
03-08-2008, 02:29 PM
In the squared circle, who were the greatest drinkers to be of championship calibre?
I will start the discussion with John L. because twice he drank himself into a coma DURING his championship reign. I will add Kid McCoy because his many nefarious undertakings- even murder- whilst sodden with whisky. And lastly, I will submit Dan Donnely, died a drunkard saloon keep at 32, but whose epitaph read "Overpowered by punch, but not by fist. He died an unbeaten pugilist."
Now it is us to you. React.
Peter Jackson must be in here ,sadly ,see my thread.
mcvey
03-08-2008, 02:30 PM
Thought of another, Bob Fitzsimmoms was a serious drinker.
Seamus
03-08-2008, 04:06 PM
Thought of another, Bob Fitzsimmoms was a serious drinker.
Aussies are too easy. That's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Jeff Fenech, Harding, Troy Waters...
janitor
03-08-2008, 05:34 PM
I read that Tunney and Walker both ended up as alcoholics,
Two verry different stories.
Walker had a major drink problem during his boxing career. He trained for some of his heavyweight fights on whiskey and ocasionaly turned up drunk to fights.
After he retired he kicked the drink and never looked back. He just said one day "this will be my last drink", and it was.
Tunneys daughter suffered from mental illness and murdered her husband. She was institutionalised and Tunney took to the bottle hard, ultimately drinking himself to death.
janitor
03-08-2008, 06:10 PM
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03-08-2008, 06:13 PM
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SteveO
03-08-2008, 06:14 PM
I'm guessing John L. was not playing with a full deck.
"The vehicle was smashed to atoms" :good
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03-08-2008, 06:21 PM
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03-08-2008, 06:25 PM
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03-08-2008, 06:28 PM
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mattdonnellon
03-09-2008, 12:53 AM
I dont know, maybe some of ye people arn't real...i like a drink, sometimes far too much... but serious top class champions at their peak... very few me thinks?
Langford
03-09-2008, 01:03 AM
Tunneys daughter suffered from mental illness and murdered her husband. She was institutionalised and Tunney took to the bottle hard, ultimately drinking himself to death.
The story of his daughter is very tragic, but was Tunney's death really alcohol related/brought on by drinking?
He did pass away at the fairly advanced age of 81. I am sure that his daughters actions brought on a lot of misery for him, but his son did become a U.S. Senator. Sadly, I guess its easier to focus on the bad things in life.
Oscar Bonavena,George Chavalo
laxpdx
03-09-2008, 04:14 AM
It was also Tony Ayala's other big vice besides heroin; he had been doing both since age 12.
Lobotomy
03-09-2008, 07:00 PM
Jake LaMotta drank a botle of cognac before the St Valantines day massacre.Indeed he did. And Jess Willard quaffed a quart of gin the evening before Dempsey trashed him in Toledo. Of course Armstrong swilled gallons of beer to try gaining weight while in training for Barney Ross
janitor
03-09-2008, 07:23 PM
The story of his daughter is very tragic, but was Tunney's death really alcohol related/brought on by drinking?
He did pass away at the fairly advanced age of 81. I am sure that his daughters actions brought on a lot of misery for him, but his son did become a U.S. Senator. Sadly, I guess its easier to focus on the bad things in life.
I understand that the incident happened later in his life as did the resulting alchohol problems.
Bill1234
03-09-2008, 11:26 PM
Tony Galento pops into mind, drinking was pretty much his training.
Seamus
03-10-2008, 12:02 AM
Damn, Janitor, those newsclips made my day!
Thanks.
Russell
03-10-2008, 01:02 AM
Larry Holmes like to throw back some purple drank and beat his wife.
Did Holmes really hit his wife?
RoccoMarciano
03-10-2008, 02:22 AM
I think Sugar and Scotch go together nicely....
AREA 53
03-10-2008, 11:25 AM
THe Finnegan Brothers Chris and Kevin Liked a nice pint of Guiness or two..or three or...
Bill1234
03-10-2008, 08:37 PM
Did Holmes really hit his wife?
No, but he did, and still does, like his drinks.:beer
Bill1234
03-10-2008, 09:08 PM
lol, i was just making that up to piss off bill. But it turns larry is a rampaging alcoholic.
I know you were good old buddy old pal.
:finger
RafaelGonzal
03-11-2008, 09:38 PM
Lew Jenkins
Young Griffo
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