View Full Version : Haye was lying about the weight issues
According to his trainer.
Probably got more money out of ****** because of this. :rofl
196osh
03-07-2008, 02:31 PM
:rofl, that will fuck Fwank right off.
Good times, :yep
He wasn't. He has been struggling to make the limit for years now. Thankfully, he stayed in shape after the Mormeck bout so getting to the limit this time wasn't as much of a problem. It easily could have been though. I'm sure Haye is somewhat drained tonight.
MasterCalzaghe
03-07-2008, 02:34 PM
I read this too, his trainer said the whole "we can't make weight" was a ploy to ensure Enzo signed the fight thinking Haye would be weight drained!
Only *if* Haye loses and I hear the weight drained argument I swear I'll go pompei!!!!! :!:
196osh
03-07-2008, 02:34 PM
He wasn't. He has been struggling to make the limit for years now. Thankfully, he stayed in shape after the Mormeck bout so getting to the limit this time wasn't as much of a problem. It easily could have been though. I'm sure Haye is somewhat drained tonight.
I dont think it sounded like he struggled to make weight at all. Bunce said he was 195 with his cloths on earlier.
rusticraver
03-07-2008, 02:35 PM
Mindgames, getting ****** back a bit. he did look ealthier than mormeck
BigReg
03-07-2008, 02:41 PM
Since he has no problem making weight, he should have no problem fighting Cunningham for a chance to be a super unified champ.
Cobbler
03-07-2008, 02:41 PM
I dont think it sounded like he struggled to make weight at all. Bunce said he was 195 with his cloths on earlier.
The best policy is to simply ignore any statements that start with the words 'Bunce said'.
196osh
03-07-2008, 02:42 PM
The best policy is to simply ignore any statements that start with the words 'Bunce said'.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Cobbler
03-07-2008, 02:44 PM
Since he has no problem making weight, he should have no problem fighting Cunningham for a chance to be a super unified champ.
No he's ducking the mighty Cunningham to fight Klitschko, remember :roll:
Cunningham's literally tens of fans will have to keep on bleating.
greengloves
03-07-2008, 02:52 PM
Since he has no problem making weight, he should have no problem fighting Cunningham for a chance to be a super unified champ.
man,get to fuck with your shitty agenda,if haye cracks enzo hes got a much more marketable and challenging division to go to!
BigReg
03-07-2008, 02:54 PM
man,get to fuck with your shitty agenda,if haye cracks enzo hes got a much more marketable and challenging division to go to!
Wouldn't becoming the second ever super unified champ make him more marketable?:roll:
Why would he fight Cunningham?
Everybody wants to see him in the heavyweight division.
Cobbler
03-07-2008, 02:59 PM
Wouldn't becoming the second ever super unified champ make him more marketable?:roll:
No it wouldn't.
Cunningham brings literally nothing to the table.
Cobbler
03-07-2008, 02:59 PM
Why would he fight Cunningham?
Everybody wants to see him in the heavyweight division.
Everyone except BigReg, to be strictly accurate.
Bodysnatcher
03-07-2008, 02:59 PM
Wouldn't becoming the second ever super unified champ make him more marketable?:roll:
It's not going to happen.
But Enzo has a decent chance and I'm sure he'd fight Cunningham.
Actually, even if he loses he'll probably end up fighting Cunningham at some point.
If USS wants Haye so bad I suppose he could always move up to heavyweight.
rydersonthestorm
03-07-2008, 03:00 PM
He is already the champ at crusierweight enzo and cunningham can have there trinkets.
BigReg
03-07-2008, 03:00 PM
No it wouldn't.
Cunningham brings literally nothing to the table.
I guess he'd rather beat up old men and collect WBO titles.
greengloves
03-07-2008, 03:03 PM
I guess he'd rather beat up old men and collect WBO titles.
or fight a detroit nobody USS fucking what,who is he,whats he done,he aint got nothing to hold against haye,haye will move up to fight for the HW championship of the world eventually,this is a far cry from fighting the USS cunningham!
196osh
03-07-2008, 03:03 PM
I guess he'd rather beat up old men and collect WBO titles.
:rofl.
WBC and WBA champion old men. :yep
rydersonthestorm
03-07-2008, 03:03 PM
I guess he'd rather beat up old men and collect WBO titles.
:roll:
jameswilson
03-07-2008, 03:06 PM
Hahaha.
Cobbler can I just thank you for your comments towards Bigreg, Im in stitches reading them.
BigReg is about as knowledgable as horse turd
Isn't this the cumbucket that picked D-Hopkins to beat Witter, based on him being from Philly?
What sort of bullshit logic is that.
Fuck him.
Cobbler
03-07-2008, 03:07 PM
I guess he'd rather beat up old men and collect WBO titles.
That's slightly confusing. I don't think Maccarinelli's WBO title is the main reason for the match up. And Cunningham is four years older than Enzo :?
BigReg
03-07-2008, 03:09 PM
That's slightly confusing. I don't think Maccarinelli's WBO title is the main reason for the match up. And Cunningham is four years older than Enzo :?
Jesus Christ, do I have to spell out everything for you people. The old men comment was in reference to Mormeck, the WBO comment was in reference to Macca.
BigReg
03-07-2008, 03:09 PM
or fight a detroit nobody USS fucking what,who is he,whats he done,he aint got nothing to hold against haye,haye will move up to fight for the HW championship of the world eventually,this is a far cry from fighting the USS cunningham!
Cunningham is from Philly, not Detroit.
jameswilson
03-07-2008, 03:09 PM
It's not going to happen.
But Enzo has a decent chance and I'm sure he'd fight Cunningham.
Actually, even if he loses he'll probably end up fighting Cunningham at some point.
If USS wants Haye so bad I suppose he could always move up to heavyweight.
Nah Bigreg has informed us that Cunningham walks around at 195, and then after a grueling pain staking 6-8 weeks of training loses all of 2lbs to take the scales at 193.
I mean it doesnt bare thinking about the type of intense training that Cunningham goes through according to Bigreg who incidentally questioned my knowledge on weight loss and excercise (with my degree in Sports science I guess he has a point) as Bigreg himself is ex heavyweight champion of the World, a qualified Doctor an ex Ballet dancer and of course (most notably) USS Cunningham's best friend.
BigReg
03-07-2008, 03:11 PM
BigReg is about as knowledgable as horse turd
Isn't this the cumbucket that picked D-Hopkins to beat Witter, based on him being from Philly?
What sort of bullshit logic is that.
Fuck him.
I clearly admitted in that thread that I didn't think Hopkins would beat Witter. I don't even know why I'm even responding to you. You have the intellect of a 3rd grader.
jameswilson
03-07-2008, 03:13 PM
I clearly admitted in that thread that I didn't think Hopkins would beat Witter. I don't even know why I'm even responding to you. You have the intellect of a 3rd grader.
Which I believe makes him Einstein compare to you.
196osh
03-07-2008, 03:17 PM
Cunningham is from Philly, not Detroit.
Well at least we know why you love him so much now Reg, :good
BigReg
03-07-2008, 03:22 PM
Nah Bigreg has informed us that Cunningham walks around at 195, and then after a grueling pain staking 6-8 weeks of training loses all of 2lbs to take the scales at 193.
I mean it doesnt bare thinking about the type of intense training that Cunningham goes through according to Bigreg who incidentally questioned my knowledge on weight loss and excercise (with my degree in Sports science I guess he has a point) as Bigreg himself is ex heavyweight champion of the World, a qualified Doctor an ex Ballet dancer and of course (most notably) USS Cunningham's best friend.
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BigReg
03-07-2008, 03:23 PM
Which I believe makes him Einstein compare to you.
You mean "compared to you".
Cobbler
03-07-2008, 03:23 PM
Cunningham is from Philly
Shocked, shocked I tell ya.
jameswilson
03-07-2008, 03:26 PM
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Fighters talk cap about their weight all the time.
Enzo Maccrinelli said he walks around at 196, and yet he just weighed in at 197.
Seriously it is beyond me how you can think that someone only loses 2lbs after a gruelling training regime. There are hundreds of fighters who keep themselves in shape between fights, and still lose 15lbs from their 'walking around weight.'
Seriously if this guy wasn't from Philly you wouldn't be banging on about him.
Seriously if this guy wasn't from Philly you wouldn't be banging on about him.
Don't mention Cunningham and banging to BigReg, it brings up his dream...
BigReg
03-07-2008, 03:36 PM
Fighters talk cap about their weight all the time.
Enzo Maccrinelli said he walks around at 196, and yet he just weighed in at 197.
Seriously it is beyond me how you can think that someone only loses 2lbs after a gruelling training regime. There are hundreds of fighters who keep themselves in shape between fights, and still lose 15lbs from their 'walking around weight.'
Seriously if this guy wasn't from Philly you wouldn't be banging on about him.
Floyd Mayweather has never weighed over 150 lbs. in his life, yet he fights at 147. Andre Ward also fights at around his walk around weight. Why is this so hard for you to believe? I would think with your degree in Sports Medicine, you would be able to grasp this concept.:roll:
jameswilson
03-07-2008, 03:42 PM
Floyd Mayweather has never weighed over 150 lbs. in his life, yet he fights at 147. Andre Ward also fights at around his walk around weight. Why is this so hard for you to believe? I would think with your degree in Sports Medicine, you would be able to grasp this concept.:roll:
I aint finding it hard to believe he weighs in at what he does, Im finding it hard to believe he loses 2lbs of weight from the time he starts his training camp for a big fight, to when he weighs in, which is what your saying.
BigReg
03-07-2008, 03:54 PM
I aint finding it hard to believe he weighs in at what he does, Im finding it hard to believe he loses 2lbs of weight from the time he starts his training camp for a big fight, to when he weighs in, which is what your saying.
No, it's what he said. The same is true for Mayweather. The guy walks around at about 148 and fights at 147. Your body is like a thermastat in regards to weight. There's a set weight that your body wants you at. If you go above it, your metabolism speeds up get you back down to your normal weight. If you go below it, your metabolism slows down. Drastic changes have to be made to your diet and/or exercise routine to change this. So, if Cunninham works out pretty hard all the time(not out of the question considering his Naval background) than it's not out of the question that he would only lose a few pounds during training, especially if he increases his caloric intake. But what do I know, I don't have a degree in sports medicine.
jameswilson
03-07-2008, 04:20 PM
No, it's what he said. The same is true for Mayweather. The guy walks around at about 148 and fights at 147. Your body is like a thermastat in regards to weight. There's a set weight that your body wants you at. If you go above it, your metabolism speeds up get you back down to your normal weight. If you go below it, your metabolism slows down. Drastic changes have to be made to your diet and/or exercise routine to change this. So, if Cunninham works out pretty hard all the time(not out of the question considering his Naval background) than it's not out of the question that he would only lose a few pounds during training, especially if he increases his caloric intake. But what do I know, I don't have a degree in sports medicine.
People dont train at 100% all the time, it aint possible. While he will keep himself in good shape between a fight, suddenly going into a big training camp will mean he will lose a significant amount of weight.
Im of the belief that there will be a significant difference between Cunningham's training intensity, as well as his diet, when he is in camp (I dunno how long his camps are before a big fight) and when he doesnt have a fight set (now for example.)
That is why I wont believe he loses only 2lbs after a hard training camp.
Like I say your using his quotes which is fair enough, but then Iv heard a load of boxers talk a lot of yang about their weight.
Also Mayweather weighed in at 150 for De La Hoya, but I thought I remembered hearing in commentary that he was slightly heavier come the fight night, despite weighing in way inside the limit.
ThePlugInBabies
03-07-2008, 04:28 PM
I read this too, his trainer said the whole "we can't make weight" was a ploy to ensure Enzo signed the fight thinking Haye would be weight drained!
Only *if* Haye loses and I hear the weight drained argument I swear I'll go pompei!!!!! :!:
you'd suck off anything that has links to the calzaghe name.
benn tko11.
BigReg
03-07-2008, 05:53 PM
People dont train at 100% all the time, it aint possible. While he will keep himself in good shape between a fight, suddenly going into a big training camp will mean he will lose a significant amount of weight.
Im of the belief that there will be a significant difference between Cunningham's training intensity, as well as his diet, when he is in camp (I dunno how long his camps are before a big fight) and when he doesnt have a fight set (now for example.)
That is why I wont believe he loses only 2lbs after a hard training camp.
Like I say your using his quotes which is fair enough, but then Iv heard a load of boxers talk a lot of yang about their weight.
Also Mayweather weighed in at 150 for De La Hoya, but I thought I remembered hearing in commentary that he was slightly heavier come the fight night, despite weighing in way inside the limit.
Actually, after the fight he commented that he weighed 148 on fight night.
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