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Russell
03-07-2008, 04:39 PM
Seems like every other fight he had early on was against undefeated fighters.

Was he that much of a prospect?

Why is it that every tall, rangy and lanky fighter has a weak chin?

john garfield
03-07-2008, 09:24 PM
Breland brings back a vivid memory, Russell, not the dispassionate parroting of his oft-quoted amateur record, but the sheer terror his name invoked among opponents at amateur shows in New York in the mid ‘70s. Breland was flattening everyone within seconds -- not knocking’em out, leaving’em for dead.

Anyone who didn’t bail looked like a cadaver entering the ring. Think Joe Louis’s opponents in his prime.

With that as background, I had an amateur on my team, Michael De La Rue, face him at smoker in Staten Island. Michael was a human fireplug, impossible to discourage and winged left hooks from bell to bell. He fought face first, and everyone cringed at the thought of what Mark would do to him.

Mark did drop Michael in the first round with that feared right, but to everyone’s surprise, he weathered it and tore back in to Breland; and no matter how many times Mark landed flush with the right, Michael answered with hooks that made Mark give ground.

Mark got the nod, but it was close, and Michael was the only one that had gone the distance with him at that time, and the crowd showed him their appreciation.

Michael had a brief run as a pro, and engaged in some exciting TV fights.

I was pleasantly surprised to read in an interview with Breland years later, he said Michael was his toughest amateur opponent. I’m sure most shook their heads, wondering who the hell Michael was.

Russell
03-07-2008, 10:07 PM
Ahahhaa... Ahh.

Great stuff, thank you.

RoccoMarciano
03-08-2008, 12:22 AM
Breland brings back a vivid memory, Russell, not the dispassionate parroting of his oft-quoted amateur record, but the sheer terror his name invoked among opponents at amateur shows in New York in the mid ‘70s. Breland was flattening everyone within seconds -- not knocking’em out, leaving’em for dead.

Anyone who didn’t bail looked like a cadaver entering the ring. Think Joe Louis’s opponents in his prime.

With that as background, I had an amateur on my team, Michael De La Rue, face him at smoker in Staten Island. Michael was a human fireplug, impossible to discourage and winged left hooks from bell to bell. He fought face first, and everyone cringed at the thought of what Mark would do to him.

Mark did drop Michael in the first round with that feared right, but to everyone’s surprise, he weathered it and tore back in to Breland; and no matter how many times Mark landed flush with the right, Michael answered with hooks that made Mark give ground.

Mark got the nod, but it was close, and Michael was the only one that had gone the distance with him at that time, and the crowd showed him their appreciation.

Michael had a brief run as a pro, and engaged in some exciting TV fights.

I was pleasantly surprised to read in an interview with Breland years later, he said Michael was his toughest amateur opponent. I’m sure most shook their heads, wondering who the hell Michael was.

Thanks for the first-hand account, John!

As I've no doubt said before, you need to write a (the) book on boxing.

Hank
03-08-2008, 03:11 AM
Great as an amateur, not great as pro. He lacked strength, for one thing. He was average pro, and was worked into right fight to get a title bout. He was a great amateur though, 5 time Golden Gloves Champion, and more impressive, that Olympic Gold Medal.

JohnThomas1
03-09-2008, 03:43 AM
Yes, purely unbelievable amateur. His ability and record there had many many people proclaiming he would be the next Sugar Ray Robinson. I would have to think that he was the most heralded amateur of my lifetime possibly bar Teo.

Titan1
01-06-2010, 01:51 AM
And he did floor McCrory in a sparring session.

Stevie G
01-06-2010, 08:16 AM
As has been previously stated throughout the years,Breland was a brilliant amateur,and while a succesful pro should have achieved much more. Some reporter once said that Breland's best performance as a professional,was in a Pointer Sisters video. :lol:

Maxmomer
01-06-2010, 08:30 AM
No!

lefthook31
01-06-2010, 09:44 AM
Breland brings back a vivid memory, Russell, not the dispassionate parroting of his oft-quoted amateur record, but the sheer terror his name invoked among opponents at amateur shows in New York in the mid ‘70s. Breland was flattening everyone within seconds -- not knocking’em out, leaving’em for dead.

Anyone who didn’t bail looked like a cadaver entering the ring. Think Joe Louis’s opponents in his prime.

With that as background, I had an amateur on my team, Michael De La Rue, face him at smoker in Staten Island. Michael was a human fireplug, impossible to discourage and winged left hooks from bell to bell. He fought face first, and everyone cringed at the thought of what Mark would do to him.

Mark did drop Michael in the first round with that feared right, but to everyone’s surprise, he weathered it and tore back in to Breland; and no matter how many times Mark landed flush with the right, Michael answered with hooks that made Mark give ground.

Mark got the nod, but it was close, and Michael was the only one that had gone the distance with him at that time, and the crowd showed him their appreciation.

Michael had a brief run as a pro, and engaged in some exciting TV fights.

I was pleasantly surprised to read in an interview with Breland years later, he said Michael was his toughest amateur opponent. I’m sure most shook their heads, wondering who the hell Michael was.
Great stuff! :good

Hookie
01-06-2010, 10:21 AM
Seems like every other fight he had early on was against undefeated fighters.

Was he that much of a prospect?

Why is it that every tall, rangy and lanky fighter has a weak chin?

One of the best amateurs ever (he went 110-1, losing only to D. Anthony... he stopped Anthony in 3 as a pro). He won WW Gold at the '84 Olympics.

Very good pro but a bit of an underachiever.

His chin was the reason he lost in all of his losses...

LKOby11 M. Starling- he lost the WW WBA world title in this fight, it was his 1st defense.

He regained the vacant WW WBA world title (KO1 Seung-Soon Lee) and successfully defended it 4 times. Among others he beat R. Pineda (KO5) and L. Honeyghan (KO3). He lost the title to A. Davis (LKOby9).

LKOby6 J. Vaca at JMW

He was well ahead on the cards vs. Starling before the stoppage. He fought Starling again and they fought to a draw for the WBA WW world title (D12).

After the loss to Vaca he did not fight for 4 1/2 years. He came back at JMW and won 5 fights in a row, 3 by KO. His best win was a 3rd round KO over Buck Smith. I thought Breland looked decent in his comeback but after 14 months he retired again.

Flea Man
01-06-2010, 10:44 AM
Awesome post Garfield :good

The Morlocks
01-06-2010, 11:21 AM
Breland brings back a vivid memory, Russell, not the dispassionate parroting of his oft-quoted amateur record, but the sheer terror his name invoked among opponents at amateur shows in New York in the mid ‘70s. Breland was flattening everyone within seconds -- not knocking’em out, leaving’em for dead.

Anyone who didn’t bail looked like a cadaver entering the ring. Think Joe Louis’s opponents in his prime.

With that as background, I had an amateur on my team, Michael De La Rue, face him at smoker in Staten Island. Michael was a human fireplug, impossible to discourage and winged left hooks from bell to bell. He fought face first, and everyone cringed at the thought of what Mark would do to him.

Mark did drop Michael in the first round with that feared right, but to everyone’s surprise, he weathered it and tore back in to Breland; and no matter how many times Mark landed flush with the right, Michael answered with hooks that made Mark give ground.

Mark got the nod, but it was close, and Michael was the only one that had gone the distance with him at that time, and the crowd showed him their appreciation.

Michael had a brief run as a pro, and engaged in some exciting TV fights.

I was pleasantly surprised to read in an interview with Breland years later, he said Michael was his toughest amateur opponent. I’m sure most shook their heads, wondering who the hell Michael was.
didn't de la rue get ko'd by Vilamar fernandez in the arly 80's on espn:rasta

john garfield
01-06-2010, 11:39 AM
didn't de la rue get ko'd by Vilamar fernandez in the arly 80's on espn:rasta

No, TM, Michael never fought Fernandez, who, though a nifty boxer, never scaled more than 130. Michael was a full-fledged welter, who gave up too much height for his weight.

He stopped fighting in '83 when he near-died after being KO'd by Robert Adams.

lefthook31
01-06-2010, 11:53 AM
No, TM, Michael never fought Fernandez, who, though a nifty boxer, never scaled more than 130. Michael was a full-fledged welter, who gave up too much height for his weight.

He stopped fighting in '83 when he near-died after being KO'd by Robert Adams.
You said you worked with Angelo Dundee? When was that? I suppose you were down in Miami at 5th street if your an old timer?
Are you still training fighters?
I was up in Pembroke Pines with those guys in the middle 90's once the gym was demolished in South Beach.

mr. magoo
01-06-2010, 11:55 AM
I distinctly remember him being trained and manage by the Duva family during his pro years, and vaguely remember his bouts with Marlon Starling. His pounding of Lloyd Honeyghan was one of the most destructive performance that I saw to end the decade. A very good fighter from memory and one who could both box and punch, depending on what the situation called for.. His chin may have been what prevented him from reaching greater heights

GPater11093
01-06-2010, 11:57 AM
J, is that De La Rue boxer, is that the fighter ho you told me a story about having a brilliant rigth hand but wasnt too dedicated and went onto become a top business man upon retiring

john garfield
01-06-2010, 03:22 PM
You said you worked with Angelo Dundee? When was that? I suppose you were down in Miami at 5th street if your an old timer?
Are you still training fighters?
I was up in Pembroke Pines with those guys in the middle 90's once the gym was demolished in South Beach.

Trained with Angelo at the 5th St. Gym in the middle '50s, l. When my team gym in South Queens burned down in the late '70s, I trained kids at the ol' Gramercy Gym on 14th St., until work took me to L.A. in '80. Been here ever since.

Don't train kids anymore, but I haven't lost my love for the game. I'm a regular at local gyms and cards in L.A. 'n Vegas.

john garfield
01-06-2010, 03:27 PM
J, is that De La Rue boxer, is that the fighter ho you told me a story about having a brilliant rigth hand but wasnt too dedicated and went onto become a top business man upon retiring

No, that's John Nitollo, G. He's still very successful...and still has a helluva right hand.

lefthook31
01-06-2010, 03:31 PM
Trained with Angelo at the 5th St. Gym in the middle '50s, l. When my team gym in South Queens burned down in the late '70s, I trained kids at the ol' Gramercy Gym on 14th St., until work took me to L.A. in '80. Been here ever since.

Don't train kids anymore, but I haven't lost my love for the game. I'm a regular at local gyms and cards in L.A. 'n Vegas.
Wow. You wouldnt believe what the beach looks like now, you wouldnt recognize it. Great stuff.:good

GPater11093
01-06-2010, 05:15 PM
No, that's John Nitollo, G. He's still very successful...and still has a helluva right hand.

Good story that one

Flea Man
01-06-2010, 06:21 PM
JG is an incredibly facinating chap.

john garfield
01-06-2010, 07:51 PM
JG is an incredibly facinating chap.

Can't convince my wife of that, f