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floridasfinest
07-11-2007, 11:30 AM
I've been boxing for 2 months. I've sparred before, but it was light contact. Yesterday at the gym my trainer told me to gear up and said I'd be sparring. I weigh 137, the guy i sparred said he was 165-170. He asked to trainer if it was light contact and the trainer told him to "bang away."
I fought as hard as I could, but he put me down in the first and then after he put me down again in the 2nd my trainer stopped it.
When I got home my head was killing me and I kept throwing up so mom took me to the ER and we found I had a concussion.
First, how often does someone get a concussion from sparring? I was surprised, I didn't think it happened too much. This is the 3rd concussion of my life. Has anyone here had consussions? I don't mind getting a broken nose, busted lip, whatever, but when it comes to my brain I start getting a little concerned.
Second, what do you think of my trainers decision to have me spar him full contact? I know that at a certain point you have to get thrown to the wolves, but for my first time going ful contact to be against a guy 30 lbs heavier and so much more experienced with a few am fights, telling him to bang away, I was surprised. Did you guys get eased into sparring or did they just throw you in like me?
Thanks
BeGGeRs
07-11-2007, 11:48 AM
The previous concussions must have effected you or damaged you skull. I dont know anyone who has had a serious head injury during sparring tell the lad you fighting to take it easy next time..
BITCH ASS
07-11-2007, 01:09 PM
That's a bullshit gym.
That's fuckin bullshit.
Raja510
07-11-2007, 01:19 PM
Your trainer is a tool. There's no reason you should have been put in with a heavier guy who was told to "bang away". I would find another gym and trainer. As for having 3 concussions at a young age. I would seriously reconsider what your doing. Those will add up and you'll pay for it when your older.
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cross_trainer
07-11-2007, 02:17 PM
Leave the gym. It is extremely dangerous and irresponsible for your coach to put you in with a supermiddleweight going all out when you have only two months.
What was your opponent's background?
floridasfinest
07-11-2007, 02:30 PM
raja...that's what I'm concerned about. I read that once you have a few concussions it gets easier and easier to get them. I'm going to keep boxing, but if i get another one, especially doing somthing like sparring, I'm going to have to re-evaluate what I'm doing. I'm 20, boxing because I love it, I know I won't be able to make it a career, it's not worth long-term damage.
cross trainer...the weird thing is that my gym is normally very careful and safe. I'm just going to go in and sit down with my trainer, tell him I'm a little upset about what happened, and see how it goes. If he gets upset, I'm out of there, I'm not paying to be a guys punching bag.
The guy I sparred is about 19 I think, not sure how long he's been fighting, I don't think its much over a year but if you looked at us both shadow boxing or working the bag you'd immediately see that he's in a totally different class. He's had several amateur fights, don't know exactly how many though.
Thanks for the replies
Shareef
07-11-2007, 02:33 PM
Your trainer is a piece of shit he should have made the supermiddleweight go all out against you ecspecially since your only 140lbs. Unless you were a better class of fighter and were a experienced boxer not having only been doing it for such a short period of time the trainer should not have told the supermiddle to go all out. Also the guy you sparred is a chump he himself should have taken it easier cause he should know he was in control instead of beating up on you.
Johnboy2007
07-11-2007, 02:40 PM
Iv not joined a gym yet but all the advice / everything iv read says avoid trainers that do that kinda thing like the plague. Talk to him deffo. And see what he says. If you do join another gym use your own head (pardon the pun) and dont get in the ring if you think its overly dangerous. When i join the gym (this sunday ) and , if they told me to get in and the other guy to bang away id tell him where to go. Sounds like hes just using you to further his am fighter.
MrSmall
07-11-2007, 02:41 PM
Change gym. What a bum your trainer is. I bet your mum wasn't impressed!
Give yourself a couple weeks.
That sort of thing happened to me on a busy day at my gym, so the guy didn't really notice, and I toughed it out.
I had a SPLITTING headache for a good 24 hours.
And threw up straight after.
loko12345
07-11-2007, 02:44 PM
As already mentioned, your trainer is a moron.
First, if he is going to put you against a guy that much heavier than you, than he must instruct him to take it easy, and if the guy does not take it easy, then the traineer must stop it immediately.
Second, if he is going to allow "full contact" then it must be with someone of similar experience and weight than you. If the guy you are fighting has much less experience than you, then it MIGHT be ok for him to allow the other dude to go "full contact". It depends.
In any event, if you are ever in the situation again where a trainer is telling you to spar against a guy who is much bigger than you, with much more experience, at "full contact", JUST SAY NO! It is your body and brain, and it's your duty to protect it. Don't worry about what the fighter or trainer might think.
Lastly, leave that gym ASAP! Good luck!
boxing4life
07-11-2007, 03:32 PM
ya leave that gym man asap! no fucking trainer in the world will let some 170 pound dude BANG AWAY with all hes got aginst a kid who is 137 and has only been boxing for 2 months and I MEAN NO TRAINER! theres a shit load of good gym all over Florida! find another one and watch your head man I mean it, concussions are the main things that cause brain damage later on!
Johnboy2007
07-11-2007, 04:45 PM
To be honest mate if thats the attitude of the trainer then hes a danger to other too. I dont know what other people think but maybe the authorities should be told and maybe they should investigate and if hes found to be neglegent or bad trainer he shouldnt be allowed to. Next time it could be a kid who gets seriously damaged and doesnt get a second chance like youve got now
SouthPaw_Swamer
07-11-2007, 07:52 PM
i kinda had the same thing happen to me bu not as bad as all that, it was my first time i'd spared, he didn't go full steam but when he threw the punches he wasn't pulling. luckly i could move out of the way for most of them but he still got me with a few clean shots.
I know your trainer seems like an ass but he could have just been testing you, to see if you have the heart to stay in the ring. i'm sure that what my trainer was doing seeing if he should spend time traing me or not.
Talk to him and tell him you don't want to make a job out of boxing, and would just like to do a little light sparing. he should understand if he only wants to train people who want to box as a job, find a new gym
Johnboy2007
07-12-2007, 04:17 AM
i kinda had the same thing happen to me bu not as bad as all that, it was my first time i'd spared, he didn't go full steam but when he threw the punches he wasn't pulling. luckly i could move out of the way for most of them but he still got me with a few clean shots.
I know your trainer seems like an ass but he could have just been testing you, to see if you have the heart to stay in the ring. i'm sure that what my trainer was doing seeing if he should spend time traing me or not.
Talk to him and tell him you don't want to make a job out of boxing, and would just like to do a little light sparing. he should understand if he only wants to train people who want to box as a job, find a new gym
he shoulda seen he had heart before he actually got his head beat in. He had heart just by staying in there. If that was the test he shouldav said bang away and waited for his reaction and said that was just a test good lad you didnt shit your pants. Then he shoulda got on with training him not just using him as a punching bag.
IOANNIS
07-12-2007, 09:15 AM
What the fuck was your trainer thinking?
He put you in the ring with someone more experienced and heavier to spar with you full contact?
That is totally irresponsible behaviour at least and your trainer must not have a clue what he is doing.
If he adviced to have "light sparring" with your opponent and the situation got out of control that's another story!!
You should change gym at once!!
1st concussion 1 month no sparring.
2nd concussion 3 months no sparring.
3rd concussion 6 months-1 year no sparring.
At 4th concussion you should tell boxing bye bye.
I am talking about amateurs.
Pugsley
07-12-2007, 11:46 AM
What everyone else says about your trainer is right, but actually to tell you the truth, you could have died.
A subdural hematoma causes the pressure inside the cranium to rise, this is due to a severe hard hit to the outside of the skull, causing the blood vessels between the brain and the inner cranium wall to rupture and spew blood, forming a bubble of fluid which presses against your brain.
The first signs of a subdural hematoma (concussion) is vomiting and drowsiness. If the blood isn't drained by a doctor, a huge CLOT can form inside your brain, causing you to go into a coma.
It is not the same as being KO'd which is only due to shaking of the brain.
That isn't to be taken lightly. People are known to die from it.
Bazooka
07-12-2007, 01:05 PM
First, how often does someone get a concussion from sparring? I was surprised, I didn't think it happened too much. This is the 3rd concussion of my life. Has anyone here had consussions? I don't mind getting a broken nose, busted lip, whatever, but when it comes to my brain I start getting a little concerned.
Second, what do you think of my trainers decision to have me spar him full contact? I know that at a certain point you have to get thrown to the wolves, but for my first time going ful contact to be against a guy 30 lbs heavier and so much more experienced with a few am fights, telling him to bang away, I was surprised. Did you guys get eased into sparring or did they just throw you in like me?
Thanks
You should never spar anybody more than 15 pounds your weight period, what Gym did this happen at? after the 1st Knock down as a trainer I would have called it a day he allowed you to get up and get dropped again by a man clearly bigger than you, its your health so you should look out for it obviously he wont.
I didnt get eased into sparring I was always with someone on my level or a slight step above which is better cus you develope your skills that way. However the concussion could have happend in sparring prior to the knock downs you never know. what I will say is that you need to talk to your trainer and remind him your weight sometimes they dont stop to think they are caught up in making sure everybody gets some work in before they leave ie Mitts sparring etc...
no sparring for two months is the best advice I can give you, something like this has happend to me in the gym and I started sparring right away again BIG mistake as a result of it I have a Soctoma in my right eye, I have still been seeing the Dr on a regular bases to follow up on injuries that have happend three years ago, so far everything except my right eye is fine I have a damage nerve in my brain (not brain damage thank god) and my eye has a blind spot in it its hard to see Hooks comming.
anyhow please take care of yourself son, dont spar for two months allow your body time to recover dont work out for atleast a week if you go straight back into the gym that bouncing around shit wont help.
take some time off relax and go back to it but make sure you know when to say no when it comes to sparring if your 137 do not spar anybody over 150 period. and if he is over 150 lets say at 155 or so make sure he uses 18 oz gloves and you use 14s
Take care:good
Mikro
07-13-2007, 11:07 AM
I agree with what people are saying, your trainer was not serving your interests there. Definitely take a break for awhile to recover from that. Try to get as much sleep as you can. Maybe drinking lots of water would help too... i've heard you're more susceptible to brain injury when you're dehydrated... dont know how/if it factors into recovery.
Remember that concussions are serious and definitely don't count on your trainer to be looking out for your well being, so be smart about what you do.
0.5sj719
07-13-2007, 01:01 PM
That's a bullshit gym.
That's fuckin bullshit.
quoted for emphasis.
My first sparring session I got knocked around a bit, but it was quite light to me. I took a hook straight to the face but it didnt phase me. I didnt walk away with a concussion either. Your gym and trainer fucked you over, fuck that.
I'm just going to go in and sit down with my trainer, tell him I'm a little upset about what happened, and see how it goes. If he gets upset, I'm out of there, I'm not paying to be a guys punching bag.
Dont even talk to this trainer, he is an ass and you would be better off just finding a new one.
altez
07-13-2007, 09:49 PM
You shouldn't sit down with your trainer and talk to him. Just don't show up no more and find another gym.
skipdog
07-14-2007, 01:23 AM
Agreed, that shits suspect.. Everything adds up to shitty training, unless you have been talkin shit or your really talented and your trainer thought you could hang.. That sucks. Id definitely rest for a while...
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