Rhaman, McCall, Holyfield, Golota - unification this year?

[Stinky gloves]

No jokes.

Holyfield get his shot at Ibragimov very soon and win by decision.
Golota crack at Chagayev this fall and win by KO.
Vitaly lose to McCline or get injured again, so McCall pull upset over Peter.
Wlad KO Brewster but get spanked by Rahman late fall.

By the December we may see some unifications.

Say:
Golota-Holyfield
Rahman-McCall

[Stinky gloves]

Your asking for alot, when really nobody wants to see these guy's fight

Its like 50/50 this will happen.

[Stinky gloves]

We need new blood in the division, not recycled champions.

Name 2 of them

[MrSmall]

While the first 3 are vaguely feasible, I really can't see Rahman beating Waldo.

[Stinky gloves]

While the first 3 are vaguely feasible, I really can't see Rahman beating Waldo.

I would say it is 75/25 for Hloyfield and Golota to win the title.
McCall and Rahaman gets like 25/75 but in average it is 50/50 overall.

[Stinky gloves]

I can't. I said we need not we have.

So lets wait for new blood and have some nice unification in the mean time.

[Amsterdam]

Holyfield would come out the victor out of this bunch, that's what is funny.

McCall KTFO Rahman anyday of the week.

Holyfield beats the badly faded Golota.

Then McCall vs. Holyfield, Holyfield would take him by a clear UD.

[thesandman]

I would say it is 75/25 for Hloyfield and Golota to win the title.
McCall and Rahaman gets like 25/75 but in average it is 50/50 overall.

If you would give me an even money bet on the above happening - I would bet every penny I have that it wouldn't happen.

I'd say the odds of the above happening are about this:

Holyfield winning. 30%
Golota winning. 30%
McCall winning 5% (with your scenario above)
Rahman IBF champ. 5%

That gives odds of about .0225 %

You're saying 50%?????


Your maths is miles out anyway.

If you think the first thing is 75%, and the second is 25%, the odds of it happening are 75% * 25% = 18.75%. You multiply them together, not average them....

[Amsterdam]

You have 12,000 post on a boxing forum, you know and have learned about boxing during your membership, you giving Holyfield so much praise is unacceptable

So the current Evander, who defeated Oquendo close, can't equally beat a totally shot Golota, whom has improved his mentality with age maybe?:lol:

How about Rahman though? He won't even make it past the first couple of rounds with any of them if he shows up like he did vs. Sykes.

[macp]

If you would give me an even money bet on the above happening - I would bet every penny I have that it wouldn't happen.

I'd say the odds of the above happening are about this:

Holyfield winning. 30%
Golota winning. 30%
McCall winning 5% (with your scenario above)
Rahman IBF champ. 5%

That gives odds of about .0225 %

You're saying 50%?????


Your maths is miles out anyway.

If you think the first thing is 75%, and the second is 25%, the odds of it happening are 75% * 25% = 18.75%. You multiply them together, not average them....

hes right. its like finding odds of winning lottery with 49 numbers
1/49*1/48*1/47...etc.

but personally i think tua would have a better shot of defeating wlad that rahman. whats rahman gonna do, scare him with his scar? even tyson would have a better shot

[Farmboxer]

I think Vitali will stop McCall.

[Cachibatches]

Name 2 of them
Solis
Povetkin
Dimintrenko
David Haye

[Amsterdam]

Solis
Povetkin
Dimintrenko
David Haye

All of those guys would starch Rahman early at this point.:good

[madpup]

I would say it is 75/25 for Hloyfield and Golota to win the title.
McCall and Rahaman gets like 25/75 but in average it is 50/50 overall.

Maths 101
If one even has a probability of 25% and another has a probability of 75%, then the probability of both occurring is not 50%, but 25% * 75%, which equals 18.75%

[Cachibatches]

All of those guys would starch Rahman early at this point.:good
You know Amsterdam, I really think that there is more talent in the heavyweight division than most people give credit for. Its the lousy organizations, their fake ratings, the no good promoters and some cowardice from some of the fighters themselves that prevents them from fighting.

With four distinct lines and every champ taking at least one safe defense and sometimes loosing that in a neverending downward spiral, yeah, it looks pretty shitty.

But step back. We have four reasonably solid champs:

Wlad Klit
Chag
Sultan
Oleg

Four good guys on deck for shots:

Brewster
Peter
Mcal
Vit Klit

A couple of good guys in the bullpen:

Lyakovich
Holyfield (yeah, I know. But he's on a streak so I'm throwing him in).

Some good prospects:

Solis
Povetkin
Dimintrenko
David Haye
Boytsov

Some fun trial horses:

Rahmen
Toney
Moorer
Valuless
Sanders
Tua

And, as far as being contentenders go, we have finally gooten rid of:

Byrd
Ruiz
Briggs

No, its not the seventies or the nineties, but thats a better list than most eras.

they just have to fight.

[VHB]

No way Wlad would fall. Chagaev, you can expect almost anything from him, but he did have a solid gameplan in his title fight, so he´s smart. Ibragimov would lose to any fighter named in this topic. Peter is a diamond, but rather rugged one. I guess Holyfield and McCall might make it, expecially McCall since he beat a ranked contender. Rahman is done, so is Golota. I would say Holyfield is also done but the paps is a bit crazy and has had a warrior´s career.

[DamonD]

I agree Cachibatches, it's mainly the boxing politics that are keeping the most interesting fights from happening...and I think everyone is to blame for that, it's most definitely not just a handy "Don King is the devil" excuse.

The other is that we've had a lot of quick-change unsuccessful title defences...most guys have had problems making more than one. Now Valuev has fallen, Wlad's the only active belt-holder with more than 1 defence.

[Cachibatches]

I agree Cachibatches, it's mainly the boxing politics that are keeping the most interesting fights from happening...and I think everyone is to blame for that, it's most definitely not just a handy "Don King is the devil" excuse.

The other is that we've had a lot of quick-change unsuccessful title defences...most guys have had problems making more than one. Now Valuev has fallen, Wlad's the only active belt-holder with more than 1 defence.
Exactly right. It seems to be a downward spiral with guys taking defenses they think are safe and losing anyway. Then the cycle starts over again.

[diamondDave]

No jokes.

Holyfield get his shot at Ibragimov very soon and win by decision.
Golota crack at Chagayev this fall and win by KO.
Vitaly lose to McCline or get injured again, so McCall pull upset over Peter.
Wlad KO Brewster but get spanked by Rahman late fall.

By the December we may see some unifications.

Say:
Golota-Holyfield
Rahman-McCall

This is why Las Vegas makes tons of money on people trying to win on parlays!

[1-Ton]

No jokes.

Whatever.

[Tanner]

No jokes.

Holyfield get his shot at Ibragimov very soon and win by decision.
Golota crack at Chagayev this fall and win by KO.
Vitaly lose to McCline or get injured again, so McCall pull upset over Peter.
Wlad KO Brewster but get spanked by Rahman late fall.

By the December we may see some unifications.

Say:
Golota-Holyfield
Rahman-McCall


After Rahman's lame performance against Sykes, I'm sure Wlad has changed his mind about fighting him.

[Zakman]

No jokes.

Holyfield get his shot at Ibragimov very soon and win by decision.
Golota crack at Chagayev this fall and win by KO.
Vitaly lose to McCline or get injured again, so McCall pull upset over Peter.
Wlad KO Brewster but get spanked by Rahman late fall.

By the December we may see some unifications.

Say:
Golota-Holyfield
Rahman-McCall

The odds of this happening are next to nothing. maybe worse. Did you see Rahman's fight against Sykes?? If he went a round with Wlad, he'd be lucky. His glass jaw is worse than ever - SYKES rocked him!!:patsch

[Stinky gloves]

i agree about rahman. he is over...:deal

He cannot outpoint Wlad but he may knock his glass out at any time.

[IntentionalButt]

No jokes.

Holyfield get his shot at Ibragimov very soon and win by decision.
Golota crack at Chagayev this fall and win by KO.
Vitaly lose to McCline or get injured again, so McCall pull upset over Peter.
Wlad KO Brewster but get spanked by Rahman late fall.


:rofl:rofl I thought you said no jokes!

[Stinky gloves]

:rofl:rofl I thought you said no jokes!

That serious stuff man!

[bigjake]

You have 12,000 post on a boxing forum, you know and have learned about boxing during your membership, you giving Holyfield so much praise is unacceptable

the number of posts 1 leaves on here is in no way an indicator of ones knowledge of boxing.more often then not it may indicate your on the site a lot and also may be good on a keyboard

bigjake

[DamonD]

Yeah, I know some real dumbasses around this place with 6 thousand or so posts.

[Stinky gloves]

Yeah, I know some real dumbasses around this place with 6 thousand or so posts.

DamonD, Posts: 6,065 :lol::lol::lol:

[DamonD]

Exactly ;)

[Black2023]

No jokes.

Holyfield get his shot at Ibragimov very soon and win by decision.
Golota crack at Chagayev this fall and win by KO.
Vitaly lose to McCline or get injured again, so McCall pull upset over Peter.
Wlad KO Brewster but get spanked by Rahman late fall.

By the December we may see some unifications.

Say:
Golota-Holyfield
Rahman-McCall


:lol:

thats terrible