how badly would shane mosley have beaten kostya tszyu??

[Relentless]

i say a late KO:huh

[brooklyn1550]

Probably a UD, but maybe a late TKO

[unitas]

shane ko in six. tszyu has nothing shane cant handle.......

[Thread Stealer]

Mosley would win, but Tszyu would have his moments.

Mosley likes to exchange and tends to leave himself open down the middle. Tszyu was an intelligent, accurate guy with a terrific straight right hand down the middle.

It would be a good competitive fight. Ultimately I have to make Shane the favorite to win.

[teke]

I agree that Shane would win, great fight. Both would have there moments but i see Shane winning via decision possibly split.

[ChampionsForever]

MAAAAAN people are overrating SSM here!! If a shot Vargas can push Mosely and some argue could have beaten him had it gone on then why are people saying he would have wiped out Tzsyu?? I think SSM would have probably won a close decision but fuck he wouldnt have KO'd him no way :nono, if he couldnt stop or even hurt Collazo then how could he have Tzsyu?

[unitas]

MAAAAAN people are overrating SSM here!! If a shot Vargas can push Mosely and some argue could have beaten him had it gone on then why are people saying he would have wiped out Tzsyu?? I think SSM would have probably won a close decision but fuck he wouldnt have KO'd him no way :nono, if he couldnt stop or even hurt Collazo then how could he have Tzsyu?

:lol:

[bagman]

This is a weird thread, personally I would make the fight a 50-50 and I could just as easily see Tszyu KO'ing Shane as shane KO'ing Tszyu.

Lets not forget that Forrest practically had Mosely out on his feet and Forrest isn't a devastating puncher.

[Thread Stealer]

MAAAAAN people are overrating SSM here!! If a shot Vargas can push Mosely and some argue could have beaten him had it gone on then why are people saying he would have wiped out Tzsyu?? I think SSM would have probably won a close decision but fuck he wouldnt have KO'd him no way :nono, if he couldnt stop or even hurt Collazo then how could he have Tzsyu?

Well people are either underrating Tszyu or overrating Mosley, but Mosley @ 154 against Vargas or even @ 147 in 2007 is not the same as he was around the 1997-00 period when he was at 135, and then moved up to 147, which was when he was close to Tszyu's weight.

[Ramshall1]

talking prime V prime. . . this would have been great. Gotta go with Shane by late TKO.

[gatorage]

Tszyu has taken some huge shots throughout his entire career and not looked hurt very often. Mosely has been hurt just as many times in my opinion. Tszyu has never appeared troubled by bodyshots either and he took alot in the Hatton fight.

I'm surprised people think his chin is suspect. I know some haters are gonna keep bringing up the Phillips fight (again?) He took helacious shots from Phillips throughout ten rounds with little regard for defence, and if you watch the knock-out punch on youtube, he walked right into a fantastic right that I reckon would have floored most guys. He still didn't go down and was stopped Castillo style against the ropes and walked out of the ring.

Hatton fight he didn't get knocked down and his face was a mess at the end but I never saw him on queer street in that fight. He looked old, unconditioned and unmotivated more than anything.

Hurtado gave him a few flash knock-downs but nothing significant. Each time Tszyu got straight back up and chased Hurtado across the ring throwing punches without much defence again. He didn't look worried about being hit with more at all. In fact, he nearly stopped Hurtado at the end of the round, you can see Hurtado doesn't know where his corner is.

Judah gave him a fantastic uppercut and we know Judah has some pop, but people over-rate the effect it had. Tszyu is clearly in control as he backpeddled and ties Judah up. Soon as the action starts again Tszyu goes forward and whacks Judah before the round ends and the fight is over not long after.

No way Mosely would knock Tsyzu out. No way Mosely does it in 5. If there was a knock-out in the fight it would be Tszyu knocking Mosely out. Tszyu would be the dangerous fighter in the early rounds.

It's a 50/50. Tszyu in my opinion was a brilliant fighter with as much skill as anyone who fell in love with his power as his career wore on and disregarded much of his earlier skill and head movement. If you're lucky to see some of his amateur fights (not just the forrest one) you'll see why Teddy Atlas and Chris Byrd said that an amateur Tszyu was the best boxer they had ever seen. You can see some of this in his early pro fights, the Rodriguez one he stands in front of the guy with hands down and dodges punches with head movement while standing stationary like the punches are in slow-mo.

Tszyu's mistake was losing to Phillips right when he was on the verge of securing a big name fight. He'll always have a question mark over his resume because of it.

Mosely and De La Hoya used to watch Tszyu fights in admiration. I've read stuff from both guys saying that no fight with Tszyu would be easy and he was a fighter both respected greatly.

Mosely Tszyu is 50/50. I think Tszyu has a chance against anyone at 140.

[CASH_718]

MAAAAAN people are overrating SSM here!! If a shot Vargas can push Mosely and some argue could have beaten him had it gone on then why are people saying he would have wiped out Tzsyu?? I think SSM would have probably won a close decision but fuck he wouldnt have KO'd him no way :nono, if he couldnt stop or even hurt Collazo then how could he have Tzsyu? He didn't hurt Collazo??? He wasn't hurt when he went down???

Oh and SHane isn't in his prime right now either and look what he did in the 2nd Vargas fight. And Vargas is alot bigger then Tsyzu anyway.

Mosley TKO 10

[stake501]

Tszyu has taken some huge shots throughout his entire career and not looked hurt very often. Mosely has been hurt just as many times in my opinion. Tszyu has never appeared troubled by bodyshots either and he took alot in the Hatton fight.

I'm surprised people think his chin is suspect. I know some haters are gonna keep bringing up the Phillips fight (again?) He took helacious shots from Phillips throughout ten rounds with little regard for defence, and if you watch the knock-out punch on youtube, he walked right into a fantastic right that I reckon would have floored most guys. He still didn't go down and was stopped Castillo style against the ropes and walked out of the ring.

Hatton fight he didn't get knocked down and his face was a mess at the end but I never saw him on queer street in that fight. He looked old, unconditioned and unmotivated more than anything.

Hurtado gave him a few flash knock-downs but nothing significant. Each time Tszyu got straight back up and chased Hurtado across the ring throwing punches without much defence again. He didn't look worried about being hit with more at all. In fact, he nearly stopped Hurtado at the end of the round, you can see Hurtado doesn't know where his corner is.

Judah gave him a fantastic uppercut and we know Judah has some pop, but people over-rate the effect it had. Tszyu is clearly in control as he backpeddled and ties Judah up. Soon as the action starts again Tszyu goes forward and whacks Judah before the round ends and the fight is over not long after.

No way Mosely would knock Tsyzu out. No way Mosely does it in 5. If there was a knock-out in the fight it would be Tszyu knocking Mosely out. Tszyu would be the dangerous fighter in the early rounds.

It's a 50/50. Tszyu in my opinion was a brilliant fighter with as much skill as anyone who fell in love with his power as his career wore on and disregarded much of his earlier skill and head movement. If you're lucky to see some of his amateur fights (not just the forrest one) you'll see why Teddy Atlas and Chris Byrd said that an amateur Tszyu was the best boxer they had ever seen. You can see some of this in his early pro fights, the Rodriguez one he stands in front of the guy with hands down and dodges punches with head movement while standing stationary like the punches are in slow-mo.

Tszyu's mistake was losing to Phillips right when he was on the verge of securing a big name fight. He'll always have a question mark over his resume because of it.

Mosely and De La Hoya used to watch Tszyu fights in admiration. I've read stuff from both guys saying that no fight with Tszyu would be easy and he was a fighter both respected greatly.

Mosely Tszyu is 50/50. I think Tszyu has a chance against anyone at 140.

Most sensible post I have read...

If Tszyu had beaten Hatton he would be on al lot of p4p lists as no 1.

Zoo was quality, and would have given SSM a hell of a time. A proper 50/50 fight we never got to see.

[China_hand_Joe]

If Tszyu had beaten Hatton he would be on al lot of p4p lists as no 1.

Only outside of America, they prefered Bernard "I lose plentiful rounds to boardline contenders" Hopkins.

[IrnBruMan]

Tszyu has taken some huge shots throughout his entire career and not looked hurt very often. Mosely has been hurt just as many times in my opinion. Tszyu has never appeared troubled by bodyshots either and he took alot in the Hatton fight.

I'm surprised people think his chin is suspect. I know some haters are gonna keep bringing up the Phillips fight (again?) He took helacious shots from Phillips throughout ten rounds with little regard for defence, and if you watch the knock-out punch on youtube, he walked right into a fantastic right that I reckon would have floored most guys. He still didn't go down and was stopped Castillo style against the ropes and walked out of the ring.

Hatton fight he didn't get knocked down and his face was a mess at the end but I never saw him on queer street in that fight. He looked old, unconditioned and unmotivated more than anything.

Hurtado gave him a few flash knock-downs but nothing significant. Each time Tszyu got straight back up and chased Hurtado across the ring throwing punches without much defence again. He didn't look worried about being hit with more at all. In fact, he nearly stopped Hurtado at the end of the round, you can see Hurtado doesn't know where his corner is.

Judah gave him a fantastic uppercut and we know Judah has some pop, but people over-rate the effect it had. Tszyu is clearly in control as he backpeddled and ties Judah up. Soon as the action starts again Tszyu goes forward and whacks Judah before the round ends and the fight is over not long after.

No way Mosely would knock Tsyzu out. No way Mosely does it in 5. If there was a knock-out in the fight it would be Tszyu knocking Mosely out. Tszyu would be the dangerous fighter in the early rounds.

It's a 50/50. Tszyu in my opinion was a brilliant fighter with as much skill as anyone who fell in love with his power as his career wore on and disregarded much of his earlier skill and head movement. If you're lucky to see some of his amateur fights (not just the forrest one) you'll see why Teddy Atlas and Chris Byrd said that an amateur Tszyu was the best boxer they had ever seen. You can see some of this in his early pro fights, the Rodriguez one he stands in front of the guy with hands down and dodges punches with head movement while standing stationary like the punches are in slow-mo.

Tszyu's mistake was losing to Phillips right when he was on the verge of securing a big name fight. He'll always have a question mark over his resume because of it.

Mosely and De La Hoya used to watch Tszyu fights in admiration. I've read stuff from both guys saying that no fight with Tszyu would be easy and he was a fighter both respected greatly.

Mosely Tszyu is 50/50. I think Tszyu has a chance against anyone at 140.

Great post :good

[IrnBruMan]

He didn't hurt Collazo??? He wasn't hurt when he went down???

Oh and SHane isn't in his prime right now either and look what he did in the 2nd Vargas fight. And Vargas is alot bigger then Tsyzu anyway.

Mosley TKO 10

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Are you trying to say Vargas was a more formidable opponent than Tszyu simply because he's a fatass? :lol:

[Smith]

He wouldnt have beaten Kosta badly at all

[Daruf]

50/50 fight in my book but i think Tszyu by late TKO.

[SugarRay]

50/50 fight only if Tszyu could stay away from eating all those right hands like he did against Phillips. Otherwise, it would be similiar result to the Phillips fight.

[grayggr]

Tszyu has taken some huge shots throughout his entire career and not looked hurt very often. Mosely has been hurt just as many times in my opinion. Tszyu has never appeared troubled by bodyshots either and he took alot in the Hatton fight.

I'm surprised people think his chin is suspect. I know some haters are gonna keep bringing up the Phillips fight (again?) He took helacious shots from Phillips throughout ten rounds with little regard for defence, and if you watch the knock-out punch on youtube, he walked right into a fantastic right that I reckon would have floored most guys. He still didn't go down and was stopped Castillo style against the ropes and walked out of the ring.

Hatton fight he didn't get knocked down and his face was a mess at the end but I never saw him on queer street in that fight. He looked old, unconditioned and unmotivated more than anything.

Hurtado gave him a few flash knock-downs but nothing significant. Each time Tszyu got straight back up and chased Hurtado across the ring throwing punches without much defence again. He didn't look worried about being hit with more at all. In fact, he nearly stopped Hurtado at the end of the round, you can see Hurtado doesn't know where his corner is.

Judah gave him a fantastic uppercut and we know Judah has some pop, but people over-rate the effect it had. Tszyu is clearly in control as he backpeddled and ties Judah up. Soon as the action starts again Tszyu goes forward and whacks Judah before the round ends and the fight is over not long after.

No way Mosely would knock Tsyzu out. No way Mosely does it in 5. If there was a knock-out in the fight it would be Tszyu knocking Mosely out. Tszyu would be the dangerous fighter in the early rounds.

It's a 50/50. Tszyu in my opinion was a brilliant fighter with as much skill as anyone who fell in love with his power as his career wore on and disregarded much of his earlier skill and head movement. If you're lucky to see some of his amateur fights (not just the forrest one) you'll see why Teddy Atlas and Chris Byrd said that an amateur Tszyu was the best boxer they had ever seen. You can see some of this in his early pro fights, the Rodriguez one he stands in front of the guy with hands down and dodges punches with head movement while standing stationary like the punches are in slow-mo.

Tszyu's mistake was losing to Phillips right when he was on the verge of securing a big name fight. He'll always have a question mark over his resume because of it.

Mosely and De La Hoya used to watch Tszyu fights in admiration. I've read stuff from both guys saying that no fight with Tszyu would be easy and he was a fighter both respected greatly.

Mosely Tszyu is 50/50. I think Tszyu has a chance against anyone at 140.

I'll 3rd it. Great Post. well written, researched and thought out. Nothing worse than airheads spouting out xxxxx would ktfo of xxxxxx with 4 lines of banality.

Kudos to you.

[New Wind]

he wouldn't..

Zoo would out box him 12 rds wide ud

[Mook]

Tszyu wins this by UD, imo. he had a very good jab, when he chose to use it properly. It was the jab that was the key to all four of Mosley's losses. however, I can see an argument for Mosley. shame it never happened.

vargas fights tell us nothing.

[Relentless]

MAAAAAN people are overrating SSM here!! If a shot Vargas can push Mosely and some argue could have beaten him had it gone on then why are people saying he would have wiped out Tzsyu?? I think SSM would have probably won a close decision but fuck he wouldnt have KO'd him no way :nono, if he couldnt stop or even hurt Collazo then how could he have Tzsyu?

you dont really like tszyu your just trying to make hattons win look more impressive.

[1lehudson]

Shane would have blasted KT. Its a style mismatch. KT is taylor made for Mosley's style. He walks in with his head on one plain. Very little head movement. KT was a classic European standup fighter, something that you hardly ever see from European fighers anymore.

[Relentless]

I am willing to bet that every response to this thread, sayin Mosely would win for sure, are the same ones that said Lacy would KO Calzaghe for sure:rofl

i dont know if you have seen mosley fight or not but mosley is more like calzaghe and tszyu would be like lacy.