View Full Version : Klitschko-McCline is on!
PATSYS
07-11-2007, 01:42 PM
:patsch
Shpion
07-11-2007, 01:43 PM
:patsch
This is old news. And who would you like Vitaly to fight for his come back fight, Godzila?
unitas
07-11-2007, 01:46 PM
This is old news. And who would you like Vitaly to fight for his come back fight, Godzila?
Well, it was vitaly who said he was fighting renouned world class fighter!!!
so it was him who claimed to be fighting godzilla!!!!
and then he fights pussy mccline.......:patsch:patsch:patsch
Asterion
07-11-2007, 01:49 PM
McCline is a good opponent for a comeback fight. Foreman and Holyfield fought worse opponents in their comebacks.
Heavyrighthand
07-11-2007, 01:50 PM
McCline is a very good, and bold choice for someone who's been out for two and a half years. Look at the unknown bums some of these comeback fighters take, and then rethink Vitali's choice to fight McCline. McCline, afterall, was probably winning at least two of the rounds agains Valuev in his last fight. Had his knee not crumbled, he would proably had done very well in that fight, if not won.
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If McCline is 6 foot 6, Vitali looks to be every bit of the 6 foot 8 he's reported to be.
Relentless
07-11-2007, 01:50 PM
well foreman and holyfield were over 40
PATSYS
07-11-2007, 01:52 PM
This is old news. And who would you like Vitaly to fight for his come back fight, Godzila? Valuev.
Asterion
07-11-2007, 01:52 PM
well foreman and holyfield were over 40
Foreman was 37.
Shpion
07-11-2007, 01:54 PM
Well, it was vitaly who said he was fighting renouned world class fighter!!!
so it was him who claimed to be fighting godzilla!!!!
and then he fights pussy mccline.......:patsch:patsch:patsch
Even though undeserving, he just fought for a title (overall 3 times chalenger), so I gues that would qualify him as a renounced world class fighter, I guess. I am not saying that McCline is a great opponent but for a comeback fight, IMO he is not a bad choice, considering what else is available.
Shpion
07-11-2007, 01:55 PM
Valuev.
Vitaly proposed such a fight after Valuev's loss to Chagaev. Need a link?
unitas
07-11-2007, 01:57 PM
as i said: no problem with the comeback opponent!!!!!!!!!!
just with vitaly talking bullshit about facing a world class fighter!!!
Shpion
07-11-2007, 01:57 PM
Foreman was 37.
37.5
When did Holy retire in order to comeback though?
Relentless
07-11-2007, 01:59 PM
why did valuev decline a fight with vitlay?
Shpion
07-11-2007, 02:01 PM
why did valuev decline a fight with vitlay?
He wanted to fight the easier opponent - Vlad.
Asterion
07-11-2007, 02:04 PM
When did Holy retire in order to comeback though?
He didn't retire but his last 3 fights could be considered a 'comeback' after a long layoff.
barneyrub
07-11-2007, 02:06 PM
mcline is about as hopeless an opponent out there, i tak eit ray austin wasnt available lol, no one eyed men like brewster either, mcline has no heart for a fight, ive never seen such a scared fighter, just watch the guy during referees instructions, thats where his bottle goes.
Heavyrighthand
07-11-2007, 02:31 PM
as i said: no problem with the comeback opponent!!!!!!!!!!
just with vitaly talking bullshit about facing a world class fighter!!!
McCline is a world class fighter, if you want to be precise about it.
Sure, some will make jokes and such about how world class he is, but he was a highly rated contender, and lost a close fight against one titleholder in Byrd, and was just recently winning more rounds in the fight against another titleholder in Valuev. So jokes aside, McCline would certainly be considered world class.
Great opponent for Vitali to take. Not only a world class opponent, but also a very big, massive man for Vitali to fight, so he won't enjoy the massive size advantage he normally has over most everyone else.
Very bold move, especially when he could have merely fought someone like a Rydell Booker.
PATSYS
07-11-2007, 02:34 PM
McCline is a world class fighter, if you want to be precise about it.
Sure, some will make jokes and such about how world class he is, but he was a highly rated contender, and lost a close fight against one titleholder in Byrd, and was just recently winning more rounds in the fight against another titleholder in Valuev. So jokes aside, McCline would certainly be considered world class.
Great opponent for Vitali to take. Very bold move, especially when he could have merely fought someone like Rydell Booker.
I can only assume that Booker priced himself out.
McCline is surely a very decent fighter for a comeback fight,but all the same I am a bit disappointed as Vitaly's stated in an interview a few days ago that he would face a "world famous boxer".
As it turns out McCline is that " world famous fighter".
Anyway! I very much hope that Vitaly vs McClien is fun to watch as long as that fight will last.
markclow
07-11-2007, 04:22 PM
I think McCline is a decent opponent.
vonBanditos
07-11-2007, 04:29 PM
McCline is a world class fighter, if you want to be precise about it.
Sure, some will make jokes and such about how world class he is, but he was a highly rated contender, and lost a close fight against one titleholder in Byrd, and was just recently winning more rounds in the fight against another titleholder in Valuev. So jokes aside, McCline would certainly be considered world class.
Great opponent for Vitali to take. Not only a world class opponent, but also a very big, massive man for Vitali to fight, so he won't enjoy the massive size advantage he normally has over most everyone else.
Very bold move, especially when he could have merely fought someone like a Rydell Booker.
It would be more appropriate to call him a gatekeeper. Vitali is and should be considered in a tier higher than McCline. There's no reason to prop him up, though. It's a very good comeback fight for Vitali because, as you said, it's not like he's fighting Rydell Booker. He's a B level guy that many once had high hopes for.
Heavyrighthand
07-16-2007, 11:23 PM
The champ is BACK!
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thesandman
07-16-2007, 11:34 PM
McCline has an unnatural advantage with that tiny, peanut like head.
How is anyone supposed to hit that?????
emanuel_augustus
07-16-2007, 11:34 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see McCline pull this upset.
Vitali hasn't fought in 2 1/2 years. The thinking here is that McCline will be tentative like he usually is and be target practice. However, if Jameel stands up to Vitali like he was starting to against Valuev, he has the size to trouble him and ring rust could be a factor.
Shpion
07-16-2007, 11:42 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see McCline pull this upset.
Vitali hasn't fought in 2 1/2 years. The thinking here is that McCline will be tentative like he usually is and be target practice. However, if Jameel stands up to Vitali like he was starting to against Valuev, he has the size to trouble him and ring rust could be a factor.
Even 50% pre-retirement Vitaly is better than Valuev.
emanuel_augustus
07-17-2007, 12:15 AM
McCline knocked down Calvin Brock early in his career. He was holding his own against Valuev, good comeback choice if you ask me.
He also destroyed Michael Grant, dominated Shannon Briggs, and nearly beat Chris Byrd for the WBA title. He did freeze against Wlad, but when he's on, McCline is a solid opponent.
skier47
07-17-2007, 03:07 AM
He also destroyed Michael Grant, dominated Shannon Briggs, and nearly beat Chris Byrd for the WBA title. He did freeze against Wlad, but when he's on, McCline is a solid opponent.
That's not the wayI remember that fight. It was Wlad who looked
confused and tentative during much of the fight. McCline's height
and reach seem to trouble Wlad especially in the middle rounds when
McCline countered well and actually backed Wlad up. Wlad's class
and power started to show later in the fight and he got the K.O. but
McCline can be a very dangerous opponent for anybody. Very solid
choice for Vitali. I hope he hasn't bitten off more than he can chew.
He must be rusty as hell after all this time out of the ring and
recovering from serious injuries.
Marquito_666
07-17-2007, 05:53 AM
McCline is good enough for a come back fight !
Nobody knows what Vitaly is able to bring to the table, yet.
Could be a good fight to measure that.
Mrboogie23
07-17-2007, 07:46 AM
Its a good fight for Vitali. McCline is a solid guy. He has some good wins on his resume. It will be a good gauge for Vitali.
barneyrub
07-17-2007, 07:52 AM
He also destroyed Michael Grant, dominated Shannon Briggs, and nearly beat Chris Byrd for the WBA title. He did freeze against Wlad, but when he's on, McCline is a solid opponent.lol, well grant was psychologically traumatised after the lewis loss, in the first second of the mcline fight he was so scared he went over on th efirst punch, he actually went over on his ankle and broke it, thats why the fight was stopped, he broke his ankle, he wasnt knocked out. Shannon Briggs was like a statue in their fight, he was so big and heavy and couldnt move, i think he was about 280 in that fight. The worse he has ever looked. Byrd, well a shot Golota pretty much beat Byrd too.
Mcline quit against wlad after fighting scared and on th everge of a panic attack all night, he stood so far back that all his jabs fell short, hopeless, yet it took wlad all thos erounds to do anything with him and in the end mcline ran and dropped to the canvas in fear then quit on his stool while completley in charge of his senses, as soon as he gets hit hi sheart deflates. If vitali cant put this guy away in 2 rounds then he should forget it.
MachineGunMitch
07-17-2007, 09:03 AM
who cares really......?
DamonD
07-17-2007, 09:12 AM
It's a good fight for Vitali given he'll have almost 3 years' worth of ring rust, coming back from big injuries and in his mid-thirties.
If this was Vitali in his prime it would be worthless, but for Vitali at this stage in his life and career, McCline is definitely a suitable opponent I think.
I'm not expecting much from this fight, though.
Rudolph
07-17-2007, 09:44 AM
He wanted to fight the easier opponent - Vlad.
:rofl :rofl
RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 12:22 PM
who cares really......?
Who cares? I do, if you don't you're in the wrong thread. :deal
Heavyrighthand
07-17-2007, 12:40 PM
Nobody really needs to defend this choice of McCline. McCline is an excellent choice for a former champ coming off of nearly 3 years of inactivity/retirement. Anyone who criticises this choice is really just being ridiculous or has no understanding of sports. Of the 1200 professional heavyweights in the world, McCline is in the top 20-25 fighters in virtually every significant rating there is. Considering the length of retirement I'll go a step further, McCline will be a difficult hurdle for Vitali, and I would be very surprised if Vitali is sharp enough to easily handle McCline. I believe 3 years of rust and aging will make for quite a bit of struggling to get by such a formidable first step back. There are at least 1180 easier hurdles to tackle, but obviously Vitali wants to ask serious questions of himself. McCline is definitely beatable, but he is also a very big, strong, durable, and quick handed man that has given many of the top guys all they could handle, including Byrd, Briggs, and Brock. Excellent choice for first comeback fight!!!
:good
J_Roth
07-17-2007, 12:42 PM
I'm very excited about this fight. Vitaly was my favorite fighter when he retired. He will be my favorite again. Hate him if you want the champ is back.
Thread Stealer
07-17-2007, 02:03 PM
I can only assume that Booker priced himself out.
Yeah, Booker asked for two cartons of cigarettes and $5 in his commissary.
paulfv
07-17-2007, 02:31 PM
McCline is going to get housed. He better pray for a cut like Lewis got or an injury like Byrd got. Otherwise: He's toast, fast.
DamonD
07-17-2007, 03:27 PM
Maybe he just shouldn't even get in the ring, huh? ;)
paulfv
07-17-2007, 03:51 PM
Maybe he just shouldn't even get in the ring, huh? ;)
Ha ha. Unless he wants to get paid! :)
PowerPuncher
07-17-2007, 05:55 PM
Vitali needs a tune up but lets not call McCline world class. He has the mindset of a big friendly teddybear with about as much boxing ability as a teddybear. Not to mention McClines shot now anyway
PH|LLA
07-17-2007, 06:02 PM
OKTERBERFIST :rofl
RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 06:07 PM
OKTERBERFIST :rofl
It's "Oktoberfist" isn't it?:yep
Heavyrighthand
07-17-2007, 06:20 PM
It's "Oktoberfist" isn't it?:yep
Surely McCline knows he's merely playing the role of a sacrificial lamb, cause he's not even pictured on the poster.
This fight is McCline's big chance, after two big fight disappointemnts in being beaten by Byrd, and the injury against Valuev; a fight in which McCline was actually do well. McCline was somewhat hesitant, but he was certainly getting inside, here and there, and scoring on Valuev.
Thread Stealer
07-17-2007, 06:23 PM
Go McCline!!
Words
07-17-2007, 06:27 PM
The champ is BACK!
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gay.
RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 06:32 PM
Surely McCline knows he's merely playing the role of a sacrificial lamb, cause he's not even pictured on the poster.
This fight is McCline's big chance, after two big fight disappointemnts in being beaten by Byrd, and the injury against Valuev; a fight in which McCline was actually do well. McCline was somewhat hesitant, but he was certainly getting inside, here and there, and scoring on Valuev.
I never saw that fight but after hearing it was stopped early due to some freak injury to McCline I'm glad I didn't buy it! :good
I heard McCline was doing pretty good though at least for the first round or so......................
Excellent choice & a real challenge for a guy coming back after being out so long (2½ years or so)
I would've expected a Taurus Sykes type opponent. This will be a bigger test.
RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 06:33 PM
gay.
How's that gay?
Cool poster with humor & an attitude, grow the fuck up.
Heavyrighthand
07-17-2007, 06:35 PM
I agree, the poster is cool as hell. In that photo, Vitali looks ready to start his wave of destruction.
Dr. Ironfist will rule with an iron hand, once again.
RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 06:37 PM
Say hello to my new avatar........................
Dementia Pugulistica
07-17-2007, 09:14 PM
McCline is a wise choice. He has no chance of beating Vitaly, and he has a name that is familiar, and he looks the part i.e. all pumped up. So we will be fed a bunch of lies about how good/underrated McCline really is up till fight night when Vitlay ko's McCline in round 4. Vitaly will be ranked in the top ten after this bout, if he isn't already:tired
I agree, the poster is cool as hell. In that photo, Vitali looks ready to start his wave of destruction.
Dr. Ironfist will rule with an iron hand, once again.
I think you might be right, he's in there to hurt people ..plain and simple.
Heavyrighthand
07-17-2007, 10:08 PM
Say hello to my new avatar........................:good
Heavyrighthand
07-17-2007, 10:16 PM
I think you might be right, he's in there to hurt people ..plain and simple.
I guess we are still not even close to knowing who Vitali will fight after this September fight, assuming he beats McCline. It'll be one of these three;
-Maskaev Peter winner
-McCall Peter winner
-Virchis Peter winner
Vitali would probably be the first one to take Peter out via TKO, if Peter is his next opponent. It'd be a beating alot like Danny Williams took, only Peter would be able to withstand more punishment.
Asterion
07-17-2007, 10:39 PM
The poster is cool. I only have one objection.
Why the fuck the name is "Oktoberfist"?? I mean...the friggin fight is in September. :huh
Thread Stealer
07-17-2007, 10:40 PM
The poster is cool. I only have one objection.
Why the fuck the name is "Oktoberfist"?? I mean...the friggin fight is in September. :huh
:lol:
Heavyrighthand
07-17-2007, 10:43 PM
The poster is cool. I only have one objection.
Why the fuck the name is "Oktoberfist"?? I mean...the friggin fight is in September. :huh
The fight is just before the kickoff of Oktoberfest, which is a big deal over there, apparently.
Asterion
07-17-2007, 10:53 PM
The fight is just before the kickoff of Oktoberfest, which is a big deal over there, apparently.
I know. It is only funny because I thought Oktoberfest started in October, not September. Apparently I was wrong, this year Oktoberfest starts the exact same day of Klitschko-McCline (so the name "Oktoberfest" would be essentially incorrect).
Last year, in October, I went to celebrate with some germans one night of those Oktoberfest celebrations. It was great, everyone getting drunk. Good times. :yep :yep
BigReg
07-17-2007, 10:59 PM
I never saw that fight but after hearing it was stopped early due to some freak injury to McCline I'm glad I didn't buy it! :good
I heard McCline was doing pretty good though at least for the first round or so......................
Excellent choice & a real challenge for a guy coming back after being out so long (2½ years or so)
I would've expected a Taurus Sykes type opponent. This will be a bigger test.
Can we please not call McCline a real challenge. Anybody who loses to Zuri Lawrence and is coming off a knee injury can never be called a real challenge. Let's call it what it is, a stay busy fight, against a has been. I certainly don't fault Vitali for taking this fight. But he's cleary looking to get some rounds in before he gets a crack at the title.
Words
07-18-2007, 02:28 PM
How's that gay?
Cool poster with humor & an attitude, grow the fuck up.
Because ANYTHING said in a german accent and ending in fist, especially something humourous such as a pun, will be gay. Fact.
Its humourous, and its funny, and that is in part due to the MASSIVE HOMO-EROTIC and/or SADO-MASOCHISTIC innuendo that the phrase Oktoberfist implies. Just coz something is gay doesn't mean it can't be cool y'know.
Where's that picture of the the K brothers spooning each other bollock naked when you need it.
dwilson
07-18-2007, 02:58 PM
Klitgets to destroy another yank bum.
Marquito_666
07-18-2007, 04:00 PM
There´s nothing gay about Oktoberfist/Oktoberfest....
I don´t know anything LESS gay than a big boxing/beer drinking event ???
Boxing/Drinking beer is gay, and internet and jolt cola is macho ???
joeboxer
07-18-2007, 04:15 PM
Well, it was vitaly who said he was fighting renouned world class fighter!!!
so it was him who claimed to be fighting godzilla!!!!
and then he fights pussy mccline.......:patsch:patsch:patschmost guys fight Jeremy Bates, Andy Sample or Marcus Rhode in thier comebacks.
Astola
07-18-2007, 04:49 PM
Can we please not call McCline a real challenge. Anybody who loses to Zuri Lawrence and is coming off a knee injury can never be called a real challenge. Let's call it what it is, a stay busy fight, against a has been. I certainly don't fault Vitali for taking this fight. But he's cleary looking to get some rounds in before he gets a crack at the title.
Thats excactly how I see it:good
Dont blame Vitaly for the easy mcline (who will get KO'ed). Its a logical opponent.
I personally want to see Wlad vs. Vitaly within the next two years - that would be freakin awesome!!!
Heavyrighthand
07-18-2007, 06:46 PM
Its humourous, and its funny, and that is in part due to the MASSIVE HOMO-EROTIC and/or SADO-MASOCHISTIC innuendo that the phrase Oktoberfist implies..
I wish someone would try to explain to me this partiular part. :blood
paulfv
07-18-2007, 07:07 PM
Because ANYTHING said in a german accent and ending in fist, especially something humourous such as a pun, will be gay. Fact.
Its humourous, and its funny, and that is in part due to the MASSIVE HOMO-EROTIC and/or SADO-MASOCHISTIC innuendo that the phrase Oktoberfist implies. Just coz something is gay doesn't mean it can't be cool y'know.
Where's that picture of the the K brothers spooning each other bollock naked when you need it.
I believe this to be the board's resident Klit-hater. Kind of the king of the lot, if you will.
Vantage_West
07-18-2007, 08:27 PM
McCline is a good opponent for a comeback fight. Foreman and Holyfield fought worse opponents in their comebacks.foreman on a comeback was a fad (at the time only a bit ofearning money) holyfield is old old old and hasnt had a break long enough to lick the wounds vitali is fighting a decent top 20 fighter wats wrong with that he has to start somwhere.
paulfv
07-18-2007, 08:32 PM
foreman on a comeback was a fad (at the time only a bit ofearning money) holyfield is old old old and hasnt had a break long enough to lick the wounds vitali is fighting a decent top 20 fighter wats wrong with that he has to start somwhere.
And he wanted to fight the champ, but Peter's crew blocked him.
Geez, some people criticized Brewster for fighting Wlad right away, and he was out, what, like 1/3 time that Vitali was out? Give me a break...Vitali wanted to fight for the title, as WBC Champion Emeritus, and they wouldn't let him.
thesandman
07-18-2007, 09:27 PM
And he wanted to fight the champ, but Peter's crew blocked him.
Geez, some people criticized Brewster for fighting Wlad right away, and he was out, what, like 1/3 time that Vitali was out? Give me a break...Vitali wanted to fight for the title, as WBC Champion Emeritus, and they wouldn't let him.
And they shouldn't let him. This Champion Emeritus is absolutely, totally fucking ludicrous.
BUT... I don't see much wrong with this fight. Vitlay will win. But McCline should give him a reasonable workout against a reasonable, (top 15 - 30) kind of guy.
paulfv
07-18-2007, 09:49 PM
And they shouldn't let him. This Champion Emeritus is absolutely, totally fucking ludicrous.
BUT... I don't see much wrong with this fight. Vitlay will win. But McCline should give him a reasonable workout against a reasonable, (top 15 - 30) kind of guy.
Tell the WBC it's ludicrous, it's their thing. And they just gave one to PBF.
McCline is a reasonable fight. He's big, he has power, he's top 20. Vitali would have fought anyone, it just worked out that McCline could make the date and agreed to the terms.
That's what I love about guys like Holyfield and Vitali -- they'll fight anyone and duck no one. Same with Mercer or a Lamon Brewster. Just make the date and they'll show up ready to fight.
thesandman
07-18-2007, 10:07 PM
Tell the WBC it's ludicrous, it's their thing. And they just gave one to PBF.
McCline is a reasonable fight. He's big, he has power, he's top 20. Vitali would have fought anyone, it just worked out that McCline could make the date and agreed to the terms.
That's what I love about guys like Holyfield and Vitali -- they'll fight anyone and duck no one. Same with Mercer or a Lamon Brewster. Just make the date and they'll show up ready to fight.
Is that why Vitali has had 2 fights against guys that are reasonably rated in the Top 10?
I said McCline was a reasonable fight didn't I???
And the WBC is bullshit. Just like this interim champ crap they keep coming up with.
On this whole supposed "Champion Emeritus" crap, they really didn't think it through did they? Supposedly you came come back and demand a title fight whenever you like?
So, Lewis, or Vitlay if he keeps it, can come back at 50 and demand a shot??
Or, if Vitlay loses this fight, or a title fight, is he still Champion Emeritus, or does he lose it? Does McCline pick up that title if he beats Vitlay???? Or Maskaev/Peter if it ever gets that far????
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