Who is Vladmir Virchis?

[Odo]

Virchis' name has been mentioned in quite a lot of threads here on esb,but sorrowly a lot of our fellow American posters have never seen him fight.Therefore I decided to create this thread in order to provide some info about this very interesting heavy weight from the Klitschko's native country,Ukraine.
Virchis(23-1) is a huge heavy weight(6,4-1,93 cm) whose best weapon is without a doubt his murderous firepower.He can end a fight any time.
He is probably one of the biggest banger among the present heavy weights,and a threat to any rival including all present top guns.
He is a relatively slow fighter who tends to stalk and corner his foe in order to land one of his powerful punches.He has a quite leaky defence,but a decent chin.He for sure isnt the most skilled or fastest fighter out there,but due to his impressive firepower none of his of opponents has dared to duke it out with him so far.
His stamina is okay,but nothing special,and so is his jab.
He lost to Ruslan Chagaev by majority point decision-his only official loss.A lot of ring observers had him ahead on points against Chagaev after 11 very lame rounds and one exciting one.
Chagaev and Virchis are stable mates,and they also seem to be friends.Therefore they didnt go for each other for 11 rounds.
Virchis twice defeated Italian olympian medalist Paolo Vidoz(who stopped Calvin Brook,and Sam Peter at the olmypics)-the biggest and best known skalp in his collection.
He also beat decent fighters like Michael Sprott,Taras Bidenko(who gave hell to Valuev-in his 4th pro fight [Only registered and activated users can see links]),Julius Francis,Balu Zaur,olympian Chaanoune,and Cliff Couser(who knocked out Monte Berrett a few days ago).
Virchis ' encounter with very promising heavy weight talent Taras Bidenko was one of the most exciting,entertaining ,and dramatic heavy weight fights which could be seen within the last couple of years.
Behind on points Virchis knocked his Ukranian compatriot out in the very last round of their encounter.

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Adnan Serin(17-6) is a German based journeyman who made the water quite hot for Danny Williams when they met in the ring.
He lost quite controversially to Konstantin Onofrei(who beat Wlad at the amateurs) and Rene Monse(who almost knocked Luan Krasniqui out a few years ago).

[unitas]

my favorite heavyweight. one punch power galore. cant box a lick......but has a punch and a chin.

would beat ibragimov IMO.

[Odo]

my favorite heavyweight. one punch power galore. cant box a lick......but has a punch and a chin.

would beat ibragimov IMO. I dont think so,unitas! Ibragimov is a fast mover,and Virchis' nightmare is a mobile,skilled and capable opponent. Virchis needs a stationary target IMO.Of course he has pop in his fists ,and can surely end a fight any time.He has a puncher's chance against any present heavy weight,but styles make fights.Ibragimov has the wrong style for Virchis IMO. Virchis would probably murder stationary targets like Samil Sam,or Sam Peter,but Bidenko,Ibragimov,Byrd,or Gomez are the wrong foes for him.

[Rudolph]

Virchis is Valuev's possible next opponent.
He's a very strong guy who punches ridiculously hard. However he can be outboxed quite handily. He lost all but the 1st and 12th rounds to Bidenko who is a cruiseweight at best. He was also given a very debatable decision in his fight with Sprott, who was able to outbox him for the most part and even hurt Virchis in one of the closing rounds.

[Shpion]

I dont think so,unitas! Ibragimov is a fast mover,and Virchis' nightmare is a mobile,skilled and capable opponent. Virchis needs a stationary target IMO.Of course he has pop in his fists ,and can surely end a fight any time.He has a puncher's chance against any present heavy weight,but styles make fights.Ibragimov has the wrong style for Virchis IMO. Virchis would probably murder stationary targets like Samil Sam,or Sam Peter,but Bidenko,Ibragimov,Byrd,or Gomez are the wrong foes for him.

I agree. The only reason he won against Bidenko is because Bidenko is stupid and decided to trade with him. If Ibragimov decides to trade with him as well, then it would be good night. Ibragimov appears to be an intelegent fighter though, so I would go with him by a UD if such a fight happens.

[brooklyn1550]

Very big puncher...very strong physically, but limited

[dwilson]

Virchis offers little but a big punch, if a fghter is stupid enough to trade with him then he can win but i expect good top level boxers to pass him without too much probs.

A big puncher like him always has the ability to cause an upset though.

[Sakura]

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[Rock0052]

Virchis-Peter would be an exciting fight.

[Heavyrighthand]

Virchis-Peter would be an exciting fight.

:good

[brooklyn1550]

How good is his chin?

[BoxingGuru]

Peter would fucking kill this fool easy!!!!

Peter is less skilled than Virchis and doesn't hit NEARLY as hard. Scam Cheater doesn't knock out anyone except by hitting behind the head. He hasn't knocked out 1 top 25 guy. Ever.

[El Bombasto]

Virchis is probably the most overlooked fighter in the heavyweight division today

[brooklyn1550]

Peter is less skilled than Virchis and doesn't hit NEARLY as hard. Scam Cheater doesn't knock out anyone except by hitting behind the head. He hasn't knocked out 1 top 25 guy. Ever.

Virchis hits harder, but Peter is more skilled than the even slower Virchis

[Farmboxer]

Virchis has a naturally huge chest, has a rock chin and is better than Peter anyday. Chagaev had a rock chin and would beat Peter also.

[Gsand]

He was quite lucky against Sprott so lets not overrate him

[Ambition_Def]

Peter would fucking kill this fool easy!!!!

Damn right he would.

This is a ridiculous fight anyways. Bring on the damn title already!

Oldlegs stop being a bitch.:twisted:

[shavers]

Virchis was outboxed for 12 rounds by Michael Sprott.Biggest judging scandal since Lewis-Holyfield 1...

[UKITAZ]

Why are some dicks on here going on like Peter has good skills ??? .... He has AVERAGE skills at best .... i cant see how anybody can say Peter would destroy Virchis .... He'd maybe be slight favourite, but with Virchis sheer power and tenacity he'd have more than punches chance ..

[Spitfire]

Adnan Serin(17-6) is a German based journeyman who made the water quite hot for Danny Williams when they met in the ring..

By no stretch can you say that, Danny knocked him down in the first round with a jab to the body. It was little more then a sparring session, and the second Danny turned up the heat in the 3rd he won.

[Shpion]

Why are some dicks on here going on like Peter has good skills ??? .... He has AVERAGE skills at best .... i cant see how anybody can say Peter would destroy Virchis .... He'd maybe be slight favourite, but with Virchis sheer power and tenacity he'd have more than punches chance ..

I like Peter because he is an entertaining fighter but I agree with you, what is it with some people here that make him to be that skilful fighter? Ok he beat Toney, so what. The fat steroid muncher got almost beat by Batchelder. :nut IMO Peter with Virchis is a 50/50 fight. Moreover, if Peter comes in out of shape, I would go with Virchis by a UD because he always comes in in shape.

[Odo]

By no stretch can you say that, Danny knocked him down in the first round with a jab to the body. It was little more then a sparring session, and the second Danny turned up the heat in the 3rd he won.

Danny did have some trouble with Serin.He looked quite average against that journeyman.It is probably a bit exaggerated to say that Serin made the water hot for Danny,but within his limitations he was quite competitive against Danny.

[Odo]

I like Peter because he is an entertaining fighter but I agree with you, what is it with some people here that make him to be that skilful fighter? Ok he beat Toney, so what. The fat steroid muncher got almost beat by Batchelder. :nut IMO Peter with Virchis is a 50/50 fight. Moreover, if Peter comes in out of shape, I would go with Virchis by a UD because he always comes in in shape.


I quite agree with you,shpion!

Some people make it sound as if Peter were the undisputed number two behind Wlad.
Peter went the full route with very limited Croation heavy Jovo Pudar,and had two very lame fights against that fat dwarf Toney.
Besides Paolo Vidoz kicked him out of the olmypic tournament-Peter looked horrible against Vidoz.
Virchis twice beat the Italian olympian quite convincingly.
What's more Peter's style is tailor made for Virchis:a predictable stationary target.
I for my part think that Virchis has the upper hand in firepower,and Peter's defence is quite leaky.
Virchis doesnt look that convincing against fast movers as could be seen against Bidenko or Sprott,but whoever tries to duke it out with him is lost.
Pure madness to go toe to toe with such an awesome banger.
Peter wouldnt be able to go more than 5 rounds with Virchis IMO.

[brooklyn1550]

I quite agree with you,shpion!

Some people make it sound as if Peter were the undisputed number two behind Wlad.
Peter went the full route with very limited Croation heavy Jovo Pudar,and had two very lame fights against that fat dwarf Toney.
Besides Paolo Vidoz kicked him out of the olmypic tournament-Peter looked horrible against Vidoz.
Virchis twice beat the Italian olympian quite convincingly.
What's more Peter's style is tailor made for Virchis:a predictable stationary target.
I for my part think that Virchis has the upper hand in firepower,and Peter's defence is quite leaky.
Virchis doesnt look that convincing against fast movers as could be seen against Bidenko or Sprott,but whoever tries to duke it out with him is lost.
Pure madness to go toe to toe with such an awesome banger.
Peter wouldnt be able to go more than 5 rounds with Virchis IMO.

The amateurs don't mean anything at the pro level. Peter is quite strong and powerful as well and he has a rock solid chin. Virchis doesn't exactly have great defense either, so you could also say it may be bad for Virchis to stand toe to toe with Sam Peter. And I would bet that Virchis wouldn't KO Toney who may be old, fat, and short, but is still good defensively and is tough as nails.

[Amsterdam]

Very big puncher...very strong physically, but limited

Slow as hell, one dimensional and his punch is overrated in my opinion. I've seen plenty of Vladimir Virchis, he's a glorified journeyman with good power.

[brooklyn1550]

Slow as hell, one dimensional and his punch is overrated in my opinion. I've seen plenty of Vladimir Virchis, he's a glorified journeyman with good power.

How do you think he would do against Peter?

[Amsterdam]

The amateurs don't mean anything at the pro level. Peter is quite strong and powerful as well and he has a rock solid chin. Virchis doesn't exactly have great defense either, so you could also say it may be bad for Virchis to stand toe to toe with Sam Peter. And I would bet that Virchis wouldn't KO Toney who may be old, fat, and short, but is still good defensively and is tough as nails.

Please Brooklyn, Toney would have easily outboxed Virchis, Sprott was well on his way, as was Bidenko. Peter mauled Toney in the 2nd affair.

Virchis is not in anyway comparable to Peter, Odo just nuthugs eastern european fighters like many Americans only nuthug American fighters. Him overrating a glorified journeyman like Virchis, whom if was a western fighter he wouldn't care about by the way, is no surprise.

[brooklyn1550]

Please Brooklyn, Toney would have easily outboxed Virchis, Sprott was well on his way, as was Bidenko. Peter mauled Toney in the 2nd affair.


Probably

[Amsterdam]

How do you think he would do against Peter?

He'd get KTFO in a few rounds, his chin is good, but he's a stationary target for Peter to throw those wild haymakers on, just like the one he landed on Jeremy Williams.

Seeing as Sprott can stun Virchis, well, that generally dictates that Peter can starch him as soon as he lands the right shot on the button.

Peter also starches Chagaev and Ibragimov, whom have both struggled with mediocre fighters when they were near to what they are now, where as Pudo for Peter was way earlier and doesn't reflect his improvements.

Bringing up the amatuer examples is also ridiculous, this is professional HW boxing.

Vidoz was a good amatuer, what's he done in the pro's? Not every champion level amatuer is a Povetkin or a Solis.

[Armo_Ruski]

imo toney would not easliy outbox virchis, maybe when toney first moved up to hw not this toney im sorry... this love affair wit sam peter makes me laugh u guys will see :lol: :lol:

[Odo]

Please Brooklyn, Toney would have easily outboxed Virchis, Sprott was well on his way, as was Bidenko. Peter mauled Toney in the 2nd affair.

Virchis is not in anyway comparable to Peter, Odo just nuthugs eastern european fighters like many Americans only nuthug American fighters. Him overrating a glorified journeyman like Virchis, whom if was a western fighter he wouldn't care about by the way, is no surprise.

I have seen plenty of Virchis' fights ,too.As I said he doesnt look good against fast movers,but he looks great against stationary targets.
He knocked out Serin in one round(Danny Williams,Konstantin Onofrei-who beat Wlad at the amateurs,or Monse-who almost knocked out Luan Krasniqui couldnt do that),he brutally took out Virchis(who beat Sprott,Timo Hoffman,Coc,and so on),he lost a mayority decision to Chagaev(most ring observers had him ahead on points against Chagaev),he defeated Algerian olympian Chaaoune as well as Julius Francis,impressively knocked out Balu Zaur,and so on.
IMO Virchis deserves a title shot,and a bit of nuthugging-hehe!
Of course I root for any fighter from neighbouring Ukraine.
Besides Virchis vs Bidenko was the most exciting,entertaining,and dramatic heavy weight fight I have seen within the last couple of years.
In the same league with Lyakhovich vs Brewster.
I cant say the same about Peter.I have never seen an outstanding fight with him.Admittingly, I havent seen all of his fights.

[brooklyn1550]

imo toney would not easliy outbox virchis, maybe when toney first moved up to hw not this toney im sorry... this love affair wit sam peter makes me laugh u guys will see :lol: :lol:

The love affair with Maskaev and Virchis by Eastern Europeans will end soon

[Amsterdam]

The love affair with Maskaev and Virchis by Eastern Europeans will end soon

It's all ethno-centric, if Maskaev and Virchis were Americans, they'd have much less of a fanbase.

[Odo]

It's all ethno-centric, if Maskaev and Virchis were Americans, they'd have much less of a fanbase.

Bah! It's all ethno-centric,if Peter and Toney were not American or American-based they'd have much less of a fanbase.Thats for sure!
If Peter were based in europe he would never have fought Toney or any other recognisable fighter.I guess that he would be more or less on Vidoz's level right now.
Due to the power of American tv and American promoters in the paid ranks it is still much easier for an American or American based African to reach the upper echelon of any weight division than it is for a Russian,Ukrainian,Belarussian,or any other non-westerner.
Luckily,the German box market is getting bigger and bigger so that fighters of countries of former soviet union can make a decent living there.

[Odo]

The love affair with Maskaev and Virchis by Eastern Europeans will end soon

You are wrong,brooklyn!

The love affiar with that limited and slow American based African Sam Peter by some Americans will end soon.
Old but still capable Oleg Maskaev will expose that overrated and overhyped African who had two very lame fights with that fat dwarf Toney who was barely able to beat American journeyman Batchelder in his last outing to a ring.
Dimitrenko stopped Batchelder in his last outing to a ring.
Damn! I dont get it why so many Americans are in love with Sam Peter.
Even Paolo Vidoz stopped him at the olympics and kicked him out of the tournament.
Vidoz would probably kick Sam's ass against at the pros.The African is totally overrated IMO.