View Full Version : Greatest Amature that will never turn Pro
jaycuban
07-11-2007, 04:23 PM
Guillermo Rigondeaux
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kg0208
07-11-2007, 04:24 PM
My guess is he is Cuban.
jaycuban
07-11-2007, 04:27 PM
My guess is he is Cuban..
you got it.
brooklyn1550
07-11-2007, 04:28 PM
Hopefully he finds a way to leave Cuba
jaycuban
07-11-2007, 04:41 PM
How did you hear about this guy?
GOOGLE HIM
he already has 2 olympic gold medals.
freddy-wak
07-11-2007, 04:47 PM
he needs'to escape like them other 2 cubans....
freddy-wak
07-11-2007, 04:50 PM
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jaycuban
07-11-2007, 04:53 PM
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i mean olympic fights
Dennis
07-11-2007, 04:57 PM
Récord Amateur: 247 fights; 243+, 4-
2000, Sydney: Bantamweight Olympic Champion.
2001, Belfast: Bantamweight Senior Amateur World Champion.
2001, Brisbane - Oro en los Juegos de Buena Voluntad.
2002, Astana - Primer lugar en la Copa Mundial de Boxeo.
2003, Santo Domingo: Bantamweight Panamerican Games Champion.
2004, Atenas: Bantamweight Olympic Champion.
2005, Teresópolis: Bantamweight Panamerican Champion.
2005, Myangyang: Bantamweight Senior Amateur World Champion.
2006, Cartagena de Indias - Oro en los Juegos Centroamericanos y del Caribe.
2006, Bakú - Primer lugar en la Copa de Naciones.
Siete veces campeón nacional cubano de 2000 a 2006
His losses were back in '98 and '99 and 1 loss in 2003...he's been undefeated since then.:scaredas:
guillermojm
07-11-2007, 04:59 PM
its sad how many great fighters are stuck in that country..... if that asshole would let them leave cuban would really make a diffrence in boxing
this is the medal count for boxing in the 2004 olympics
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and remember those boxers are the ones he knows wont leave its not even the best fighters
joe namath's gin
07-11-2007, 05:01 PM
its sad how many great fighters are stuck in that country..... if that asshole would let them leave cuban would really make a diffrence in boxing
why would they want to leave? they are treated like kings in cuba, get the best cuban pussy, cigars, and homes.
fidel treats his loyal athletes like gold... that's why so many don't defect.
guillermojm
07-11-2007, 05:12 PM
why would they want to leave? they are treated like kings in cuba, get the best cuban pussy, cigars, and homes.
fidel treats his loyal athletes like gold... that's why so many don't defect.
sorry man but your so wrong...
living like a "king" in cuba is less then a lower class family here.
you may think they live it up and they do to there standards but nothing compared to ours plus you have to do what he tells you and fight who he tells you to fight you dont have a fucking choice what you do, you cant watch any tv other then what they let you watch which is mostly fidel talking crap, when you leave the country you cant leave your hotel room and tvs arnt allowed in the room.... and if you do find a way to leave the country he puts your family in jail.....
trust me i have been to that country and i have seen how people live...
anyways here is a cool lil article i found
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joe namath's gin
07-11-2007, 05:15 PM
sorry man but your so wrong...
living like a "king" in cuba is less then a lower class family here.
you may think they live it up and they do to there standards but nothing compared to ours plus you have to do what he tells you and fight who he tells you to fight you dont have a fucking choice what you do, you cant watch any tv other then what they let you watch which is mostly fidel talking crap, when you leave the country you cant leave your hotel room and tvs arnt allowed in the room.... and if you do find a way to leave the country he puts your family in jail.....
trust me i have been to that country and i have seen how people live...
anyways here is a cool lil article i found
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i hear you . good stuff... :good
Gabriel R.
07-11-2007, 05:18 PM
There have been more than one highly talented boxers who escaped Cuba to become professional, but never had true success, for example Gonzalez and even J.C. Gomez. You know, Cuba is a poor county. It looks like if those Cubans come to the capitalistic world, they lose control of their lifes. They eat and drink like crazy and become fat and lazy.
Pimp C
07-11-2007, 05:22 PM
Damn shame Castro won't let some of his talented fighters turn pro.
Hawks28
07-11-2007, 07:31 PM
shit, as soon as I saw the title of the thread I was gonna come in and mention him, but obviously he is the subject of the thread. I was really impressed with him at the last olympics. I believe he is boxing at the Pan-Am games which start on Friday. He should add another gold medal to the collection. Hopefully some of the boxing is televised, but I wont get my hopes up.
Rigondeaux, probably. If Rau'shee ****** decides to be a career amateur he could become a great one as he hits his physical prime, he gave Guillerimo a fairly close fight at some tournament recently. They quoted Rigondeux as saying it was the hardest fight he'd had in years.
stake501
07-11-2007, 09:16 PM
Rigondeaux would beat marquez after 10 pro fights at featherweight....
but the best amateur thata will never turn pro is Super Mario Kindelan
Now he is a boxer...
bandeedo
07-11-2007, 10:32 PM
the greatest amateur who never turned pro is allready retired and his name is teofilo stevens
freddy-wak
07-12-2007, 01:26 AM
well, casa escaped over here and he aint no ATG...i bet the same would be said about him if he stayed over there
stake501
07-12-2007, 06:33 AM
Casamayor was never an ATG amateur, he was a good am, not in the class of Stevens, Savon, Kindelan, or even Rigondeaux, in any aspect.
kindelan used to outbox Casamayor all the time when they sparred.
jaycuban
07-12-2007, 09:29 AM
Rigondeaux i think will be cubas best boxer, if he continues doing what he is doing... this guy is amazing, his skill levels are unbelievable, and his stamina is crazy... he is truly a natural and expert fighter, i dont see anybody in the amatures ever beating him, and he ever turns pro i would honestly think the same thing.
Vantage_West
07-12-2007, 11:18 AM
its sad how many great fighters are stuck in that country..... if that asshole would let them leave cuban would really make a diffrence in boxing
this is the medal count for boxing in the 2004 olympics
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and remember those boxers are the ones he knows wont leave its not even the best fightersthey do have the privilage but not alowed to return. and if they are in the team they are in no way alowed to leave a wieght division empty.
Vantage_West
07-12-2007, 11:24 AM
Casamayor was never an ATG amateur, he was a good am, not in the class of Stevens, Savon, Kindelan, or even Rigondeaux, in any aspect.
kindelan used to outbox Casamayor all the time when they sparred.yeah but casamayor was a junior bantam:think
thats five divisons above him...do you expect a middlewieght fighting a heavy...and beaing able to beat him especcialy with the likes of the pound 4 pound am in the world.
casa was a great amateur he rarely lost never knokced out always came to fight and was damn fun to watch even if it was in the olympics. he left after he had just won a medal.it's unfair to say that a man who has only been in one olympic event (and came out on top) is equal to the likes of stevenson savon and kindelan...when they have gone to 3 events...have fought the best and won world amatuer titles in between.
Killer_Fish
07-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Casamayor was never an ATG amateur, he was a good am, not in the class of Stevens, Savon, Kindelan, or even Rigondeaux, in any aspect.
kindelan used to outbox Casamayor all the time when they sparred.
Such a pity too, I remember watching Felix Savon in the summer olympics and he would destroy all his opponents.
Vantage_West
10-22-2007, 07:14 PM
there is a guy called jerome thomas of france maybe not the greatest but the guy has bags of talent and punching power and abilty to throw combo's of a high standard compared to most amatuers.
he has 2 silver medels and has now at 24 years of age at a turning poitn of either goign pro or staying am has decided that amatuers are the way for him...a real shame becuase i think in the grand scheme of things becuase he would of been a good french fighter and very possibly been a champion(well im certain he would of been a champion)
jaycuban
10-22-2007, 07:59 PM
there is a guy called jerome thomas of france maybe not the greatest but the guy has bags of talent and punching power and abilty to throw combo's of a high standard compared to most amatuers.
he has 2 silver medels and has now at 24 years of age at a turning poitn of either goign pro or staying am has decided that amatuers are the way for him...a real shame becuase i think in the grand scheme of things becuase he would of been a good french fighter and very possibly been a champion(well im certain he would of been a champion)
Yuriorkis Gamboa beat hm in 2004 Olympic for the gold medal
dangerousity
10-22-2007, 08:24 PM
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That fight seemed like fastforward.
Vantage_West
10-22-2007, 08:24 PM
Yuriorkis Gamboa beat hm in 2004 Olympic for the gold medal:roll: what am i suppose to say he did get a silver medel 2 times out that means he didnt win the gold medel thus meaning he had to lose well done for noticing he lost to gamboa....anyways this should add to gamboa's cred
jaycuban
02-10-2010, 12:04 PM
bump lol
haglerwon
02-10-2010, 12:19 PM
Used to love watching Felix Savon when I was younger. Always wondered how he'd have done if he'd have made it to the pros. 362-21 is nothing to be sniffed at.
Seanplfc
02-10-2010, 12:39 PM
Roberto Cammarelle
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I was reading about this big Italian guy the other week and this thread brought it back to mind. Looks a good-un.. and has a look of the Klitchko bros?!
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So happy this recent waive of Cuban boxers is getting the chance to showcase their talent. Of all i'm most excited about Gamboa...kids amazing!
PR BOXING
02-20-2010, 09:38 PM
Mario kindelan
Silvermags
02-21-2010, 01:38 AM
teofilo stevenson. cuban heavyweight champion
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