Sam Peter vs Vladimir Virchis might happen!

[Vincent Gottschalk]

Looks like Maskeav won't sign for the fight so Peter might fight Virchis for a interm title in truth I like this fight better:good

[brooklyn1550]

Why wont Maskaev sign? What does he plan to do?

Virchis-Peter would be a slugfest - Peter by UD

I thought McCall was the number 1 challenger

[Heavyrighthand]

Oh, my GOD, this Maskaev Peter thing has to be the biggest crock of horsesh*t since King wrote up a contract for Tim Whitherspoon to sign.

[Heavyrighthand]

Don't overlook Peter vs McCall.
His manager told me this is very possible as Maskaev might drop the belt.

Oh, HELL yeah!

Does this mean what you were hinting at, before, Novira!

:good

[Shpion]

Oh, my GOD, this Maskaev Peter thing has to be the biggest crock of horseshit since King wrote up a contract for Tim Whitherspoon to sign.

No kidding. I just hope somebody fights somebody already.:patsch

[Shpion]

Looks like Maskeav won't sign for the fight so Peter might fight Virchis for a interm title in truth I like this fight better:good

If it happens, it could qualify for the FOTY in HW.

[vonBanditos]

The negotiating between these two guys is just getting stupid. How difficult is it for them to make a deal to fight? Neither of them are popular enough to warrant this kind of ego.

[jopez707]

WHy Would MAskaev drop the belt? His earning power has never been greater, whoever he fights either Peter or V. Klitschko he is most likely going to lose. He has a better chance against Peter (though I think he still would get ko'd), as Champion I believe he is guaranteed at least 60% of the purse. WHat his problem?

[vonBanditos]

WHy Would MAskaev drop the belt? His earning power has never been greater, whoever he fights either Peter or V. Klitschko he is most likely going to lose. He has a better chance against Peter (though I think he still would get ko'd), as Champion I believe he is guaranteed at least 60% of the purse. WHat his problem?

Surprisingly, The WBC decided to make it 55%/45%.

[achillesthegreat]

Fuck that. Give Peter his fight and strip Maskaev.

[Vincent Gottschalk]

So who does this mean Peter fights next Who? :huh Vitali?:huh Virchis:huh McCall?:huh And what is Maskeav going too do fight Wladimir?:huh

[Shpion]

:yep
Yea just i spoke to OM's manager and he said now they are looking at Virchis or Holy.

So i just sorta forgot about it but that is what might happen now.

OM's manager said Maskaev would drop the belt and fight Vitali (taht was my original thing but now it doesn't seem possible so i can just tell you) and Peter would fight Oliver on the Ibrag vs Chag undercard.

So is Vitaly still next in line for that WBC "Joke" belt?

[brooklyn1550]

This WBC sega is pissing everybody off. Just when it seems a fight is in line, something else comes up.

[Shpion]

Fuck that. Give Peter his fight and strip Maskaev.

Give Peter his fight with whom???

[Heavyrighthand]

WHy Would MAskaev drop the belt? His earning power has never been greater, whoever he fights either Peter or V. Klitschko he is most likely going to lose.

I think Maskaev knows a payday against either K bro, belt at stake or not, would eclipse what he'd make with a fight with Peter.

[Mendoza]

Looks like Maskeav won't sign for the fight so Peter might fight Virchis for a interm title in truth I like this fight better:good

This is strange news.

[Heavyrighthand]

:yep
Yea just i spoke to OM's manager and he said now they are looking at Virchis or Holy.

.

Virchis or Holy are being considered for Peter to fight for the possibly vacated title, correct?

Then if Vitali is already signed to fight McCline, and the press conference date is already set, I guess the only fighter that Maskaev would dump his belt in order to fight would be Wlad.

Is that what they are considering with all this talk of vacating the title?

[brooklyn1550]

Virchis or Holy are being considered for Peter to fight for the possibly vacated title, correct?

Then if Vitali is already signed to fight McCline, and the press conference date is already set, I guess the only fighter that Maskaev would dump his belt in order to fight would be Wlad.

Is that what they are considering with all this talk of vacating the title?

Is Holyfield in on the WBC thing now?:huh

[Shpion]

Virchis or Holy are being considered for Peter to fight for the possibly vacated title, correct?

Then if Vitali is already signed to fight McCline, and the press conference date is already set, I guess the only fighter that Maskaev would dump his belt in order to fight would be Wlad.

Is that what they are considering with all this talk of vacating the title?

That makes sense but this is another stupid move by OM's management. Instead of leting OM fight Vlad for the unification and have some negotiation leverage, they let him fight Okhelo. Now he will get like 10% of the purse if Vlad agrees to fight him.

[achillesthegreat]

Give Peter his fight with whom???
With Maskaev of course. If Peter doesn't get the WBC fight he should take them to cour. Since when does a man have to go through what is in effect THREE eliminators!

[Shpion]

With Maskaev of course. If Peter doesn't get the WBC fight he should take them to cour. Since when does a man have to go through what is in effect THREE eliminators!

But from what I understood from this fucking mess is that OM does not want to fight for the 55/45 split. So who should Peter fight in that case?

[Ted Stickles]

I hope he fight Evander because i think evander meats Maskaev, that would be hysterical, and fuck it Evander has been a great fighter his whole career ,he aways comes to fight and is always in shape and has given all fight fans a lot of thrills over the years so i say give him his final hurrah....

[Heavyrighthand]

I know just enough to know I am really confused, now.


The only thing I am clear on is that Maskaev don't seem to want to fight Peter for such a low percentage. That's the only part I have got straight.

The rest is one big bird's nest. :blood

[Batsch]

:yep
Yea just i spoke to OM's manager and he said now they are looking at Virchis or Holy.

So i just sorta forgot about it but that is what might happen now.

OM's manager said Maskaev would drop the belt and fight Vitali (taht was my original thing but now it doesn't seem possible so i can just tell you) and Peter would fight Oliver on the Ibrag vs Chag undercard.

Could you tell me why Vitali should fight a beltless Maskaev? Thats just wasting time for Klitschko.

BTW I would prefer Peter-virchis to Peter-McCall.



Virchis is a big slugger with good chin and big punch but no boxing skills.

But somehow I wanna puke about these politics. Usually the WBC should strip Maskaev and give all the people the fight most wanna see: Sam Peter vs. Vitali Klitschko for the vacant WBC-Title.

[Heavyrighthand]

Nah for McCall to fight VV or EH.
They are saying EH is not really keen on it.
I think McCall vs Holyfield would be fuckin A but what do i know :nut

So McCall is being considered to fight either Holy or Virchis to become Peter's WBC mandatory, and Peter will be given the title if Maskaev dumps it?

I'd think they'd have to just give Peter the title, cause noone else is in the position to fight Peter for the vacated title, seeing as how Vitali is now a go with McCline..................unless Vitali could pull the plug on the fight with McCline and fight Peter for the strap, with no tuneup, whatsoever.

[Ambition_Def]

No fuckin idea.

Bro people are getting on my jock for criticizing Maskaev's team.

I really don't need to do any work as they are basically sinking their own ship.:roll:

You ain't kiddin.

He drops that belt and he gets bitch title from me for life.

Fucking coward. We all knew he was afraid of Sam but a bitch move like this sets it in stone.

[The Tuaman]

Basically at this stage of Maskaevs career its money not belts that have the final say. Lets face it another loss and Maskaev is done, I think its safe to say either Klit Bro or Peter would beat Maskaev right now so for him its probably comming down to where hes going to get the most money, and for me it would be fighting one of then klit brothers most likely Wladimir in Europe for the IBF title. I think hes holding out as long as he can to see where the most $$$ signs will come from, and to be honest I cant blame him hes had a tough career and made it back to where he is now after most people thaught he was gone! But at the same time the major governing bodies shouldnt let fighters hold their belts ransom! After a fighter wins the title they should be allowed one optional defence 90 days after winning the title if they are fit and healthy, once the 90 days is up and if they havent taken their optioal they should then fight their mandatory within 90 days no excuses or be stripped! Simple as that.

Peter VS McCall would be a good WBC title fight if Masakev is stripped or vacates! Both guys deserve it especially McCall IMO

Holyfield is on the scene probably sensing Maskaev will vacate and he can claim on of the Vacant title fight positions!

[Shpion]

You ain't kiddin.

He drops that belt and he gets bitch title from me for life.

Fucking coward. We all knew he was afraid of Sam but a bitch move like this sets it in stone.

I am actually leaning towards the incomptence of his management rather than being scared. Neither Maskaev nor Peter are draws, so a 55/45 split would not be a payday for the old OM, who would most likely lose to Peter. If he fights either Klitschko he will get more money. That being said, it is his own faullt that instead of unifying he fought Okhelo and now he is paying for it.

[Rock0052]

This would never happen, but if Oleg won't fight Peter, they should strip him and have a Wlad-Peter unification (and rematch) fight to kill two birds with one stone- straighten out the WBC mess and get 2 belts with one fighter, setting the stage for a superfight with the Ibragimov-Chagaev winner.

It wouldn't happen, but a fan can dream.

[Asterion]

Who the fuck cares if Mask vacates the belt?

He beat SSS and Rahman and still would deserve to be a Top5 contender! And a win over him would still be a legit win over a top contender! :yep

[Grabonator]

Why wont Maskaev sign? What does he plan to do?

Virchis-Peter would be a slugfest - Peter by UD

I thought McCall was the number 1 challenger

Why wont Maskaev team sign?? Because THEY ARE SHITTING THEMSELFES!!! They are afraid and know they cant win this!! Maskaev team sucks!! IT SUCKS!!!

[jopez707]

I think its time for old Oleg to ride off into the sunset, he is not good for the division. Being one of the worst title holders in history, he didnt deserve the shot in the first place. At any rate he was given a gimmee in his first defense and hasnt done anything in like 8 months, the Heavyweight Division cant afford to allow this kind of inactivity from one of its beltholders. By the time he does fight whether it against Peter for his title or against one of the Klitschko without a title (unless its Wlad); he probably will not have fought in about a year. When he loses in his next fight, I will say Adios to Oleg.

[Heavyrighthand]

On the surface, knowing no more than we do, it does seem like Maskaev and Rappaport are rather unwilling to fight Peter, but we don't know the particulars, at least not all of them.

Personally, from what we know, thus far, I think it looks like Maskaev and Rappaport are not very confident in Oleg's ability to hold onto the title against Peter, Vitali, Wlad, whomever, so they are looking to fight the one that will bring Oleg the most money on what may be his last big fight.

That's my take on it, anyway. I hope we hear more on it soon, though, cause I think Virchis Peter would be a great fight, to say the least. Virchis McCall would also probably be pretty good. McCall Holy would also be a very watchable fight.

[Armo_Ruski]

hate to rain on the parade but oleg is not the youngest man anymore, business wise why on earth should oleg accept a 55/45 purse??? who is sam peter? a former champ? umm no... i would love to have seen oleg vs. peter as im one of the few who believes he would win it, but the purse bein offered IMO is an embarassment. thats almost a spilt purse and oleg is the WBC champ the other guy is sam peter!!!

[brooklyn1550]

This just proves that Maskaev is scared to death of Sam Peter. The WBC should take this guy's title away for all the bullshit he comes up with.

:good The WBC should strip him and have Peter fight the number 2 contender. Maskaev would get KO'd by Peter and Vitali, so he's trying to go where the money is.

[A-50]

What about this:

Maskaev drops the WBC belt but then fights Wlad for the Ring Magazine Belt? Wonder if this senario is possible and I wonder if the Ring would make their #1 vs #3 exception for this fight?

Thoughts?

[brooklyn1550]

What about this:

Maskaev drops the WBC belt but then fights Wlad for the Ring Magazine Belt? Wonder if this senario is possible and I wonder if the Ring would make their #1 vs #3 exception for this fight?

Thoughts?

Not a bad idea

[cross_trainer]

Ideally, Maskaev faces Wlad, Peter faces Virchis (winner to face Vitali), Chagaev and Ibragimov finish their business, and the survivors unify.

[Asterion]

What source says that Maskaev is going to drop the belt? :huh

[brooklyn1550]

What source says that Maskaev is going to drop the belt? :huh

None that I've actually read -all I've heard from Fight News is that he may not sign the contract to face Peter.

[Heavyrighthand]

What about this:

Maskaev drops the WBC belt but then fights Wlad for the Ring Magazine Belt? Wonder if this senario is possible and I wonder if the Ring would make their #1 vs #3 exception for this fight?

Thoughts?

That's what I was thinking that Maskaev had in mind when he was considering dumping his title. And it does make all kind of sense, cause while Maskaev would not have possession of the title, he'd still be the man who won it in the ring, so Oleg vs. Wlad would indeed, really be a unification fight for the IBF and WBC.

I hope that's what they have planned. Maskaev would also make the most money against Wlad, and it'd also screw King, but good, cause the belt that Peter would fight the number one contender for, would be even more worthless than the fractured belts, are, now. :good

[Cruiser1]

I wonder if Oleg would have signed the contract if Peter Okhello was his mandatory.

[Shotgun]

They are trying to fuck Oleg over. They make a special exception and make the purse split 55-45 instead of the customary 75-25 split, which is ridiculous. Sam Peter is not a big draw and never has been. This might be Oleg's last chance for a big payday, he deserves to get paid the 75% like every other champ gets in a purse bid situation. Oleg's doing the right thing by refusing to cave in to this sanctioning body that's trying to take money out of his pocket

[Cruiser1]

They are trying to fuck Oleg over. They make a special exception and make the purse split 55-45 instead of the customary 75-25 split, which is ridiculous. Sam Peter is not a big draw and never has been. This might be Oleg's last chance for a big payday, he deserves to get paid the 75% like every other champ gets in a purse bid situation. Oleg's doing the right thing by refusing to cave in to this sanctioning body that's trying to take money out of his pocket

Well, since he's basically borrowing the belt and will lose it the moment he faces anyone decent he does deserve to cash out.

[Heavyrighthand]

I don't see why they went ahead and got the Showtime date set, announced the fight as a go, only to find out that Maskaev has not even signed anything, yet.

Especially after having so many false starts from this whole thing, already.

[BoxingGuru]

I think it's hilarious. The best part is by the time Scam Cheater fights he'll be about 37 since we all know he gave a fake age.

[Shotgun]

They are trying to fuck Oleg over?:roll:

Oleg goes to Moscow to fight some bum and granted its ok from the business end how does that bout justify OM getting good money?

Peter is the draw in Vegas. In fact that is the only thing Peter has going for him is that he is a draw.


If the fight was in Moscow i would understand your point.

No, you should understand the point anyway. Don King and Dino Duva were crying about the WBC's rules with the champion emeritus and threatened legal action if Vitali fought Maskaev before Peter. Then the WBC turns around and bends over, lubes themselves up for King and Duva by making an exception to the standard 75-25 split. It's bullshit

Oleg should dump the belt and just fight Wlad in Moscow or Germany October for the Ring championship.

[Heavyrighthand]

Oleg should dump the belt and just fight Wlad in Moscow or Germany October for the Ring championship.:smoke