Simpson v Morris III is on!

[achillesthegreat]

For the British title. Now Morris can exact his revenge, his rightful revenge. He deserves the third fight, he was the superior fighter in the rematch.

[micky]

This is not an anti Simpson poster here because I like John as a boxer and think he has great heart and commitment and plenty of skills, but I wonder can he actually win this other than another injury retirement for Morris, just cannot see it

Morris clear points win unless anyone can see any differently

Micky

[victorhugo4222]

John has every chance of winning this fight and cant wait to prove everyone wrong that the only reason he won last time was through the cut. Johns plan was to work the body and wear morris down and if you watch the fight again you will notice it was working morris was starting to tire john would have stopped morris even if he didnt have the cut and thats exactly what he will be do again. Morris is a big featherweight and struggles to make the weight so its the obvious way to beat him. In there 1st fight everyone seems to forget john had the flu and shouldnt have even been in the ring that night. I had £100 on john at 7/1 last time and ill be doing the same again!!!

[achillesthegreat]

This is not an anti Simpson poster here because I like John as a boxer and think he has great heart and commitment and plenty of skills, but I wonder can he actually win this other than another injury retirement for Morris, just cannot see it

Morris clear points win unless anyone can see any differently

Micky
If Simpson wins I will consider it VERY impressive. Morris is his superior and that was in the rematch too. In the rematch Morris was sharp as shit. Simpson got the injury win and got lucky.

[victorhugo4222]

John has every chance of winning this fight and cant wait to prove everyone wrong that the only reason he won last time was through the cut. Johns plan was to work the body and wear morris down and if you watch the fight again you will notice it was working morris was starting to tire john would have stopped morris even if he didnt have the cut and thats exactly what he will be do again. Morris is a big featherweight and struggles to make the weight so its the obvious way to beat him. In there 1st fight everyone seems to forget john had the flu and shouldnt have even been in the ring that night. I had £100 on john at 7/1 last time and ill be doing the same again!!!

[micky]

See this is what I find fascinating you two guys have both seen the
second fight from totally different views. One says Morris was on top the other says Simpson was, one of you guys is obviously wrong, problem being I don't know which one.

Anyone see the second fight and could let me know how it was going prior to the stoppage.

Was Simpson lucky or was he in fact getting the upper hand with the body attack.

Think this is a good fight but having seen the first fight only naturally heavily favour Morris but if that was negated by the second one then will save a good few bob and just watch the fight rather than bet on it.

Thanks for all the comments guys

Micky

[achillesthegreat]

Morris was ripping Simpson up to head, to body, with the jab, with combos, with everything. I think he probably won every round too.

I would need to watch it again to see if Simpson was putting a game plan into effect i.e. wearing him down.

[micky]

Think this will also be on Setanta as one of ******s new shows

Micky

[Max Molyneux]

Morris was ripping Simpson up to head, to body, with the jab, with combos, with everything. I think he probably won every round too.

I would need to watch it again to see if Simpson was putting a game plan into effect i.e. wearing him down.

I only gave Simpson the round where he cut Morris.

[micky]

I only gave Simpson the round where he cut Morris.

Thanks Max, thats interesting but did Morris look to you like he was tiring due to the body attack or was it simply the case of being cut took him out of stride.

Micky

[victorhugo4222]

See this is what I find fascinating you two guys have both seen the
second fight from totally different views. One says Morris was on top the other says Simpson was, one of you guys is obviously wrong, problem being I don't know which one.

Anyone see the second fight and could let me know how it was going prior to the stoppage.

Was Simpson lucky or was he in fact getting the upper hand with the body attack.

Think this is a good fight but having seen the first fight only naturally heavily favour Morris but if that was negated by the second one then will save a good few bob and just watch the fight rather than bet on it.

Thanks for all the comments guys

Micky

The first fight morris won easily fair and square John had the flu going into the fight but isnt usung that as an excuse the better man won. the 2nd fight John knew he wasnt going to get a points decision doen there so only way he couls stop morris was to wear him down which if you watch the fight again even before morris was cut he seemed to tire. yeah it shouldnt have been stopped so early everyone knows that but was time john got a bit of luck he deserves it especially after the dazzo williams fight were he was robbed. the thing alot of people dont realise johns confidence is now sky high after actually winning the title then defending it and also how well he perfomred against derry matthews hes a very different fighter to the 1 who faced morris 2nd time round. he has been working alot on his power now as you would have seen against ryan barrett if any of yous have seen the fight. this 3rd fight is going ot be alot different to the 1st 2 fights and i promise you will see a different simpson. you heard it here 1st.

[victorhugo4222]

Think this will also be on Setanta as one of ******s new shows

Micky

Yeah micky your right this will be the 1st of ******s shows on setanta will be on the 7th september down in london in i think its the hilton hotel its some charity show that****** does every year.

this will be johns 2nd defence and not 1 of them has been on a proper show never mind even up here in scotland i think its shocking that a champion cant even get to defend his title in his own country! his 1st defence was some dinner show and now this??? if this was morris, matthews or foster jr they would be able to defend it in there home towns respectively.

[victorhugo4222]

did anyone see how morris looked against thorpe at the weekend???

[Max Molyneux]

Thanks Max, thats interesting but did Morris look to you like he was tiring due to the body attack or was it simply the case of being cut took him out of stride.

Micky

He could of been tiring. There Is a case for It.

I don't know why Andy Is a featherweight when he was a lightweight as an amateur though according to Duke.

[victorhugo4222]

He could of been tiring. There Is a case for It.

I don't know why Andy Is a featherweight when he was a lightweight as an amateur though according to Duke.

yeah he is a very big featherweight and he does seem to tire as the fight goes on the same happened when he fought rendall munroe. its just the usual with some people on here they only see what they want to see. if you watch the fight you will see he is def starting to tire and that was due to the fact john was working the body.

[Max Molyneux]

Bodypunches are best to use even more when the opponent Is looking drained for the weight.

[victorhugo4222]

Bodypunches are best to use even more when the opponent Is looking drained for the weight.

that was johns tactics last time and they were working but everyone just likes to blame the cut for morris's loss rather than give john the credit hes due.

[Dunky McCafferty]

that was johns tactics last time and they were working but everyone just likes to blame the cut for morris's loss rather than give john the credit hes due.

Nice avatar Hugo my good man:good

Its an absolute joke that everyone makes the cut excuse for Morris losing that fight, Simpson was killing Morris to the body & Morris was lucky he got cut, cos he was going to be stopped in the next two rounds anyway if the fight hadnt been waved off.

[achillesthegreat]

Let's not get delusional Dunky. Simpson may have been breaking him down but Morris was ripping him up and did not look in ANY danger of being stopped in the next two rounds.

[pambele]

Dunky is flaky. Morris was clearly bossing John and was unlucky to lose his title and his unbeaten record, although the shots that opened the cut were superb. Dunky should be concentrating on those shots - not this mysterious body attack in the mists of The Bermuda Triangle.

[victorhugo4222]

A miscalculation lead to Andy missing the weight for the remtach but he walked it off fairly easily and was bossing the fight.

Andy was tired of people saying he is a Wil o' the Wisp type mover so wanted to bang a bit more in the rematch but he got caught, one of the few times he was, and cut. People say he cannot move on the basis of the rematch but he can, he wanted to show his power more.

Simpsons corner were shouting at the ref saying Andy could be blinded and the ref made a poor/weak call on the night.

Cancelations coupled with niggling injuries have seen Andy train almost non-stop since Simpson I without him having many fights.

He was in the gym right after Thorpe and when asked when he's taking a break he says he is counting the days until Simpson and just wants to make-up for lost time thereafter.

Well you can let him know hes not the only 1 counting the days to this fight John is raring to go and prove to everyone that last fight wasnt a fluke.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Let's not get delusional Dunky. Simpson may have been breaking him down but Morris was ripping him up and did not look in ANY danger of being stopped in the next two rounds.

Dunky dont do delusional Achilles my man, its obviously a case of who was breaking down & who was ripping up the most, & I am in the Simpson breaking down camp:deal

Looks like its gonna all come down to the final matchup, but as usual you englanders have it in your favour, down in Engerlund with a englander ref... But like the Murphys, Im not bitter.

But my moneys still on wee Simmie to stop Morris.

[achillesthegreat]

Simpson was 4-0 so had already dug himself a grave. Maybe he was investing in shots but it hadn't taken his toll yet.

I'm so stupid, Simpson is Scottish, of course you are going to say what you say.

[Max Molyneux]

In England with an English ref? The Scots are getting their excuses in early aren't they?

Shame they had their valid excuses when It was Simpson Vs Matthews though.:|

Damn that dirty Derry.:|

[victorhugo4222]

We'll see but they've shared plenty of round so far and Andy has o*t-boxed and out-hit Simpson.

A good combination of shots opening a cut-eye got Simpson a good win last time out but there was no suggestion he is the better fighter during those two bouts.

In England with an English ref? The Scots are getting their excuses in early aren't they?

theres a few factors that you are missing though that are different from the 1st 2 fights.

1. Confidence - ive known John for a very long time and after the dazzo williams fight his confidence took a big knock as he thought his big chance had gone. fair enough he got another crack at it against morris at braehead but he wasnt the same fighter i had seen many times before. Also he had the flu the week of the fight and didnt perform to the best of his abilities now he isnt using that as an excuse the better fighter won on the night as morris dominated from start to finish but his confidence took another massive blow.

2. Morris has now tasted defeat for the 1st time and that can work 2 ways with a fighter either spur them on never to taste it again or it can play on there mind especially when they guy you are facing is the only guy to ever beat you so will be interesting to see how morris reacts and you cant judge him against Thorpe as hes already beat him twie before and morris was never going to be in any doubt. Also John now knows hes beat morris once so why cant he do it again? once again it all comes down to Johns confidence. He also performed really well aginst 'dirty' derry matthews and i really think if john hadnt sustained the cut he would have went on to win the fight so he gained even more confidence from that fight despite the loss as we all know it was alot closer than the judges scorecards sugested. ( as we al know there was something dodgy about the scores as they didnt add up! )

3. John has also been working really hard on his power and this was evident of the ryan barrett fight. We all know barrett isnt the best but at least it was a stoppage and not just one good punch or combo that won hm the fight his body punches were hurting barrett from the 1st bell.

John is raring to go for this fight and believe me seeing him in the gym i know you are going to see a different John Simpson from the 1 you have seen in the 1st 2 fights.

[Dunky McCafferty]

I'm so stupid, Simpson is Scottish, of course you are going to say what you say.

:lol:

Damn right:smoke

[victorhugo4222]

We'll see. John seemed to find Andy harder to handle in the second fight so his improvement cannot have been that great. You say he was working the body over and that would take effect late in the fight but that never transpired so we only have your word for it. What we did see was Andy improving from his display in fight one, a combination of shots opening a cut aside.

If Simpsons confidence was knocked against Dazzo and he felt his big chance had gone why did he not perform better in the first fight with Morris when given a chance? You can say he has flu (despite not wanting to make excuses) but he was ********* comprehensively. A flu virus is not going to boost Andy's technique, he was better than John in the first fight.

Andy will come back strong from the defeat and you say that if it wasn't for the cut Simpson would have won the fight with Derry and you are saying Derry cheated with the possible compliance of the scorecards. Another excuse.

After Andy complained about the cuts stoppage team Simpson came out with a fairly strong stop the whingeing interview and basically said there was no room for excuses. Then an avalanche of them come out of Simpsons camp post-Derry and you are putting them in early pre-Morris III. Andy raised the, true, point that bigger cuts have been suffered by fighters and Simpson was lucky not to have the ref in his fight with Matthews. On the other hand there was no one on the ring apron screaming at the ref in that fight that one fighter could go blind and it was on his head.

I appreciate you supporting Simpson but aside from the cut he has done nothing over two-fights (so-called debilitating body-attack that never came to fruition aside) to suggest he can beat Andy at boxing or punching.

Hopefully fight III will bear this out and, in case of cuts, we get a referee who is going to let the expert, a doctor, decide if the fight should go on rather than making a rash call.

well i appreciate you supporting Morris i guess all we can do is wait till 7th sept and see. It has the makings of a good fight im looking forward to it.

1 thing though dont you think its a little unfair the defending champion cant even get a defence in his own country? I dont think it will make much of a difference to the fight i mean for the fans sake. If it was just a normal show at least that wouldnt be too bad but Johns last fight was a dinner show too its unfair on the people who have followed him his whole career as if he loses we might never get to see him fight as defending champion again as i think if he loses he wont fight again.

[Dunky McCafferty]

We'll see. John seemed to find Andy harder to handle in the second fight so his improvement cannot have been that great. You say he was working the body over and that would take effect late in the fight but that never transpired so we only have your word for it. What we did see was Andy improving from his display in fight one, a combination of shots opening a cut aside.

If Simpsons confidence was knocked against Dazzo and he felt his big chance had gone why did he not perform better in the first fight with Morris when given a chance? You can say he has flu (despite not wanting to make excuses) but he was ********* comprehensively. A flu virus is not going to boost Andy's technique, he was better than John in the first fight.

Andy will come back strong from the defeat and you say that if it wasn't for the cut Simpson would have won the fight with Derry and you are saying Derry cheated with the possible compliance of the scorecards. Another excuse.

After Andy complained about the cuts stoppage team Simpson came out with a fairly strong stop the whingeing interview and basically said there was no room for excuses. Then an avalanche of them come out of Simpsons camp post-Derry and you are putting them in early pre-Morris III. Andy raised the, true, point that bigger cuts have been suffered by fighters and Simpson was lucky not to have the ref in his fight with Matthews. On the other hand there was no one on the ring apron screaming at the ref in that fight that one fighter could go blind and it was on his head.

I appreciate you supporting Simpson but aside from the cut he has done nothing over two-fights (so-called debilitating body-attack that never came to fruition aside) to suggest he can beat Andy at boxing or punching.

Hopefully fight III will bear this out and, in case of cuts, we get a referee who is going to let the expert, a doctor, decide if the fight should go on rather than making a rash call.

& here was me thinking you & your fellow writers on that site were supposed to be impartial:lol:

Im laughing, but its a sad laugh.

[victorhugo4222]

Andy will come back strong from the defeat and you say that if it wasn't for the cut Simpson would have won the fight with Derry and you are saying Derry cheated with the possible compliance of the scorecards. Another excuse.

As for the cuts ij both fights if you remeber correctly Morris's cut was suffered throught a good combo from John in the matthews fight it was a clash of heads not to mention the fact that matthews was rubbing his gloves in the cut to open it up!!!

And also for the scorecards can you explain to me how Matthews could score 118 and 117 when he has been docked 2 points and also down in the 1st round which was a 10-8? did you even watch the fight? alot of people talk alot of sense on here but then theres people like you who just talk alot os s**t. pardon my french.

[Max Molyneux]

I had Derry 113-112 against Simpson and cared enough about the controversy to contact Derry's manager to clarify the scoring issue.

There were mistakes made in the scoring of the Matthews-Simpson bout but for a lot of people that was akin to an admission that Derry deserved to the lose the bout because it was morally wrong that the scores were messed-up. The scores were a mess but they found the right winner in the end. As a big Simpson fan you would probably be the first to admit that you would have liked John to win on merit, and he did not, rather than a scoring controversy.
I'd love the winner of Simpson Vs Morris to fight Derry.:D

[Max Molyneux]

I only saw the ITV highlights of that.:|

[victorhugo4222]

I'd love the winner of Simpson Vs Morris to fight Derry.:D
AFTER Johns beats morris he has been promised a shot at the european. they were trying to get it before the morris fight but morris and his team insisted they fight 1st which is fair enough so cant really see simpson-matthews getting it on again but could be an interesting fight between morris-matthews who do you think would win? I think morris would just have the edge would take it on a UD. the WBU would probarly be andys best bet for a belt if he loses to john as i cant see him wanting to fight Jackson Asiku for the commonwealth though it doesnt seem as if many people want to fight him.

[Max Molyneux]

Morris Is similar to Foster and had a close one against Munroe who seems average to me but decently quick. Been a while since I saw the Munroe one though.

I could see Derry out pointing Morris as long as he uses his height, reach and footwork like with Foster Jr.

[achillesthegreat]

Derry-Foster was a massacre. Not physically, but Derry just tamed him all night.

I want to see Morris beat Simpson then move on to Matthews. I'd like to see that bout.

[victorhugo4222]

Rendall is looking good and fighting regularly now Max, I've seen him live once since and he is putting more into his shots. It will be interesting as he has the ability and the stance to give most UK feathers a decent nights work.

Not sure about Derry-Morris panning out like the Foster fight. Steve gave way to the jab and allowed it to dictate to him whereas Andy can step in and land his jab on taller and even heavier fighters.

Derry used his jab perfectly that night, it was like someone beating someone down with a stick.

Its not so much about reach as stepping in with the jab. I would not mind seeing Matthews-Morris.

Foster will be in there soon as long as he puts some wins together. Hopefully one guy can make a good claim on the Lonsdale belt, defend it, then move on and give other guys a chance to box-off for it.

I saw rendall munroes last fight and he fought at super-feather i think but i think he is fighting marc callaghan next at super-bantam for the english title im sure. cant remember exactly but it was something like that anyway.

would like to see morris-derry too but for the wbu ONLY as simpson will still be holding onto his lonsdale belt. dont worry after morris 1 more defence after morris and he will prob vacate it and leave for the rest to fight off for!

[Max Molyneux]

Rendall is looking good and fighting regularly now Max, I've seen him live once since and he is putting more into his shots. It will be interesting as he has the ability and the stance to give most UK feathers a decent nights work.

Not sure about Derry-Morris panning out like the Foster fight. Steve gave way to the jab and allowed it to dictate to him whereas Andy can step in and land his jab on taller and even heavier fighters.

Derry used his jab perfectly that night, it was like someone beating someone down with a stick.

Its not so much about reach as stepping in with the jab. I would not mind seeing Matthews-Morris.

Foster will be in there soon as long as he puts some wins together. Hopefully one guy can make a good claim on the Lonsdale belt, defend it, then move on and give other guys a chance to box-off for it.

Morris does step In an out good though with combos or a jab like with Simpson 2.

The commentators reckin Munroe Is going to Super Bantam.

[achillesthegreat]

Morris is already the superior fighter. He has won one bout clearly and won every round of the second bout before an injury stopped it. Credit to Simpson for landing a punch to bring about the stoppage but Morris is the more skilled operator. Simpson has to win via intangiables.

Simpson has fought Morris twice so he may be totally different, better prepared, more experienced, better game plan etc but Morris is undoubtedly the superior fighter even if they are 1-1 on paper.

They've fought 16 rounds, Morris has lost 2.

[victorhugo4222]

Morris is already the superior fighter. He has won one bout clearly and won every round of the second bout before an injury stopped it. Credit to Simpson for landing a punch to bring about the stoppage but Morris is the more skilled operator. Simpson has to win via intangiables.

Simpson has fought Morris twice so he may be totally different, better prepared, more experienced, better game plan etc but Morris is undoubtedly the superior fighter even if they are 1-1 on paper.

They've fought 16 rounds, Morris has lost 2.
cant argue with any of that yeah morris has been the better fighter and is the superior fighter but doesnt always mean he will win. I dont know if any of yous have seen the video of the simpson-barrett fight? john looked so much sharper than ive ever seen him and hes flying in the gym ive noticed such a difference in him since both the derry fight and even more so since the barrett fight. I know i may be a bit biased but i reckon john has a really good chance with this fight.

[achillesthegreat]

I haven't seen Simpson-Barrett. Simpson does have a chance.

[muay thai chick]

Morris is already the superior fighter. He has won one bout clearly and won every round of the second bout before an injury stopped it. Credit to Simpson for landing a punch to bring about the stoppage but Morris is the more skilled operator. Simpson has to win via intangiables.

Simpson has fought Morris twice so he may be totally different, better prepared, more experienced, better game plan etc but Morris is undoubtedly the superior fighter even if they are 1-1 on paper.

They've fought 16 rounds, Morris has lost 2.




right so you actually credit simpson for something then? and wat fight were you watching when you seen morris lost 2 rounds? i had it morris won one round in the second fight n lost fair n square. this rubbish he was winning is laughable. He fought simpson 1st time n beat him nicely. He must have thought well that was easy al just prance around the ring n he wont hurt me n got a hell of a shock didnt he?? Simpson well showed his true style when he out boxed him with body shots which were tiring him out n the winning punch which secured "his title". After a shocking decision from the dazzo williams fight n then the derry matthews why dont you english actually see through this whole english vs scottish pride n see a boxer for what they can really do. Just accept he won the title fair and square and stop making excuses. and for those who say he didnt get a shock tell me why andy was sittin bubbling after the 2nd flight like abig girl?? sittin at ringside i wasnt clearly inpressed by the such macho boxer hes spose to be.

I do hold my hand up and say andys a great boxer but think the 2nd fight was only the start of johns brillaint performances and the 3rd one will be a shock to all of ur systems.

roll on september 7th will be sitin ringside and joinin john in the celebrations after.

Lets hope andy brings hankies this time.:| :|

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[achillesthegreat]

You thought Morris won one round in the rematch!!!

That's where I stopped reading.

[muay thai chick]

You thought Morris won one round in the rematch!!!

That's where I stopped reading.


i see i see you must know im right then speak to me on sept 8th.:hi: :hi:

[Max Molyneux]

This fight clashes with Witter Vs Harris!:patsch

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I love British title fights but I'm watching Witter.

[victorhugo4222]

This fight clashes with Witter Vs Harris!:patsch

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I love British title fights but I'm watching Witter.

Hopefully they will be on at different times but i think the witter fight will be pretty predictable with witter taking it by UD. alot more history between morris-simpson bit of a grudge match and alot of points to prove. should be a ******* with either late stoppage win for simpson or by UD.

[achillesthegreat]

This fight clashes with Witter Vs Harris!:patsch

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I love British title fights but I'm watching Witter.
The boxing fraternity are very stupid. They always make fights that clash with each other.

If boxing wisened up we could have a quality bout to talk about EVERY WEEK!

[victorhugo4222]

The boxing fraternity are very stupid. They always make fights that clash with each other.

If boxing wisened up we could have a quality bout to talk about EVERY WEEK!

couldnt agree more but without being biased the simpson-morris still seems a better fight to me though the witter-harris fight was 1 i have been looking forward to.