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pecks
03-10-2008, 06:11 PM
Green sizes up Jones as a warm-up for the Man
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Jamie Pandaram
March 11, 2008
DANNY GREEN plans to stage the biggest boxing event held in Australia by securing a home-town mega-bout with American Roy Jones jnr later this year.
Having already been part of the most successful boxing promotion in this country with his 2006 fight against Anthony Mundine in Sydney, Green could surpass the record twice this year, with the Jones clash followed by a rematch with Mundine.
Jones, the brash and charismatic former light-heavyweight world champion, would be the highest-profile name to fight in Australia. Some consider him the best fighter ever, although his powers have diminished in recent years .
Still, he would pose an enormous threat to Green's WBA light-heavyweight title, which the Australian defends next month against mandatory challenger Hugo Garay of Argentina.
Should Green get through Garay in Perth, he will look to host Jones in the same city - most likely at Subiaco Oval - and the fight would take place at 1am to accommodate the American audience.
"Anything is possible," Green told the Herald. "After this fight [against Garay] I believe I can have two more fights this year, and I'm not ruling anything out."
The Mundine rematch is believed to be tentatively locked in for the end of the year, so Green would face Jones in his next bout should he secure the deal.
Jones showed signs of his best form in his latest outing against Felix Trinidad and has great speed, the weapon which allowed Mundine to defeat Green in their first encounter.
"I am not looking past Garay," said Green (25-3, 22KO). "This fight will be straight up and down. He is just going to come in there and try to crush me."
Garay (30-3, 17KO) is the No.1-ranked contender for Green's title while Jones is No.2. The Argentinean has a granite chin and power in both hands, but Green said: "He hasn't tasted my power yet. We'll see how he likes it."
Green first saw Garay fighting at the Sydney Olympics, where both men were representing their countries.
"The first thing I noticed about him then was that he was big and raw," Green said. "He is the same now but more refined and experienced.
"He is very strong physically, and comes forward all the time."
Green took a swipe at Mundine, who has easily defeated two previous Argentinean opponents.
"Some people are going to think this is going to be an easy fight because certain other fighters have brought out no-names from Argentina who are nowhere near that level - not even close."
Meanwhile, it has emerged that Nader Hamdan suffered a burst right eardrum during his action-packed loss to Mundine two weeks ago, and may require surgery. "It was some left hook," said Hamdan of the punch that shattered his ear.
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pecks
03-10-2008, 06:14 PM
Green sizes up Jones as a warm-up for the Man
Only in Australia could anyone get away with a headline like that. :lol:
Dr Gonzo
03-10-2008, 06:32 PM
RJJ UD Green
still an interesting though :yep
pecks
03-10-2008, 06:53 PM
RJJ UD Green
still an interesting though :yepI agree. It'd be a massive draw here and if green were to somehow beat Jones, it'd make the Mundine rematch much more anticipated, and probably even more anticipated than the first one.
Many Green fans would have reasonable cause to be optimistic.
sambo1987
03-10-2008, 07:04 PM
RJJ UD Green
still an interesting though :yep
You're probably right, however it's great to see he actually wants to fight the best, unlike a certain someone.. Good on ya greeny ;)
Would be an interesting fight. No doubt in my mind Jones still has the ability to easily outbox Green but that didn't help him against the likes of Johnson and Tarver II and III.
It would be terrific to see Jones come out here though and he seems to be willing during these latter stages of his career.
Style-wise - RJJ is the worst possible matchup for Green. Bad move IMO
ozziebattler
03-10-2008, 07:47 PM
Style-wise - RJJ is the worst possible matchup for Green. Bad move IMO
Style wise in 5-10years ago yes.
Now jones lays on the ropes for 1min,dancers for 1min, then throws maybe 15punches within the last minute.
Rjj is one of my top 5 fav boxers ever but i actually have this fight a 50/50 bout.
Green is obviously willing to get into the trenches and trade blows where rjj is extremely timid these days.
Also we all know Green would bust his ass preparing for this fight and come fight night would be pumped up.As for rjj i aint sure how he would treat the fight.
Dont get me wrong rjj is a legend and anytime backwards from 4-5years ago we would see a similar outcome to jones vs woods.
2008...who knows:huh
Style wise in 5-10years ago yes.
Now jones lays on the ropes for 1min,dancers for 1min, then throws maybe 15punches within the last minute.
Rjj is one of my top 5 fav boxers ever but i actually have this fight a 50/50 bout.
Green is obviously willing to get into the trenches and trade blows where rjj is extremely timid these days.
Also we all know Green would bust his ass preparing for this fight and come fight night would be pumped up.As for rjj i aint sure how he would treat the fight.
Dont get me wrong rjj is a legend and anytime backwards from 4-5years ago we would see a similar outcome to jones vs woods.
2008...who knows:huh ALthough i agree to an extent, the Jones who beat Trinidad would still have too much handspeed and guile for Danny. Still, Dannys power would have to be a factor.
lefty
03-10-2008, 08:08 PM
I also think this fight is 50/50. But fortunately i don't believe this fight will ever happen, Jones has got better things to do and i think Green might lose against Garay. Green is in the same cocky, shit-talking mode he was in before Beyer kicked his ass in the second fight. The douchebag thinks that the paper title he got given makes him a better fighter somehow.
ozziebattler
03-10-2008, 08:11 PM
ALthough i agree to an extent, the Jones who beat Trinidad would still have too much handspeed and guile for Danny. Still, Dannys power would have to be a factor.
Dannys key to success is completely outworking jones with ridiculous amounts of punches thrown.
Also completely smother jones like Glen Johnson did.Jones likes to stay on the ropes these days so let him,make it so he cant move anywhere.
Someone needs to send Green the Johnson tape.That was a horrible fight to watch but oh so effective by Glen.
ozziebattler
03-10-2008, 08:13 PM
I also think this fight is 50/50. But fortunately i don't believe this fight will ever happen, Jones has got better things to do and i think Green might lose against Garay. Green is in the same cocky, shit-talking mode he was in before Beyer kicked his ass in the second fight. The douchebag thinks that the paper title he got given makes him a better fighter somehow.
I dont know anything about Garay so aint too sure prediction wise.
Though i know you are a massive Green hater:deal .
Just saying it how it is.
lefty
03-10-2008, 08:24 PM
I dont know anything about Garay so aint too sure prediction wise.
Though i know you are a massive Green hater:deal .
Just saying it how it is.
I don't know about hater, Green being a douchebag/muppet is one of the facts of life.
Dannys key to success is completely outworking jones with ridiculous amounts of punches thrown.
Also completely smother jones like Glen Johnson did.Jones likes to stay on the ropes these days so let him,make it so he cant move anywhere.
Someone needs to send Green the Johnson tape.That was a horrible fight to watch but oh so effective by Glen.
Green doesn't fight like that though, he is far too cautious. As seen vs Mundine and in the second Beyer fight. He can't let his hands go freely, he is too stiff. If he could, he can win, but IMO he either can't or won't, and RJJ will outbox him.
huricn
03-10-2008, 09:57 PM
:roll: :patsch :roll: :patsch :roll: :patsch
Only in Australia could anyone get away with a headline like that. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Roy Jones Jnr being used as a warm up for the Real Superman :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
This has to be one of my Fav posts (Headline) of the year
Kegsy
03-11-2008, 02:19 AM
One of funniest headlines i have heard in ages.
cedrichw
03-11-2008, 03:03 AM
I also think this fight is 50/50. But fortunately i don't believe this fight will ever happen, Jones has got better things to do and i think Green might lose against Garay. Green is in the same cocky, shit-talking mode he was in before Beyer kicked his ass in the second fight. The douchebag thinks that the paper title he got given makes him a better fighter somehow.
Lefty got no idea about the RJJ fight depends which RJJ turns up on the day but how do you call greens title a paper one nbot really sure there am I missing something does someone have the super title in his divison and belt or was it because you didn't feel his opponent was worthy of a title fight
Lefty got no idea about the RJJ fight depends which RJJ turns up on the day but how do you call greens title a paper one nbot really sure there am I missing something does someone have the super title in his divison and belt or was it because you didn't feel his opponent was worthy of a title fight
Its a paper title because it was originally a vacated one before Stipe Drews captured it. Stipe Drews was technically a paper champion.
CarltonBlues
03-11-2008, 03:24 AM
Roy is shot, hasn't had a credible win in years. Green would maul him.
sambo1987
03-11-2008, 04:02 AM
Its a paper title because it was originally a vacated one before Stipe Drews captured it. Stipe Drews was technically a paper champion.
I think thats a little weak. If it was vacated 60 years ago it would still technically be a paper title. Siaca and Branco fought for the interim title, Branco won, Tiozzo retired, Branco became full champ, Drews beats Branco, Green beats Drews.
Green still beat the Champ if you know what I mean.. He didn't fight for a vacant title.
ashley
03-11-2008, 05:17 AM
It would be great if RJJ came out to Australia to fight Green and somehow Green won setting up the super fight Green VS Mundine 2....problem is i dont think the first fight will happen and Green better look to his next fight 100% or he may not even get another shot a Choc.
lefty
03-11-2008, 05:19 AM
I think thats a little weak. If it was vacated 60 years ago it would still technically be a paper title. Siaca and Branco fought for the interim title, Branco won, Tiozzo retired, Branco became full champ, Drews beats Branco, Green beats Drews.
Green still beat the Champ if you know what I mean.. He didn't fight for a vacant title.
Branco and Siaca are really C grade super-middles though, Branco didn't beat the champ he got given his title then lost it to Drews. Then there was the Green farce with Drews showing up for a final payday, thanks to Greenys wealth he managed to buy a title that has no sort of credibility. Has there ever been a worse run of 'champions' than Branco, Drews, Green? I doubt it.
If Green wants to be taken seriously he should be making noises about unifying, not cashing in by fighting names that are way past it who would've humiliated him back in the day. Green thinks his title makes him a champion fighter. Wrong, you're the same wealthy stiff you've always been. Massive ego, bought a title, no desire to be the best. How anybody can be a fan of him baffles me.
Branco and Siaca are really C grade super-middles though, Branco didn't beat the champ he got given his title then lost it to Drews. Then there was the Green farce with Drews showing up for a final payday, thanks to Greenys wealth he managed to buy a title that has no sort of credibility. Has there ever been a worse run of 'champions' than Branco, Drews, Green? I doubt it.
If Green wants to be taken seriously he should be making noises about unifying, not cashing in by fighting names that are way past it who would've humiliated him back in the day. Green thinks his title makes him a champion fighter. Wrong, you're the same wealthy stiff you've always been. Massive ego, bought a title, no desire to be the best. How anybody can be a fan of him baffles me.
Gotta agree with some of this i suppose.... i still don't mind Greeny and will support him against any international fighter.
shiner
03-11-2008, 07:34 AM
ahhh,lefty.is it his looks,his bursting bank balance,his sweet missus,the adoration of millions,or the fact that you are a wannabe/nevecouldbe that grinds your engine so much? or is it that he will forever go down in history as the official lightheavyweight champion of the world!!!!???? ahh mate, dont be too worried,there are a dozen of us punters on the forum who know your feelings. wow u got sum kinda hate on him. relax champ, if he knew your feelings im sure it would really bother him.:blurp
Barge FTA
03-11-2008, 08:57 AM
Roy wouldn't even know where Perth is, let alone fight Danny Green. I can guarantee this fight will never happen.
ozziebattler
03-11-2008, 08:58 AM
ahhh,lefty.is it his looks,his bursting bank balance,his sweet missus,the adoration of millions.:blurp
I will agree with the sweet missus and bank balance part..
But looks and adulation from millions:huh
he has a head like a robbers dog and a honker thats all over the place.
(I know boxers aint suppose to be models).
As for the MILLIONS OF FANS business.
LOAD OF HOT COCK......
left jab danny
03-11-2008, 11:04 AM
Branco and Siaca are really C grade super-middles though, Branco didn't beat the champ he got given his title then lost it to Drews. Then there was the Green farce with Drews showing up for a final payday, thanks to Greenys wealth he managed to buy a title that has no sort of credibility. Has there ever been a worse run of 'champions' than Branco, Drews, Green? I doubt it.
If Green wants to be taken seriously he should be making noises about unifying, not cashing in by fighting names that are way past it who would've humiliated him back in the day. Green thinks his title makes him a champion fighter. Wrong, you're the same wealthy stiff you've always been. Massive ego, bought a title, no desire to be the best. How anybody can be a fan of him baffles me.
How the fuck could a mundine lover like yourself hold a straight face while saying "Green shouldn't be cashing in by fighting boxers past there best "..lol have you forgotten the Lester Ellis fight:oops:
Then you crap on about Danny not wanting to unify,wrong again he's been in regular talks with Erdie and if the RJJ fight doesn't come off he'll more then likely fight him to unify the wba and wbo belts.
But don't feel sad lefty i hear that choc's going to unify his "regular" title with the argentina 168 national title soon:patsch
It must really cut you up that Danny is seen as a genuine title holder :yep
Not to mention it would send you close to suiciding if Danny got the fight with RJJ!!!!!!!!!
Poor old choc always wanted a superfight in America he'd bawl his eyes out if Danny got this fight with his idol.
And when Danny KTFO of jones i'd love to see chocs face fukin priceless.
And believe me if RJJ makes the mistake of fighting Danny it will be Roys last fight!
The guy is a hasbeen his chin is so suspect and he fights scared these days because 5 years ago he had the reflexes and speed to avoid being hit but these days he so old and slow and he's getting tagged more often and he's not throwing the combination punches he use to.He's also starting to look flat footed in his last few fights,not to mention he seams to just load up on his punches nowadays but in saying that he couldn't even stop tito:nono
Danny will crush rjj in less then 5 rounds:deal
lefty
03-11-2008, 11:21 AM
ahhh,lefty.is it his looks,his bursting bank balance,his sweet missus,the adoration of millions,or the fact that you are a wannabe/nevecouldbe that grinds your engine so much? or is it that he will forever go down in history as the official lightheavyweight champion of the world!!!!???? ahh mate, dont be too worried,there are a dozen of us punters on the forum who know your feelings. wow u got sum kinda hate on him. relax champ, if he knew your feelings im sure it would really bother him.:blurp
:lol: His nose is busted, he has a weird shaped body and he is the stiffest looking person i've ever seen. He has alot of money i'm sure (relative to the average person) Maybe you find his wife attractive but i sure don't and he has the adoration of a few thousand in perth, mainly non boxing fans. What is the official lightheavyweight champion? He'll be remembered for his almost win against Beyer more than anything else when he's done. Please don't tell me you think he's the man at light-heavy?
Didn't you say you speak to him? Can you please ask him if he's interested in fighting Chad Dawson if he thinks he's the champ at light-heavy? :rofl Cheers bud.
I don't hate him, i just think he is a joke of a fighter and i don't like how he carries on with his ego in the media, i feel like he is disrespectful to boxing by pretending he is THE champ, if somebody doesn't know boxing and they see Green it reinforces the stereotype of the cocky,dumb strong guy who just swings until someone drops. He's a bad representative for boxing, he's not scientific, skilled or stylish in any way and the uneducated person thinks he's the best out there. If Green was the best that anyone could be i'd never put a pair of gloves on again, what would be the point.
And i know for sure that Green couldn't give a fuck about my opinion or if i dropped dead tomorrow, and i honestly don't care in the slightest, you can see i don't have any respect for him so i don't know what point you're trying to make with that.
lefty
03-11-2008, 11:30 AM
How the fuck could a mundine lover like yourself hold a straight face while saying "Green shouldn't be cashing in by fighting boxers past there best "..lol have you forgotten the Lester Ellis fight:oops:
Then you crap on about Danny not wanting to unify,wrong again he's been in regular talks with Erdie and if the RJJ fight doesn't come off he'll more then likely fight him to unify the wba and wbo belts.
But don't feel sad lefty i hear that choc's going to unify his "regular" title with the argentina 168 national title soon:patsch
It must really cut you up that Danny is seen as a genuine title holder :yep
Not to mention it would send you close to suiciding if Danny got the fight with RJJ!!!!!!!!!
Poor old choc always wanted a superfight in America he'd bawl his eyes out if Danny got this fight with his idol.
And when Danny KTFO of jones i'd love to see chocs face fukin priceless.
And believe me if RJJ makes the mistake of fighting Danny it will be Roys last fight!
The guy is a hasbeen his chin is so suspect and he fights scared these days because 5 years ago he had the reflexes and speed to avoid being hit but these days he so old and slow and he's getting tagged more often and he's not throwing the combination punches he use to.He's also starting to look flat footed in his last few fights,not to mention he seams to just load up on his punches nowadays but in saying that he couldn't even stop tito:nono
Danny will crush rjj in less then 5 rounds:deal
Whoa slow down there big fella, where did you get the impression i was a Mundine lover? He's as bad as Green when it comes to ego and fighting tomato cans but atleast he has some athletic ability and boxing skill.
I see a RJJ-Green fight as 50-50, Jones is so far past it that it has come to that, I think if Green doesn't hesitate too much and load up tightly on punches like he tends to do he could win. But still what does that mean at this point? If Mundine humiliated Green just imagine the number prime Roy would do on him. Jones isn't going to fight Green, he wants to cash in on his name at this point and noone cares to see him fight Green, most people who still want to see Roy fight probably don't even know who Green is.
sambo1987
03-11-2008, 05:57 PM
Looks like Beyer wants to break this party up anyway
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If Beyer thinks he has a shot, then maybe Green's chances aren't that far fetched?
I will agree with the sweet missus and bank balance part..
But looks and adulation from millions:huh
he has a head like a robbers dog and a honker thats all over the place.
(I know boxers aint suppose to be models).
As for the MILLIONS OF FANS business.
LOAD OF HOT COCK......
:lol::lol:
Kegsy
03-11-2008, 09:38 PM
Looks like Beyer wants to break this party up anyway
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If Beyer thinks he has a shot, then maybe Green's chances aren't that far fetched?
Yeah i couldnt believe that.
I reckon Beyer will get beat...
Whoa slow down there big fella, where did you get the impression i was a Mundine lover? He's as bad as Green when it comes to ego and fighting tomato cans but atleast he has some athletic ability and boxing skill.
I see a RJJ-Green fight as 50-50, Jones is so far past it that it has come to that, I think if Green doesn't hesitate too much and load up tightly on punches like he tends to do he could win. But still what does that mean at this point? If Mundine humiliated Green just imagine the number prime Roy would do on him. Jones isn't going to fight Green, he wants to cash in on his name at this point and noone cares to see him fight Green, most people who still want to see Roy fight probably don't even know who Green is.
Roy may see it as an opportunity however to get himself a belt. Good post by the way. I find most times your analysis is pretty good, even though i think your probably being a bit harsh on Green. Its all subjective though, if you don't like him thats your choice.
BTW Dannys wife is a bit of a bogan IMO. I thought she was alright as well, until i watched the Danny Green story. Her voice and mannerisms are a real turn off for me.
one in a million
03-11-2008, 09:45 PM
Roy may see it as an opportunity however to get himself a belt. Good post by the way. I find most times your analysis is pretty good, even though i think your probably being a bit harsh on Green. Its all subjective though, if you don't like him thats your choice.
I agree MSTR I like reading lefty's posts also, it's not so one sided when he adds his opinion.
Kegsy
03-11-2008, 09:48 PM
BTW Dannys wife is a bit of a bogan IMO. I thought she was alright as well, until i watched the Danny Green story. Her voice and mannerisms are a real turn off for me.
Spot on there MSTR.:deal
ozziebattler
03-11-2008, 10:28 PM
BTW Dannys wife is a bit of a bogan IMO. I thought she was alright as well, until i watched the Danny Green story. Her voice and mannerisms are a real turn off for me.
She looks nice for a mummy but yeah shes a fullon bogan.
Imagine having to put up with Danny and his stupid jokes.Fuck that.
pecks
03-11-2008, 10:44 PM
She's no Belinda Bika though.
Kegsy
03-11-2008, 10:59 PM
She's no Belinda Bika though.
True true...
IrnBruMan
03-11-2008, 11:23 PM
:lol:
At least she doesn't have to wear a towel on her head to hide her ugliness, like The Man's wife :yep
:lol:
At least she doesn't have to wear a towel on her head to hide her ugliness, like The Man's wife :yepI heard on th radio last week something about Mundine and his wife in splitsville. I think she did a runner :lol:
ozziebattler
03-12-2008, 12:20 AM
:lol:
At least she doesn't have to wear a towel on her head to hide her ugliness, like The Man's wife :yep
I didnt even know he had a missus.
I know he has a few kids but thought he had them to different chicks.
IrnBruMan
03-12-2008, 12:36 AM
I heard on th radio last week something about Mundine and his wife in splitsville. I think she did a runner :lol:
Really? Hmm, what does the Q'uran have to say about unfaithful wives? I'm sure it involves rope and stones being thrown :yep
IrnBruMan
03-12-2008, 12:38 AM
I didnt even know he had a missus.
I know he has a few kids but thought he had them to different chicks.
He is (or was, depending on if what teke says is true) married to a chick of (I believe) South American extraction, who is also muslim.
They featured him on Burke's Backyard once and she was there, and he basically treated her like shit, didn't look at her or acknowledge her once, spoke about her as if she wasn't in the same room as them, and said "She's a good wife, cooks good." :lol:
Really? Hmm, what does the Q'uran have to say about unfaithful wives? I'm sure it involves rope and stones being thrown :yepShe might have to be his mandatory for punishment?
Dont take my word for it cause i got the back end of the radio announcers storyline
shiner
03-12-2008, 02:54 AM
ahh lefty,you mention that you don the gloves.is that why you hate green so much? because he is the world champion,2 times and 2 weight divisions,olympian,and he cant even fight.shit he musta got super lucky.you crack me up champ,your obvious envy of him is bordering on weird.keep up the good work pissant,you might win the novice state amauer titles if you get lucky and work real hard.hahahahahahahahaha. hope that post doesnt drive you to neck yourself little fella.wannabe.
lefty
03-12-2008, 04:46 AM
ahh lefty,you mention that you don the gloves.is that why you hate green so much? because he is the world champion,2 times and 2 weight divisions,olympian,and he cant even fight.shit he musta got super lucky.you crack me up champ,your obvious envy of him is bordering on weird.keep up the good work pissant,you might win the novice state amauer titles if you get lucky and work real hard.hahahahahahahahaha. hope that post doesnt drive you to neck yourself little fella.wannabe.
Come on shiney, your posts are getting repetitive....... Green is such a good looking fighter blah blah 2 time blah you jealous hope you don't kill yourself blah blah. Do you like any other boxers? Do you even like boxing or are you just here to heap praise on another man?
Because the only time i've ever seen you here is to type poorly written paragraphs passionately defending your C grade hero. Green is a good fighter, a solid journeyman. But let's not pretend he's any sort of champion or world class fighter, because that is ridiculous. For someone of his ability to have the money and fans he has he is very lucky, he has a great promotional team and due to his money he was lucky enough to buy a title off Drews. His biggest moment in his boxing career will always be when he almost took the B grade champ Beyers title off him by catching him by surprise. Luckily for Beyer Green doesn't hit as hard as the likes of Kessler and was able to recover and start to get on top before it was stopped before cleaning up matters in the rematch.
Green decided to blame Fenech for losing the fight, Green was so cocky he believed he had the fight won before the bell had gone saying that Beyer needed a psychologist to deal with him. Oh Danny boy.....
shiner
03-12-2008, 07:15 AM
lefty,im afraid i can only claim what he really is.and that my pal is the wba lightheavyweight champiopn of the world.i hate boxing,and am infatuated with green.!!! ahh dont be mad mate,envy is green ya know.and your boiling blood is red.
lefty
03-12-2008, 07:44 AM
i hate boxing,and am infatuated with green.!!!
Is your name Collette by any chance?
shiner
03-13-2008, 08:45 AM
is your name hazethcomeinmyeye by any chance? nah that's right, its hazethnofknidea!
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