last minute ticket for the khan hate train?

[rooq]

ok, up to now i've been pretty neutral in respect to amir khan. i think he's skillful and will enjoy watching him fight win or lose, and i am still in the wait-and-see camp when it comes to the glass chin debate.

but after hearing him on radio 5 earlier, i think his personality has reached new lows.

firstly, as a british asian myself, i find his lack of eloquency embarrasing. he just can't give a good interview because his mouth works faster than his brain, and coupled with a limited vocabulary, this only allows him to talk in boxing cliches or regurgitate what other people have told him. hatton, joe, haye, limond....even carl froch gives a better interview than this guy.

it sounds like he's trying to hype himself up a la prince naz, but the difference is naz could be genuinely witty, which is an attribute khan is severely lacking. in short, although he may have a good boxing career, i don't think he'll ever be half the personality of a bruno, hatton or even hamed.

i don't think there is anything wrong with being confident about a fight or even looking beyond your opponent. part of me hopes he goes on and does great things, but another part of me wants him to learn humility....whether this be by getting beaten in the ring, or just someone he respects sitting him down and explaining to him that he sounds like a complete fool.

[faisal]

ok, up to now i've been pretty neutral in respect to amir khan. i think he's skillful and will enjoy watching him fight win or lose, and i am still in the wait-and-see camp when it comes to the glass chin debate.

but after hearing him on radio 5 earlier, i think his personality has reached new lows.

firstly, as a british asian myself, i find his lack of eloquency embarrasing. he just can't give a good interview because his mouth works faster than his brain, and coupled with a limited vocabulary, this only allows him to talk in boxing cliches or regurgitate what other people have told him. hatton, joe, haye, limond....even carl froch gives a better interview than this guy.

it sounds like he's trying to hype himself up a la prince naz, but the difference is naz could be genuinely witty, which is an attribute khan is severely lacking. in short, although he may have a good boxing career, i don't think he'll ever be half the personality of a bruno, hatton or even hamed.

i don't think there is anything wrong with being confident about a fight or even looking beyond your opponent. part of me hopes he goes on and does great things, but another part of me wants him to learn humility....whether this be by getting beaten in the ring, or just someone he respects sitting him down and explaining to him that he sounds like a complete fool. agree with ya all the way buddy, as a british asian myself its sometimes embarassing to hear him talk, the boy lacks any kind of charisma and i think its fair to say he isnt much of an articulate speaker, his vocabulary being limited to nonesense jargan such as ''ya know what i mean'' and ''thanks man'' i know he's from a working class family from bolton but for god sakes Mr.Khan try going the distance with the oxford dictionary.
i personally belive he doesnt mean to say some of the crap coming out of his mouth, his poor use of speech makes him sound like a cock, i respect khan as a boxer but he'll never develop the personality naz and co had

[AllyT]

To be fair none of that makes him a bad guy. He is a boxer but modern boxing being what it is he is having to act the showman. By making a guy who is not one of lifes talkers play this game it is giving him an unfair image. With time he will relax and will then come accross better.

Sorry guys I will catch the next one.:yep

[Dunky McCafferty]

ok, up to now i've been pretty neutral in respect to amir khan. i think he's skillful and will enjoy watching him fight win or lose, and i am still in the wait-and-see camp when it comes to the glass chin debate.

but after hearing him on radio 5 earlier, i think his personality has reached new lows.

firstly, as a british asian myself, i find his lack of eloquency embarrasing. he just can't give a good interview because his mouth works faster than his brain, and coupled with a limited vocabulary, this only allows him to talk in boxing cliches or regurgitate what other people have told him. hatton, joe, haye, limond....even carl froch gives a better interview than this guy.

it sounds like he's trying to hype himself up a la prince naz, but the difference is naz could be genuinely witty, which is an attribute khan is severely lacking. in short, although he may have a good boxing career, i don't think he'll ever be half the personality of a bruno, hatton or even hamed.

i don't think there is anything wrong with being confident about a fight or even looking beyond your opponent. part of me hopes he goes on and does great things, but another part of me wants him to learn humility....whether this be by getting beaten in the ring, or just someone he respects sitting him down and explaining to him that he sounds like a complete fool.

I never heard the interview Rooq my man, but I wouldnt be too harsh on the lad. Hes young, great things are expected of him so of course hes going to give it the big talk, even if you can tell its forced, & doesnt come naturally. I think deep down hes a down to earth young lad, I seen him on the Paul O'Grady show & he was articulate, came across as a nice fella, he had the audience laughing with him & handled himself well.

His fighting talk is just a bit of bluster to sell himself, but I wouldnt read too deeply into it at this stage. Hes still 'learning the game' inside & out of the ring, & its easy to tell that the Hamedesque style boasts are manufactured, & it isnt his 'bag' so dont be too judgemental yet, thats what I say.

I could be wrong right enough, but its all about opinions:deal

[stake501]

sounds like a typical 19 year old , no command of the queens english....

essentially i dont give a fuck....i am interested in his boxing...lets his gloves do the talking....the way i see it...if beckham can carry out a full sentence these days, ANYONE can.

Remember, how cringreworthy he used to be....and still is to some

[IronBull]

'ya know what i mean'' and ''thanks man''

nothing wrong with that.. he speaking like a mate...

[BigEars]

'ya know what i mean'' and ''thanks man''

nothing wrong with that.. he speaking like a mate...

Nothing wrong with that when he's speaking to a mate , but even footballers are able to give better interviews than him . Footballers don't have to have personalities that attract crowds but boxers do , whether he wants to go down the Carl Froch 'loudmouth' or Hatton 'just one of the lads' routines he's going to have to improve his public speaking .

Khan stumbles threw his words a lot and it is apparent he has a problem expressing what is in his head , it is Frank ******'s job as his promoter to try and help him fix that .

[LeadLeftHook]

ok, up to now i've been pretty neutral in respect to amir khan. i think he's skillful and will enjoy watching him fight win or lose, and i am still in the wait-and-see camp when it comes to the glass chin debate.

but after hearing him on radio 5 earlier, i think his personality has reached new lows.

firstly, as a british asian myself, i find his lack of eloquency embarrasing. he just can't give a good interview because his mouth works faster than his brain, and coupled with a limited vocabulary, this only allows him to talk in boxing cliches or regurgitate what other people have told him. hatton, joe, haye, limond....even carl froch gives a better interview than this guy.

it sounds like he's trying to hype himself up a la prince naz, but the difference is naz could be genuinely witty, which is an attribute khan is severely lacking. in short, although he may have a good boxing career, i don't think he'll ever be half the personality of a bruno, hatton or even hamed.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being confident about a fight or even looking beyond your opponent. part of me hopes he goes on and does great things, but another part of me wants him to learn humility....whether this be by getting beaten in the ring, or just someone he respects sitting him down and explaining to him that he sounds like a complete fool.

So his lack of eloquency is a good enough reason for you to be emmbarassed as a fellow Asian??? Perhaps just being an Asian emmbarasses you.

Sure I enjoy a good speaker but Khan has an entertaining style which more than makes up for it. Besides hes going to improve on it I'm sure with time.
And how is he not humble? Hes shown respect for all his opponents including his next one. If Limmond himself has said that Khan has treated him with a lot of respect, why do you have an issue with Khans humility? Yeh the boy believes in his ability, and has every reason to given what he accomplished as 17 yr old.

He's used his high profile in positive ways, including numerous charities and support for his community . Other than jealousy I really dont get the unjust criticism especially coming from an Asian. The pressure on the kid has been immenese since he was thrust into the spotlight 3 years ago and hes coped with it rather well.

[rooq]

So his lack of eloquency is a good enough reason for you to be emmbarassed as a fellow Asian??? Perhaps just being an Asian emmbarasses you.

Sure I enjoy a good speaker but Khan has an entertaining style which more than makes up for it. Besides hes going to improve on it I'm sure with time.
And how is he not humble? Hes shown respect for all his opponents including his next one. If Limmond himself has said that Khan has treated him with a lot of respect, why do you have an issue with Khans humility? Yeh the boy believes in his ability, and has every reason to given what he accomplished as 17 yr old.

He's used his high profile in positive ways, including numerous charities and support for his community . Other than jealousy I really dont get the unjust criticism especially coming from an Asian. The pressure on the kid has been immenese since he was thrust into the spotlight 3 years ago and hes coped with it rather well.

woooah..hold your horses there mate. my post is a comment on the direction his personality is going based on last nights radio 5 interview. i've heard him in interviews before and he's never come across like this. did you hear it?

to me it sounded like he wasn't being himself and trying too hard to sound cocky / hype and he just sounded like an idiot reeling off a list of boxing cliches. i much prefered him in earlier interviews when he was humble and talked about learning the game and improving fight-by-fight. buncey (i think it was him?) said something similiar after the interview was aired

i'm not criticising what he's achieved or his boxing skills or what he does for the community. i'm just criticising how he now appears to be portraying himself.

hey...i'm not even on the hate train yet. i'm just in the ticket office, reading tourist pamphlets and considering my options. maybe this interview was a one-off. maybe ******, or someone else will give him a bit of direction now so he comes across better in interviews. i do hope so because as i said, i want him to do well and achieve great things. but i don't want to hear him sounding like an ass.

[rooq]

sounds like a typical 19 year old , no command of the queens english....

essentially i dont give a fuck....i am interested in his boxing...lets his gloves do the talking....the way i see it...if beckham can carry out a full sentence these days, ANYONE can.

Remember, how cringreworthy he used to be....and still is to some

thats true. i think part of the problem is just that he hasn't matured as an adult yet. he'll probably be fine at giving interviews in 2 or 3 years.

[stake501]

you mature into this stuff. Remeber giggs could hardley get a word out when he was a kid, rooney was embarrassing... not everyone has Naz's wit and public speaking confidence.

Of all the young british superstars, only Hamilton gives a good interview....and he has been trained by McLaren since he was 14, even he made a PR mistake calling the other drives down the grid monkeys.

Andy Murray, wayne Rooney, and now Khan have all been embarrassed in the paper by what they have said in interviews.

On Radio Five they put the Khan interview in context, in that it sounded like a post fight interview as he gave it straight after doing an hour public workout in front hundreds and hundreds of screaming fans (girls?), so the adrenaline was really pumping, and he was speaking very quickly......but his vocabulary is shocking.

I wouldnt expect him to be the same way on michael parkinson

[Decebal]

Frankly, I don't care how well-schooled Khan is, but I am disappointed whenever he comes across as arrogant. It just does not suit him. For him, it's a PR mistake as well as just being silly, in general.

[Amsterdam]

First of all, it's not the "Khan hate" train, it's simply "the anti-Khan train".

As the commanding De Facto leader and instigator of this fine express, I welcome anyone who wants to jump aboard this classy ride whenever they like, doesn't matter if you're an original or a neutral/former supporter, so long as you realise the fraudulency of this joke.

The anti-Khan train is completely Political, it is not racist, bigoted or childishly biased. The anti-Khan train does however have a cemented place for CHIN CHECKING and Khan's grade A china chin is a big factor in the anti-Khan train's agenda preaching.

So you are welcome Rooq, he is indeed an embarassment and while you are citing some basic surface issue's with Amir Khan and the fraud pile backing him, you have not even begun to dive deep into the real problems of this insanity trip.

:good

[LeadLeftHook]

woooah..hold your horses there mate. my post is a comment on the direction his personality is going based on last nights radio 5 interview. i've heard him in interviews before and he's never come across like this. did you hear it?

to me it sounded like he wasn't being himself and trying too hard to sound cocky / hype and he just sounded like an idiot reeling off a list of boxing cliches. i much prefered him in earlier interviews when he was humble and talked about learning the game and improving fight-by-fight. buncey (i think it was him?) said something similiar after the interview was aired

i'm not criticising what he's achieved or his boxing skills or what he does for the community. i'm just criticising how he now appears to be portraying himself.

hey...i'm not even on the hate train yet. i'm just in the ticket office, reading tourist pamphlets and considering my options. maybe this interview was a one-off. maybe ******, or someone else will give him a bit of direction now so he comes across better in interviews. i do hope so because as i said, i want him to do well and achieve great things. but i don't want to hear him sounding like an ass.

Frankly I'd be tired of his interviews if all I heard so far was "I'm learning my trade..." Your point is taken. Ok so he sounded like a typical 19-20 yr old would and agreed hes not a natural speaker. But, actions speak louder than words, his skills in the ring and how he conducts himself will speak for itself.

[Amsterdam]

Frankly I'd be tired of his interviews if all I heard so far was "I'm learning my trade..." Your point is taken. Ok so he sounded like a typical 19-20 yr old would and agreed hes not a natural speaker. But, actions speak louder than words, his skills in the ring and how he conducts himself will speak for itself.

You need to get realistic and grow up.

[LeadLeftHook]

You need to get realistic and grow up.

By the sounds of it you're the one in need of a reality check calling it a joke. You have no reason to say that other than how he hasn't even accomplished anything in the pro ranks. Well as an FYI that whys no one considers him anymore than a hot prospect.

Oh wait your basis for claim is that you heard from your best friend that knows someone who knows someone who has seen Khan getting starched in the gym, and you think I need to grow up! :yep

[Amsterdam]

By the sounds of it you're the one in need of a reality check calling it a joke. You have no reason to say that other than how he hasn't even accomplished anything in the pro ranks. Well as an FYI that whys no one considers him anymore than a hot prospect.

Oh wait your basis for claim is that you heard from your best friend that knows someone who knows someone who has seen Khan getting starched in the gym, and you think I need to grow up! :yep

Please, he's the most well known boxer in Britain.:rofl

And yes, he was starched in the gym, multiple times. As well as rocked badly in amatuers by a non-puncher.

There is nothing that is phenominal about the kid at the moment, not to the level that dictates this type of excessive and exploitative promotional hype. Wait until he gets starched proper by an average fighter, thereby making the establishment and therefore British boxing look absolutely silly ridiculous.:hi:

[BigEars]

how many 19yr olds do you know that speaks the queens english?. ya get me?.

Actually Emma that's a very good point.........shame for Amir he's 21 in less than 5 months .

About time he starts to grow up before he becomes a Mayweather that stumbles over his words and can barely talk .

[LeadLeftHook]

Please, he's the most well known boxer in Britain.:rofl

And yes, he was starched in the gym, multiple times. As well as rocked badly in amatuers by a non-puncher.

There is nothing that is phenominal about the kid at the moment, not to the level that dictates this type of excessive and exploitative promotional hype. Wait until he gets starched proper by an average fighter, thereby making the establishment and therefore British boxing look absolutely silly ridiculous.:hi:

I disagree the public imagination was captured in the Olympics of 2004 much before he even become Pro. Its obvious that Khans silver medal at 17 having pretty much no senior experience beating European champion along the way and losing only to the legend in a competitive fight that earned him the fame. More people probably knew about him at that point alone then than say someone like Hatton. But you're jealous or upset that he shot to fame with his accomplishments in such a short time and it’s a shame that people like you like to blame others failures on someone else’s success.

Hes hyped but not overly hyped? To me over hyped is a fighter who hasn’t really proven or accomplished anything that’s being touted to do great things. On the contrary hes proven himself at a very young age albeit only in the amateurs. Great things are expected and great opportunities are presented from promising young talents and thats everywhere in every profession, it isn’t exclusive to boxing so you can stop the whining.

Its like this, a graduate from an IVY league university gets paid a lot more than a graduate from local community college. They are more sought after by firms everywhere. Same deal in boxing, Olympic medalists are more sought after. Success isn’t guaranteed for them but it gives them a good start.

What I do find crazy is the obsession over everything he does or says, as though any slip up is inexcusable.
You say when (its not an if from your view) he fails it looks bad on British boxing. Well since his Olympic success UK amateur boxing has benefited a great deal and theres no denying it with so many kids joining gyms. Khan himself has opened a gym open to the kids. And ofcourse he’s brought many more people to watching pro boxing, lets say an 1,000,000 additional viewers started watching pro boxing, and say he losses tomorrow and if only 10%(100,000) of them still watch boxing its much more than it would get otherwise. So your argument is weak at best.

Do you have any evidence to prove he was starched in the gym? I don’t consider hearsay as proof. As for his knock down in the amateurs its not really a big deal, he came back from the Olympics and got too complacent in a fight he was winning very easily, lesson learned for him.

[IronBull]

Very good post LeadLeftHook :)

[theworm]

i m no expert, but surely if khan was to win this fight inside the distance, with a convincing KO, detractors would have to take a step back. though limond is not a noted puncher, he s the champion and a good win would definetely count as a valued one. saying that i think khan will scrape a points decision.

[Dunky McCafferty]

I just heard the Khan interview Rooq was talking about, & I thought Khan came across as a bit of an asshole. However, I am willing to give Khan the benefit of the doubt due to his young age.

However, if he beats Limond & starts screaming about how great he is, I may find myself hopping aboard the hate train.

I always thought he was a decent lad, but that bullshit he was spewing about his body shots & shit, I hope we dont have another gloater like Hatton on our hands. Thats all I fuckin need!!! One is bad enough to listen to, never mind two...

[rooq]

I just heard the Khan interview Rooq was talking about, & I thought Khan came across as a bit of an asshole. However, I am willing to give Khan the benefit of the doubt due to his young age.

However, if he beats Limond & starts screaming about how great he is, I may find myself hopping aboard the hate train.

I always thought he was a decent lad, but that bullshit he was spewing about his body shots & shit, I hope we dont have another gloater like Hatton on our hands. Thats all I fuckin need!!! One is bad enough to listen to, never mind two...

i'm glad someone else has heard it! written down it wouldn't have seemed so bad, but there was just something about khans attitude in that interview that wasn't right.

as i said earlier, hopefully someone will explain this to him and he'll tone down the pantomine arrogance and just let his skills do the talking. :good

[Amsterdam]

I just heard the Khan interview Rooq was talking about, & I thought Khan came across as a bit of an asshole. However, I am willing to give Khan the benefit of the doubt due to his young age.

However, if he beats Limond & starts screaming about how great he is, I may find myself hopping aboard the hate train.

I always thought he was a decent lad, but that bullshit he was spewing about his body shots & shit, I hope we dont have another gloater like Hatton on our hands. Thats all I fuckin need!!! One is bad enough to listen to, never mind two...

That's going to happen if he wins, no doubt. Welcome aboard Dunky...

Please, everyone refer to the great express as the "Anti-Khan train", not the "hate train", we're class and political, not any type of ethno-hate or cultural hate driven, just anti-bad exploitation by way of this overrated china chinned joke fighter.

Plus, he's annoying...

[rooq]

That's going to happen if he wins, no doubt. Welcome aboard Dunky...

Please, everyone refer to the great express as the "Anti-Khan train", not the "hate train", we're class and political, not any type of ethno-hate or cultural hate driven, just anti-bad exploitation by way of this overrated china chinned joke fighter.

Plus, he's annoying...

maybe it should be called the "anti-amir khan the sports network fighter" train. as we don't want to offend any innocent khan's out there.

anyway, i'm not even on the train yet. he still has a chance to redeem himself tonight.

[Decebal]

Please, everyone refer to the great express as the "Anti-Khan train", not the "hate train", we're class and political, not any type of ethno-hate or cultural hate driven, just anti-bad exploitation by way of this overrated china chinned joke fighter.

Plus, he's annoying...

:rofl

[Decebal]

The Khan interview - wicked, you know what I mean!

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

click on Khan confident of first title win next to Amir's picture, just under Boxing: Highlights and Features, middle left as you look at the page.

:rasta

[SevenSamurai]

In terms of personality Khan is just not a likeable guy.

And, contrary to what has been said here you do not to be an eloquent public speaker to be well liked as boxer. Look at Bruno, and even Naseem to some extent...

He is definately trying to be the "big I am" like how Naseem marketed himself. The problem for him is that he has glass chin, one even his management is scared of exposing, which is shown in their match making him against guys who could not even break an egg, they know he will be exposed against an average fighter well before he makes the millions Naseem made.

[LeadLeftHook]

The Khan interview - wicked, you know what I mean!

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

click on Khan confident of first title win next to Amir's picture, just under Boxing: Highlights and Features, middle left as you look at the page.

:rasta

Are you serious and this interview seems pretty harmless. He said the typical things a fighter says before a fight. Says he's gotten bigger, feel stronger worked on not moving the feet as much....etc. and that offends you! :patsch

[Decebal]

Are you serious and this interview seems pretty harmless. He said the typical things a fighter says before a fight. Says he's gotten bigger, feel stronger worked on not moving the feet as much....etc. and that offends you! :patsch

Where did I say I was offended? Where did I say he says weird stuff? :huh I am just having a bit of a laugh at the way he talks, that's all...what's wrong with that?

[Doppleganger]

It's a shame he doesn't speak like Chris Eubank. Now there was a boxer who could handle the interviews speaking the Queen's English. :yep

[Decebal]

It's a shame he doesn't speak like Chris Eubank. Now there was a boxer who could handle the interviews speaking the Queen's English. :yep

hear, hear!

[Cobra33]

I don't hate Khan-I just hate house fighters.

[rooq]

is amsterdam busy composing an essay?

was a very good fight to watch, but i found it annoying that khan did not even aknowledge that he was in trouble afterwards. maybe he was still hyped up though and his reaction over the next few days when hes seen the replay will be interesting.

[Amsterdam]

is amsterdam busy composing an essay?

was a very good fight to watch, but i found it annoying that khan did not even aknowledge that he was in trouble afterwards. maybe he was still hyped up though and his reaction over the next few days when hes seen the replay will be interesting.

Can't do it yet my good man, while Khan was officially exposed as a china chinned joke, he was not yet removed. When he's officially removed, I'll write up some killers for all of you.:good

[DamonD]

is amsterdam busy composing an essay?

was a very good fight to watch, but i found it annoying that khan did not even aknowledge that he was in trouble afterwards. maybe he was still hyped up though and his reaction over the next few days when hes seen the replay will be interesting.
He did say he was hurt, if that counts.

[Decebal]

Khan has the mentality of a winner, no doubt about that. I thought his after-fight interview was A BIT cocky - he protested a bit too much when he argued that he NEVER thought he might lose. But maybe that's just psychology training and hie determintation never to give up. I admire him for that. But it would have been appropriate if he had given Limond more credit and assessed the situation he was finding himself more objectively. For he was indeed in real trouble. This fight was no mismatch, especially since his chin is china.