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barneyrub
03-11-2008, 07:03 AM
UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva wants to fight Roy Jones.


“Anderson really would love to fight Roy Jones, Jr. in a boxing match,” says his manager, Ed Soares, confirming recent speculation. “It’s not just talk, we really would like to put that fight together.”

That’s not to say the Silva discounts Jones’ abilities. Both he and Jones are often argued as being the best pound-for-pound fighter in their respective sports. But Silva feels that fighters in mixed martial arts are often unjustly criticized as not being as technically proficient as their boxing counterparts, a misconception that he would like to dispel.

“We respect Jones’ boxing ability and think he’s one of the best,” said Soares, “but we’re tired of different boxers saying that MMA fighters aren’t technical. Anderson would love to fight Roy Jones in a boxing match under boxing rules to prove that MMA fighters are technical, too.”

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K0NPHL1C7
03-11-2008, 07:18 AM
HAHAHA, too funny.


Roy Jones by KO in 2

jimmy1991
03-11-2008, 07:34 AM
hahaha
this has to be bullshit

BewareofDawg
03-11-2008, 07:39 AM
This could be real funny if Silva beats him!!!! Jones is so far past it, why doesn't he call out Calzaghe?

o_money
03-11-2008, 07:41 AM
I don't know shit about Anderson but if he really is p4p the best MMA guy he might have a decent chance against Roy. I mean roy is way past it. but I would have to deffer to someone who knows if this guy is a good striker or not before Id make a call. But I can envisions a senario where an MMA guy beat a past it formerly good boxer.

LiamE
03-11-2008, 07:41 AM
This could be real funny if Silva beats him!!!! Jones is so far past it, why doesn't he call out Calzaghe?

I thought he did.

FlatNose
03-11-2008, 07:46 AM
In a boxing match, Roy Jones beats any non boxer, wheather Roy is 39, 49, or uses one arm with both legs in a potato sack.

BewareofDawg
03-11-2008, 07:46 AM
I thought he did.
When did he call out Calzaghe? I'm talking about Silva.

LiamE
03-11-2008, 07:53 AM
When did he call out Calzaghe? I'm talking about Silva.

Sorry.... read that wrong!

VIP
03-11-2008, 07:56 AM
lol why don't this guy start off a with a lesser fighter if he wants to get Roy in boxing ring.

BewareofDawg
03-11-2008, 07:58 AM
lol why don't this guy start off a with a lesser fighter if he wants to get Roy in boxing ring.
Roy is a lesser fighter nowadays. If he calls out a nobody it won't mean shit. Roy is a big name in boxing and way past his prime, he is actually perfect.

VIP
03-11-2008, 08:08 AM
Roy is a lesser fighter nowadays. If he calls out a nobody it won't mean shit. Roy is a big name in boxing and way past his prime, he is actually perfect.

Well, the thing is, no one is going to take him seriously. Boxers have a lot more star power. Roy is still a top 10 fighter, so yer, he would take this guy to school, embarass him.

Fedor Em
03-11-2008, 08:12 AM
Even in a K1 style match with no takedowns or subs Silva wins this, but without kicks and with queensbury rules, Roy should stop him even at his age.

RICH
03-11-2008, 09:41 AM
if silva put on gloves and fought roy under boxing rules. roy would just make silva look stupid. anderson silva is a tough guy who fights well striking & wrestling.
but no match for jones in his respective sport. this would be a great look for boxing imo.

thewoo
03-11-2008, 09:48 AM
Silva probably has the best boxing skills out of everyone else in UFC. he is one of the few that does not look completly amaturish when he punches

Action
03-11-2008, 11:59 AM
This would be the biggest PPV event of the year. And possibly be a decent match for a while.

the_what
03-11-2008, 12:00 PM
Silva is a bad man. I dont like MMA but Silva is bad ass.

Addie
03-11-2008, 12:02 PM
In a boxing match, Roy Jones would win this easily.

Shake
03-11-2008, 12:06 PM
Jones by slaughter.

Shot or not, this is a man groomed since his teens to fight under these specified conditions, and was a phenom. For a non-boxer to call him out like this is almost disrespectful to the craft.

I know Silva. He's nuts. Almost oblivious to pain. Tough, hard man. But the match would be unfair to him -- a professional against an athletic part-timer.

ChrisPontius
03-11-2008, 12:06 PM
It would be interesting to see, but by no means is Jones the #1 pound for pound as they claim. He was for a looong time, but those days are long gone. He showed flashes of greatness against Tito, just like Ali did for a few rounds against Shavers, but that doesn't make him any less shot...

kirk
03-11-2008, 12:11 PM
Yes because beating a 40 year old roy jones who is no where NEAR top 20 p4p at this stage will really mean jack shit

stupid mma fighter

Action
03-11-2008, 12:13 PM
Jones by slaughter.

Shot or not, this is a man groomed since his teens to fight under these specified conditions, and was a phenom. For a non-boxer to call him out like this is almost disrespectful to the craft.

I know Silva. He's nuts. Almost oblivious to pain. Tough, hard man. But the match would be unfair to him -- a professional against an athletic part-timer.

Jones should win but obviously you haven't seen Silva fight. An athletic part timer?! He is one of the best athletes in the world. Jones could get knocked out by this man.

Smirf
03-11-2008, 12:14 PM
They only way Silva could beat him is through grappling but in a boxing match no chance mate

kirk
03-11-2008, 12:16 PM
i dont see why he wouldnt have a chance... he is a very good fighter, has boxing training, is in his prime, ect, ect.

Roy is faded... beating a former WW and a natural 154lber doesnt change that.

Shaolin Box
03-11-2008, 12:20 PM
I'd love to see this. Roy would toy with this chump!

h2hkiller
03-11-2008, 12:56 PM
Andersen is a tall (6'2) slick southpaw. RJJ had problems with southpaws before in his prime, he will have more problems now that he lost his speed.

I sincerely hope that this will blow off but if it does happen, I hope RJJ does his homework and watch some tapes of this guy because Andersen does have skills that can translate over to boxing.

klion22
03-11-2008, 12:57 PM
Under boxing rules, RJJ destroys and toys with Silva. But in a MMA match, RJJ becomes Silva's bitch.

El Presidente
03-11-2008, 01:07 PM
i would give Silva a good chance. Remember Silva is the best striker in mma and if he is to fight Roy he would be training only in his boxing making it better than it already is

MasterFlo
03-11-2008, 01:34 PM
I almost can't believe any of you would say Silva has a chance, I've heard some stupid things of this board but that is easily the worst. Jones would either toy with him and then proceed to killing him or just go right out and do it. Have you seen boxers hand speed compared to MMA fighters handspeed, and Roy is unbelievable fast. It would be like Calzaghe vs. Lacy compacted into one round before Silva is a drooling mess.

Gunns4hire
03-11-2008, 01:43 PM
The fight will prove that anderson silva is a technical mma fighter! Which he doesn't need to prove because anyone that watches his fights knows that...He is the most technical MMA fighter out there. Thats why he is whooping all his counterparts asses. ... He isn't nice enough with his hands to beat roy though. He needs those knees and kicks to be fully effective.

Dunks
03-11-2008, 01:47 PM
if silva put on gloves and fought roy under boxing rules. roy would just make silva look stupid. anderson silva is a tough guy who fights well striking & wrestling.
but no match for jones in his respective sport. this would be a great look for boxing imo.

agreed

kg0208
03-11-2008, 02:22 PM
Under boxing rules, RJJ destroys and toys with Silva. But in a MMA match, RJJ becomes Silva's bitch.

This is the truth. In a boxing match, Silva would make it interesting for a round or so, then get beaten pretty easily. But in an MMA fight....Silva is a dangerous SOB.

I know alot of you hate MMA, but if you're ever going to watch an MMA fighter, this is the guy. He strikes like a monster....can use his legs and knees like a boxer uses his hands from the standing posiition (exaggeration for emphasis, but he can kick and punch relentlessly and accurately) and rarely fights on the ground.

Punisher33
03-11-2008, 02:39 PM
What a joke, Silva is a good striker in the UFC, but that's like saying Randy Moss is a good basketball player, just because the played college ball and was a decent player, can he beat the average guy in pick up game? Most definitely, can he stop Kobe from scoring or actually score on him consistantly? Not a chance in the world.

chimba
03-11-2008, 03:13 PM
As a fighter Silva will kill Roy Jones in the ring.
but purely boxing Id still have to go with Roy at this stage..even though Silva could possibly have the best boxing in MMA currently

Imperial1
03-11-2008, 03:16 PM
Silva probably has the best boxing skills out of everyone else in UFC. he is one of the few that does not look completly amaturish when he punches

they use say the same shit about Fedor ..Enough Silva will get his ass whopped by Carlos Maussa !!!

randeris
03-11-2008, 03:18 PM
Both he and Jones are often argued as being the best pound-for-pound fighter in their respective sports. WHAT? Did he say this 256 years ago?

Hawks28
03-11-2008, 03:22 PM
Im a big fan of Anderson Silva, but this would be a big mistake by him. I dont care how good or technical he thinks his boxing is, Roy would embarass him.

kg0208
03-11-2008, 03:24 PM
As a fighter Silva will kill Roy Jones in the ring.
but purely boxing Id still have to go with Roy at this stage..even though Silva could possibly have the best boxing in MMA currently

Silva is a beast.....

chimba
03-11-2008, 03:26 PM
Silva is a beast.....

in MMA that is..His biggest weapons are really his knees and legs..He hands are good not great

kg0208
03-11-2008, 03:30 PM
in MMA that is..His biggest weapons are really his knees and legs..He hands are good not great

As a fighter in general...he is the type of MMA fighter you would want nothing to do with in a brawl or bar fight.

His hands are great for an MMA fighter, a step above Liddel who was known for striking.

chimba
03-11-2008, 03:51 PM
As a fighter in general...he is the type of MMA fighter you would want nothing to do with in a brawl or bar fight.

His hands are great for an MMA fighter, a step above Liddel who was known for striking.

agreed Silva punches straight..he just lack the KO power of Chuck.

In a standup I think Silva will eat Chuck up

kg0208
03-11-2008, 03:55 PM
agreed Silva punches straight..he just lack the KO power of Chuck.

In a standup I think Silva will eat Chuck up

Easily. Not sure his power isn't nearly as great as Liddel's, he at least drops people regularly. But his leg strikes are insane.

Either way, Jones would beat him in a boxing match. Even at this age.

Sweet Pea
03-11-2008, 03:57 PM
Anderson is the best striker in MMA, and actually a pretty good boxer by most standards, but he concentrates mostly on picking his opponents off with his boxing, not really worrying about the in-coming, which would be big trouble against Jones. In an MMA or kickboxing/muay thai match, he'd murder Roy, but in boxing, he'd get his ass whooped.

OBCboxer
03-11-2008, 03:59 PM
RJJ scores his first KO of his comeback.

Sweet Pea
03-11-2008, 03:59 PM
in MMA that is..His biggest weapons are really his knees and legs..He hands are good not greatHis hands are very accurate and sharp, and deceptively powerful. It's his defense that would be the problem against a top notch boxer, as he often takes the shots to land his, seems to have no problems taking one coming in to land his, because his are so much more effective. Very technical with his punches, but open.

Sweet Pea
03-11-2008, 04:01 PM
They only way Silva could beat him is through grappling but in a boxing match no chance mateHe'd beat him in a pure striking match as well, just not a boxing match.

Action
03-11-2008, 10:13 PM
Silva would have a puncher's chance.

Chunk
03-11-2008, 10:21 PM
In a boxing match, Roy Jones beats any non boxer, wheather Roy is 39, 49, or uses one arm with both legs in a potato sack.

:yep :yep :yep :yep correct!!....

Jase2483
03-11-2008, 10:39 PM
Im a big fan of Anderson Silva, but this would be a big mistake by him. I dont care how good or technical he thinks his boxing is, Roy would embarass him.

How about make it a boxing match with 6oz gloves? ROFL :rofl

Jones by KO - First punch thrown with any real power

theunderdog
03-11-2008, 10:47 PM
wow. call out a waaaay past his prime fighter while in you are in your absolute prime. that's like pbf challenging bob cousy in a basketball game

Sweet Pea
03-11-2008, 10:50 PM
wow. call out a waaaay past his prime fighter while in you are in your absolute prime. that's like pbf challenging bob cousy in a basketball gameIs Cousy still playing? Or did he retire a longer amount of time ago than Jones was born?

The fight won't go through, so who really cares?

Caliboxing
03-11-2008, 11:03 PM
Silva likes being on his back and Roy will keep him there.



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JMotrain
03-11-2008, 11:17 PM
Silva had a professional boxing fight and lost by KO to some no name in Brazil. If he fought a top 50 boxer, he'd get his ass whooped.

Now under MMA rules, that's a completely different story.

Roy KO1

Hermit
03-11-2008, 11:18 PM
“UFC is the best fighting the best and that’s what boxing has to do. If you are an ultimate fighter, you are going to fight someone who is going to fight. In UFC, if you lose to a good fighter, you lost, you still know you are good fighter, and you come back the next day and fight again. In boxing, if you lose and that's it. You are done. I lose a few fights, they want to tell me I'm washed up and I don't have it no more." (Roy Jones)

I found this to be an interesting comment. A loss is not nearly as big a deal in MMA. I believe it makes for more interesting matchups because fighters aren't nearly as protective of the OH. Are the fans, like a lot of folks on this board, responsible for not seeing the fights they want because of it? Are we (fans) our own worst enemy?

right_hook_roye
03-11-2008, 11:52 PM
seriously... I know silva is almost unbeatable in the octagon but hes dreaming if he thinks he can beat roy in a boxing match..... seriously!

Hermit
03-11-2008, 11:55 PM
seriously... I know silva is almost unbeatable in the octagon but hes dreaming if he thinks he can beat roy in a boxing match..... seriously!Only one way to know for sure!:yep

Tencount85
03-12-2008, 12:04 AM
should be made. it would sell very well

Hermit
03-12-2008, 12:07 AM
should be made. it would sell very wellYeah, Mark Twain said something like "It's differences in opinion that make horse races".

theunderdog
03-12-2008, 12:31 AM
Is Cousy still playing? Or did he retire a longer amount of time ago than Jones was born?

The fight won't go through, so who really cares?

ever heard of exageration?

Farmboxer
03-12-2008, 12:33 AM
I think Roid Jones needs to be careful

Farmboxer
03-12-2008, 12:42 AM
Roid Jones will need more than steroids to win that fight.

Soloman
03-12-2008, 03:35 AM
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:)

Tencount85
03-12-2008, 03:38 AM
if anything it would put boxing out there again. now if jones happened to lose then people could truly say boxing is dead

vargasfan1985
03-12-2008, 03:40 AM
silva would get his shit ruined

theunderdog
03-12-2008, 04:06 AM
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:)

i never knew he actually fought

Dynamite Kid
03-12-2008, 04:17 AM
This could be real funny if Silva beats him!!!! Jones is so far past it, why doesn't he call out Calzaghe?


Are you out your mind? In a boxing match Silva wouldn't be allowed knees and elbows. That's Silva's bread and butter. Jones would kick his ass in a boxing match.

theunderdog
03-12-2008, 04:19 AM
Are you out your mind? In a boxing match Silva wouldn't be allowed knees and elbows. That's Silva's bread and butter. Jones would kick his ass in a boxing match.

i don't know why you are aprehensive. he never said silva would beat him. he said it was funny IF, not will.

chill

T.C.W
03-12-2008, 04:20 AM
Will not happen.

Dynamite Kid
03-12-2008, 04:26 AM
i don't know why you are aprehensive. he never said silva would beat him. he said it was funny IF, not will.

chill

I'm not aprehensive and don't have to chill anything. He said "Jones is so far past it". As if he would would possibly lose. It seems YOUR aprehensive by what I said.

theunderdog
03-12-2008, 04:50 AM
I'm not aprehensive and don't have to chill anything. He said "Jones is so far past it". As if he would would possibly lose. It seems YOUR aprehensive by what I said.

so you think rjj is near prime? you have to be kidding me.

he was saying things hypothetically and you barge is talking about elbows, knees and shit. it was not even the topic.

Action
03-12-2008, 09:38 AM
“UFC is the best fighting the best and that’s what boxing has to do. If you are an ultimate fighter, you are going to fight someone who is going to fight. In UFC, if you lose to a good fighter, you lost, you still know you are good fighter, and you come back the next day and fight again. In boxing, if you lose and that's it. You are done. I lose a few fights, they want to tell me I'm washed up and I don't have it no more." (Roy Jones)

I found this to be an interesting comment. A loss is not nearly as big a deal in MMA. I believe it makes for more interesting matchups because fighters aren't nearly as protective of the OH. Are the fans, like a lot of folks on this board, responsible for not seeing the fights they want because of it? Are we (fans) our own worst enemy?


Good post and good points!

knockout
03-12-2008, 09:41 AM
Jones wins by a DQ from Sliva cuz he will be frustrated and ground pounding Roy.

Action
03-12-2008, 10:45 AM
It is an intriguing match, it would be an interesting promotion and while it lasts should be an exciting bout.

gambleer
03-12-2008, 11:14 AM
Go Silva, the next Eder Jofre !!!

Dynamite Kid
03-12-2008, 04:07 PM
so you think rjj is near prime? you have to be kidding me.

he was saying things hypothetically and you barge is talking about elbows, knees and shit. it was not even the topic.


Exactly:patsch without knees and elbows Silva would get his ass kicked. We're talking about Jones vs Silva in a "BOXING" I think very much on topic. You ask me if I think Roy Jones Jr is near prime? As if he was done with.

marting
03-12-2008, 04:14 PM
He wants a real payday and not the chump change that guys get in the UFC.

Fedor Em
03-12-2008, 04:46 PM
He wants a real payday and not the chump change that guys get in the UFC.

Exactly, fuck Dana White

flem1
03-12-2008, 04:53 PM
i would give Silva a good chance. Remember Silva is the best striker in mma and if he is to fight Roy he would be training only in his boxing making it better than it already is
Are you serious? An MMA fighter's boxing training is a lot different than a pro boxers training. If you think 2 months worth of boxing training by an MMA fighter is enough to give him a chance against Jones Jr., then you must be dreaming..

The old Roy Jones would still be too fast and too powerful for the likes of Anderson Silva who got KOd in his first boxing match years ago..

KDot10
03-12-2008, 05:48 PM
In a boxing match, Roy Jones beats any non boxer, wheather Roy is 39, 49, or uses one arm with both legs in a potato sack.

lol true

Action
03-12-2008, 07:45 PM
Are you serious? An MMA fighter's boxing training is a lot different than a pro boxers training. If you think 2 months worth of boxing training by an MMA fighter is enough to give him a chance against Jones Jr., then you must be dreaming..

The old Roy Jones would still be too fast and too powerful for the likes of Anderson Silva who got KOd in his first boxing match years ago..

Silva is not just an MMA fighter he is the BEST and is as quick and athletic as Jones. He is a southpaw, is 6'2" , in tremendous physical condition and is a powerful puncher (anyone remember a guy named Tarver?) He trains constantly in boxing as well as the other disciplines of fighting. He does not have the extensive boxing background and experience of Jones and that is where the difference is. All things considered Jones should win but Silva has a very good puncher's chance.

Sweet Pea
03-12-2008, 07:59 PM
Silva is not just an MMA fighter he is the BEST and is as quick and athletic as Jones. He is a southpaw, is 6'2" , in tremendous physical condition and is a powerful puncher (anyone remember a guy named Tarver?) He trains constantly in boxing as well as the other disciplines of fighting. He does not have the extensive boxing background and experience of Jones and that is where the difference is. All things considered Jones should win but Silva has a very good puncher's chance.What do you make of his 1-1 boxing record, one of which was a KO loss to a nobody in Brazil? The win was over a 0-0 opponent.

Seriously, cut the shit. He stands as much chance in a boxing match as Jones does in an MMA match.

Action
03-12-2008, 08:06 PM
What do you make of his 1-1 boxing record, one of which was a KO loss to a nobody in Brazil? The win was over a 0-0 opponent.

Seriously, cut the shit. He stands as much chance in a boxing match as Jones does in an MMA match.

Silva's loss was 10 years ago. Again, Jones should win but Silva has a very good puncher's chance early in the fight.

Tencount85
03-12-2008, 08:27 PM
They could bill it as a mma vs boxing thing. both sides would talk shit about one another and shell out cash to make it successful. i like the idea. its good grounds to go to mma forums and talk shit haha

huki
03-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Silva's loss was 10 years ago. Again, Jones should win but Silva has a very good puncher's chance early in the fight.
:rofl

Action
03-12-2008, 11:31 PM
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Ultimate Fighting Championship middleweight titleholder Anderson Silva recently indicated that he would like to challenge Roy Jones, Jr. – once regarded as one of the top pound-for-pound boxers in the world – to a boxing match.

“Anderson really would love to fight Roy Jones, Jr. in a boxing match,” said Ed Soares, Silva’s manager. “It’s not just talk, we really would like to put that fight together.

“We respect Jones’ boxing ability and think he’s one of the best, but we’re tired of different boxers saying that MMA fighters aren’t technical. Anderson would love to fight Roy Jones in a boxing match under boxing rules to prove that MMA fighters are technical, too.”

It now appears that what started out as a dream bout may actually have some merit to it.

Even nationally syndicated sports talk host Jim Rome, on his Rome Is Burning television show on ESPN2, has picked up on the story. He isn’t a big proponent of the bout happening though, saying, “Silva should not box Roy Jones. Where’s the intrigue in that? The whole ‘would MMA beat boxing’ argument is a big waste of time; it’s irrelevant. Silva, the best MMAer in the world would get schooled, even by a way past his prime Roy Jones, if he ever did boxing. He can’t fight his way off the ropes with his knees, just as Jones wouldn’t last a minute with Silva in his cage.”

According to Soares, however, there are other people who think there might be some merit to putting Silva up against Jones in a boxing ring.

“I just spoke with Roy Jones’ management and they are very interested in it. They think it would break all kinds of pay-per-view records. It all kind of started as a dream of Anderson’s, but if the UFC would back it, it is something that we really would like to pursue.”

Jones’ management indicated that this could be a fight that would bring together the fractured factions of boxing and mixed martial arts. “They think it will actually bring together the boxing and MMA communities,” said Soares.

And that would have to be a big part of it, as he continued, “Anderson looks up to Roy Jones, and he would love to test his skills against him. At the same time, we are very loyal to the UFC and would love to represent the UFC in a boxing match with Jones.”

UFC president Dana White has been vocal in the past about a boxer stepping into MMA to challenge his fighters. Prior to his fight with Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, Jr. commented, “(the UFC) ain’t nothing but a fad… These are guys that couldn’t do boxing.” White fired back offering up then lightweight champion Sean Sherk in the Octagon as a proving ground for Mayweather, who then retracted much of what he said.

It is unclear, however, if White is willing to put up Silva in a boxing match, as he was unavailable for comment at the time of publication.

Jones is currently headed out of the country until next week, but his management told Soares that he was “flattered and excited” by Silva’s interest in a boxing match with him. The parties are expected to talk again once Jones returns.