Choc: I want to fight anyone, anytime, anywhere but they all duck me, man!

[Decebal]

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[pecks]

The divisions around him need to grow some nuts and get in the ring with him.

Mundine's aura is like Tong Po's in Kickboxer, so it seems.

[Bomber]

I was thinking more Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon.

[Faetter_BR]

yeah he is full of crap...

[IrnBruMan]

Mundine's becoming more and more of a joke as time goes by.

The only person who doesn't realise this is Mundine himself, and Gay Gavin Stone...and teke...and AJAY11 :yep

[Rise Above]

They dont call him the mouth Mundine for nothing. To bad he can never back up all that talk.

[ozziebattler]

I could bag Mundine allday long but its getting old.

Im actually going to try get some positives out of this upcoming bout.I quess he is staying very active and will probably get another decent workout in this bout.

Sam may be shot but he is a utter professional who will definetly try his best to bring his A game.

I actually believe once Mundine gets this rematch out of the way(should of never been in the contract)then he will shock us all and fight a top tier fighter by year end(not Danny Green).

But im not holdin my breath.

[Decebal]

OK...fellow ESB posters, let's agree to give Choc one more chance. Soliman and that's it...after that, we want someone at least as good as Bika. Deal?:deal

[ozziebattler]

OK...fellow ESB posters, let's agree to give Choc one more chance. Soliman and that's it...after that, we want someone at least as good as Bika. Deal?:deal

Thats what im thinking.

[LeonMcS]

Nah, he ran out of chances long ago in my book. Christ, next time it'll be another #15 because hes got a pimple or something.

[shiner]

when the fark is his mandatory due? he says he is waiting for calzaghe which we all know is crap, but cumdine means nothing to him as he is off fight real fights- ie kessler, hopkins et al. unfortunately keeping active means $'s to wba so they are happy. again smart work by gilligan (aka khoder nasser in that fkd up gilligans hat he wears!!)

[Dantes]

I gave up on the beige superman when he stepped in the ring with Gerard Zoh's and went on to tell everyone he was the greatest.:nut

[Decebal]

Well, I'll give him one more chance, for a fight against Sam. But after that, in May or June, or whenever it is...I will ask: When is he fighting Bika? When is he fighting Kessler?

And until he does...I will give him ZERO respect and underrate him thoroughly.:bart

[pecks]

Well, I'll give him one more chance, for a fight against Sam. But after that, in May or June, or whenever it is...I will ask: When is he fighting Bika? When is he fighting Kessler?

And until he does...I will give him ZERO respect and underrate him thoroughly.:bartHe's ran out of chances imo, thoughI'll just wait until he steps up before I give him my full support again (if that happens.)

But imo, people who want to see him rematch Kessler just want to see him get beaten again. Going by the same mentality, Green should fight Choc again.

Someone mentioned earlier on that Braehmer is his mandatory, and he's injured. I forget who posted that, maybe JB3000.

Braehmer would be a good step up, though a bad risk/reward fight for Choc as Braehmer carries almost no profile, yet those who have seen him and know of his form before he went to prison, know he can bang.

[Decebal]

He's ran out of chances imo, thoughI'll just wait until he steps up before I give him my full support again (if that happens.)

But imo, people who want to see him rematch Kessler just want to see him get beaten again. Going by the same mentality, Green should fight Choc again.

Someone mentioned earlier on that Braehmer is his mandatory, and he's injured. I forget who posted that, maybe JB3000.

Braehmer would be a good step up, though a bad risk/reward fight for Choc as Braehmer carries almost no profile, yet those who have seen him and know of his form before he went to prison, know he can bang.

Braehmer is biding his time for a title shot at the WBO, whilst battling all kinds of personal and health problems...he will not go against Mundine...too dangerous.

Choc says he is one of the best in the world, at any weight. Should have no problems beating Kessler then...

But I'd be happy with Bika, by autumn.

Bute fights Andrade; Mundine fights Bika...then...next year...we ask much more of both!:good

[ajay11]

How about you sad punks think of it like this....

Plenty of World Champs out there fight once a year at best. Many fight their mandatory then pick an easy fight in between meaning that they have one tough challenge every 18 to 24 months!!!

Choc's fighting at least 3 times a year so he'll have the tools sharp come his November super fight (did I say that?) So just put a line through the lesser opponents he has fought and you'll notice that every 12 months he has that decent fight like everyone else, he just slips a few easier ones in between.

Does anyone expect him to fight champs every 4 months?

Sam Soliman has been taking shit saying he had a virus before the last fight and Choc decided that it's worth fitting him in between now and November because Sam's profile lifted after "The Contender" This will help lift Choc's profile in the US before he fights there.

Also there is the very real problem that no one wants to fight him except those looking for a pay day they don't deserve. Calzaghe and Bute have flat out refused (Calzaghe for some time now) and come the day that the WBA call Mundine and Calzaghe together he'll relinquish the title or retire.

So what would you do if you were Mundine?

It's easy to criticize but harder to give answers, ain't it?

Who should he fight...that wants to fight?

So before you all start talking crap think about what he is actually doing.

[Decebal]

Calzaghe and Bute have flat out refused to fight Mundine

Calzaghe was offered crap money...we know; the kind of money that said: "look, I'm making an empty gesture!"

Bute having flatly refused is complete news to me! I haven't heard anything about Bute and Mundine even considering fighting each other...do you have a link/more to add?

[pecks]

Ajay, didn't you say before that we'd all be very surprised at his next opponent (insinuating that he was going to take on a big gun of the division)?!

[stiflers mum]

Ajay, didn't you say before that we'd all be very surprised at his next opponent (insinuating that he was going to take on a big gun of the division)?!
Yes he did. surprised and in awe were his words.:lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl

[JOSEY WALES]

:happyCalzaghe was offered crap money...we know; the kind of money that said: "look, I'm making an empty gesture!"

Bute having flatly refused is complete news to me! I haven't heard anything about Bute and Mundine even considering fighting each other...do you have a link/more to add?:deal

[Hmmm]

Yes he did. I remember - I was pleasantly "shocked"... :yep

[JOSEY WALES]

Yes he did. I remember - I was pleasantly "shocked"... :yep What ? Did Bute really duck out of a fight with Mundine ? I now DEC is right about the Calzaghe offer being feeble ( £8,000,000 ) was the figure i heared but i never heared Bute ducked Mundine , May be he offered Lucian the same £8,000,000 tht Joe Laughed At ..:yep

[IrnBruMan]

How about you sad punks think of it like this....

Plenty of World Champs out there

Sorry mate, I stopped reading at this point because Mundine isn't a world champ, and even if you acknoweldge his second-tier title, he's only been 'second-tier champ' for 12 months.

[MSTR]

How about you sad punks think of it like this....

Plenty of World Champs out there fight once a year at best. Many fight their mandatory then pick an easy fight in between meaning that they have one tough challenge every 18 to 24 months!!!

Choc's fighting at least 3 times a year so he'll have the tools sharp come his November super fight (did I say that?) So just put a line through the lesser opponents he has fought and you'll notice that every 12 months he has that decent fight like everyone else, he just slips a few easier ones in between.

Does anyone expect him to fight champs every 4 months?

Sam Soliman has been taking shit saying he had a virus before the last fight and Choc decided that it's worth fitting him in between now and November because Sam's profile lifted after "The Contender" This will help lift Choc's profile in the US before he fights there.

Also there is the very real problem that no one wants to fight him except those looking for a pay day they don't deserve. Calzaghe and Bute have flat out refused (Calzaghe for some time now) and come the day that the WBA call Mundine and Calzaghe together he'll relinquish the title or retire.

So what would you do if you were Mundine?

It's easy to criticize but harder to give answers, ain't it?

Who should he fight...that wants to fight?

So before you all start talking crap think about what he is actually doing.

This is one of the WORST and most BIASED posts i have seen in a while. Lets have a look at some ACTUAL world champs from other divisions and see how they compare: Kelly Pavlik during 2007 fought against Zuniga (Dangerous top ten middleweight), Miranda (highly regarded KO artist and top contender in the division), and Taylor (undisputed middleweight champion of the world. From December 06 until December 07, Miguel Cotto fought against: Carlos Quintana (undefeated and highly regarded prospect, current world champion), Otkay Urkal (top 10 Welterweight contender), Zab Judah (former undisputed champion and top 3 in the welterweight division) and the HOF, and multiple weight world champion Shane Mosley. Marco Antonio Barrera just missed out on making 3 boughts during a year. His two fights however where against 2 of the TOP 5 p4p best fighters in the world.

[MSTR]

ANthony Mundine in comparison, has fought two Argie bums in the past year, WHO NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN SANCTIONED. It was an absolute joke, and a disgrace to boxing. Before that he fought Sam Soliman, a credible opponent, but nothing earth shattering. Sam was not a world champ, merely a contender who was fighting up a division. The Soliman fight would have been considered a "keep busy" fight for most "real" world champs. For Mundine though, this constitutes a super fight. A super or big fight, is supposed to be unification, or fighting a very highly regarded opponent.

[MSTR]

To summarise this guys bullshit for all the people with better things to do then read it, its basically like this: * I love mundine, mundine is a real world champion. Mundine fighter 3-4 bums a year should be the equivalent of fighting 2-3 truely great fighters a year IMO. The rest is just biased Mundine nuthugging. He fails to cover exactly why we should have been "shocked" at Mundine next opponent. Obviously he doesn't care that he has zero credibility on these boards. ^^^^^^ = My interpretation of your post. You've got zero credibility here mate, save us all some time next time and stick to jerking off over Chocs picture. At least then you might have something to show for your efforts.

[teke]

Mundine's becoming more and more of a joke as time goes by.

The only person who doesn't realise this is Mundine himself, and Gay Gavin Stone...and teke...and AJAY11 :yep...and yet you convince yourself Green can beat this joke

[IrnBruMan]

...and yet you convince yourself Green can beat this joke

I give Green more chance at LHW of beating Mundine than he had at SMW (especially the Green that Mundine fought that night - come on, don't tell me you thought that was prime/100% Green?), yes, but I still think it's more likely that Mundine will beat him.

Besides, Ottke, Siaca and Kessler all beat this joke...Siaca man, hehehe

[one in a million]

To tell you the truth I'm kinda sick of hearing about Mundine and Green, it's so repetitive. I hope Jeff gives it a go and Briggs brings in some more colour to the Australian boxing industry!

[teke]

I give Green more chance at LHW of beating Mundine than he had at SMW (especially the Green that Mundine fought that night - come on, don't tell me you thought that was prime/100% Green?):lol::lol: I actually give Green a better chance of beating Mundine now than back then.

[teke]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]'ethe little SMW gossip queen :lol:

You always have little articles here and there to start a thread :good

[MSTR]

To tell you the truth I'm kinda sick of hearing about Mundine and Green, it's so repetitive. I hope Jeff gives it a go and Briggs brings in some more colour to the Australian boxing industry! Agreed. Looking forward to seeing Katsidis and Pittman in action especially.

[ozziebattler]

You'ethe little SMW gossip queen :lol:

You always have little articles here and there to start a thread :good

Thats because he has no life other then posting on esb..

And rooting dogs:deal

[MSTR]

Thats because he has no life other then posting on esb..

And rooting dogs:deal Thats a bit rough mate hahaha. I take it you don't like him then? Why so?

[Faetter_BR]

OK...fellow ESB posters, let's agree to give Choc one more chance. Soliman and that's it...after that, we want someone at least as good as Bika. Deal?:deal

Nope ... one easy defense once in awhile is ok - but not this many ... this is a f*cking joke.

[CarltonBlues]

Well it's kinda sad but at least I get to go, when do the tickets go on sale?

It will be the most hostile reception Choc has ever had!

[Decebal]

You'ethe little SMW gossip queen :lol:

You always have little articles here and there to start a thread :good

:yep

[JOSEY WALES]

Maybe you shouldn't.t go. The fans has some real power when they demand some good fights. Latest Kessler - Calzaghe, Calzaghe - Hopkins and Hatton - Maywether.
Are Aussie boxing fans critical enough? Good point Jan ( DK ) ,I made a similar protest when Calzaghe fougt a border line top 10 s/middle by th name of Peter Manfredo , I did go e my mate having a free ticket for me and it being fought two miles from my home in Cardiff ,Sadly 35,000 of my countrymen didn't help me in my protest :fire ,Blues is right to go as one man protests are futile when there are enough FANBOYS to pay the wages , the talk when Joe fought Manfredo if you remember was Calzaghe was only fighting Manfedo as he was Tv Boxer in the states with a big name , Well i reckon they are right in that respect as that fight and the exposure he recived in beating a then true P4P top ten in Kessler teed up his $ 20,000,000 pay off fight against Hopkins . Choco WILL HAVE TO EITHER SHIT SOON OR GET OF THE POT ,

[T.C.W]

he should be fighting bika

[JOSEY WALES]

You'ethe little SMW gossip queen :lol:

You always have little articles here and there to start a thread :good keep them coming mate . :happyfunny as fu*k well worth a scan of the aussie forum ,reading Ajays comments was just as funny ,Hell i would even have a few quid on Ajay being the :nut himself , coming out with shit like that .

[ashley]

All I can say is this fight is crap. I dont want to see Mundine smash Sam all over the ring again.

I think Mundine lost a great chance to get a good profile by fighting bika after his contender win.

Lets pray Mundine fights Bika in October.

On another note aint Joe giving up the real WBA SMW title in a month?

[JOSEY WALES]

All I can say is this fight is crap. I dont want to see Mundine smash Sam all over the ring again.

I think Mundine lost a great chance to get a good profile by fighting bika after his contender win.

Lets pray Mundine fights Bika in October.

On another note aint Joe giving up the real WBA SMW title in a month? He will either give it up or cancel his $20,000,000 fight to defend it down under against Chic'o Mundine .. LMAO

[Faetter_BR]

He will either give it up or cancel his $20,000,000 fight to defend it down under against Chic'o Mundine .. LMAO

Well his Hopkins fight isn't in SMW - so he keeps his belts for now. As Pavlik did when rematching Taylor in another weightclass.

[JOSEY WALES]

Well his Hopkins fight isn't in SMW - so he keeps his belts for now. As Pavlik did when rematching Taylor in another weightclass. He will probably be stripped of it before april imo , when that happens Mundine should be forced to fight kessler for the vacant WBA proper title as soon as this happens . instead of fighting Sam AGAIN ,

[LeonMcS]

I just cant understand why you guys aren't clamouring for the Guy Waters rematch like me.

[Steel Kelly]

OK...fellow ESB posters, let's agree to give Choc one more chance. Soliman and that's it...after that, we want someone at least as good as Bika. Deal?:dealNo deal! It's a Kessler rematch, Calzaghe, Froch, or
Taylor or bust as far as Mundine's credibility is concerned which i might add is pretty low. Bika is another waste of time IMO.

[Decebal]

No deal! It's a Kessler rematch, Calzaghe, Froch, or
Taylor or bust as far as Mundine's credibility is concerned which i might add is pretty low. Bika is another waste of time IMO.

Bika is a waste of time too? In that case, forget it! Mundine won't fight anyone better than Bika this year!:verysad

[Steel Kelly]

Bika is a waste of time too? In that case, forget it! Mundine won't fight anyone better than Bika this year!:verysadI only say that because Mundine would box Bika's ears off, this man has talent to burn and he is wasting everybody's time including his own!

[Decebal]

I only say that because Mundine would box Bika's ears off, this man has talent to burn and he is wasting everybody's time including his own!

:good

[oztriker]

How about you sad punks think of it like this....

Plenty of World Champs out there fight once a year at best. Many fight their mandatory then pick an easy fight in between meaning that they have one tough challenge every 18 to 24 months!!!

Choc's fighting at least 3 times a year so he'll have the tools sharp come his November super fight (did I say that?) So just put a line through the lesser opponents he has fought and you'll notice that every 12 months he has that decent fight like everyone else, he just slips a few easier ones in between.

Does anyone expect him to fight champs every 4 months?

Sam Soliman has been taking shit saying he had a virus before the last fight and Choc decided that it's worth fitting him in between now and November because Sam's profile lifted after "The Contender" This will help lift Choc's profile in the US before he fights there.

Also there is the very real problem that no one wants to fight him except those looking for a pay day they don't deserve. Calzaghe and Bute have flat out refused (Calzaghe for some time now) and come the day that the WBA call Mundine and Calzaghe together he'll relinquish the title or retire.

So what would you do if you were Mundine?

It's easy to criticize but harder to give answers, ain't it?

Who should he fight...that wants to fight?

So before you all start talking crap think about what he is actually doing.

OK.... You have proved your point.:deal

You are very definitely "BRAINDEAD":patsch

Which part of "Mundine has refused 2 Mandatory opportunities against Kessler" Don't you understand?

In all seriousness....I strongly suggest that you spend a day standing in a carwash....perhaps the constant watering might grow you a brain.:roll:

[JOSEY WALES]

OK.... You have proved your point.:deal

You are very definitely "BRAINDEAD":patsch

Which part of "Mundine has refused 2 Mandatory opportunities against Kessler" Don't you understand?

In all seriousness....I strongly suggest that you spend a day standing in a carwash....perhaps the constant watering might grow you a brain.:roll::rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :good

[dwilson]

Choc "I'll fight anyone, anywhere, anytime but only if the fight is in Sydney and if the fighter is a shit bum that no one has heard of and he must have no punching power and be really slow so that I look really skilled and can keep talking bullshit about how great I am",

"I want extremely dangerous fighters like Sam Soliman, I aint afraid of no one".

[oztriker]

Choc "I'll fight anyone, anywhere, anytime but only if the fight is in Sydney and if the fighter is a shit bum that no one has heard of and he must have no punching power and be really slow so that I look really skilled and can keep talking bullshit about how great I am",

"I want extremely dangerous fighters like Sam Soliman, I aint afraid of no one".


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Steel Kelly]

Choc "I'll fight anyone, anywhere, anytime but only if the fight is in Sydney and if the fighter is a shit bum that no one has heard of and he must have no punching power and be really slow so that I look really skilled and can keep talking bullshit about how great I am",

"I want extremely dangerous fighters like Sam Soliman, I aint afraid of no one".The only danger Soliman poses for Mundine is he may get Windburn from the amount of punches Soliman throws and MISSES!!!!

[pecks]

OK.... You have proved your point.:deal

You are very definitely "BRAINDEAD":patsch

Which part of "Mundine has refused 2 Mandatory opportunities against Kessler" Don't you understand?

In all seriousness....I strongly suggest that you spend a day standing in a carwash....perhaps the constant watering might grow you a brain.:roll:Hey Oz, I don't doubt you've heard this from someone, but when did Mundine refuse these two mandatory challenges?

From what I can recall, Mundine stepped aside to let him unify belts twice on the proviso that he'd get a shot at him afterwards (assuming he won). It's not really refusing to fight the guy.

[teke]

Hey Oz, I don't doubt you've heard this from someone, but when did Mundine refuse these two mandatory challenges?

From what I can recall, Mundine stepped aside to let him unify belts twice on the proviso that he'd get a shot at him afterwards (assuming he won). It's not really refusing to fight the guy.Dont expect an answer from a dude that has dogged us Aussie and spends most of his time in the lounge :bart

If he does answer dont believe him cause we both know he is Hater number 1 :yep

[VIP]

Mundine never ducked Kessler, it's the other way around. If he wanted to duck Kessler he would have gone a different route besides the WBA.

This is what Mundine needs to do....he needs to whip the shit out of Soliman again, then whip Bika, then set up a bigger fight later this year, hopefully not Green though.

[teke]

Mundine never ducked Kessler, it's the other way around. If he wanted to duck Kessler he would have gone a different route besides the WBA.

This is what Mundine needs to do....he needs to whip the shit out of Soliman again, then whip Bika, then set up a bigger fight later this year, hopefully not Green though.Bingo, if he was trying to escape Kessler he would be as far away from the WBA as he could be.

He will whip Sam, Bika and Green within the next 16 months.

[Decebal]

Bingo, if he was trying to escape Kessler he would be as far away from the WBA as he could be.

He will whip Sam, Bika and Green within the next 16 months.

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

And here was I was thinking you had become rehabilitated as an upstanding, clear-headed memeber of the boxing community...:patsch

Mundine got involved with the WBA well before Kessler took an interest in it! He beat Echols for the vacant title in 2003 and lost it to Siaca in 2004, from which Kessler won it later on in the year.

Mundine could have decided not to take up his mandatory position, but what would have been the point in that? He thought he was good enough to beat Kessler! Now he knows better! He wasn't ducking Kessler then! He's ducking him NOW!:deal :deal :deal

[Rise Above]

He will whip Sam, Bika and Green within the next 16 months.

So when is he going to start fighting decent opposition ? :hey

[teke]

So when is he going to start fighting decent opposition ? :heyso that list isnt decent?

WBA light heavyweight Champ?

Everyone that steps into the ring with the Man ends up looking very ordinary. Word :cool:

[teke]

Fellas im after some information regarding a 1) Mr Big Red MEat Axe, and 2) Scatter.

[Rise Above]

so that list isnt decent?

WBA light heavyweight Champ?

Everyone that steps into the ring with the Man ends up looking very ordinary. Word :cool:
I must admit Green is decent as is Bika but Mundine definitely has the style to beat them every time. He needs to look at Bute, Lacy, Andrade, Froch, Green etc. Why fight guys he has already soundly beaten.

[Decebal]

Let's not kid ourselves here; a fight against Sakio would really be a step-up in class for Choc, these days...he won't have fought a better/tougher fighter for over two and possibly, over three years...:deal :deal :deal

[Steel Kelly]

so that list isnt decent?

WBA light heavyweight Champ?

Everyone that steps into the ring with the Man ends up looking very ordinary. Word :cool:He has already beaten Soiliman twice and beat Green easily too, Bika has no chance so why not got to the USA and fight an A lister?
Mundine's career is at the crossroads and he has only himself to blame for that and a lack of crediibilty with the majority of boxing fans.

[ajay11]

He will probably be stripped of it before april imo , when that happens Mundine should be forced to fight kessler for the vacant WBA proper title as soon as this happens . instead of fighting Sam AGAIN ,

Mate I thought you knew a thing or two about boxing. The WBA gives the super champion 22 months to fight the regular champ. Since Calzaghe won that off Kessler he still has some time before he will be requested to fight Choc. The only other way he would have the title stripped is if he doesn't fight in a WBA sanctioned fight in the super middleweight division before November.

[ajay11]

I must admit Green is decent as is Bika but Mundine definitely has the style to beat them every time. He needs to look at Bute, Lacy, Andrade, Froch, Green etc. Why fight guys he has already soundly beaten.

He is planning to have a big fight in the USA before the end of the year but believes he can raise his profile over there by giving Sam a rematch. Also he wants to have a decent fight soon and the earliest he can schedual the US fight is late October, which he feels is to far away.

As for those of you wanting to know if an offical offer was made from Mundine to Bute, the answer is no.....I just threw that in because I like talking shit. Fact is that not one of the current super middleweight champions will negotiate, and it's got nothing to do with poor offers because Choc is prepared to fight in their backyard and have them promote the fight.

It's nothing new to have boxing fans bag Mundine, it don't bother him so why should it bother me. I do find it bizarre that people bag Choc for the guys he fights because when you take a look at Calzaghe's record it ain't a who's who of the boxing world. In fact the majority are Europeans who have been protected species until the time comes to fight Joe. It's only been recently that Calzaghe has lifted his game although considering he has fought approx. 500 more rounds than Choc (pro + amateur) it's been a long time coming.

I know I aint going to make anyone change their opinion of him but to those of you that have been Mundine fans I promise you this, bragging rights aren't far away.

[ajay11]

OK.... You have proved your point.:deal

You are very definitely "BRAINDEAD":patsch

Which part of "Mundine has refused 2 Mandatory opportunities against Kessler" Don't you understand?

In all seriousness....I strongly suggest that you spend a day standing in a carwash....perhaps the constant watering might grow you a brain.:roll:

That's a neat trick pulling that out your arse. What else you got hiding up there?

Mundine has not refused to fight Kessler. Infact should Kessler win his upcoming bout then a fight against Kessler has been considered a back up plan should the US fight fall through (which would happen should his considerd opponent lose his next fight.)

And no, I don't know who that is as I'm not privy to that information. I'm just a Mundine nuthugger that occasionally finds rumours and speculation slipped up my arsehole.

[teke]

That's a neat trick pulling that out your arse. What else you got hiding up there?

:lol::lol:

You'd be surprised Ajay, i think Jack Daniels just fell out






























just joking JD :yep

[T.C.W]

He is planning to have a big fight in the USA before the end of the year but believes he can raise his profile over there by giving Sam a rematch. Also he wants to have a decent fight soon and the earliest he can schedual the US fight is late October, which he feels is to far away.

As for those of you wanting to know if an offical offer was made from Mundine to Bute, the answer is no.....I just threw that in because I like talking shit. Fact is that not one of the current super middleweight champions will negotiate, and it's got nothing to do with poor offers because Choc is prepared to fight in their backyard and have them promote the fight.

It's nothing new to have boxing fans bag Mundine, it don't bother him so why should it bother me. I do find it bizarre that people bag Choc for the guys he fights because when you take a look at Calzaghe's record it ain't a who's who of the boxing world. In fact the majority are Europeans who have been protected species until the time comes to fight Joe. It's only been recently that Calzaghe has lifted his game although considering he has fought approx. 500 more rounds than Choc (pro + amateur) it's been a long time coming.

I know I aint going to make anyone change their opinion of him but to those of you that have been Mundine fans I promise you this, bragging rights aren't far away.I know what you are saying but the hate on here is Mundine making, It is very simple if you talk like Mundine which very big and I'm going to do this and that.

You must fight big, no argie's with no chance of winning, it must be talented fighters for ever defence of the title who come over here and the Public thinks that they have a chance of beating mundine in the fight.

Which mundine is not doing. I know other fights get past mark with a couple easy fights here and there and no one cares, just like Danny Green has for example since the mundine fight but Green is not shouting from the roof top about his greatness and he is better than Don Bradman and all this other rubbish that comes out of his mouth. It is a bit of a catch 22 for mundine his mouth has made him a lot of money but now he is starting to look stupid to hardcore boxing fan with some off these fights.

People are becoming piss off with it all, I hope you are right with this big step up for Mundine after the second soliman fight because it is needed and he needs to fight the likes of Bika,Lacy,frock, Fighters who the boxing fans Know are in the top 10 of the divsion.

[ozziebattler]

I just threw that in because I like talking shit.

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Yes it seems you do..

Do you even know choc???

You are sounding like some bloke that knows a friend of a friend of a friend of choc's mums dogwalker.

[Faetter_BR]

He is planning to have a big fight in the USA before the end of the year but believes he can raise his profile over there by giving Sam a rematch. Also he wants to have a decent fight soon and the earliest he can schedual the US fight is late October, which he feels is to far away.

As for those of you wanting to know if an offical offer was made from Mundine to Bute, the answer is no.....I just threw that in because I like talking shit. Fact is that not one of the current super middleweight champions will negotiate, and it's got nothing to do with poor offers because Choc is prepared to fight in their backyard and have them promote the fight.

It's nothing new to have boxing fans bag Mundine, it don't bother him so why should it bother me. I do find it bizarre that people bag Choc for the guys he fights because when you take a look at Calzaghe's record it ain't a who's who of the boxing world. In fact the majority are Europeans who have been protected species until the time comes to fight Joe. It's only been recently that Calzaghe has lifted his game although considering he has fought approx. 500 more rounds than Choc (pro + amateur) it's been a long time coming.

I know I aint going to make anyone change their opinion of him but to those of you that have been Mundine fans I promise you this, bragging rights aren't far away.

Calzaghe's record isn't the best in the world - sure. He has a few ordinary fighters in his 20 defenses - but he has no-one that even comes close to Zamora, Clavero and present day Hamdan - no-one!!! - the closest thing to those fighters are Ashira, Manfredo and Bika - all fights that would be considered a step up for Mundine!

Hell old man Larsen is fighting better opponents than Mundine and he is just making a comeback - not defending his WBA "title"...

Soliman II to build his name in the US - if you believe that sh*t then you'll believe anything - only thing that fight is building in the US (and everywhere else) is the reputation that Mundine is the dude that Ottke KO'd, who is now fighting nobodies at home on PPV-cards that people for some reason keep buying.

[pecks]

Soliman II to build his name in the US - if you believe that sh*t then you'll believe anything Soliman III that'd be. :D

[Faetter_BR]

Soliman III that'd be. :D

Well they do likes sequals... :smoke

[teke]

ying Soliman II to build his name in the US - if you believe that sh*t then you'll believe anything - only thing that fight is building in the US (and everywhere else) is the reputation that Mundine is the dude that Ottke KO'd, who is now fighting nobodies at home on PPV-cards that people for some reason keep buying.If you believe people are buying his fights at home then you'll believe anything. The reason his fights are PPV is because he is a big name athlete here in Aust and pubs cash in on the people coming to watch him win (most hope he gets flogged).

Pubs all around Aust love it when he fights.

[Faetter_BR]

ying If you believe people are buying his fights at home then you'll believe anything. The reason his fights are PPV is because he is a big name athlete here in Aust and pubs cash in on the people coming to watch him win (most hope he gets flogged).

Pubs all around Aust love it when he fights.

Well he must be selling something as he keeps this cirkus going - he now going for a recordbreaking 4th totally meaningless defense

[oztriker]

That's a neat trick pulling that out your arse. What else you got hiding up there?

Mundine has not refused to fight Kessler. Infact should Kessler win his upcoming bout then a fight against Kessler has been considered a back up plan should the US fight fall through (which would happen should his considerd opponent lose his next fight.):rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

And no, I don't know who that is as I'm not privy to that information. I'm just a Mundine nuthugger that occasionally finds rumours and speculation slipped up my arsehole.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Why are you telling us shit we already know?


At least we are in total agreement on something :yep

[stuistylee]

[Only registered and activated users can see links] this shit b4.........somewhere...

[oztriker]

ying If you believe people are buying his fights at home then you'll believe anything. The reason his fights are PPV is because he is a big name athlete here in Aust and pubs cash in on the people coming to watch him win (most hope he gets flogged).

Pubs all around Aust love it when he fights.

Wrong mate..... Very few Pubs are taking Mundines fights on the Central Coast.:bart

You want to watch another debacle....You need to go to a Leagues Club...or go hang round Redfern for a while.... Try and look unemployed....drugfucked and pissed and you are bound to score a handful of free tickets. (Come to think of it...You will fit in quitewell) :yep

He has to give them away....can't sell the fuckers....There aren't that many stupid people in Australia.:lol: :lol:

[teke]

Wrong mate..... Very few Pubs are taking Mundines fights on the Central Coast.:bart

You want to watch another debacle....You need to go to a Leagues Club...or go hang round Redfern for a while.... Try and look unemployed....drugfucked and pissed and you are bound to score a handful of free tickets. (Come to think of it...You will fit in quitewell) :yep

He has to give them away....can't sell the fuckers....There aren't that many stupid people in Australia.:lol: :lol:Im wrong because very few pubs are taking the mundine fights on the central coast? A fair few pubs are taking thefights up here probably more than those buying it at home :lol:

[oztriker]

Im wrong because very few pubs are taking the mundine fights on the central coast? A fair few pubs are taking thefights up here probably more than those buying it at home :lol:

:patsch FFS!.... I thought fucking sheep was supposed to improve the brain cells.

I didn't say that more people were buying his fights at home....:-(

I said fewer pubs are taking his fights...

Tell OZ the truth...You've been fucking goats again.... It does this to you every time.:roll:

[T.C.W]

I agree the last 2 fight would not have done that well because the public can't be fooled and mundine needs to match what comes out of his mouth. The soliman fight wil do alright but he needs to step up after that and I hope he does so because people are starting to get sick of all this horse shit he talks and only fights a top guy once a year and then has 2 gimme type of fights

[teke]

:patsch FFS!.... I thought fucking sheep was supposed to improve the brain cells.

I didn't say that more people were buying his fights at home....:-(

I said fewer pubs are taking his fights...

Tell OZ the truth...You've been fucking goats again.... It does this to you every time.:roll:you told me i was wrong cause down in hicksville hardly any pubs take the fights, fair enough.

I commented that plenty of club up here take the fights then i added probably more than those who buy it at home then laughed, it was a not meant to prove or disprove your statement, it was a general comment from me :patsch

Now beat it back to the lounge :hi:

[teke]

Mundine vs Winkly Wright anyone :good

[oztriker]

you told me i was wrong cause down in hicksville hardly any pubs take the fights, fair enough.

I commented that plenty of club up here take the fights then i added probably more than those who buy it at home then laughed, it was a not meant to prove or disprove your statement, it was a general comment from me :patsch

Now beat it back to the lounge :hi:

You are premestrual again...right? :D

[teke]

You are premestrual again...right? :Dyou might need to stick a "n" in there, get your daughter to spell check before posting :yep

Ouch you just got burnt Ozstyle :D

[oztriker]

you might need to stick a "n" in there, get your daughter to spell check before posting :yep

Ouch you just got burnt Ozstyle :D

Not really if a Typo is the the best you can come up with....:-(

You have proven that I need reading glasses:(

I have proven Mundine needs to grow a set of testicles:hey

And I've proven you need to wear a pad under your skirt....:admin


Fair Trade I reckon:deal

[teke]

Not really if a Typo is the the best you can come up with....:-(

You have proven that I need reading glasses:(

I have proven Mundine needs to grow a set of testicles:hey

And I've proven you need to wear a pad under your skirt....:admin


Fair Trade I reckon:deal:lol:

..and we've proven you are currently bored and want some bites, I should not have bitten :-( :patsch

[T.C.W]

Not really if a Typo is the the best you can come up with....:-(

You have proven that I need reading glasses:(

I have proven Mundine needs to grow a set of testicles:hey

And I've proven you need to wear a pad under your skirt....:admin


Fair Trade I reckon:dealDo you give Mundine any credit at all OZ, the way you talk about him he should be 0-30

[ajay11]

Not really if a Typo is the the best you can come up with....:-(

You have proven that I need reading glasses:(

I have proven Mundine needs to grow a set of testicles:hey

And I've proven you need to wear a pad under your skirt....:admin


Fair Trade I reckon:deal

What have you really proven except that you're just another bullshit artist that had a vagenis at birth?

Choc's fighting Sam 3 months after Hamdan. If he went 10 months from Hamdan to say....Jermain Taylor, would that be better?

So what does it matter if he honours his rematch agreement that Sam wants to go ahead in between now and then?

[ajay11]

Calzaghe's record isn't the best in the world - sure. He has a few ordinary fighters in his 20 defenses - but he has no-one that even comes close to Zamora, Clavero and present day Hamdan - no-one!!! - the closest thing to those fighters are Ashira, Manfredo and Bika - all fights that would be considered a step up for Mundine!

Hell old man Larsen is fighting better opponents than Mundine and he is just making a comeback - not defending his WBA "title"...

Soliman II to build his name in the US - if you believe that sh*t then you'll believe anything - only thing that fight is building in the US (and everywhere else) is the reputation that Mundine is the dude that Ottke KO'd, who is now fighting nobodies at home on PPV-cards that people for some reason keep buying.

Let's not bullshit around. Calzaghe fought Tocker Pudwill in his 13th defence of his title. After that he has fought guys like Mger Mkrtchian and Kabary Salem as well as Ashira, Manfredo and Bika !!!

Danny Green's four fights after his loss to Choc would all get beaten by Soliman or Hamdan.

The point is that there was no reason for Joe to fight these guys who were far from champion quality with such vast pro and amateur experience that Joe had under his belt. More important is the fact that CALZAGHE HAD CHAMPIONS CALLING HIM OUT WHICH HE FLATLY REFUSED....for Choc that's not the case.

Mundine has decided to fight Sam 3 months after Hamdan, which tells you simply that he wants another fight ASAP.

Why do you think that it is? If he didn't want big fights he'd stall and have these fights 8-12 months apart like some guys do (THINK ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU RESPOND). No, he's trying to get as many rounds in before he goes off to fight abroad and the feeling is that after this fight he'll be ready to go.

[ajay11]

Yes it seems you do..

Do you even know choc???

You are sounding like some bloke that knows a friend of a friend of a friend of choc's mums dogwalker.

Actually I'm a friend of the dog (it's a bestiallity thing)

[ozziebattler]

Actually I'm a friend of the dog (it's a bestiallity thing)

Always thought u were a dogrooter.

[JOSEY WALES]

Let's not bullshit around. Calzaghe fought Tocker Pudwill in his 13th defence of his title. After that he has fought guys like Mger Mkrtchian and Kabary Salem as well as Ashira, Manfredo and Bika !!!

Danny Green's four fights after his loss to Choc would all get beaten by Soliman or Hamdan.

The point is that there was no reason for Joe to fight these guys who were far from champion quality with such vast pro and amateur experience that Joe had under his belt. More important is the fact that CALZAGHE HAD CHAMPIONS CALLING HIM OUT WHICH HE FLATLY REFUSED....for Choc that's not the case.

Mundine has decided to fight Sam 3 months after Hamdan, which tells you simply that he wants another fight ASAP.

Why do you think that it is? If he didn't want big fights he'd stall and have these fights 8-12 months apart like some guys do (THINK ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU RESPOND). No, he's trying to get as many rounds in before he goes off to fight abroad and the feeling is that after this fight he'll be ready to go. AH , Ajay just a few questions for you fella ( Being as you seem to think you know it all ) 1 , Please name these fighters Calzaghe flatly refused to fight after being called out by them ..2 , Why did Joe fight Tocker Pudwill ? and 3 , With this news of Greenie jacking it in will Mundine fight abroad now after he beats up Sam or recall an argie cabbie for his next PPV rip off ? This will be a Great oppotunity for Choc to show the balls he seems to only show you .. Regards Josey wales :bbb :bbb :bbb Ps i will check your reply later .

[JOSEY WALES]

AH , Ajay just a few questions for you fella ( Being as you seem to think you know it all ) 1 , Please name these fighters Calzaghe flatly refused to fight after being called out by them ..2 , Why did Joe fight Tocker Pudwill ? and 3 , With this news of Greenie jacking it in will Mundine fight abroad now after he beats up Sam or recall an argie cabbie for his next PPV rip off ? This will be a Great oppotunity for Choc to show the balls he seems to only show you .. Regards Josey wales :bbb :bbb :bbb Ps i will check your reply later . Tick Tock Tick Tock :hi:

[ozziebattler]

Tick Tock Tick Tock :hi:

Sorry ajay is currently abusing dogs.

[JOSEY WALES]

Sorry ajay is currently abusing dogs. :yep Hey Oz i would have thought Tocker would have been LAST name Ajay would have come up with to slag anyone off lol ,after all at least Tocker lost a close title fight to NONE OTHER THAN .....Old Iorn fist :deal Ps how is the new Nipper doing ? :good

[JOSEY WALES]

Let's not bullshit around. Calzaghe fought Tocker Pudwill in his 13th defence of his title. After that he has fought guys like Mger Mkrtchian and Kabary Salem as well as Ashira, Manfredo and Bika !!!

Danny Green's four fights after his loss to Choc would all get beaten by Soliman or Hamdan.

The point is that there was no reason for Joe to fight these guys who were far from champion quality with such vast pro and amateur experience that Joe had under his belt. More important is the fact that CALZAGHE HAD CHAMPIONS CALLING HIM OUT WHICH HE FLATLY REFUSED....for Choc that's not the case.

Mundine has decided to fight Sam 3 months after Hamdan, which tells you simply that he wants another fight ASAP.

Why do you think that it is? If he didn't want big fights he'd stall and have these fights 8-12 months apart like some guys do (THINK ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU RESPOND). No, he's trying to get as many rounds in before he goes off to fight abroad and the feeling is that after this fight he'll be ready to go. Tick Tock , That must be one fast dog AJAY ..........;)

[KO Boxing]

Calzaghe's record isn't the best in the world - sure. He has a few ordinary fighters in his 20 defenses - but he has no-one that even comes close to Zamora, Clavero and present day Hamdan - no-one!!! - the closest thing to those fighters are Ashira, Manfredo and Bika - all fights that would be considered a step up for Mundine!
:huh

The bad thing for Calzaghe is that Ashira, Mandredo and Bika are NOT his worst fights (well maybe Manfredo, but at least Ashira was a former world champ and Bika has been doing decent things as of late). Hell, he even "defended" his title against Ricky Thornberry (a DISTANCE fight at that), whereas Mundine stopped him after only 15 fights...

So I'd put him (Thornbery) above those other three, as I would the following other Calzaghe victims: Branko Sobot, Tocker Pudwill and even guys like Jimenez, McIntyre and Ferreyra had blown up European records and were either shut-out or brtually stopped EVERY time they fought a "decent" fighter.

Also, I'd rate Mundine as Kessler's best WIN as to date, imHo

[JOSEY WALES]

Ko Boxing , Dont be too hard on Rick Thornberry mate he was tough and 35 years old in his last ever fight when choc be him , Also Mcintyre was a mandatory and Cazaghe fought him on neutral ground in Denmark and put him on his arse for the first time in a 30 fight career that he'd only lost in twice , Moving on to this "Joke Fighter " Tocker pudwill , well fair go to Tocker as he stepped into the fight as a late replacement for Thomas Tate who shit his pants and called off with 7 days to go before the fight . Tocker also went the distance with Ottke in a title fight where as Mundine couldn't so all in all Calzaghe's record ain't as bad as you and Ajay are making out .

[Decebal]

So...will Choc want to fight Kessler, in a couple of months, in his own backyard or, why not, even in Denmark? Or is Kessler ducking him?

:D

[JOSEY WALES]

Andrade was Kesslers best win to date imo ,

[Decebal]

Andrade was Kesslers best win to date imo ,

It was certainly his hardest fight.

[KO Boxing]

Tocker also went the distance with Ottke in a title fight where as Mundine couldn't so.
:lol:

...

Wasn't trying to make Calzaghe's record looks bad (imo, it does that itself, but that's another topic). Was just replying to a comment that Bika, Manfredo and Ashira were his worst opponents. I personally beg to differ. That's all.

Calzaghe's resume is certaintly superior to that of Mundine's, 100%. But then again, apart from over-the-top nuthuggers, no one claims Mundine is a top ten p4per and even claim him to be the best fighter of this generation (as some do for Calzaghe, which is a joke).

And I still rate Mundine as his (Kessler's) best win. I'd love Mundine to get a fight with Andrade (won't happen)... I see him winning a 116-112 type decision.

[JOSEY WALES]

:lol:

...

Wasn't trying to make Calzaghe's record looks bad (imo, it does that itself, but that's another topic). Was just replying to a comment that Bika, Manfredo and Ashira were his worst opponents. I personally beg to differ. That's all.

Calzaghe's resume is certaintly superior to that of Mundine's, 100%. But then again, apart from over-the-top nuthuggers, no one claims Mundine is a top ten p4per and even claim him to be the best fighter of this generation (as some do for Calzaghe, which is a joke).

And I still rate Mundine as his (Kessler's) best win. I'd love Mundine to get a fight with Andrade (won't happen)... I see him winning a 116-112 type decision. :good :good Yes i agree Calzaghe has had a few stinkers along the way but i would class him as one of the best of his generation due to to fact that he has finally started fighting more than mediocre challengers ie Lacy , kessler , Hopkins and maybe Pavlik etc , The Problem Mundine has as far as reputaion is concerned is that the world knows he should be fighting at a higher level than he seems content in fighting at , If i was Mundine i would be busting a gut to get in with Bute instead of ripping all the fans down under off by fighting sam again . everyone that has seen him fight knows he has talent ive never disputed this point either , He should just get a wiggle on if he's going to be remembered worldwide . Ajay seems to think Mundine is the best P4P @ Middler and s/Middle and he then goes on to try and discredit Calzaghe in a attempt to prove his point .

[KO Boxing]

:good :good Yes i agree Calzaghe has had a few stinkers along the way but i would class him as one of the best of his generation due to to fact that he has finally started fighting more than mediocre challengers ie Lacy , kessler , Hopkins and maybe Pavlik etc , The Problem Mundine has as far as reputaion is concerned is that the world knows he should be fighting at a higher level than he seems content in fighting at , If i was Mundine i would be busting a gut to get in with Bute instead of ripping all the fans down under off by fighting sam again . everyone that has seen him fight knows he has talent ive never disputed this point either , He should just get a wiggle on if he's going to be remembered worldwide . Ajay seems to think Mundine is the best P4P @ Middler and s/Middle and he then goes on to try and discredit Calzaghe in a attempt to prove his point .
:good Calling him ONE of the best is fine by me

[ajay11]

:good :good Yes i agree Calzaghe has had a few stinkers along the way but i would class him as one of the best of his generation due to to fact that he has finally started fighting more than mediocre challengers.....

EXACTLY!!!

HE HAS FINALLY STARTED!!!

If Choc were to go at the same pace as Calzaghe (taking into account amateur fight experience) he could have another 10 fights against guys with blown up European records before HE FINALLY STARTS FIGHTING MORE THAN MEDIOCRE CHALLENGERS.

[JOSEY WALES]

EXACTLY!!!

HE HAS FINALLY STARTED!!!

If Choc were to go at the same pace as Calzaghe (taking into account amateur fight experience) he could have another 10 fights against guys with blown up European records before HE FINALLY STARTS FIGHTING MORE THAN MEDIOCRE CHALLENGERS. Apart from Kessler , who has Mundine faced better than Chris Eubank , Byron Mitcheal , Richie WoodHall , Robin Reid ( Robbed by Ottke not Ko'd ) Charles Brewer ( Robbed by Ottke not Ko'd ) and Sakio Bika . Ps congrats Ajay its looking likley your boy is going down to Kessler AGAIN lol See it looks like even thos worthless cunts over @ the WBA have finally had enough of allowing the entire Cab driving workforce of Argentina a shot at their Toy's "R" Us belt Lmao ..:bbb :bbb :bbb

[ajay11]

AH , Ajay just a few questions for you fella ( Being as you seem to think you know it all ) 1 , Please name these fighters Calzaghe flatly refused to fight after being called out by them ..2 , Why did Joe fight Tocker Pudwill ? and 3 , With this news of Greenie jacking it in will Mundine fight abroad now after he beats up Sam or recall an argie cabbie for his next PPV rip off ? This will be a Great oppotunity for Choc to show the balls he seems to only show you .. Regards Josey wales :bbb :bbb :bbb Ps i will check your reply later .

Sorry for the late reply Josey Wales but I was caught in the middle of a crystal meth induced orgy with Mundine's mothers poddle, a couple of echidnas and a platypus.

Have you ever tried to platypus Josey?

Seriously mate, out of everyone on this site you're the last person that should accuse someone of being a "know it all" I'm surprised you haven't requested that we all stand as we reply to your posts.

While I find it distasteful justifying my comments to an armchair expert like yourself I will, just to give you something to masturbate over.

1. Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins (for alot longer than Mundine's held a title) and Choc among others. We are talking about a Frank ****** managed fighter after all.

2. I don't know, why did he? If you say because it was a mandatory that's great news knowing that he's not the type to relinquish a title against an unworthy opponent as there'll be no excuse when it comes time to fight Choc.

3. Green was not on Mundine's immeadiate radar. There have been talks between Khoder and US promoters although I haven't heard anything of substance regarding Winky Wright and his promotional company (which obviously don't mean it isn't so). Any fight to take place in the USA would not come until late in the year which is why he took the Soliman fight (he believes the more he fights the better) One thing that must be remembered is should an opportunity against a big name fighter come up between now and then he would jump at it although I've got no idea how far Khoder and Sam's manager have gone in their dealings.

A contract is a contract after all.

Now could you kindly stick that ticking clock up your arse and send me a picture (with regards of course.)

[ajay11]

What will be interesting is Calzaghe's attitude to a Mundine fight after he gets beaten by Hopkins.

[JOSEY WALES]

Sorry for the late reply Josey Wales but I was caught in the middle of a crystal meth induced orgy with Mundine's mothers poddle, a couple of echidnas and a platypus.

Have you ever tried to platypus Josey?

Seriously mate, out of everyone on this site you're the last person that should accuse someone of being a "know it all" I'm surprised you haven't requested that we all stand as we reply to your posts.

While I find it distasteful justifying my comments to an armchair expert like yourself I will, just to give you something to masturbate over.

1. Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins (for alot longer than Mundine's held a title) and Choc among others. We are talking about a Frank ****** managed fighter after all.

2. I don't know, why did he? If you say because it was a mandatory that's great news knowing that he's not the type to relinquish a title against an unworthy opponent as there'll be no excuse when it comes time to fight Choc.

3. Green was not on Mundine's immeadiate radar. There have been talks between Khoder and US promoters although I haven't heard anything of substance regarding Winky Wright and his promotional company (which obviously don't mean it isn't so). Any fight to take place in the USA would not come until late in the year which is why he took the Soliman fight (he believes the more he fights the better) One thing that must be remembered is should an opportunity against a big name fighter come up between now and then he would jump at it although I've got no idea how far Khoder and Sam's manager have gone in their dealings.

A contract is a contract after all.

Now could you kindly stick that ticking clock up your arse and send me a picture (with regards of course.) LMFAO @ You Ajay , Hee goes i will awnswer them for you fella ,
1... RJJ din't want a fight with Calzaghe and NEVER called him out ..Neither did Hopkins ( It was the other way around infact ) .
2...Tocker Pudwill was a late replacment for Thomas Tate ( Who shit out a week before the fight ) but Tocker was a decent test ( lmao ) when you consider he actually went the disance with SVEN..lol
3...My bad i thought Geenie was down to fight Choc again after he had beaten Sam for th 30th time .
4...well we won't go into that as your utterly clueless and just a Choc lover and not a real fan ,,as for a picture ? thats just plain strange fella :-(( :hey but will dig one out of my Welsh Boxer if its you bag :good Regards Josey "Polite" Wales:hi:

[JOSEY WALES]

What will be interesting is Calzaghe's attitude to a Mundine fight after he gets beaten by Hopkins. Ps Joe will be retired before Choc throws out another half arsed attempt to lure him down under mate ,What was the offer again ?? Oh yea $1.6 U$ ROLFAO ,that showed serious intent didn't it ,No wonder Calzaghe bricked it :patsch

[teke]

Ps Joe will be retired before Choc throws out another half arsed attempt to lure him down under mate ,What was the offer again ?? Oh yea $1.6 U$ ROLFAO ,that showed serious intent didn't it ,No wonder Calzaghe bricked it :patsch****** offered Mundine a fight for 50 grand and rights to his next 3 fights if he won :lol::lol:

This was way before Mundine offered what you said

[teke]

Apart from Kessler , who has Mundine faced better than Chris Eubank , Byron Mitcheal , Richie WoodHall , Robin Reid ( Robbed by Ottke not Ko'd ) Charles Brewer ( Robbed by Ottke not Ko'd ) and Sakio Bika . Ps congrats Ajay its looking likley your boy is going down to Kessler AGAIN lol See it looks like even thos worthless cunts over @ the WBA have finally had enough of allowing the entire Cab driving workforce of Argentina a shot at their Toy's "R" Us belt Lmao ..:bbb :bbb :bbbYou can take Bika out of the equation cause he was a former sparring partner to Choc.

[LeonMcS]

This thread is approaching Yuri Foreman status.

[Decebal]

You can take Bika out of the equation cause he was a former sparring partner to Choc.

Oh, dear...he dropped Choc in sparring, did he?:scaredas:

[teke]

Oh, dear...he dropped Choc in sparring, did he?:scaredas:You wanna see how he faired :hey

You might cry

[teke]

This thread is approaching Yuri Foreman status.:lol: That will never be reached again :deal

[LeonMcS]

Surely a lock for thread of the year, maybe even decade.

[Decebal]

You wanna see how he faired :hey

You might cry

No, thanks, I don't like to see Choc getting hurt...:verysad :-( :verysad

[Kegsy]

****** offered Mundine a fight for 50 grand and rights to his next 3 fights if he won :lol::lol:

This was way before Mundine offered what you said
Im trying to stay neutral in this, but i remember that offer clearly by Frank ******.:lol:
****** is a bloody twat, worse than Don King just about.

[teke]

Im trying to stay neutral in this, but i remember that offer clearly by Frank ******.:lol:
****** is a bloody twat, worse than Don King just about.I was hoping someone would back me up :good

The movement in the SMW division is getting us all excited :happy

[Decebal]

****** offered Mundine a fight for 50 grand and rights to his next 3 fights if he won :lol::lol:

This was way before Mundine offered what you said

:patsch

50 grand + rights! :nut :nut :nut :nut :nut

****** is a wanker!:verysad :-( :verysad :-( :verysad

[Decebal]

The movement in the SMW division is getting me all excited :happy

:smooch

[Kegsy]

I was hoping someone would back me up :good

Anytime Teke.
Im here to back u & the jungle boy up anytime.:yep

[Decebal]

Anytime Teke.
Im here to back u & the jungle boy up anytime.:yep

You like backing up jungle boys, do you, Kegsy?!:shock: :hey :shock: :hey :shock:

[teke]

:patsch

50 grand + rights! :nut :nut :nut :nut :nut

****** is a wanker!:verysad :-( :verysad :-( :verysadIm just repeating what was stated on this site a few yrs back, i think there was an article that came with it also.

[Kegsy]

You like backing up jungle boys, do you, Kegsy?!:shock: :hey :shock: :hey :shock:
:lol:
I knew someone would take that the wrong wayy.:yep

Just as much as u like backing up Bute Decebel.:hey:hey

[teke]

You like backing up jungle boys, do you, Kegsy?!:shock: :hey :shock: :hey :shock::lol::lol:

[Decebal]

:lol:
I knew someone would take that the wrong wayy.:yep

Just as much as u like backing up Bute Decebel.:hey:hey

:bart :verysad :bart :verysad :bart

[JOSEY WALES]

****** offered Mundine a fight for 50 grand and rights to his next 3 fights if he won :lol::lol:

This was way before Mundine offered what you said Teke man ,You know the sport and how it goes $100,000 was a fair offer when you consider choc had just been KTFO by Ottke ,In fact more than fair imo your only paid what your worth :yep , I agree with you all about ****** though even though he has brought some quality fighters over here he only pays top money to top fighters ..Kessler earned $7,000,000 for the unification fight with Calzaghe apparently ,so choc should have taken the £ 50k and the three fight deal if it was indeed 50k offered :deal .if he is that good he would have been earning mega bucks now and fighting Hopkins in the $tate$ ,,

[teke]

Teke man ,You know the sport and how it goes $100,000 was a fair offer when you consider choc had just been KTFO by Ottke ,In fact more than fair imo your only paid what your worth :yep , I agree with you all about ****** though even though he has brought some quality fighters over here he only pays top money to top fighters ..Kessler earned $7,000,000 for the unification fight with Calzaghe apparently ,so choc should have taken the £ 50k and the three fight deal if it was indeed 50k offered :deal .if he is that good he would have been earning mega bucks now and fighting Hopkins in the $tate$ ,,This offer was just after the Green fight where he made a few million (some say 5mill). At the time not even Joe made that amount of money for a single fight.

[JOSEY WALES]

This S/middle weight division has been on the back burner simmering along just nicely for a few years now ,When Joe goes it going to come to the boil all of a sudden i reckon .quite a few permentations of fights to establish who will come out on top , I just hope the belts don't become fragmented for as long as they were pre Kessler / Calzaghe ..

[JOSEY WALES]

This offer was just after the Green fight where he made a few million (some say 5mill). At the time not even Joe made that amount of money for a single fight. 5 millin what , Sterling , U$ Dollars , Aussie $'s ? How muchdid he gt for the "Argie fights " ?

[teke]

5 millin what , Sterling , U$ Dollars , Aussie $'s ? How muchdid he gt for the "Argie fights " ?Disbelief aye :yikes

His earning capacity stems from his league days where he was paid very well.

[JOSEY WALES]

Disbelief aye :yikes

His earning capacity stems from his league days where he was paid very well. lol now i know he was a quality player and your pulling my pisser but serious how much do you reckon he's earned since the Green fight ? Total ?

[teke]

lol now i know he was a quality player and your pulling my pisser but serious how much do you reckon he's earned since the Green fight ? Total ?Fucked if i know, but Mundine was interviewed on radio and he stated himself he didnt get anywhere near 5 mill dollars for the GReen fight.

I think his manager digs as deep as Don King, he just comes across as that type of bloke. Mundines boxing career would have earnt him a fair whack, my estimation would be anywhere from 7-15mill :huh

[LeonMcS]

Remember that article Choc wrote in the Australian for the return match between Melbourne and St.George after Melbourne had won their first NRL crown the year before?
He basically claimed St.George were the real champs and Melbourne were pretenders who didn't deserve the title, how he was going to show them how a real champ performs.
Melbourne were not impressed and ended up winning 60 odd to nothing. St.George then canned Chocs weekly column in the Australian.

This is all irrelevant but i like bringing it up every now and then.

[JOSEY WALES]

Fucked if i know, but Mundine was interviewed on radio and he stated himself he didnt get anywhere near 5 mill dollars for the GReen fight.

I think his manager digs as deep as Don King, he just comes across as that type of bloke. Mundines boxing career would have earnt him a fair whack, my estimation would be anywhere from 7-15mill :huh Aussie $$$'s aye ? Still not to be sniffed at , i can see why he is content sying home fighting thats strong money , can't fault him for it either , But sooner or later he's going to have to either step up or stop calling himself champ .

[teke]

Remember that article Choc wrote in the Australian for the return match between Melbourne and St.George after Melbourne had won their first NRL crown the year before?
He basically claimed St.George were the real champs and Melbourne were pretenders who didn't deserve the title, how he was going to show them how a real champ performs.
Melbourne were not impressed and ended up winning 60 odd to nothing. St.George then canned Chocs weekly column in the Australian.

This is all irrelevant but i like bringing it up every now and then.Remember it clearly, poor Choc was fighting against the hoodoo that is the St Merge Choke Syndrome.

[JOSEY WALES]

Remember that article Choc wrote in the Australian for the return match between Melbourne and St.George after Melbourne had won their first NRL crown the year before?
He basically claimed St.George were the real champs and Melbourne were pretenders who didn't deserve the title, how he was going to show them how a real champ performs.
Melbourne were not impressed and ended up winning 60 odd to nothing. St.George then canned Chocs weekly column in the Australian.

This is all irrelevant but i like bringing it up every now and then. 60 odd in league is like 90 in union aye ? lol

[JOSEY WALES]

How many Caps did he end up with ?

[LeonMcS]

To be fair, St George did reverse the result later in the season winning 60 something to nil.

But of course Choc had retired to take up another career by that stage...

[LeonMcS]

How many Caps did he end up with ?

None, whitey was keeping him down.

[JOSEY WALES]

None, whitey was keeping him down. None ? I thought his as an international .

[LeonMcS]

Actually I'm an Aussie Rules man, I think he played a few but one of the reasons he gave on his retirement from league was in his opinion the continued racist selection policies by the the NRL board.*


*i.e they didn't pick Choc.

[JOSEY WALES]

Actually I'm an Aussie Rules man, I think he played a few but one of the reasons he gave on his retirement from league was in his opinion the continued racist selection policies by the the NRL board.*


*i.e they didn't pick Choc. What about wendle Sailor ? and the ella bros in union ?, Gregan and that kid on the wing , Ah what the fu*k was his name ? ,Wilson the Aboriginal kid ? played againt the Lions a few years back ? Australia and the Kiwis were two of the first to play Black rugby players , closely followed By S/Afrika was it really Aussi selection policy r Choc getting his arse in his hand ? Enquiring minds need to know lol

[LeonMcS]

You now beginning to see why no matter what he does accomplish, some of us just can't support Choc.

Fair enough hes proud of his race and I don't doubt things may have been a little harder for him, but things such as humility and maturity are qualities that some of us find endearing.

[JOSEY WALES]

You now beginning to see why no matter what he does accomplish, some of us just can't support Choc.

Fair enough hes proud of his race and I don't doubt things may have been a little harder for him, but things such as humility and maturity are qualities that some of us find endearing. Leon when he first come on the scene i thought fucking great , an aboriginal kid who played rugby ( My too favourite sports) hope he holds his own in his new sport and goes a long way . then i researched the cunt and its all gone down hill from there .lol

[LeonMcS]

The thing is, he has achieved at a high level. Fighting for a world title after only 11 pro bouts with no amatuer background is very impressive. As much as I love to support local fighters he makes it very hard (for me). Generally speaking, most Aussies prefer a quiet humble achiever, not a big noting loudmouth.

But self promoting yourself as the greatest thing ever in boxing while knocking out a succesion of recently retired fighters lured back by one more payday doesn't endear him to me. The D grade Ali schtick I just find embarrasing.

On the flipside, boxing has always been a business and he seems to have done well out of it. But I'm certainly not one of those pie eyed fans who fork over $50 to see him defend his title against some no name for an easy payday.

If he ever does step up his level of opposition, maybe, maybe I could then actually barrick for him.

[IrnBruMan]

This offer was just after the Green fight where he made a few million (some say 5mill). At the time not even Joe made that amount of money for a single fight.

No it wasn't mate, it was made before Mundine fought Green


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Mundine-Calzaghe talks collapse!
Saturday, July 30 2005
By Ray Wheatley -- World of Boxing
Negotiations have stopped for Anthony Mundine to challenge WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzage in Cardiff, Wales on September 10. The management of the former WBA 168 pound champion Mundine would not agree to have the Australian being promoted in four of his championship fights (options) if he was successful in taking the crown from the Welshman. Mundine was very impressive in a losing a twelve round decision to WBA super middleweight champion Mikkell Kessler in Sydney last month in what experts regard as the Aboriginal's best ring performance.

[JOSEY WALES]

No it wasn't mate, it was made before Mundine fought Green


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Mundine-Calzaghe talks collapse!
Saturday, July 30 2005
By Ray Wheatley -- World of Boxing
Negotiations have stopped for Anthony Mundine to challenge WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzage in Cardiff, Wales on September 10. The management of the former WBA 168 pound champion Mundine would not agree to have the Australian being promoted in four of his championship fights (options) if he was successful in taking the crown from the Welshman. Mundine was very impressive in a losing a twelve round decision to WBA super middleweight champion Mikkell Kessler in Sydney last month in what experts regard as the Aboriginal's best ring performance. Muttley what was the counter offer to get Calzaghe down under ? 800,000 sterling was the figure heared .

[IrnBruMan]

Muttley what was the counter offer to get Calzaghe down under ? 800,000 sterling was the figure heared .

I dunno mate, I tend to disregard a lot of the details related to these sort of articles, because it's usually just a case of one bloke trying to lure the other bloke into agreeing to fight him, and therefore, the figures that we hear getting flung about aren't accurate.

There's a few articles where Nasser is talking about ******'s claims he offered Mundine 2 million to fight Calzaghe, and Nasser is denying any such offer was made.

All politics and bullshit to me.

Like this article:

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I mean, at the time this article was written, Kessler was still chasing a fight with Calzaghe. We all know what eventuated, my question is - why the hell would Calzaghe be interested in a non-title holder in Mundine when he was intending to fight Kessler to unify the division anyway?

[IrnBruMan]

What about this then

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"Australian fighter Mundine says that Calzaghe's camp offered him $250,000 US dollars to put his title on the line in the UK. "As far as I'm concerned, that is an insult," said Mundine. "I'll offer Joe the same money to come here (Australia) and see if he fights me - I don't think he'll do it." "

[MSTR]

What about this then

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"Australian fighter Mundine says that Calzaghe's camp offered him $250,000 US dollars to put his title on the line in the UK. "As far as I'm concerned, that is an insult," said Mundine. "I'll offer Joe the same money to come here (Australia) and see if he fights me - I don't think he'll do it." "

What a dumbass... Great logic choc. Of course the champ is going to want to come overseas and fight for far less money. Why wouldn't he?? Someone needs to remind Choc of who is the reigning champion and top p4p fighter, and who is the Argie basher.

[IrnBruMan]

What a dumbass... Great logic choc. Of course the champ is going to want to come overseas and fight for far less money. Why wouldn't he?? Someone needs to remind Choc of who is the reigning champion and top p4p fighter, and who is the Argie basher.

exactly.

[ajay11]

Teke man ,You know the sport and how it goes $100,000 was a fair offer when you consider choc had just been KTFO by Ottke ,In fact more than fair imo your only paid what your worth :yep , I agree with you all about ****** though even though he has brought some quality fighters over here he only pays top money to top fighters ..Kessler earned $7,000,000 for the unification fight with Calzaghe apparently ,so choc should have taken the £ 50k and the three fight deal if it was indeed 50k offered :deal .if he is that good he would have been earning mega bucks now and fighting Hopkins in the $tate$ ,,

Josey Wales, go back 100 years, had every government around the world implemented eugenics via breeding restrictions then you and your bullshit wouldn't exist.

Has anyone in the history of internet forums worked so hard at validating their opinions by way hypocracy than Josey Wales?

I doubt it very much.

Does anyone spend so much time trawling through facts and figures in a vain attempt to gain credibility and appear knowledgable?

Not that I know of.

Is Josey Wales anything more than a product of internet forum perfection, an expert in manipulating a talkback tool, sculpturing it into a heavyweight champion of his own egotistical mindset?

I guess that's an unobjective assumption, not unlike my assumptions that Josey Wales is nothing more than a stuttering, overweight loner that lives in a world of fantasy, making out with Maria Sharapova the night after taking out Vatali Klitschko in a heavyweight unification bout.

Regards :finger

[JOSEY WALES]

Josey Wales, go back 100 years, had every government around the world implemented eugenics via breeding restrictions then you and your bullshit wouldn't exist.

Has anyone in the history of internet forums worked so hard at validating their opinions by way hypocracy than Josey Wales?

I doubt it very much.

Does anyone spend so much time trawling through facts and figures in a vain attempt to gain credibility and appear knowledgable?

Not that I know of.

Is Josey Wales anything more than a product of internet forum perfection, an expert in manipulating a talkback tool, sculpturing it into a heavyweight champion of his own egotistical mindset?

I guess that's an unobjective assumption, not unlike my assumptions that Josey Wales is nothing more than a stuttering, overweight loner that lives in a world of fantasy, making out with Maria Sharapova the night after taking out Vatali Klitschko in a heavyweight unification bout.

Regards :finger Ajay , Ajay , Ajay , Josey Wales is a fan of the sport of boxing not just a fan boy of any one particular boxer , Josey Wales gives due respect & Props to proper warriors ( Recently on here Green & Katsidis see my posts ) Josey Wales leads a very happy existence here in Wales with his Beautiful wife of 22 years and his son , Daughter and soon to be Grand child ( God Wlling ) ,Josey wales is a railway engineer who has this week been chilling @ home on anual leave and has spent the best part of it @ home as the weather has been poor ( you aussies are indeed blessed weather wise) so Josey Wales has been amongst other things been busy trying to establish that Poster Ajay is full of shit and don' belong anywhere near a serious boxing forum as eveything he says is just a whole heap of crap and he can never back it up with FACTS ,ie the truth , However all is not lost for Josey Wales because as we can see in the posts above by Leon , Mutt and Mstr that there are objective and HONEST fans of the sport down under who have answered a few question that i had about the Australian Boxer Anthony Mundine and i thank them for this info , So Ajay dont worry boy i realise your childish comments ,lies and general lack of basic boxing kowledge is not in any way shape or form a true reflection of Australian boxing fans thank Fuck lol ,now Ajay if your going to talk about boxing and a certain fighter please be ready next time with fats instead of insults or as Oz says stick to and sucking off dogs ..Kind Regards Josey "Brought up properly " Wales :good

[huricn]

can someone plz delete this thread

[ozziebattler]

Joses Wales and Ajay love den.

Lets leave them be boys.

Im off to talk to JungleBoy.lol

[JOSEY WALES]

Joses Wales and Ajay love den.

Lets leave them be boys.

Im off to talk to JungleBoy.lol Im begining to think this should be an Ajay only thread , BTW is that the real Sonnie kid posting there or that TEKE fella or someone on a windup ?

[ozziebattler]

Im begining to think this should be an Ajay only thread , BTW is that the real Sonnie kid posting there or that TEKE fella or someone on a windup ?

I swear i thought it was a massive gee up from mr Teke but some of the info in Sonnys recent posts have to come from a very close source.

Im a little skeptical still as Sonny posted that he is currently studying at uni.Politics and something else.You would think his grammar would have to be alot better then what he has been showing us so far.

All in all im absolutely baffled to if its him or not,but strangely im swaying towards the poster being the real deal..

[JOSEY WALES]

I swear i thought it was a massive gee up from mr Teke but some of the info in Sonnys recent posts have to come from a very close source.

Im a little skeptical still as Sonny posted that he is currently studying at uni.Politics and something else.You would think his grammar would have to be alot better then what he has been showing us so far.

All in all im absolutely baffled to if its him or not,but strangely im swaying towards the poster being the real deal.. Yea OZ i was thinking the same lol good on him if it is really him ,i laughed my bollocks off at his watch thief comments aout Fenech ,

[ozziebattler]

Yea OZ i was thinking the same lol good on him if it is really him ,i laughed my bollocks off at his watch thief comments aout Fenech ,

Jeff was a legend in the ring but has turned into a total grub over the years.

Money changes people.Also being hungry for the limelight when you are a shadow of your former self hasnt helped Fenech either in my opinion.

He has dissed Sonny publicly on numerous occassions from what i gather.

Sonny vs Fenech in a bareknuckle bout.

[JOSEY WALES]

Jeff was a legend in the ring but has turned into a total grub over the years.

Money changes people.Also being hungry for the limelight when you are a shadow of your former self hasnt helped Fenech either in my opinion.

He has dissed Sonny publicly on numerous occassions from what i gather.

Sonny vs Fenech in a bareknuckle bout. Fenech v Nelson was quality all the way .

[JOSEY WALES]

I saw both fights but only have the second one in my collection ,i will track down the first one .

[LeonMcS]

Was actually just watching some highlights on youtube of the first fight about half an hour ago.

Nearly 17 years later and it still pisses me off. You want to see dumb though, check out the comments under any youtube boxing video, like the worst esb nuthugger on acid and speed after a lobotomy.

[teke]

Im begining to think this should be an Ajay only thread , BTW is that the real Sonnie kid posting there or that TEKE fella or someone on a windup ?Get da fuck outta here, it aint me

[JOSEY WALES]

Get da fuck outta here, it aint me....:rofl

[teke]

....:rofl:lol:

Def not me

[JOSEY WALES]

:lol:

Def not me Serious though Teke , after reading "His" posts i looked the fella up and saw one of his fights on You tube , lol a definate character and thats what the sport needs . Jungle boy Tko's Choc early .:bbb lol

[ozziebattler]

Serious though Teke , after reading "His" posts i looked the fella up and saw one of his fights on You tube , lol a definate character and thats what the sport needs . Jungle boy Tko's Choc early .:bbb lol

I have Jungle fever.lol

Like him or not Sonny has taken on some tough fights for such a short career.He hasnt gone the usual domestic route and racked up a long list of victories beating up imported taxi drivers.

Im honestly still totally unsure if we are all speaking to the real Sonny on esb but with the info he has given me lately i quess it could be him.

[ajay11]

Ajay , Ajay , Ajay , Josey Wales is a fan of the sport of boxing not just a fan boy of any one particular boxer , Josey Wales gives due respect & Props to proper warriors ( Recently on here Green & Katsidis see my posts )

The King Of Hypocrasy Strikes Again

Does being a huge fan (nuthugger if you will) of one or more particular fighters exclude one from being a fan of the actual sport? Does being a mad fan, of lets say Manchester United, exclude one from being a huge fan of football?

You give "due respect..." to "proper warriors"......:verysad that comment contradicts what you have just stated as placing fighters in groups such as "proper warriors" is subjective. You have fighters you admire and I have mine. You have gone into bat for Calzaghe just as I have gone into bat for Mundine.

Seriously, is there any difference between I arguing hard FOR Mundine while you argue hard AGAINST? You say your not a fan of any one particular fighter, no, you are a harsh critic of a particular fighter.

Again, is there any difference when reflecting on "what makes a true fan of the pugilistic arts"? For v Against

WHAT A CROCK OF BULLSHIT!!!


Josey Wales leads a very happy existence here in Wales with his Beautiful wife of 22 years and his son , Daughter and soon to be Grand child ( God Wlling ) ,Josey wales is a railway engineer who has this week been chilling @ home on anual leave and has spent the best part of it @ home as the weather has been poor ( you aussies are indeed blessed weather wise)

This would explain brain freeze, hopeful your IQ will rise with the temperature.

Lets also hope your children/ future grandchildren will be lucky enough to take after your wife (God Willing).

so Josey Wales has been amongst other things been busy trying to establish that Poster Ajay is full of shit and don' belong anywhere near a serious boxing forum as eveything he says is just a whole heap of crap and he can never back it up with FACTS ,ie the truth

I find this strange as I also have a beautiful wife and children (3 of them) and could not find a priority place for you if I tried come annual leave. In fact you would become quite insignificant.

The only reason I'm even bothering with this is because I enjoy poking your bloated stomach with a stick as a form of leisure and relaxation :rosstheboss


, However all is not lost for Josey Wales because as we can see in the posts above by Leon , Mutt and Mstr that there are objective and HONEST fans of the sport down under who have answered a few question that i had about the Australian Boxer Anthony Mundine and i thank them for this info

The logic of an imbecile "They agree with my suspicions/assumptions so they must be objective and honest"



So Ajay dont worry boy i realise your childish comments ,lies

I believe that lying is a form of self deceit and it's something I haven't done for many years. When one does what he believes is right there is no reason to lie (which shouldn't be mistaken for comments made in jest)....As for childish comments, sure why not when one considers it appropriate. I even smile in my family photos...

and general lack of basic boxing kowledge is not in any way shape or form a true reflection of Australian boxing fans thank Fuck lol

Now the guy's passing judgement on tens of thousands of people in another hemisphere based on the feedback of a dozen.

Is that what you are saying? That not one of the "true boxing fans" (your interpretation) in Australia have identicle opinions/ views of fighters or boxing as I?

I'm curious, what are the requirements to become an railway engineer in Wales? I shall need no reminding to stay away from the rail service should I ever be unfortunate enough to end up in Wales.

,now Ajay if your going to talk about boxing and a certain fighter please be ready next time with fats instead of insults

No, Fuck Off.

or as Oz says stick to and sucking off dogs ..Kind Regards Josey "Brought up properly " Wales :good

It appears as though what started off as a combination of differing opinions and light banter has resulted in my discovery that you are either a drunkard, a dickhead or quite possibly both.

[JOSEY WALES]

The King Of Hypocrasy Strikes Again

Does being a huge fan (nuthugger if you will) of one or more particular fighters exclude one from being a fan of the actual sport? Does being a mad fan, of lets say Manchester United, exclude one from being a huge fan of football?

You give "due respect..." to "proper warriors"......:verysad that comment contradicts what you have just stated as placing fighters in groups such as "proper warriors" is subjective. You have fighters you admire and I have mine. You have gone into bat for Calzaghe just as I have gone into bat for Mundine.

Seriously, is there any difference between I arguing hard FOR Mundine while you argue hard AGAINST? You say your not a fan of any one particular fighter, no, you are a harsh critic of a particular fighter.

Again, is there any difference when reflecting on "what makes a true fan of the pugilistic arts"? For v Against

WHAT A CROCK OF BULLSHIT!!!




This would explain brain freeze, hopeful your IQ will rise with the temperature.

Lets also hope your children/ future grandchildren will be lucky enough to take after your wife (God Willing).



I find this strange as I also have a beautiful wife and children (3 of them) and could not find a priority place for you if I tried come annual leave. In fact you would become quite insignificant.

The only reason I'm even bothering with this is because I enjoy poking your bloated stomach with a stick as a form of leisure and relaxation :rosstheboss




The logic of an imbecile "They agree with my suspicions/assumptions so they must be objective and honest"





I believe that lying is a form of self deceit and it's something I haven't done for many years. When one does what he believes is right there is no reason to lie (which shouldn't be mistaken for comments made in jest)....As for childish comments, sure why not when one considers it appropriate. I even smile in my family photos...



Now the guy's passing judgement on tens of thousands of people in another hemisphere based on the feedback of a dozen.

Is that what you are saying? That not one of the "true boxing fans" (your interpretation) in Australia have identicle opinions/ views of fighters or boxing as I?

I'm curious, what are the requirements to become an railway engineer in Wales? I shall need no reminding to stay away from the rail service should I ever be unfortunate enough to end up in Wales.



No, Fuck Off.



It appears as though what started off as a combination of differing opinions and light banter has resulted in my discovery that you are either a drunkard, a dickhead or quite possibly both. Lets see Ajay ,If its a choice between being a drunken dickhead or a bullshitting liar i will settle with my lot , hope your happy with yours ,kind Regards Josey Wales

[JOSEY WALES]

Would anyone be intrested in seeing Mundine v Froch ( Should Froch beat Dennis Inkin ) to determine who the best S/Mddle in the commonwealth behind Calzaghe & Bute is ? This ain't a piss take either ,Due to Both figters recent lack of quality opponent i reckon this would be a decent gauge as to see where both fighters stand in the general order of things , although i dislike Froch for a number of reasons i reckon he would push Choc all the way ,Is this a fight Mundine would be ready to take or is the Commonwealth title below him ?

[ipswich express]

I'd certainly be interested in the match up and reckon Froch could spring an upset due to Mundine's level of opposition of late.

[JOSEY WALES]

I'd certainly be interested in the match up and reckon Froch could spring an upset due to Mundine's level of opposition of late. Thats what ive been thinking about Froch in the build up to this fight with Inkin ,Robin Reid was quality but that was a while back now , will Froch's level of opponent come back to bite him in the ass ? Inkin is very underated imo and this fight is too close to call , Mundine will find himself in a similar position next time he steps up i reckon , whilst Mundine has fought at a higher standard than Froch i think this would be a cracking commonwealth battle ,its a shame most fighters don't hold that title in the way it should be looked at , Mundines old man Fought and won itand if it was good enough for him it should be good enough for his boy ,If im perfectly honest i rate the Commonwealth higher than any mickey mouse ABC second prize belt , Ps Nice Pic Ip's Benny was one tough mo-fo back in the day ,pity he pissed his life away .

[teke]

I still dont see how Mundines recent level of opposition ie. 28 rounds against stiffs over a year negatively effects him when he is sparring 100 odd rounds against better opposition. This doesnt just apply to Mundine either, you could replace him with any fighter.

He is over in the states Sparring RJJ and his stablemates at the moment, when he is back in Aust he is getting a good workout with Les and the boys. If he was fighting stiffs and looking bad i would agree he shouldnt be looking for a showdown with top notch comp. I need help understanding :p

[Decebal]

I still dont see how Mundines recent level of opposition ie. 28 rounds against stiffs over a year negatively effects him when he is sparring 100 odd rounds against better opposition. This doesnt just apply to Mundine either, you could replace him with any fighter.

He is over in the states Sparring RJJ and his stablemates at the moment, when he is back in Aust he is getting a good workout with Les and the boys. If he was fighting stiffs and looking bad i would agree he shouldnt be looking for a showdown with top notch comp. I need help understanding :p

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[teke]

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[JOSEY WALES]

I still dont see how Mundines recent level of opposition ie. 28 rounds against stiffs over a year negatively effects him when he is sparring 100 odd rounds against better opposition. This doesnt just apply to Mundine either, you could replace him with any fighter.

He is over in the states Sparring RJJ and his stablemates at the moment, when he is back in Aust he is getting a good workout with Les and the boys. If he was fighting stiffs and looking bad i would agree he shouldnt be looking for a showdown with top notch comp. I need help understanding :p Teke ,its being called battle hardened mate , If Mundine is getting in so much quality sparring with Les , the boys & Roy how come he looked shit last time out ? The reason this hasn't become apparent in his last few fights v Rico , Pedro etc is because he hasn't been in with anyone with sufficient class to trouble him ,that will change when he gets back up to the standard he should be fighting at . Hope this has helped ..

[teke]

Teke ,its being called battle hardened mate, If Mundine is getting in so much quality sparring with Les , the boys & Roy how come he looked shit last time out ? The reason this hasn't become apparent in his last few fights v Rico , Pedro etc is because he hasn't been in with anyone with sufficient class to trouble him ,that will change when he gets back up to the standard he should be fighting at . Hope this has helped ..He didnt look like shit in his last fight, he looked quite good imo. His adoption of becoming more flat footed laying down more fiz in his punches suits him.

So you cant get battle hardened in training aye?

At worst decent sparring can't be working against you.

I hear this this issue raised all the time for many fighters of the past ie. his past competition will be his downfall in this fight...

The lead up to Joes fight with Lacy, many posters said the same thing about Joe (myself included), he goes out and whips him then everyone is shocked :lol::yikes

[JOSEY WALES]

Teke ,IMO Mundine looked terrible last time out but put that down to the fact that he was giving his mate from down the mousqe a pay day and yes i 100% think you have to be in a real fight to get that mental and physical toughness to take on the worlds best , You are obviously a sporting fella ,What contact sport have you ever participated in where training was better preperation to a Match / Fight than a full contact no holes barred proper fight or match , when i boxed as an amature no amount of sparring could substitute the real thing , Same as when i played rugby ,No amount of training games or senarios could substitute match day experience . Froch will find this out against Inkin and Mundine will find this out next time he steps out of the comfort zone ,Ie fighting @ world class level .

[Decebal]

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[teke]

Teke ,IMO Mundine looked terrible last time out but put that down to the fact that he was giving his mate from down the mousqe a pay day and yes i 100% think you have to be in a real fight to get that mental and physical toughness to take on the worlds best , You are obviously a sporting fella ,What contact sport have you ever participated in where training was better preperation to a Match / Fight than a full contact no holes barred proper fight or match , when i boxed as an amature no amount of sparring could substitute the real thing , Same as when i played rugby ,No amount of training games or senarios could substitute match day experience . Froch will find this out against Inkin and Mundine will find this out next time he steps out of the comfort zone ,Ie fighting @ world class level .Take rugby for example. You dont just make up attacking drills on game day, you practise and practise and practise until it is perfected. Training in my opinion should be hard for preparation for the real thing doesnt matter what sport it is. Tyson never took training easy, he went all out on his sparring partners.

Do you follow union and if so who do you support? :yep

[JOSEY WALES]

Take rugby for example. You dont just make up attacking drills on game day, you practise and practise and practise until it is perfected. Training in my opinion should be hard for preparation for the real thing doesnt matter what sport it is. Tyson never took training easy, he went all out on his sparring partners.

Do you follow union and if so who do you support? :yep Teke i followed and played rugby union all my life until recently , when it went full time pro i just lost intrest as i though the the newly formed districts were paying too much money for low class punks to play for them ,If pushed i support a club i played for as a kid ( Cardiff ) and when the six nations is on i obviously support Wales ,But liker i said Union ain't my top sport currently as over the last five or so years ive rediscovered my love of Boxing ,I fought as an amature but was if im honest fucking shite at it , won more than lost but shite all the same ,As for the tackle bags in training i hated them ,No substitute for the real thing as i was a full back all my life and i found tackling was always a do or die situation in that position ( I have the scars and bent nose to prove this ) lol Surly you know in either sport there is no substitute for the real situation be it in the ring or on the pitch ,Ps ive been laughing my bollocks off on the side reading Oz's rumour thread about your leauge players and their off pitch antics,maybe i should have emigrated to Aussie when i had the chance back in the late 80's ,i would have fitted in rather well down under back in those days . lol

[ajay11]

i followed and played rugby union all my life until recently....

:shock: Me too! We'll not all my life, only four years at high school.

If pushed i support a club i played for as a kid ( Cardiff ) and when the six nations is on i obviously support Wales

:cool: I played for NSW Public Schools and got to go to Canberra and Western Australia. I supported the Australian that won the World Cup a few times.

But liker i said Union ain't my top sport currently

:shock: Me too!

rediscovered my love of Boxing

:huh I thought you were a REAL FAN OF BOXING, not an "on again, off again" critic.

I fought as an amature... won more than lost ....

:happy Now unlike you, I ain't going to call you a bullshit artist...yet.


i was a full back all my life and i found tackling was always a do or die situation in that position ( I have the scars and bent nose to prove this )

:shock: Well fuck me, I played No.15 too !! This is amazing, but I'm still as good looking as ever!!! Maybe you should have learnt how to tackle with your head to the side and kick in attack instead of running into the forwards...

Good fullbacks know how to tackle and tactically kick (among other things.)

lol Surly you know in either sport there is no substitute for the real situation be it in the ring or on the pitch

:huh Pitch? when did cricket come into this?

maybe i should have emigrated to Aussie when i had the chance back in the late 80's ,i would have fitted in rather well down under back in those days . lol

:cool: No you wouldn't because that's when I played and even though I was a teenager I would've fucking destroyed you...drunken bullshit artist.

[JOSEY WALES]

Ajay LMAO Self praise again aye ? Ajay its obvious to a fool you have been watching too many of chocs fights in your "Choc's the real Champ Jacket" , as for destroying me ? well after reading your comments on the Jungle boy thread one question springs to mind ...who's playing the internet tough guy now ?

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:cool: No you wouldn't because that's when I played and even though I was a teenager I would've fucking destroyed you...drunken bullshit artist.

You sir are a keyboard commando nothing more. And FYI we call a rugby field a pitch over here in the UK, since the language you bastardise was originally created here we must be right.

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*Wrong thread*

[teke]

You sir are a keyboard commando nothing more. And FYI we call a rugby field a pitch over here in the UK, since the language you bastardise was originally created here we must be right.really, i thought you guys invented the phrase playing field before pitch :huh

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really, i thought you guys invented the phrase playing field before pitch :huh

That is a possibility but since the entire language was concieved here it really doesn't matter what came first as the meaning is the still the same.

[IrnBruMan]

:shock: Me too! We'll not all my life, only four years at high school.



:cool: I played for NSW Public Schools and got to go to Canberra and Western Australia. I supported the Australian that won the World Cup a few times.



:shock: Me too!



:huh I thought you were a REAL FAN OF BOXING, not an "on again, off again" critic.



:happy Now unlike you, I ain't going to call you a bullshit artist...yet.




:shock: Well fuck me, I played No.15 too !! This is amazing, but I'm still as good looking as ever!!! Maybe you should have learnt how to tackle with your head to the side and kick in attack instead of running into the forwards...

Good fullbacks know how to tackle and tactically kick (among other things.)



:huh Pitch? when did cricket come into this?



:cool: No you wouldn't because that's when I played and even though I was a teenager I would've fucking destroyed you...drunken bullshit artist.

Jeez you're a tool :nut

[ajay11]

Ajay LMAO Self praise again aye ? Ajay its obvious to a fool you have been watching too many of chocs fights in your "Choc's the real Champ Jacket" , as for destroying me ? well after reading your comments on the Jungle boy thread one question springs to mind ...who's playing the internet tough guy now ?

Tough guy, me? Nah.

I did have lamb cutlets for dinner. Do you get lamb cutlets in Wales?

BTW, I aint the one abusing Sonni behind the saftey of my keyboard. I doubt that anyone that has posted on that thread would say any of that shit to his face.

Nah, no reason to play the tough guy here, not with the opposition anyway.... :lol:

Oh yeah, it's good to see a real fan of boxing rediscover his love for it. :patsch

[JOSEY WALES]

Tough guy, me? Nah.

I did have lamb cutlets for dinner. Do you get lamb cutlets in Wales?

BTW, I aint the one abusing Sonni behind the saftey of my keyboard. I doubt that anyone that has posted on that thread would say any of that shit to his face.

Nah, no reason to play the tough guy here, not with the opposition anyway.... :lol:

Oh yeah, it's good to see a real fan of boxing rediscover his love for it. :patsch:patsch Love the style of that sonnie pity he cant box a little aye ?, as for rediscovering my love of boxing ,Yea it had to take a back seat when the kids were young as it was getting too expensive traveling around following the sport but that never stopped me from watching local fighters . now with the kids grown up i have more time to sit back and watch the fights and your fellow countryman expose you as nothing more than a Mundine fan boy/Key board Warrior . Ps enjoy your curried lamb fella :bbb , Regards polite Josey Wales

[ajay11]

:patsch Love the style of that sonnie pity he cant box a little aye ?, as for rediscovering my love of boxing ,Yea it had to take a back seat when the kids were young as it was getting too expensive traveling around following the sport but that never stopped me from watching local fighters . now with the kids grown up i have more time to sit back and watch the fights and your fellow countryman expose you as nothing more than a Mundine fan boy/Key board Warrior . Ps enjoy your curried lamb fella :bbb , Regards polite Josey Wales

1. Sonni's alright, we can't all fight like Sugar Ray Leonard.

2. I like Choc because I can see past all the negativity but I ain't just a "Mundine fanboy" In fact I still rate him behind Australian greats such as Jimmy Carruthers, Kostya Tszyu, Les Darcy, Lionel Rose and the great Young Griffo.

3. CURRIED LAMB CUTTLETS??? We ain't talking about tripe, black pudding or haggis or whatever the hell you peasants eat, this is top quality Australian Lamb mate!!! :thumbsup

[JOSEY WALES]

1. Sonni's alright, we can't all fight like Sugar Ray Leonard.

2. I like Choc because I can see past all the negativity but I ain't just a "Mundine fanboy" In fact I still rate him behind Australian greats such as Jimmy Carruthers, Kostya Tszyu, Les Darcy, Lionel Rose and the great Young Griffo.

3. CURRIED LAMB CUTTLETS??? We ain't talking about tripe, black pudding or haggis or whatever the hell you peasants eat, this is top quality Australian Lamb mate!!! :thumbsup Is that all you have ? You state the obvious in points 1 & 2 then insult me in point 3 , Wow i stand corrected , Mundine ain't ducking anyone after all . ps keep it up mate your making yourself look an even bigger prick with every post .

[ajay11]

Is that all you have ? You state the obvious in points 1 & 2 then insult me in point 3 , Wow i stand corrected , Mundine ain't ducking anyone after all . ps keep it up mate your making yourself look an even bigger prick with every post .

Insult? Fuck you are soft.:crybaby

Peasant

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In fact I still rate him behind Australian greats such as Jimmy Carruthers, Kostya Tszyu, Les Darcy, Lionel Rose and the great Young Griffo.

You don't have Fenech in that bunch? :huh I'd have Harding in front of Anthony as well. His 2 wins against Andries, both away from home (Atlantic City and London) are bigger than Choc's best W's.

[ajay11]

You don't have Fenech in that bunch? :huh I'd have Harding in front of Anthony as well. His 2 wins against Andries, both away from home (Atlantic City and London) are bigger than Choc's best W's.

I wasn't suggesting that these are the only Australian fighters I rate in front of Anthony Mundine. I guess they're the top 5 of the lot though.

Actually I could easily add another 5 while even going as far as putting his old man in front of him, No?

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I wasn't suggesting that these are the only Australian fighters I rate in front of Anthony Mundine. I guess they're the top 5 of the lot though.

Fair enough...


Fenech isn't in your top 5? :huh

[ajay11]

Fair enough...


Fenech isn't in your top 5? :huh

Top 5 Australian ever? You know how tough something like that is. If I said yes but let you find the spot for him, who would you take out?

[ipswich express]

Despite his wins over Vic Toweel, Fenech is definitely above Jimmy Carruthers. Young Griffo is in there somewhere. I'd probably rate Jeff above Darcy as the world never got to see the Maitland Wonder's best.

[ajay11]

Despite his wins over Vic Toweel, Fenech is definitely above Jimmy Carruthers. Young Griffo is in there somewhere. I'd probably rate Jeff above Darcy as the world never got to see the Maitland Wonder's best.

Fai enough, you'd rate Fenech above Carruthers....I don't, but that's the thing about ranking any fighters over more than a century, it's subjective.

It get's even harder when you look at fighters during periods of war and depression, when plenty of our great fighters were restricted to Australia and never got to show the world how great they really were.

It's almost impossible to rank guys like Harding, Vic Patrick, Peter Jackson, Jack Carroll, Hector Thompson as well as the guys mentioned above.

I even have trouble splitting Choc and his old man.

[ipswich express]

Fai enough, you'd rate Fenech above Carruthers....I don't, but that's the thing about ranking any fighters over more than a century, it's subjective.

It get's even harder when you look at fighters during periods of war and depression, when plenty of our great fighters were restricted to Australia and never got to show the world how great they really were.

It's almost impossible to rank guys like Harding, Vic Patrick, Peter Jackson, Jack Carroll, Hector Thompson as well as the guys mentioned above.

I even have trouble splitting Choc and his old man.

I agree. Personally I think Fenech's multiple weight titles and also his performance against Nelson in Vegas counts for a lot. One of the greatest performances by an Aussie ever.

I don't really consider Jackson as Australian, although he's probably got every right to be there. He'd be in my 5 as well.

[JOSEY WALES]

Insult? Fuck you are soft.:crybaby

Peasant LMAO , is that a piccy of Choc after he got KTFO by sven Ottke ?

[ajay11]

I agree. Personally I think Fenech's multiple weight titles and also his performance against Nelson in Vegas counts for a lot. One of the greatest performances by an Aussie ever.

I don't really consider Jackson as Australian, although he's probably got every right to be there. He'd be in my 5 as well.

I can't deny what Fenech achived was spectacular. What must be remembered is that many of the fighters I mentioned fought in an era when boxing was THE No.1 sport, and Australia one of the great boxing nations. To become Australian champion in itself was a wonderful achievement.

As for Peter Jackson, he came to Australia as an infant, went to school and worked here then went on to win the Australian title. After going to the US in his failed bid for a world title fight against the immortal JL Sullivan he came back home and died in Australia.