View Full Version : WBC proves they are the WORLD BOXING CONSPIRACY
Suge Green
07-11-2007, 10:32 PM
Maskaev won't sign to fight PETER, even after all of the BS and runaround...and instead of stripping OLEG, El Presidente Sualiman entertains the idea of having an interim championship (the suggestion of some African official...???...WTF...???...have Peter's people even heard of this guy...???)
Strip Maskaev NOW...Peter vs. Whoever for the belt.
Boom_Boom
07-11-2007, 10:33 PM
WBC = We Be Corrupt
brooklyn1550
07-11-2007, 10:34 PM
The WBC needs to get their shit together
PolishPummler
07-11-2007, 10:35 PM
Read the same thing somewhere else.
I believe Peter would fight the #2 Contender Virchis for the Interim belt.
C Money
07-11-2007, 10:35 PM
All the orgs are corrupt, boxing needs a massive overhaul and a commission which mandates how things happen. The orgs cannot be counted on to run shit in a legit manner.
brooklyn1550
07-11-2007, 10:35 PM
Read the same thing somewhere else.
I believe Peter would fight the #2 Contender Virchis for the Interim belt.
That would be a fun fight to watch
Vantage_West
07-11-2007, 11:03 PM
Read the same thing somewhere else.
I believe Peter would fight the #2 Contender Virchis for the Interim belt.:gunvirchis!!!!!
peter has fought 2 eliminations. he has fought world class ops to get where he is.....and is getting the door in his face becuase of what...vitali is back whoopdefuckingdo. just becuase that wastegman wants to fight for a title straight off...without fighting contenders or a warm up fight remeber ali had to fight quarry and bonavena 2 highly regarded contenders. without giving peter a warning.....maskaev was going to fight sam ages ago it was pratecly a made fight. so now that peter is now out of the picture lets get down to big business.
anyways virchis:rofl he is slow as fuck especially for his size he fights like valuev has limited skills and abilty...he was outboxed by michael sprott now if you know anything about sprott is that he cant punch hard and he isnt a good boxer...when your getting out boxed by a 5'11 feather fisted puncher...then i see loads of room to improve virchis is in no way to compete for peters claim.
RAMPAGE0017
07-11-2007, 11:08 PM
From what I understand Maskaev is vacating the belt in order to take on Vitali. Which I guess is understandable, Maskaev must not have made a shit-load of money throughout his career so he wants to take the risk that has the biggest reward. As for Peter, if Maskaev DOES vacate I'd like to see Peter and McCall mix it up for the title.
Mrboogie23
07-11-2007, 11:17 PM
stupid organizations. If he wants the dough, then he should drop the belt and fight Vitali. it'll be fucked up and make it even more jumbled in the HW division but Peter deserves his shot at the belt. He's been getting dicked around more then long enough.
Heavyrighthand
07-11-2007, 11:34 PM
From what I understand Maskaev is vacating the belt in order to take on Vitali. .
Then they'll have to call off the press conference they've got announced for later this month for Vitali's McCline fight.
So seeing as how Vitali is already fighting someone else, Maskaev's only remaining cash cow fight would be against Wladimir.
Regardless of what Maskaev does, I think Peter should fight one of the other two mandatories the WBC has already asigned, in McCall and Vitali. Since Vitali is already fighting McCline, Peter should fight McCall for the vacated belt (which will be even more worthless than usual, if the man who won it vacates it)
RAMPAGE0017
07-11-2007, 11:36 PM
Then they'll have to call off the press conference they've got announced for later this month for Vitali's McCline fight.
So seeing as how Vitali is already fighting someone else, Maskaev's only remaining cash cow fight would be against Wladimir.
Regardless of what Maskaev does, I think Peter should fight one of the other two mandatories the WBC has already asigned, in McCall and Vitali. Since Vitali is already fighting McCline, Peter should fight McCall for the vacated belt (which will be even more worthless than usual, if the man who won it vacates it)
The McCline/Klitschko fight's happening in September, isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong about the deal with Maskaev, I'm just going by what I heard.
Bazooka
07-11-2007, 11:38 PM
I will bet you that the WBC pulls some bogus shit and forces Peter to face the highest rated contender out there and who do you think this will be? V Klitschko mark my words the WBC is biased in favor of these fucks.
V Klitschko shouldnt even be considered in the top ten right now, he has been retired for a couple of years and should have to fight a couple fights before being rated in the top ten.
Maxime
07-12-2007, 02:13 AM
If I was Peter I'd tell the WBC to put their belt where the sun doesnt shine and move on with my career.
brooklyn1550
07-12-2007, 02:19 AM
For fucks sake, Maskaev should be forced to fight Peter or be stripped - it's that simple. Then Peter can fight Maskaev or fight for a vacant title against McCall or Virchis with the winner facing Vitali should he defeat McCline.
Amsterdam
07-12-2007, 02:21 AM
For fucks sake, Maskaev should be forced to fight Peter or be stripped - it's that simple. Then Peter can fight Maskaev or fight for a vacant title against McCall or Virchis with the winner facing Vitali should he defeat McCline.
Maskaev's being a bitch because he knows this is an impossible fight for him to win with his glass chin, slow legs and sometimes leaky defence. Peter would rush him and remove him in the 1st or 2nd.
This isn't glass chinned Rahman.
But he should absolutely be stripped and disrespected for this. Worst part is that some of these fools pick Maskaev to win...
For fucks sake, Maskaev should be forced to fight Peter or be stripped - it's that simple. Then Peter can fight Maskaev or fight for a vacant title against McCall or Virchis with the winner facing Vitali should he defeat McCline.
:good
The WBC, as with all the other orgs, simply needs to go. :oops:
brooklyn1550
07-12-2007, 02:25 AM
:good
The WBC, as with all the other orgs, simply needs to go. :oops:
This WBC mess is what is wrong with boxing - it's on full display
Jambon
07-12-2007, 03:17 AM
Maskaev's being a bitch because he knows this is an impossible fight for him to win with his glass chin, slow legs and sometimes leaky defence. Peter would rush him and remove him in the 1st or 2nd.
This isn't glass chinned Rahman.
But he should absolutely be stripped and disrespected for this. Worst part is that some of these fools pick Maskaev to win...
Well, if he grabs, he could win despite a weak chin.
brooklyn1550
07-12-2007, 03:22 AM
In all honesty, I think Maskaev knows he doesn't have that much longer. If he wins, great, but he wants to get the most money possible to secure a good living for he and his family and he wants to walk away with his health intact.
psychopath
07-12-2007, 03:45 AM
Maskaev won't sign to fight PETER, even after all of the BS and runaround...and instead of stripping OLEG, El Presidente Sualiman entertains the idea of having an interim championship (the suggestion of some African official...???...WTF...???...have Peter's people even heard of this guy...???)
Strip Maskaev NOW...Peter vs. Whoever for the belt.
Fuck Sulaiman! IF WBC can strip other champs with their belts like what happened to Casamayor, why can't they strip Maskaev with his title? :think
Farmboxer
07-12-2007, 03:52 AM
Vitali is the Emeritus champion and was promised to get the first shot at the title. Those are the rules "before" Peter the rabbit puncher was into the picture. Who is the Hell has Peter ever fought and beaten. He lost to Toney in the first fight but Toney was robbed. Vitali will knock Peter out. Don King is the one who wanted to stop Vitali from fighting Maskaev, Peter would have made a fortune for that fight, and step aside money for doing nothing also, yet Don King did not want that, he wanted Peter to wait until September after saying he could not wait until September, plus, Maskaev had until August to fight Peter, however, Don King is afraid of Vitali and Vlad.
Farmboxer
07-12-2007, 03:53 AM
The same bigots did not complain when the WBC stripped Rocco of his title and giving to to Roid Jones!
UKITAZ
07-12-2007, 04:15 AM
Simple, if Maskaev refuses to fight Peter, then surely it has to be Sam Peter vs Vitali Klitschko ???
If that doesnt happen it should be the highest ranked wbc heavyweight, which is Vladimir Virchis ...
If neither happen, then theres definitely some anti-Ukrainian shit going down at the WBC !!!
barneyrub
07-12-2007, 08:04 AM
Vitali is the Emeritus champion and was promised to get the first shot at the title. Those are the rules "before" Peter the rabbit puncher was into the picture. Who is the Hell has Peter ever fought and beaten. He lost to Toney in the first fight but Toney was robbed. Vitali will knock Peter out. Don King is the one who wanted to stop Vitali from fighting Maskaev, Peter would have made a fortune for that fight, and step aside money for doing nothing also, yet Don King did not want that, he wanted Peter to wait until September after saying he could not wait until September, plus, Maskaev had until August to fight Peter, however, Don King is afraid of Vitali and Vlad.vitali is one of the wbc heavyweight emeritus champions actually, lewis also holds that title lol. If he came back he could claim the first title shot also just to further make a mockery of the wbc.
cross_trainer
07-12-2007, 10:01 AM
Maskaev won't sign to fight PETER, even after all of the BS and runaround...and instead of stripping OLEG, El Presidente Sualiman entertains the idea of having an interim championship (the suggestion of some African official...???...WTF...???...have Peter's people even heard of this guy...???)
Strip Maskaev NOW...Peter vs. Whoever for the belt.
Your rabblerousing rhetorical skills are impressive. :D
Nevertheless, I agree. Peter should be awarded the title if Maskaev refuses to defend. The WBC seems like they never want to let a title holder go...
Shpion
07-12-2007, 10:16 AM
Your rabblerousing rhetorical skills are impressive. :D
Nevertheless, I agree. Peter should be awarded the title if Maskaev refuses to defend. The WBC seems like they never want to let a title holder go...
I completely disagree with you. Why should he be awarded the title without a fight? If Maskaev refuses than he needs to fight Vitaly. If Vitaly is not available then he needs to fight the #2 guy with the winner facing Vitaly.
WBC- WORLD'S BIGEST CHUMPS.
onepunch.net
07-12-2007, 10:29 AM
Actually, Oleg has some ground to stand on here.....
1. He has every right to appeal the WBC's ad******g of the purse bid split. Basically, the WBC decided to take money from Oleg, and hand it to Peter. Who the f*ck is Peter that standard purse bid splits shouldn't apply to him?
2. Peter's promoter (Duva), defaulted on the purse bid, so it fell to King for less money. I suppose this is Oleg's fault too?
2. Up until the other day, there wasn't even a date or site confirmed. Why in the hell would Oleg sign a bout agreement with no date or site?
Look, everyone wants to pile on Oleg here, but I really don't blame him. Peter's people need to get their shit together......
cross_trainer
07-12-2007, 10:35 AM
I completely disagree with you. Why should he be awarded the title without a fight? If Maskaev refuses than he needs to fight Vitaly. If Vitaly is not available then he needs to fight the #2 guy with the winner facing Vitaly.
WBC- WORLD'S BIGEST CHUMPS.
I meant with a fight against the #2 contender, not just handing the belt to him. My point was that he should not be given the "interim" title or any such foolishness.
Shpion
07-12-2007, 10:39 AM
I meant with a fight against the #2 contender, not just handing the belt to him. My point was that he should not be given the "interim" title or any such foolishness.
:good
onepunch.net
07-12-2007, 10:44 AM
I meant with a fight against the #2 contender, not just handing the belt to him. My point was that he should not be given the "interim" title or any such foolishness.
Hey, if it's good enough for Casamayor, it's good enough for Peter... lol
TBooze
07-12-2007, 11:20 AM
Why Bother Corresponding?;)
Everyone claims to be up in arms, about what has happened, but all you are doing is giving the WBC name attention.
If you do not want the WBC to exist, boycott it, ignore it, then if enough people do it, it will go away.
El Bombasto
07-12-2007, 11:23 AM
:gunvirchis!!!!!
peter has fought 2 eliminations. he has fought world class ops to get where he is.....and is getting the door in his face becuase of what...vitali is back whoopdefuckingdo. just becuase that wastegman wants to fight for a title straight off...without fighting contenders or a warm up fight remeber ali had to fight quarry and bonavena 2 highly regarded contenders. without giving peter a warning.....maskaev was going to fight sam ages ago it was pratecly a made fight. so now that peter is now out of the picture lets get down to big business.
anyways virchis:rofl he is slow as fuck especially for his size he fights like valuev has limited skills and abilty...he was outboxed by michael sprott now if you know anything about sprott is that he cant punch hard and he isnt a good boxer...when your getting out boxed by a 5'11 feather fisted puncher...then i see loads of room to improve virchis is in no way to compete for peters claim.
:huh
Bazooka
07-12-2007, 12:02 PM
Vitali is the Emeritus champion and was promised to get the first shot at the title. Those are the rules "before" Peter the rabbit puncher was into the picture. Who is the Hell has Peter ever fought and beaten. He lost to Toney in the first fight but Toney was robbed. Vitali will knock Peter out. Don King is the one who wanted to stop Vitali from fighting Maskaev, Peter would have made a fortune for that fight, and step aside money for doing nothing also, yet Don King did not want that, he wanted Peter to wait until September after saying he could not wait until September, plus, Maskaev had until August to fight Peter, however, Don King is afraid of Vitali and Vlad.
This Emertrius Champion bullshit was created specificly for Vitali, I have followed this sport since I was in short pants let me tell you I have never EVER heard of the Emertrius Champion until Vitali retired.
Peter has twice paid sanctioning fees and won both fights against Toney doesnt matter how you think the first fight went, Peter won that and proved he won it in the rematch either way Vitali should not be in the top ten after a two year lay off he should have to take a fight or two before being rated there.
again Who else has there been that has been the Emertrius Champion? I bet you cant name on prior to V Klitschko, and you think its King trying to dogg out the Klits, looks to me like the Klits have the WBC on their payroll
kg0208
07-12-2007, 12:57 PM
This Emertrius Champion bullshit was created specificly for Vitali, I have followed this sport since I was in short pants let me tell you I have never EVER heard of the Emertrius Champion until Vitali retired.
Peter has twice paid sanctioning fees and won both fights against Toney doesnt matter how you think the first fight went, Peter won that and proved he won it in the rematch either way Vitali should not be in the top ten after a two year lay off he should have to take a fight or two before being rated there.
again Who else has there been that has been the Emertrius Champion? I bet you cant name on prior to V Klitschko, and you think its King trying to dogg out the Klits, looks to me like the Klits have the WBC on their payroll
I thought Lewis was....if he isn't then I am mistaken.
Bazooka
07-12-2007, 01:31 PM
I thought Lewis was....if he isn't then I am mistaken.
I will leave this up to the know it all Klitschko fans! since they seem to know so fucking much, but to answer your question No Lewis was not!
Maskaev has refused this specific contract: it doesn't mean that he won't take the fight. He only needs to accept if he's being offered it on the proper standard terms for a mandatory. They should make sure he's being offered what he should be, and strip him if he doesn't take that, not create a third champ (after Maskaev, and the "Emeritus" Vitali) in Peter.
joeboxer
07-12-2007, 02:08 PM
Maskaev won't sign to fight PETER, even after all of the BS and runaround...and instead of stripping OLEG, El Presidente Sualiman entertains the idea of having an interim championship (the suggestion of some African official...???...WTF...???...have Peter's people even heard of this guy...???)
Strip Maskaev NOW...Peter vs. Whoever for the belt.ya this is total crap. but I would say the wbc is no worse than the other sanctioning bodies. see Ray Austin vs. Wladimir Klitschko as to how a title shot can be corrupt.
Heavyrighthand
07-12-2007, 02:08 PM
They should make sure he's being offered what he should be, .
But that's just it; they are not offering him what he should be getting. Maskaev being the titleholder should get his fair percentage of 70, or 75%. Why should he tuck his tail and accept a mere 55%, when he's in the twilight of his career, and fought like hell to finally get here?
I may be wrong, and no offense to those who disagree..........but I don't see how they can suddenly overturn the standard purse split and screw Oleg out of 20% that is rightly his. Just because they think Peter may be a bigger draw in the US does not override the fact that Oleg is the titleholder who won the damned thing, and all the clout that goes with it, in the ring.
Can I get a witness? :good
Bazooka
07-12-2007, 02:11 PM
Being that Peter already fought two fights with Toney the WBC title should be stripped and given to Peter! traditionaly this is how things have gone look at Rahman after Vitali refused to fight him look at Lewis after Bowe dumped the belt.
This is no different Peter should be named the Champion
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