The Official Marvin Hagler Was Awesome Thread [Archive]

brooklyn1550

03-12-2008, 11:24 PM

Hagler was a fighter in every sense of the word. Not only did he give his all during training and fight almost every fight as though it was his last, he worked his way up the hard way, going through the Philadelphia stable of middleweights including Eugene Hart, Bobby Watts, and Bennie Briscoe. It took him over 50 fights to finally secure a world title belt.

People remember him as a come-forward brawler from the Hearns and Mugabi fights. But his skill is very underrated; he was a great counterpuncher, had a laser right jab, a versatile defense that he would adjust based on the style of his opponent, and fantastic timing. And his chin may have been the best in boxing history P4P.

Just an all-around complete fighter.

sues2nd

03-12-2008, 11:26 PM

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compukiller

03-12-2008, 11:29 PM

Hail The Marvelous One!!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

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vargasfan1985

03-12-2008, 11:32 PM

thanks sues2nd

i love hagler. i need to buy a dvd collection of his fights. its a crime SRL didnt give the man a rematch.

hagler will always be one of my favs. i wasnt even born when he came on to the scene. i wish more fighters were like that. they dont make em like they use to i guess

sues2nd

03-12-2008, 11:36 PM

vargasfan1985

03-12-2008, 11:39 PM

im watching the hbo legendary nights hagler SRL piece

hagler was the $hit. watching those clips reminds me of how much of a brutal fighter he could be

brooklyn1550

03-12-2008, 11:41 PM

Here's some marvelous highlights...

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If anybody wants to see Hagler at his best, I'd suggest his fights against Loucif Hamani, Mustafa Hamsho, and Tony Sibson.

vargasfan1985

03-12-2008, 11:45 PM

i heard hagler would run up and down sand dunes in combat boots during training. pretty much he was a gym rat and was focused like no other

klion22

03-12-2008, 11:47 PM

Wow, i'll be honest. That's the first time i saw the Hagler/Hearns fight. Hagler simply wore Hearns down. Hearns was on rubber legs midway through the 2nd.

I've always liked Hagler. I've watched all his career summaries whether that's HBO or Sportscentury. I know he had to work his way up to get a shot at a title. I know that in his first title win, it was in England and he beat up their champ so bad, they threw stuff in the ring. He always felt he was disrespected. I always felt bad for him when SRR didn't give him a rematch. A bitch move by SRR if you ask me. He always came across as a blue collar, hard worker. He never cheated his way to greatness. I guess that's why i love Hopkins. He and Hagler are similiar. Nothing was given to them. They had to earn it.

vargasfan1985

03-12-2008, 11:50 PM

i cant believe that was the first time you saw that fight?

im glad i started this thread! lol

hagler was INSANE

klion22

03-12-2008, 11:53 PM

i cant believe that was the first time you saw that fight?

im glad i started this thread! lol

hagler was INSANE

I'll be honest, i didn't become a hard core boxing fan until about 2003 because i fell in love with RJJ. But prior to that, i was just a casual fan. I love boxing now. I have a lot to make up. :good

Illmatic

03-12-2008, 11:57 PM

to play devils advocate here:

SRL fought on, while Hagler chose to bitch and complain for 30 years.

sues2nd

03-12-2008, 11:59 PM

to play devils advocate here:

SRL fought on, while Hagler chose to bitch and complain for 30 years.

:-(

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Well......at least you have good taste in music....

brooklyn1550

03-13-2008, 12:00 AM

i heard hagler would run up and down sand dunes in combat boots during training. pretty much he was a gym rat and was focused like no other

I had the opportunity to see him train for about a year in Massachusetts. He was extremely intense in the gym; probably the hardest worker I've ever came across in any profession. There was absolutely no fooling around - he was all business.

I remember he was rocked during a sparring session with Frank "Tiger" Moore. Hagler turned away, put his glove up in the air, and said "hold on a second." Moore turned to Goody, shook his head and smiled as if to say "that's right, I stunned Marvin." Goody just looked at him and said "you're full of shit.":lol:

vargasfan1985

03-13-2008, 12:01 AM

the man never put on a pair of gloves again

he was heart broken. i cant blame him.

he earned the right to bitch and moan all he wanted. not his fault SRL wouldnt rematch him

Illmatic

03-13-2008, 12:02 AM

the man never put on a pair of gloves again

he was heart broken. i cant blame him.

he earned the right to bitch and moan all he wanted. not his fault SRL wouldnt rematch him

i disagree...that fight was no robbery.

cardstars

03-13-2008, 12:04 AM

Hagler is my ATF (all time favorite). He is THE DEFINITION of a boxer. Arguably the best chin ever to boot. Awesome thread

vargasfan1985

03-13-2008, 12:04 AM

i didnt say it was a robbery but hagler obviously felt as if he won

and i scored it 7-5 SRL but im sure i could change that score every time

klion22

03-13-2008, 12:04 AM

the man never put on a pair of gloves again

he was heart broken. i cant blame him.

he earned the right to bitch and moan all he wanted. not his fault SRL wouldnt rematch him

I know. And that tells you how much this meant to him. I can't help but see the similarities between him and Hopkins. Both guys earned their way to the top. Both guys were gym rats and had the disciplined to stay at one weight class for years. And both guys attached their identity to "Middle Weight Champion of the World". That meant everything to them. That was their identity. Both guys are throwbacks.

vargasfan1985

03-13-2008, 12:05 AM

Hagler is my ATF (all time favorite). He is THE DEFINITION of a boxer. Arguably the best chin ever to boot. Awesome thread

i saw to many JMM Manny P threads. figured id throw in a blast from the past!

vargasfan1985

03-13-2008, 12:07 AM

I know. And that tells you how much this meant to him. I can't help but see the similarities between him and Hopkins. Both guys earned their way to the top. Both guys were gym rats and had the disciplined to stay at one weight class for years. And both guys attached their identity to "Middle Weight Champion of the World". That meant everything to them. That was their identity. Both guys are throwbacks.

i agree hopkins went the hard road as well as hagler. i always thought they were a lot alike.

only hagler was a little more exciting to watch

cardstars

03-13-2008, 12:08 AM

i saw to many JMM Manny P threads. figured id throw in a blast from the past!

Damn straight bro :good

vargasfan1985

03-13-2008, 12:11 AM

thats right!

someone should load some hagler mugabi clips. talk about violent!

cardstars

03-13-2008, 12:20 AM

thats right!

someone should load some hagler mugabi clips. talk about violent!

I voted Hagler/Mugabi as my favorite "rare gem" fight in a thread a while back. What a great fight. Here is my favorite tribute:

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vargasfan1985

03-13-2008, 12:22 AM

you rock! im watching as soon as im done writing this

Thread Stealer

03-13-2008, 12:35 AM

Hagler had one of the best jabbing exhibitions I've ever seen, against Tony Sibson (he also jabbed the shit out of Hamsho and Mugabi among others). I'm not too much of a Hagler fan, but he was one great fighter. Very versatile, a complete prize fighter.

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Suge Green

03-13-2008, 01:04 AM

Hagler is the greatest boxer/fighter/warrior/champion ever.

Much respect to everyone in this thread who recognizes that. :smoke

PedroDePacas

03-13-2008, 01:31 AM

Great, great fighter. He was the guy who got me interested in boxing in the first place. :good

Illmatic

03-13-2008, 02:02 AM

how do u guys think he wouldve done against Hopkins?

Suge Green

03-13-2008, 02:06 AM

how do u guys think he wouldve done against Hopkins?

He beats him. Bernard will have to fight him...he can't win the way he got robbed in the JT fight. He'd have to fight like he did Trinidad or Joppy. He couldn't just try to beat him, he'd have to try to bury him...which as much as I like Bernard, I must admit he wouldn't pull off.

If he tried any of the holding shit, Marvelous will murder him to the body, create space and throw vicioius combos.

booradley

03-13-2008, 02:29 AM

When Marvin Haglar elected to fight Mustafo Hamsho in only his 3rd title defense, I thought he had lost his freaking mind. When he won by TKO in a rather one-sided 11 rounds, i pretty much knew we were looking at a great, great champion.

As for the SRL fight, for years I thought it was a robbery. However, I watched it recently on Ringside Classics, and came away feeling that Ray won. Haglar screwed up and gave away the first 4 rounds.

I have a freind who is in is 80's and a life long boxing fan. He actually saw Robinson fight live several times. According to him Haglar/Robinson would be a candidate for fight of the decade in any decade. That's pretty high praise coming from a guy who watched Sugar Ray Robinson at ringside!

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Sweet Pea

03-13-2008, 06:19 AM

He beats him. Bernard will have to fight him...he can't win the way he got robbed in the JT fight. He'd have to fight like he did Trinidad or Joppy. He couldn't just try to beat him, he'd have to try to bury him...which as much as I like Bernard, I must admit he wouldn't pull off.

If he tried any of the holding shit, Marvelous will murder him to the body, create space and throw vicioius combos.Hopkins would probably hold the slight inside edge. On the outside, Hagler's jab is th ebest weapon of the two, though Hopkins has a great straight right, good for southpaws. Interesting matchup, pretty much a legit 50/50 fight.

Anyways, Hagler was awesome in his prime, a great boxer, so much more than the brawler he became late due to his diminishing athleticism by that time. Great counter-puncher with very good accuracy, underrated movement and slipping skills, punch placement, and killer instinct.

He was not robbed on my cards against Leonard though.

dangerousity

03-13-2008, 09:00 AM

I was named after him so couldnt help but like him :)

bill poster

03-13-2008, 09:04 AM

Does he still live in Milan?

McGrain

03-13-2008, 09:09 AM

:-(

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Well......at least you have good taste in music....

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McGrain

03-13-2008, 09:16 AM

how do u guys think he wouldve done against Hopkins?

Hopkins in an ugly one where everyone on ESB argues about the result for a bout a year.

Smirf

03-13-2008, 09:36 AM

I do...I gotcha back bro!!!

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sthomas

03-13-2008, 10:16 AM

Haglar was fantastic. First time I saw him was fight #1 against Vito A. People scream that Haglar was ripped off, I thought Haglar should have got the edge but it was a great fight. Seems like the outcome of that fight launched Haglar to a different level as a boxer, can't give the ref. any wiggle room so I'll just have to destroy my opponents. He really did slow down toward the end of his career, and that fight against Mugabi showed. Leonard chose Haglar @ the perfect time and Haglar threw away the first couple rounds by boxing conventional stance. I do not think it was a bad decision with Leonard winning, I had it a draw, but Haglar could have won if he chose to fight a more Marvin Haglar stratedgy