Whitaker on PBF: 'Maybe I'd let him carry my bags to the dressing room'

[sweet_scientist]

His words on ESPN.

Thoughts?

[jyuza]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.

[T.C.W]

maywaether is all time great and i think he would beat sweet pea.

[Cookie]

Whitaker sounds like a jealous old fool. Who'd want to carry any of his bags anyway? You'd get fucking surrounded by sniffer dogs and busted by the police.

[jyuza]

maywaether is all time great and i think he would beat sweet pea.

So is Pernell. Can you elaborate about "Floyd would beat Pea" please ?

[nervousxtian]

I think Floyd beats Whitaker as well.

Floyd has more pop than Pernell, and is as fast at 135 as Pernell every was, and elusive.

It'd be a terrible fight to watch though, a lot of posturing and not a lot of action.

[deram]

Mayweahter hs done a lot on paper. The big BUT is that he did so in the cheapest of cheap ways - simply by meeting the worst belt keeper at each weight generally.

On the other hand - he IS a good fighter and there are not many that currently would beat him. BUT (again) fact is that he has avoided the ones that could. Hatton, Cotto, Spinks are three that he definitely need to meet if he wants such a grand claim to fame. I believe Taylor could be lmw, smw, lhw, cw and probably even hw champ as long as he looked for and was lucky enough so that there was a really weak champion at each weight.

[Senya13]

Floyd could teach Pernell a thing or two in the ring. But I don't think Whitaker can teach Mayweather anything. Floyd's a more complete fighter.

[shelterr]

At 135 Floyd was basically unbeatable. His punches had a LOT of pop at that weight and he was fast as hell. And Whitaker wouldn't have been the guy to beat him.

[Spitfire7]

... And prolly, let him hold his hand to cross the street too.:D

[jyuza]

You all agree on Floyd beating Pernell but none has described how he would.

Come on guys. I am curious.

[bladerunner]

At 135 Floyd was basically unbeatable. His punches had a LOT of pop at that weight and he was fast as hell. And Whitaker wouldn't have been the guy to beat him.
he looked like shit at 135 and if it wasnt for the judges he would have a loss to Castillo.his other two fights at 135 were against Sosa and the second fight with Castillo and he didnt look good in either.

[Raggamuffin]

You all agree on Floyd beating Pernell but none has described how he would.

Come on guys. I am curious.

So am I.
While Floyd is now a great fighter he is not ready to be called a ATG.
Sweet Pea would make this a very interresting fight. Defencifly he was imo slightly better but Floyd has a edge in power.

[bladerunner]

Floyd could teach Pernell a thing or two in the ring. But I don't think Whitaker can teach Mayweather anything. Floyd's a more complete fighter.
if Judah can win 4 rounds and knock Floyd down then Whitaker who is 20 times better than Judah would give him a boxing lesson and you can bet that Whitaker wouldnt fade down the stretch.

[Senya13]

if Judah can win 4 rounds and knock Floyd down then Whitaker who is 20 times better than Judah would give him a boxing lesson and you can bet that Whitaker wouldnt fade down the stretch.
If Roger Mayweather could win 4 rounds and knock Whitaker down... (could have scored another knockdown in the 1st round, if he hadn't got caught himself, he clearly hurt Whitaker prior to his own KD).

[MSTR]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.

Truer words never spoken

[bladerunner]

If Roger Mayweather could win 4 rounds and knock Whitaker down... (could have scored another knockdown in the 1st round, if he hadn't got caught himself, he clearly hurt Whitaker prior to his own KD).
uncle rog is not similar to Floyd completely diferent styles and he didnt won four rounds.

[jyuza]

If Roger Mayweather could win 4 rounds and knock Whitaker down... (could have scored another knockdown in the 1st round, if he hadn't got caught himself, he clearly hurt Whitaker prior to his own KD).

Rogaa was damn lucky to finish the fight, I can remember he was almost getting KTFO by the "light hitter" Sweet Pea. And the knock down you refer wasn't a legit knock down, it was more a slip or something (can't recall what though I need to rewatch it).

In the case of Floyd, not so long ago, he had trouble against the faded Oscar De La Hoya and won a controversial decision when a faded Pea gave hell to a prime Oscar and lost a controversial decision.

So ? Have you, guys, any counter argument or something plausible ?

[jyuza]

Truer words never spoken

I am sorry, but lately I grew up a certain anger toward Mayweather(s)
:-(

[FlatNose]

Seems a lot of folks here pick Floyd over Pernell.But I have to wonder if they are really as familiar with Whittaker as they are with Floyd.To me , its more of a toss up, pick em fight.Pernells mastery over Chavez, Ramirez, and Vasquez is slightly more impressive than Floyds wins over Corrales, Castillio and DLH.But you never know how guys would fare against one another until they square off.I'm siding with Whittaker, who had more skills than Mayweather , who depends more on superior reflexes, and natural hand and foot speed.Pernell had a rare ability to shut the other guy down, and this would allow him to nip Floyd down the stretch.

[Tencount85]

I wish Pernell would take a page out of Larry Holmes book and tell the world PBF can't carry his jock strap

[Senya13]

Roger Mayweather was a class or two below his nephew. And he won 4 rounds on 2 judges scorecards (on my scorecard he lost only by 1 or 2 points). He had Whitaker in real trouble in the 1st round, more real than the flash KD Judah scored over Floyd.
As for DLH, what weight division was it for Floyd and how many fights did he have there? And how many did Pernell have?

[jyuza]

Please Whitaker got wooped by Oscar. Floyd beat on Oscar like a rented mule.
Floyd would TKO Whitaker.

You aren't quite happy with Whitaker's achievement, are you ? :yikes

ps: Even Tito couldn't KO/TKO a shot Whitaker....

[MSTR]

Rogaa was damn lucky to finish the fight, I can remember he was almost getting KTFO by the "light hitter" Sweet Pea. And the knock down you refer wasn't a legit knock down, it was more a slip or something (can't recall what though I need to rewatch it).

In the case of Floyd, not so long ago, he had trouble against the faded Oscar De La Hoya and won a controversial decision when a faded Pea gave hell to a prime Oscar and lost a controversial decision.

So ? Have you, guys, any counter argument or something plausible ?

Before Mayweather fought Oscar I had my doubts that Sweet Pea was the better fighter, but I thought the exact same thing you brought up after the fight.

If a prime Oscar couldn't hurt an old Whitaker, and a prime Mayweather could only just beat an old Oscar.... Makes me think that Sweet Pea was the better fighter.

Then again, you have to add in the weight factor for Mayweather which plays a big part, as he was in with a naturally bigger man.

[achillesthegreat]

He is just hating. He probably feels threatened. It happens.

[jyuza]

Before Mayweather fought Oscar I had my doubts that Sweet Pea was the better fighter, but I thought the exact same thing you brought up after the fight.

If a prime Oscar couldn't hurt an old Whitaker, and a prime Mayweather could only just beat an old Oscar.... Makes me think that Sweet Pea was the better fighter.

Then again, you have to add in the weight factor for Mayweather which plays a big part, as he was in with a naturally bigger man.

The weight is definitely an issue for a fighter like Mayweather, he was smaller than Oscar.

Sweet Pea fought a true 154er in Vasquez and put a boxing clinic like he used to back in those days.
Mayweather fought pretty hard opposition in Judah (former lightweight) and Oscar (former super featherweight)... in fact, they aren't even in their best weight classes either.

[Melo]

sweet pea beats floyd. better defense, and better offense. he would frustrate floyd at his own game of pot shotting, and running all over the ring, but since sweet pea is much more offensive than pbf he wins by 3 to 5 rounds.
:nut you have never seen Floyd at 130 have you?

[George W Hedge]

Whitaker is a better boxer & imo would beat floyd but I think floyd is a little too good to carry anyones bags... funny shit tho.
:lol:

[Tettsuo]

sweet pea beats floyd. better defense, and better offense. he would frustrate floyd at his own game of pot shotting, and running all over the ring, but since sweet pea is much more offensive than pbf he wins by 3 to 5 rounds.
Doubt it. Mayweather will become the stalker just like he did against Mitchell and Judah. He'd have to be, because Sweet Pea would be fighter defensively.

Mayweather's speed, intelligent offense and defense would win the fight for him. Mayweather is one of the most accurate punches I've ever seen, he'll definitely hit Sweet Pea and force him to fight more defensively... thus not getting any of his own shots off.

But, I don't see PBF KOing Sweet Pea. No way.

[marauder1999]

Sweet pea would make some sweet pea soup with Pretty boys skills.

[sweet_scientist]

he looked like shit at 135 and if it wasnt for the judges he would have a loss to Castillo.his other two fights at 135 were against Sosa and the second fight with Castillo and he didnt look good in either.

Couldn't agree more. Of all the weight classes he has competed in, he has been the worst at 135.

He probably should have lost the first Castillo fight (I thought he did) and he won the second fight 8-4 in another competitive fight with Castillo in the rematch. Against Sosa he looked troubled during the middle rounds and only really got on top late in the fight.

Basically unbeatable? How about basically crawling over the line.

[sweet_scientist]

Roger Mayweather was a class or two below his nephew. And he won 4 rounds on 2 judges scorecards (on my scorecard he lost only by 1 or 2 points). He had Whitaker in real trouble in the 1st round, more real than the flash KD Judah scored over Floyd.
As for DLH, what weight division was it for Floyd and how many fights did he have there? And how many did Pernell have?

LOL I'd love to see your round by round for that fight. This could possibly top your 116-112 for Jones in the third Tarver fight!

[Melo]

The funny thing is, if Floyd would have said this, the forum would have exploded, with people going on and on about how arrogant Floyd is etc. etc...

[sweet_scientist]

Floyd could teach Pernell a thing or two in the ring. But I don't think Whitaker can teach Mayweather anything. Floyd's a more complete fighter.

I think Pernell could teach him how to throw a combination.

I also think he could teach him how to dodge a combination whilst standing in range rather than cowering back and along the ropes.

He coud probably teach him how to land 4 or 500 punches rather than throw that many as well.

:good

[Melo]

get a life jerk off. Yeah wow great response, now I see why you would say "Whitaker is MUCH more offensive than Floyd", you're clearly a moron! But that's not your fault of course...

[Melo]

your right it is YOUR fault. I am stating my opinion on this and you come in and running out the mouth about how i never saw pbf at 130 trying to be a douche bag and start shit. so deal with it. if you don't like it stick to the topic and stop running your mouth jerk off. to call floyd offensive is a totally moronic statement, and pernell is not either, but in relation to floyd he is far more offensive. he stood to to toe with oscar, and chavez when he needed to, but floyd is never gonna do that against either of those fighters. people never booed at whittaker for being boring, perhaps that is because he was just offensive enough to satisfy the offensive minded fan?
:rofl I never said it was my fault stupid, learn to read, I said it wasn't your fault that you're a MORON. The fact that you don't get that further proves that you are slightly retarded...

The bottom line is this, Floyd and Whitaker are both defensive fighters, neither one of them is MUCH more offensive than the other. Floyd has stood toe to toe with fighters, watch the Corley fight, and furthermore Whitaker has been booed, stop lying... Or maybe you are just a cokehead like your idol...

Now excuse me I have to go out in the real world, take care :hi:

[Scorpion]

Whitaker would destroy Floyd.

[MilesP]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.


that's the goal of any fighter/professional athlete :hi:

[Outboxer]

Floyd didn't look impressive against a faded DLH, and he's apparently in his PRIME right now.

A faded Whitaker made a younger DLH looks absolutely ridiculous at points (missing, what was it, an 10+ punch combination at close range?) and even managed to score an unclean KD against him. He also didn't get a large amount of his punches blocked by DLH's gloves, as was the case for Floyd Jr. Whitaker had a better jab than Mayweather, was more elusive (although Mayweather is also a defensive master) and can match up in speed at the lower weights - to top it off nicely, he was a southpaw.

If the VERY limited southpaw Zab Judah gave Mayweather some trouble, Whitaker is going to outbox him to a UD.

[Senya13]

I think Pernell could teach him how to throw a combination.

I also think he could teach him how to dodge a combination whilst standing in range rather than cowering back and along the ropes.

He coud probably teach him how to land 4 or 500 punches rather than throw that many as well.

:good
Have you seen Mayweather - N'dou?

[Thread Stealer]

Whitaker-Mayweather Jr. is a tough fight to call. They're both very skilled defensive fighters whose offense can be overlooked as well. Floyd's been more conservative in the last couple of fights, but he does have a pretty effective offense with a variety of shots he is effective with, and he's usually pretty accurate. Whitaker was very adept at throwing hooks to the body on the inside, or using his right forearm and pushing his opponent back, then coming with the left hand. Whitaker had a brilliant right jab.

Whitaker, similar to Floyd, while a defensive specialist, can still be hit. Everybody gets hit. I've seen him take his share of shots at 135 from guys like Roger Mayweather, Jorge Paez, Freddie Pendelton, etc...The punch he is easiest (or actually, the least difficult) to hit with is the straight right, a Mayweather speciality. Floyd, for his part, has had some degree of difficulty against lefties. He didn't fight any @ 135, but at 140 and 147. He fought more aggressively against Corley and got hit way more than usual, but still ultimately won 11 or 12 rounds of the fight. Mitchell, well, that was a mismatch. Judah's speed and southpaw style gave Floyd problems for the first 3rd of the fight until Floyd got the timing down and started attacking the body with consistency.

It's a tough fight to call, I guess I would lean towards Whitaker by a close decision.

At 135 Floyd was basically unbeatable. His punches had a LOT of pop at that weight and he was fast as hell. And Whitaker wouldn't have been the guy to beat him.

:lol:

At 135, Mayweather scored two KOs in 5 fights (not including those over the 130 lb limit bouts he had prior to beating Genaro). He had his toughest fight as a pro, the first fight against Castillo. That's far from "unbeatable".

He's a slight underdog against J.C. Chavez and a bigger underdog (still a live one) against Roberto Duran at 135.

Floyd was better at 130.

[pit]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.

but yet he Loves Zab :patsch :roll: :lol:

[jyuza]

but yet he Loves Zab :patsch :roll: :lol:

Zab or Floyd.... a hell of a choice !

[Melo]

This fight is at 135 you tool, so that really doesn't matter now does it? Whitaker was WAY more offensive than Floyd at 135. He threw punches all fight long at an amazing rate. 100+ per round and 1000+ per fight. Floyd would never dream of doing anything like that. Floyd pot shots and relies on his quickness and accuracy to hit and not be hit. Not Pernell, he stood in front of you, fired off combos and still wouldn't be hit. Pernell>Mayweather, only a noob or a nuthugger thinks differently.
You ARE a nuthugger you idiot :lol: I never said the fight would be at 130 I just asked if the guy had seen Floyd at that weight. So get off my dick, and why not get of Pernell's too while you are at it...

All of a sudden Whitaker is this offensive monster, give me a break, he was and will always be a defensive fighter just like Floyd. Deal with it, and stop trying to rewrite history. In how many fights did Pernell throw 1000+ punches? Because I sure seems to have missed a lot of them...

[Sinew]

Whitaker would destroy Floyd.:lol: Yeah Floyd would tear his shoulder missing shots... Rendering Mayweather
" destroyed "

[pit]

Zab or Floyd.... a hell of a choice !

if you say so..

[Executioner]

Please Whitaker got wooped by Oscar. Floyd beat on Oscar like a rented mule.
Floyd would TKO Whitaker.

what bullshit :patsch

Just like he TKO'd Judah or Sosa?.....two guys that Cotto overwhelmed.

a past-prime Whitaker at 35 years old, two-weight classes above his prime took FLUSH punches from Felix Trinidad and lasted all twelve rounds.

Floyd has not fought anyone anywhere near as powerful as Tito.

[Alo2006]

Hey folx, is just opinions. Nobody really know who would win. It's really not that serious.

[Tettsuo]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!! Will you people stop posting?! Pea would be the aggressor here, while Mayweather would be the pot-shotter. The only thing that guy got right was that Sweet Pea would win, he was way off as to how he would go about it. Pea was the more aggressive, active fighter by far, and he would be the one throwing the combos and most punches while PBF tried to pot-shot him. The problem is, pot-shotting wouldn't work against someone with such good defense and reflexes. Pea would ve the aggressor, throw way more punches, land more(especially with the jab) and make Mayweather miss more while he throws less. Pea by comfortable UD.
Asking me to stop posting does not give your viewpoint more validity.

PBF would be the bigger of the 2 men, and also the one with more pop to his punches. Sweet Pea would be a fool to be the aggressor against a bigger and just as fast fighter. Sweet Pea would be forced to fight defensively and wait for his opportunity to counter. PBF would stalk him all night and work the body in close. Sweet Pea would eventually give him openings that a fast accurate fighter like PBF would be able to capitalize on.

[Ramshall1]

the compu box operator would be given the night off.

[Imperial1]

Anyone who thinks Floyd whoops Whitikers ass is defeiantly someone who must have just started to watch boxing ..Like a month ago !

[KhanB]

Id side with Whitaker. I grew up not even liking him and not watching his fights but after i really got into the sport of boxing i appreciated his fights with Dlh and Tito. When i got tapes of him schooling Chavez and now seeing him beat Azumah Nelson, Pineda, and McGirt back when he was younger i was impressed. I dont remember why i thought Pernell didnt punch a lot. Imo he throws way better combos than Floyd who, aside from the Gatti fight, kinda stopped doing that after he left 130

[acb]

I think Pernell could teach him how to throw a combination.

I also think he could teach him how to dodge a combination whilst standing in range rather than cowering back and along the ropes.

He coud probably teach him how to land 4 or 500 punches rather than throw that many as well.

:good

:deal

Whitaker had superior competition, superior wins, superior defense, and superior offensive workrate than Floyd.

But the kiddies here in ESB who havent seen Pea fight like to think differently.

[acb]

Please Whitaker got wooped by Oscar. Floyd beat on Oscar like a rented mule.
Floyd would TKO Whitaker.

You are fast becoming the worst poster- most eager nuttlicker of Floyd on this site.

Whitaker got ¨whipped¨by Oscar. You obviously havent seen the fight. On top of that we are talking about a past prime Whitaker.

Floyd beat Oscar ¨like a rented mule¨? We went over this yesterday, he won by a single point on the scorecards. You even admitted it was a close fight, and today your back to this bullshit.

Please either:

A. Stop exagerating
B. Stop trolling
C: Stop being a dumm motherfucker.
D: Stop posting.

[errsta]

Pea is by far the more accomplished fighter, but I'm not sure he is the better of the two in a head to head match up. Either way, a very boring fight to watch.

[bronx]

wow

[EL-MATADOR]

maywaether is all time great and i think he would beat sweet pea.

He cannot :-(

[elgrancampeon]

At 135 Floyd was basically unbeatable. His punches had a LOT of pop at that weight and he was fast as hell. And Whitaker wouldn't have been the guy to beat him.

:admin:admin:admin:admin:admin

Castillo already beat him!!!

Whitaker's defense would neutralize any of Mayweathers offense.

[Biggame]

Hey folx, is just opinions. Nobody really know who would win. It's really not that serious.

Thanks for gracing us w/that Ass!!!

[Chief_Second]

there's no need for that comment! this fictitious fight would be close however mayweather deserves more respect than that

[miketysonko]

Mayweather UD, enough said.

[pit]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.


:lol: This Whitaker we are talking about , its not like he lived a clean life the man is no saint himself..

[tays001]

You all agree on Floyd beating Pernell but none has described how he would.

Come on guys. I am curious.

if you disagree so much why don't you elaborate on how he couldn't beat Pernel :good

[jyuza]

if you disagree so much why don't you elaborate on how he couldn't beat Pernel :good

I am not the one who made the argument about Floyd beating Pernell. Let's wait until someone who agree with it post something.

[Jack Presscot]

His words on ESPN.

Thoughts?Maybe PBF should pay Whitaker to clean the Toilets at his mansion. Floyd Jr. could pay him with little rocks of crack.

[Marnoff]

Mayweahter hs done a lot on paper. The big BUT is that he did so in the cheapest of cheap ways - simply by meeting the worst belt keeper at each weight generally.

On the other hand - he IS a good fighter and there are not many that currently would beat him. BUT (again) fact is that he has avoided the ones that could. Hatton, Cotto, Spinks are three that he definitely need to meet if he wants such a grand claim to fame. I believe Taylor could be lmw, smw, lhw, cw and probably even hw champ as long as he looked for and was lucky enough so that there was a really weak champion at each weight.

Floyd fucking knocked Hatton out. Where you been?

[eze]

Maybe PBF should pay Whitaker to clean the Toilets at his mansion. Floyd Jr. could pay him with little rocks of crack.

:rofl:rofl

[Marnoff]

if Judah can win 4 rounds and knock Floyd down then Whitaker who is 20 times better than Judah would give him a boxing lesson and you can bet that Whitaker wouldnt fade down the stretch.

Judah and Whitaker are very little alike. Bad comparison.

[tays001]

I am not the one who made the argument about Floyd beating Pernell. Let's wait until someone who agree with it post something.

i feel it's a toss up. really depends on what weight they fight at. and what stage they are in their careers at that time. a fight between 2 ATg usally ishard to pick unless the other atg is just at huge disadvatge. for example Hearns vs sweet pea. ... PBF and Pernel are actually quite about even in most department. but like some one else said we would never turly know.

[Marnoff]

Rogaa was damn lucky to finish the fight, I can remember he was almost getting KTFO by the "light hitter" Sweet Pea. And the knock down you refer wasn't a legit knock down, it was more a slip or something (can't recall what though I need to rewatch it).

In the case of Floyd, not so long ago, he had trouble against the faded Oscar De La Hoya and won a controversial decision when a faded Pea gave hell to a prime Oscar and lost a controversial decision.

So ? Have you, guys, any counter argument or something plausible ?

How fighters stack up against a particular common foe tells us little as to how they would stack up against each other. Lose the smoke and mirrors in your analysis, imo. Secondly, Floyd won clearly.

[Pimp C]

Maybe PBF should pay Whitaker to clean the Toilets at his mansion. Floyd Jr. could pay him with little rocks of crack.
Fucked up but funny.

[Marnoff]

uncle rog is not similar to Floyd completely diferent styles and he didnt won four rounds.

So you'll say here that Roger and Floyd are not unlike, but on the other hand are trying to suggest that Whitaker is just a better version of Judah's style, therefore he would win more than four rounds? Don't be a hypocrite.

[ryanm8655]

Floyd fucking knocked Hatton out. Where you been?

Erm check the date on that post ;)

Personally the more I think about it the more I think Floyd could win, whitaker was awesome and I think it would be a close fight, but if floyd fought smart then he could get a close decision.

[Flea Man]

Floyd fucking knocked Hatton out. Where you been?

Wasn't this thread started aaaaggggeeessss ago???

BTW, those picking Floyd are way off the mark. Sweet Pea is superior at everything.

I can't believe same people still think of Pea as a 'light hitter'. Even a quick scan at a rudimentary highlight selection will show just how brutal a finisher Pea wanted to be, especially at 130/135.

Floyd would not know what to do with Pea sticking a jab in his face all the time and moving out of the way of Floyd's offence.

Mayweather seems to have a good chin, but has barely been hit flush in his whole career.

Pea was hit late on in his career, and early on in his career; his chin always stood up. No way is Floyd even hurting Pea.

Pea fought trinidad and dlh in their PRIME. Neither could stop him. If the WW Floyd met up with Prime Tito and DLH, do you think he could've beaten them?


Don;t get me wrong, Floyd is very good, and a top 50 of all time great. But his style is to take a few rounds to figure his opponents out. Pea would already be way ahead by then, and, I'm worried to think what would happen is Pea took the fight to the inside. He isn't a fighter like Gatti or Hatton that Floyd could beat to the punch, and even with Floyd's mix, I say Pea beats him 117-110, something like that.

It wouldn't be a schooling by any means, Mayweather is far too talented for that. But Pea is better than Floyd at everything, common sense says he'd prevail.

[Marnoff]

Erm check the date on that post ;)

Personally the more I think about it the more I think Floyd could win, whitaker was awesome and I think it would be a close fight, but if floyd fought smart then he could get a close decision.

Oh, true. Didn't even realize this was an old thread when I jumped in.

[catasyou]

Pernell is right,altough it's hard to believe Mayweather can carry his bags or jockstrap

[eltorrente]

I think PBF would beat sweat pea quite handily.

[jyuza]

How fighters stack up against a particular common foe tells us little as to how they would stack up against each other. Lose the smoke and mirrors in your analysis, imo. Secondly, Floyd won clearly.

Clearly ? I had Oscar winning 115-114.

[jyuza]

i feel it's a toss up. really depends on what weight they fight at. and what stage they are in their careers at that time. a fight between 2 ATg usally ishard to pick unless the other atg is just at huge disadvatge. for example Hearns vs sweet pea. ... PBF and Pernel are actually quite about even in most department. but like some one else said we would never turly know.

Actually, I wrote that post a year ago or so. Today it is a little different, I think Floyd would give a lot of trouble to Pernell at any weight.
I still give Whitaker the edge though due to his superior defensive ability and higher workrate (Whitaker is the only one better than PBF in defense) but in a close fight.

[Danny_Rand]

Clearly ? I had Oscar winning 115-114.

Obviously you dont know how to score fights. Tell me, when Mayweather was landing at will from rounds 8-12, pot shotting Oscar to the body and the side of the head, did you not count those as landed punches? :rofl

[Marnoff]

Clearly ? I had Oscar winning 115-114.

Ya, those with an imagination are able to score it for Oscar.

[eddie721]

Floyd has not proved anything worth saying he's the best....The man does not fight. He dances and fights weak opponents.

Sweat pea would beat him in his prime....no fucken doubt.:hat

[IsaL]

At 135 Floyd was basically unbeatable. His punches had a LOT of pop at that weight and he was fast as hell. And Whitaker wouldn't have been the guy to beat him.

You never seen the first Castillo-Mayweather fight, obviously.

[catasyou]

Ya, those with an imagination are able to score it for Oscar.Actually you could give it to Oscar if you score all the close rounds to Oscar

[eddie721]

Also the part time fighter in Oscar was very close to beating this guy....Now you give me a prime Oscar vs PBF and Pretty boy is going down or at least hurt.
:bart

[eddie721]

You never seen the first Castillo-Mayweather fight, obviously.

Yeah i dont think this dude seen the fight.....Castillo aint even great he's good and he beat PBF in the first fight no doubt about it.

[Danny_Rand]

Actually you could give it to Oscar if you score all the close rounds to Oscar

There were no close rounds from round 8-12. If you decided to ignore clean punching and concentrated more on aggression, you could have scored the fight 4-3 for Oscar heading into the 8th round. But its a complete Mayweather exhibition after that.

[Danny_Rand]

Yeah i dont think this dude seen the fight.....Castillo aint even great he's good and he beat PBF in the first fight no doubt about it.

Mayweather torn rotator cuff 1st fight, healthy Mayweather second fight beats Castillo decisively.

[catasyou]

There were no close rounds from round 8-12. If you decided to ignore clean punching and concentrated more on aggression, you could have scored the fight 4-3 for Oscar heading into the 8th round. But its a complete Mayweather exhibition after that.I thought Oscar won the 12th and you could find 7 rounds to give him to win it but I thought Mayweather won

[eddie721]

Wasn't this thread started aaaaggggeeessss ago???

BTW, those picking Floyd are way off the mark. Sweet Pea is superior at everything.

I can't believe same people still think of Pea as a 'light hitter'. Even a quick scan at a rudimentary highlight selection will show just how brutal a finisher Pea wanted to be, especially at 130/135.

Floyd would not know what to do with Pea sticking a jab in his face all the time and moving out of the way of Floyd's offence.

Mayweather seems to have a good chin, but has barely been hit flush in his whole career.

Pea was hit late on in his career, and early on in his career; his chin always stood up. No way is Floyd even hurting Pea.

Pea fought trinidad and dlh in their PRIME. Neither could stop him. If the WW Floyd met up with Prime Tito and DLH, do you think he could've beaten them?


Don;t get me wrong, Floyd is very good, and a top 50 of all time great. But his style is to take a few rounds to figure his opponents out. Pea would already be way ahead by then, and, I'm worried to think what would happen is Pea took the fight to the inside. He isn't a fighter like Gatti or Hatton that Floyd could beat to the punch, and even with Floyd's mix, I say Pea beats him 117-110, something like that.

It wouldn't be a schooling by any means, Mayweather is far too talented for that. But Pea is better than Floyd at everything, common sense says he'd prevail.

Anyone who disagrees with this guy is an idiot....

[eddie721]

Mayweather torn rotator cuff 1st fight, healthy Mayweather second fight beats Castillo decisively.


Dont make excuses buddy.....a fulltime boxer in OScar or a prime Sweat pea beats him....get you boxing shit together kid....

[Danny_Rand]

I thought Oscar won the 12th and you could find 7 rounds to give him to win it but I thought Mayweather won

You thought Oscar won the 12th why? Because of the flurry with 15 seconds left? You ignore the 2 minute 45 second domination before then?

[Danny_Rand]

Dont make excuses buddy.....a fulltime boxer in OScar or a prime Sweat pea beats him....get you boxing shit together kid....

No excuse necessary. Mayweather defeated Castillo in a rematch decisively. Erasing all doubt.

Oscar would still lose to Mayweather in his prime. He's always faded down the stretch. He couldnt close out Mosley, he couldnt close out Tito. What makes you think he could close out Floyd?

Sweet Pea V mayweather is a toss up. I favor Floyd because he's my favorite fighter. But it could go either way. Love to have seen it though.

[catasyou]

You thought Oscar won the 12th why? Because of the flurry with 15 seconds left? You ignore the 2 minute 45 second domination before then?No,on the whole I gave it to him.

[Drunkenboxer]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.

Mate, please stop sugar-coating your thoughts and tell us what you really think!

[Danny_Rand]

No,on the whole I gave it to him.

Then I have to ask why? Oscar barely landed that whole round? :huh

[catasyou]

Then I have to ask why? Oscar barely landed that whole round? :huhI remember I liked him better in that round,Mayweather didn't do much in that one.

[eddie721]

No excuse necessary. Mayweather defeated Castillo in a rematch decisively. Erasing all doubt.

Oscar would still lose to Mayweather in his prime. He's always faded down the stretch. He couldnt close out Mosley, he couldnt close out Tito. What makes you think he could close out Floyd?

Sweet Pea V mayweather is a toss up. I favor Floyd because he's my favorite fighter. But it could go either way. Love to have seen it though.


Yeah i would love to see that too....but like i said he cant take on prime...oscar,mosley,tito and sweat pea....mayweather is a very good
fighter but im telling you if oscar almost beat him and this guy fights once every 15 months how the hell do you explain mayweather being able to beat him in his prime? i dont understand you reasoning....maybe you should get of mayweather nust....sweat pea would beat him and it would be very close you could say if they fight several time it would be something like 5-2
whittaker.....i seen all these dudes fight and several times each fight....

[brickfists]

Floyd could teach Pernell a thing or two in the ring. But I don't think Whitaker can teach Mayweather anything. Floyd's a more complete fighter.

how can you say that???

floyd never fought near the same compition so how do we know if he would of remained undefeated. if sweet pea cherry picked all of his oppenents then he never wouldve lost a round let alone a fight

[eddie721]

how can you say that???

floyd never fought near the same compition so how do we know if he would of remained undefeated. if sweet pea cherry picked all of his oppenents then he never wouldve lost a round let alone a fight

If floyd fought the best there was to fight or at least most of the best he could fight then he would not have a perfect record.....no fucken way....
Dont compare him to the greats.....look at his resume.....

nOT That great.....but good i would say to be top 50

[Danny_Rand]

Yeah i would love to see that too....but like i said he cant take on prime...oscar,mosley,tito and sweat pea....mayweather is a very good
fighter but im telling you if oscar almost beat him and this guy fights once every 15 months how the hell do you explain mayweather being able to beat him in his prime? i dont understand you reasoning....maybe you should get of mayweather nust....sweat pea would beat him and it would be very close you could say if they fight several time it would be something like 5-2
whittaker.....i seen all these dudes fight and several times each fight....

I dont think Oscar almost beat him. I scored it 8-4. With Mayweather sweeping the last 4-5 rounds.

Also Mayweather was fighting in his 5th weight class, Mayweather is far more mobile in the lower weight classes where theoritically this fight would have taken place.

Again, me choosing Floyd has nothing to do with Oscar's abilities. But more to do with Oscars lack of stamina throughout his entire career.

[Danny_Rand]

how can you say that???

floyd never fought near the same compition so how do we know if he would of remained undefeated. if sweet pea cherry picked all of his oppenents then he never wouldve lost a round let alone a fight

Mayweathers resume from 130-140 is easily comparable to that of Sweet Pea's. Sweet Pea just has a few more bigger names then Floyd. If Floyd fought Cotto and maybe Margarito, I'd say their resume's would be near even. In reality, while Floyds competition has been somewhat sparce, if you consider beating a current P4P top 10 fighter and winning a belt in his 5th weight class sparce, his resume from 130-135 is impeccable. If you take the whole body of work, its not fair to say Mayweather cherry picked, its what is happening with Margarito now, when fighters reach the top, legacy isnt as important anymore as security.

[jyuza]

Mate, please stop sugar-coating your thoughts and tell us what you really think!

I don't really remember what I had in mind back in the day but I can imagine I was kinda pissed at Floyd for some reason :good

[CarlesX7]

After this one, I think another "Whitaker vs Mayweather Jr.: Who wins?" thread will pop up.

It is something like a tradition on ESB.

[chimba]

Floyd is lucky to be carrying Peas bags. I cant stand Whittaker but damn no way Floyd beats him. Floyd biggest win is a past prime DLH, a past prime Pea got robbed against DLH

[chimba]

After this one, I think another "Whitaker vs Mayweather Jr.: Who wins?" thread will pop up.

It is something like a tradition on ESB.

No need for a poll...it will be one sided

[Mind Reader]

I thought a past prime Whitaker beat a prime Oscar more clearly than a prime Mayweather did against a past prime Oscar.

[Mind Reader]

I would say Oscar has the most controversial career of anybody... Most of his big wins and losses can be argued save Hopkins, but if Oscar beat everybody he fought I would say he is a sure top 3 p4p all time great.

[CarlesX7]

No need for a poll...it will be one sided
I know, but we have a poll like this every 2 weeks or so. :D

The poll may be one sided, but personally I wouldn't write Mayweather off like many others do if he faced Whitaker.

[pauliemayweathe]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.

wow u know him??? sweet pea is far from the king of all morals..we all have our faults...if they are SOOO dumb why did PBF make 47 million in a year...maybe Pea can carry his bags...make a fw bucks

[pauliemayweathe]

I would say Oscar has the most controversial career of anybody... Most of his big wins and losses can be argued save Hopkins, but if Oscar beat everybody he fought I would say he is a sure top 3 p4p all time great.

but he didn't? he has fought tough but faded in many a fight

[chimba]

I know, but we have a poll like this every 2 weeks or so. :D

The poll may be one sided, but personally I wouldn't write Mayweather off like many others do if he faced Whitaker.

Look Im not the one to say that it will be some kind of a domination...these two have similarities...Its always going to be close if they fight but with Pernell edgeing it out 8/10. Why? HE does everything that Floyd does a bit better...cept power which would not matter in this fight.

Defense, Workrate, Jab..edge to Pea... thats pretty much it

[CarlesX7]

Look Im not the one to say that it will be some kind of a domination...these two have similarities...Its always going to be close if they fight but with Pernell edgeing it out 8/10. Why? HE does everything that Floyd does a bit better...cept power which would not matter in this fight.

Defense, Workrate, Jab..edge to Pea... thats pretty much it
Mayweather also has excellent defense... But I would also favour Whitaker in that fight. Not heavily though.

[BUDW]

At 135 Floyd was basically unbeatable. His punches had a LOT of pop at that weight and he was fast as hell. And Whitaker wouldn't have been the guy to beat him.

To bad Duran wasnt in his prime at the same time as Floyd at 135,Roberto would kick his ass at 135.

[eddie721]

I would say Oscar has the most controversial career of anybody... Most of his big wins and losses can be argued save Hopkins, but if Oscar beat everybody he fought I would say he is a sure top 3 p4p all time great.

Very true....plus the man comes to fight not dance.....ill give you that mayweather is great....not as great as sweat pea. And better than a past
prime OLDH

[chimba]

Mayweather also has excellent defense... But I would also favour Whitaker in that fight. Not heavily though.

Ohh I know, close but clear.. Pea is just out of this planet defensively, Floyds been hit flush a few times, hes got a good chin, I give him credit. But he wont touch Pea.

[CarlesX7]

Ohh I know, close but clear.. Pea is just out of this planet defensively, Floyds been hit flush a few times, hes got a good chin, I give him credit. But he wont touch Pea.
Ah, too bad we'll never see a fight like that. Maybe some people don't find a fight between two defensive masters intriguing, but if we're talking about fighters of this kind of caliber, I'd definitely pay to watch them fight.

[chimba]

Ah, too bad we'll never see a fight like that. Maybe some people don't find a fight between two defensive masters intriguing, but if we're talking about fighters of this kind of caliber, I'd definitely pay to watch them fight.

Picture Hagler/Hearns but over 12 rounds:lol:

[Toopretty]

I was watching ODH/Quartey fight on on-demand. Floyd beats ODH in his prime. ODH has nothing coming but a 5% chance to land that left hook. Stop this bullshit Prime ODH this and that bullshit.

[JM22]

I was watching ODH/Quartey fight on on-demand. Floyd beats ODH in his prime. ODH has nothing coming but a 5% chance to land that left hook. Stop this bullshit Prime ODH this and that bullshit.Floyd beat a old past his prime DLH by SD!!! No way he beat's a prime Oscar and i hate DLH:yep

[FromWithin]

Another Whitaker-Mayweather thread

Some people, like shelterr, seem to know boxing as much as my red fish knows quantum physics. Before saying any stupidity, rewatch the tapes and support your fuckin argument.

Thank you,

[Bad_Intentions]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.

30 years old and still acts like a teen. :-(

[pauliemayweathe]

I am not the one who made the argument about Floyd beating Pernell. Let's wait until someone who agree with it post something.

it would be a defensive masterpiece...floyd is just a bit better of a total package offensively

[elchivito]

why are people always underrating uncle roger as a fighter? he had a deadly right hand that would give anyone fits and change the fight with one punch. yes he had a war with sweet pea and he would of given a war to floyd also. sweet pea in his prime as defensive as he was was dropped and always bounced back and won. he easily equalled floyd in speed and reflexes and when the pea wanted to pop he could pop when he wanted as noticed in the mayweather and hurtado fights. he was also a southpaw so i also can easily see him dropping floyd the same way he dropped oscar and similiar to how zab dropped floyd. floyd's great for his size, but enough with the hype the world, except floyd's fanboys knew he needed to fight pw, margo, or cotto to be an atg. pea fought and beat a prime chavez, a dominant atg and p4p#1 of his time. floyd won't even fight top 5 p4p margo. sweet pea > floyd. end of story.

[Grinder]

PBF has dodged the best. Sweet Pea fought the best.

PBF is an accurate puncher but Sweet Pea is a defensive mastermind.

Sweet Pea is very durable, PBF's chin is fairly untested due to his defensive skills and opponent selection.

I doubt there would be a KO, but if it happens it would be Sweet PEA KOing PBF.

Consider the JCC vs Sweet Pea fight, pure unadulterated highway robbery.

IMO/
It would be close, but I suspect we would all see how great Sweet Pea really was when he dismantles PBF over 12 rounds. The decision may not go his way, given boxing politics, but the afficianados would know that Sweet Pea had PBF's measure.

[Bill Butcher]

Ive always backed Whitaker to beat Mayweather but the more I think about it, this would be a very close fight, could go either way.

Both have always found a way & can adapt brilliantly to pull away from very good fighters.

Mayweather has more speed & power... Pea throws his combinations more frequently to greater affect, both have great feet & stamina & we need not talk about defence, both were masters.

This would be one for the purests but one I would pay A LOT to see.... this would be the modern day SRL/Benitez except more exciting.


I know Im likely to be in the minority here but Id like to see the 147 lb versions go at it just as much as the 135 lb versions... as long as its the Pea of the Chavez or Mcgirt rematch vs the Floyd of the Judah or Hatton fights.

This would be a toss up between 2 of the best pure boxers in history IMO.


Botswana :smoke

[soxfan57]

To piss Whitaker off like he did, Floyd must be the bastard we all know.

Behind Floyd's skills, there is a 30 year old child, immature, dumb as fuc*, a complete fool who doesn't show respect where he should, a egoist bastard who doesn't care about no one but himself, surrounded by the dumbest team I ever seen which goal is to make the most money... I can go on.

He has daddy issues. But when he doesn't have the facade up he seems like a good guy.

[Marnoff]

Actually you could give it to Oscar if you score all the close rounds to Oscar

Sure, if you have an imagination, and an active one at that.

[Marnoff]

PBF has dodged the best. Sweet Pea fought the best.

PBF is an accurate puncher but Sweet Pea is a defensive mastermind.

Sweet Pea is very durable, PBF's chin is fairly untested due to his defensive skills and opponent selection.

I doubt there would be a KO, but if it happens it would be Sweet PEA KOing PBF.

Consider the JCC vs Sweet Pea fight, pure unadulterated highway robbery.

IMO/
It would be close, but I suspect we would all see how great Sweet Pea really was when he dismantles PBF over 12 rounds. The decision may not go his way, given boxing politics, but the afficianados would know that Sweet Pea had PBF's measure.

Whitaker knocks out Floyd...? Can disregard the rest of your post, thanks.

[Marnoff]

Ive always backed Whitaker to beat Mayweather but the more I think about it, this would be a very close fight, could go either way.

Both have always found a way & can adapt brilliantly to pull away from very good fighters.

Mayweather has more speed & power... Pea throws his combinations more frequently to greater affect, both have great feet & stamina & we need not talk about defence, both were masters.

This would be one for the purests but one I would pay A LOT to see.... this would be the modern day SRL/Benitez except more exciting.


I know Im likely to be in the minority here but Id like to see the 147 lb versions go at it just as much as the 135 lb versions... as long as its the Pea of the Chavez or Mcgirt rematch vs the Floyd of the Judah or Hatton fights.

This would be a toss up between 2 of the best pure boxers in history IMO.


Botswana :smoke

Solid post.

[heart]

i'm sorry but no way mayweather beats sweet pea. think about sweet pea's jab, his workrate, and his defense. Sweet Pea is the perfect boxer puncher to fuck over mayweather....southpaw style. Whitaker, ud.

[heart]

Money May would teach Whitaker the true meaning of the "sweet science". Whitaker couldn't carry Money's money bag. For Christ sakes, he was outboxed by De La Hoya. A guy Money easily handled at a much higher weight. Coke head Whitaker needs to show some damn respect to an all time great.


lol are you gonna cry?

[Dostoevsky]

So is Pernell. Can you elaborate about "Floyd would beat Pea" please ?

PBF actually had an offence.

[catasyou]

Sure, if you have an imagination, and an active one at that.No,just if you score the fight close to Oscar

[Marnoff]

No,just if you score the fight close to Oscar

No, if you have an imagination and count missed punches as scoring blows.

[LoveMuffin]

You watch the tapes of Sweet Pea at work. Very very rarely you see him get tagged with more then a single punch in any flurry. His defense was second to none.

I seen PBF get tagged a hell of a lot more.

DLH would have won if he kept jabbing down the stretch but we all saw what happened there.

Sweet Pea's jab was a killer. Sweet Pea jabs PBF's ass all night to a UD.

Then lets him carry his bag with the dirty jock straps and kilo of coke to the after fight party!

[stonerose]

can anyone fill me in on why there's bad blood between them ?

[sweet_scientist]

PBF would lose this fight.

His key strengths are his speed and reflexes, but other than that I think he is very predictable as a fighter. An old ass DLH saw nearly all his punches coming, and partially blocked more than the majority of them. I think Whitaker will do the same. He is not Zab Judah folks, nor is he Ricky Hatton.

Anyone thinking Floyd will be able to consistently reach Whitaker with his pot-shotting punches or prosaic efforts of combination punching is dreaming.

Whitaker will see just about every punch coming and will most likely only get hit when he himself is in the process of letting his hands go.

Whitaker will stick the jab, get on the inside, work the body and head over, step outside, re-set, and do it all over again.

The decision will be something between 9-3 and 7-5, depending on how you view some close rounds.

[sweet_scientist]

You watch the tapes of Sweet Pea at work. Very very rarely you see him get tagged with more then a single punch in any flurry. His defense was second to none.

I seen PBF get tagged a hell of a lot more.

DLH would have won if he kept jabbing down the stretch but we all saw what happened there.

Sweet Pea's jab was a killer. Sweet Pea jabs PBF's ass all night to a UD.

Then lets him carry his bag with the dirty jock straps and kilo of coke to the after fight party!

:yep

[jyuza]

PBF actually had an offence.

Well, throwing over a hundred punches per round ain't much of an offense....

I am quite sure if we had the punchstats of both fighters, Pernell would be winning easily everywhere (jabs, power punches...)

[Govanmauler]

I am sorry, but lately I grew up a certain anger toward Mayweather(s)
:-(

Mayweather is a cock no question , the best fighter of my generation but he's still an arsehole.

Same with his Dad , a brillaint trainer and knows boxing inside out.........still a dick

[jyuza]

Obviously you dont know how to score fights. Tell me, when Mayweather was landing at will from rounds 8-12, pot shotting Oscar to the body and the side of the head, did you not count those as landed punches? :rofl

How did you scored that fight ?

[THE BLADE]

maywaether is all time great and i think he would beat sweet pea.

HAHAHA....

[Flea Man]

PBF would lose this fight.

His key strengths are his speed and reflexes, but other than that I think he is very predictable as a fighter. An old ass DLH saw nearly all his punches coming, and partially blocked more than the majority of them. I think Whitaker will do the same. He is not Zab Judah folks, nor is he Ricky Hatton.

Anyone thinking Floyd will be able to consistently reach Whitaker with his pot-shotting punches or prosaic efforts of combination punching is dreaming.

Whitaker will see just about every punch coming and will most likely only get hit when he himself is in the process of letting his hands go.

Whitaker will stick the jab, get on the inside, work the body and head over, step outside, re-set, and do it all over again.

The decision will be something between 9-3 and 7-5, depending on how you view some close rounds.

Seeing how badly busted up Floyd can get when he does get tagged more frequently (i.e the Burton fight, the only time I can remember Floyd bleeding; nose if I remember correctly) I'm not certain that Sweet Pea couldn't force a stoppage. He was a barbaric finisher at LW.

BTW, great analysis.

[Toopretty]

Floyd beat a old past his prime DLH by SD!!! No way he beat's a prime Oscar and i hate DLH:yep
Floyd took it easy on that scrub ass ODH. That same Mayweather beats ODH in his prime. He did all the same shit and had worse defense.

[Toopretty]

You watch the tapes of Sweet Pea at work. Very very rarely you see him get tagged with more then a single punch in any flurry. His defense was second to none.

I seen PBF get tagged a hell of a lot more.

DLH would have won if he kept jabbing down the stretch but we all saw what happened there.

Sweet Pea's jab was a killer. Sweet Pea jabs PBF's ass all night to a UD.

Then lets him carry his bag with the dirty jock straps and kilo of coke to the after fight party!

Prove it. :rofl Now that is the biggest load of bullshit. If anything, Floyd has had less punches especially clean ones land than any fighter I have seen other than RJJ in his prime.

[CLUBBER]

Whitaker on PBF: 'Maybe I'd let him carry my bags to the dressing room' :rofl:happy:happy TRUE

[catasyou]

No, if you have an imagination and count missed punches as scoring blows. Blind nuthugger,that's what you are

[dave82]

Money May would teach Whitaker the true meaning of the "sweet science". Whitaker couldn't carry Money's money bag. For Christ sakes, he was outboxed by De La Hoya. A guy Money easily handled at a much higher weight. Coke head Whitaker needs to show some damn respect to an all time great.

You type pretty well for guy who has Mayweathers cum between his fingers! Fuck off!

[SAS2]

hilarious. Sweet Pea was far better than the 'mad ducker' pbf

[TRUEBELIEVER 66]

Both of these assholes talk to much shit for their own good and would stink out any joint in the country like rotten tuna, their both boring as hell fighters and just let them meet in a street fight Pea would knock his ass out especially if he's coked up..

[Marnoff]

Blind nuthugger,that's what you are

First time I've ever been called a "nuthugger" of any fighter. Definitely am not... De La Hoya simply lost the fight.

[Marnoff]

Seeing how badly busted up Floyd can get when he does get tagged more frequently (i.e the Burton fight, the only time I can remember Floyd bleeding; nose if I remember correctly) I'm not certain that Sweet Pea couldn't force a stoppage. He was a barbaric finisher at LW.

BTW, great analysis.

I really can't see a stoppage either way in this one. Both have shown that they have sturdy chins and solid defense.

[Sweet Pea]

Neither fighter has any chance at stopping the other. Let's rule that one out right now.

[CarlesX7]

Money May would teach Whitaker the true meaning of the "sweet science". Whitaker couldn't carry Money's money bag. For Christ sakes, he was outboxed by De La Hoya. A guy Money easily handled at a much higher weight. Coke head Whitaker needs to show some damn respect to an all time great.
We have to thank ESB's resident troll for this pearl of wisdom.


:verysad

[Toopretty]

I think it depends on who would be the aggressor. Pea is better at scoring b/c of his high output. Floyd throws more/better power shots. If Pea comes forward Floyd would have a real good chance at winning. If Floyd has to come forward he will lose. All and all I think Pea would out point him in a close fight.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

2 all time great champions. This fight would go the distance. Excellent technical battle. Personally I would pick PBF but it would be tight.

[HauntingTheHoly]

What's the big deal?

I'd let PBF carry my bags, also. I'd let <i>anyone</i> carry my bags. Who the hell would rather carry their own bags???

[Sonny Carson]

Whitaker Vs Mayweather is a toss up but I think Whitaker sounds a little jealous here.

[MAG1965]

you guys commenting that Mayweather would beat Whitaker are probably younger and do not remember Whitaker. Mayweather has speed, but Whitaker was better defensively. Whitaker wins a decision.

[Drew101]

Neither fighter has any chance at stopping the other. Let's rule that one out right now.

That's something I think all reasonable fans could agree upon.

[El Borracho]

Whitaker running his mouth again, nothing new here. He and Floyd are a lot alike, except PBF is undefeated.

[El Borracho]

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you guys commenting that Mayweather would beat Whitaker are probably younger and do not remember Whitaker. Mayweather has speed, but Whitaker was better defensively. Whitaker wins a decision.

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