Peter Should Be Banned From Boxing Until

[Farmboxer]

he quits using his extremely illegal blows behind the head. It is not even legal in sparring, yet he appears to be practicing this punch in sparring. Peter's best punch is the most illegal and dangerous punch in boxing. Terry Norris must be very angry about this double standard in favor of Peter. There are rules in boxing for a very important reason, yet Peter ignores the rules, keeps getting away without even a point deduction. This is not fair to all other boxers who have to go by the rules. Read the boxing rules and you will see, yes, until Peter agrees to go by the rules, he should be banned from boxing!

Always remember, Terry Norris lost his title because of landing the same punch as Peter used in all his fights.

[bmf95b]

Caiz Sr took points from Peter for EAR CLAPPING James Tony..

[Farmboxer]

Are you sure? I don't remember this, if true, then thanks for bringing this up.

[Amsterdam]

Are you sure? I don't remember this, if true, then thanks for bringing this up.

Toney was leaning on Peter and driving his head into Peter's shoulder while he was exhausted late and Peter in response hit him with both gloves at the same time on the sides of Toney's head.

[Farmboxer]

Oh yes, I remember now. That punch is designed to burst the opponent's ear drums, something I would expect Peter to do. He is an extremely dirty fighter and Don King makes it possible for him to get away with it.

[1lehudson]

Hmm I wonder if Kicking should get one banned??:huh

[Suge Green]

Toney was leaning on Peter and driving his head into Peter's shoulder while he was exhausted late and Peter in response hit him with both gloves at the same time on the sides of Toney's head.

What up...???

...I thought it was more like the sternum or solar plexus.

[H .]

Toney was leaning on Peter and driving his head into Peter's shoulder while he was exhausted late and Peter in response hit him with both gloves at the same time on the sides of Toney's head.

That wasn't vey nice :verysad

[I_Neutral]

Yea i remember that...it was funny.

Damn peter is such a horrible boxer. i can't wait until someone (klitscho) knocks him the hell out.

[Farmboxer]

I think Vitali will knock Peter out, but Don King does not what this fight.

[Dynamite Kid]

Yea i remember that...it was funny.

Damn peter is such a horrible boxer. i can't wait until someone (klitscho) knocks him the hell out.


I totally agree. I didn't agree with the first decision win against Toney, I thought James was robbed, and I think ALL of his post fight interviews are really horrible. He sounds like such an idiot. He doesn't even make any sense. His post fight interviews go with his style of Boxing, he's horrible:patsch I'd like to see him and John Ruiz kicked out of Boxing.

[Farmboxer]

Get the title back for Terry Norris please, as he would appreciate it.

OK the rules should be suspended for all the other boxers. Vitali should be allowed to use his kicks as well as his punches! Agreed?

[barneyrub]

he quits using his extremely illegal blows behind the head. It is not even legal in sparring, yet he appears to be practicing this punch in sparring. Peter's best punch is the most illegal and dangerous punch in boxing. Terry Norris must be very angry about this double standard in favor of Peter. There are rules in boxing for a very important reason, yet Peter ignores the rules, keeps getting away without even a point deduction. This is not fair to all other boxers who have to go by the rules. Read the boxing rules and you will see, yes, until Peter agrees to go by the rules, he should be banned from boxing!

Always remember, Terry Norris lost his title because of landing the same punch as Peter used in all his fights.as should wlad until he quits his clamping onto opponents arms and leaning on their backs as he did in the peter fight and attempts in every fight, something he clearly trains to do.

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[Ambition_Def]

as should wlad until he quits his clamping onto opponents arms and leaning on their backs as he did in the peter fight and attempts in every fight, something he clearly trains to do.

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Owned, as usual! :thumbsup

[Farmboxer]

Any clinching Vlad has done within the past is legal and a part of boxing, the illegal crap that Peter does is well, extremely illegal. Ask Terry Norris.

[Ambition_Def]

Any clinching Vlad has done within the past is legal and a part of boxing, the illegal crap that Peter does is well, extremely illegal. Ask Terry Norris.

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT

Get it through your head Farmpumper. I have told you this at least a dozen times now. IT ISN'T LEGAL.

[Dynamite Kid]

I am so sick of people trashing Peter. Does he act like an idoit in the interviews.....Yes. Is he not that good of a boxer?...yes. But he at least he is good enough to put the undisputed champ on his ass when he is as green as can be, and still has enough confidence in his self to beat wlad. And as big as a fan as I am am of klitschko......I still think he might be able to pull off that unexpected knock out. Rachman did it aginst one of the best of the Heavyweight champs of all time and Peter just Tko'd the guy who owned the rock twice and put up and good fight with Wlad when he was as green as all hell, stop looking for any exceuse you can to make Peter sound like a joke.


True that you mentioned Peter put Wlad on his ass, but that was a Wlad that was still getting his confidence back from that KO loss to Brewster. I don't think he can do that to Wlad now. Peter is a joke. He only is where he is because the heavyweight division is so poor. Stick Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Douglas, and Foreman, hell even Morrison in a time machine and Peter wouldn't be in the picture right now:nono

[Napoleon]

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT

Get it through your head Farmpumper. I have told you this at least a dozen times now. IT ISN'T LEGAL.

Theres a pretty big difference between leaning on a guy for 2 seconds and punching him in the back of the head.

[Ambition_Def]

Theres a pretty big difference between leaning on a guy for 2 seconds and punching him in the back of the head.

Leaning on a guy, locking up his left hook and turning away from his right hand.

All wrong doings by Waldo. The man is not a saint. Get it straight.

[jisi]

Leaning on a guy, locking up his left hook and turning away from his right hand.

All wrong doings by Waldo. The man is not a saint. Get it straight.

Right the sport is professional boxing. Wlad did the right thing against Peter, he outboxes him and did not talk during the fight to the ref.

I hope the two boxer will fight again. Peter is the real WBC Champion and Wlad WBO/IBF/IBO.

He unification fight between those boxers where great for boxing.

[Scar]

It's not intentional. If you watch properly it's Maskaev that came close with his head down every time Peter got to land something and it hits him behind the head. He clearly saw the tactic Wladimir used and was applying, just like Toney did. Whenever Peter gets in a position where he could land they would kneel on him head down and his punch will hit there eventually. I must admit that he DID hit Wladimir there intentionally at times simply because Wladimir was cheating from the start with all the holding, kneeling, pushing..etc, whenever Peter was in a position to land something Wladimir would turn his back sometimes as well so Peter would nail him there anyway and I didn't blame him at all.

[NBT]

If we're talking about properly enforcing the rules in the Wlad - Peter fight... sure it would be reasonably to dock a point or two from Wlad, he did hold a lot in that fight, no doubt. But in the end it wouldn't matter because Peter would have been long disqualified. His fouls were much more severe, there can't be any arguement about that. Holding doesn't do any harm to your health, rabbit punches do. The fight was a really bad referee job. Not only did the ref allow all kinds of fouls but he actually _rewarded_ Peter's fouls by scoring knockdowns caused by rabbit punches.

[Decker]

I am so sick of people trashing Peter. Does he act like an idoit in the interviews.....Yes. Is he not that good of a boxer?...yes. But he at least he is good enough to put the undisputed champ on his ass when he is as green as can be, :huh C'mon Deluded, you make it seem like SP had less than 10 pro fights when he faught Wlad.

and still has enough confidence in his self to beat wlad. And as big as a fan as I am am of klitschko......I still think he might be able to pull off that unexpected knock out. Sure he could - I've never 'hated' SP, just think he's overrated after failing to stop JT and going life & death with McCline.
Rachman did it aginst one of the best of the Heavyweight champs of all time and Peter just Tko'd the guy who owned the rock twice and put up and good fight with Wlad when he was as green as all hell, stop looking for any exceuse you can to make Peter sound like a joke. Rahman lucked out and caught LL coming off the ropes. Look what happened in the return - LL blasted out HR. Oleg was past it - I thought SP would win.

[Decker]

Leaning on a guy, locking up his left hook and turning away from his right hand. :|

All wrong doings by Waldo. The man is not a saint. Get it straight. All wrong things done by Ali, Marciano, etc. They were not 'saints' either :yep Got it? Straight or otherwise?
You can keep applying the double standard to Wlad all you want. What do you want Wlad to do - fight to lose? :think Yes, that's what you want !

[barneyrub]

Theres a pretty big difference between leaning on a guy for 2 seconds and punching him in the back of the head.Leaning down on a guys kneck is not legal, WLAD LUNGES IN TO HOLD, he clamps his right arm around the opponents left and wrapps his left around their kneck leaning down on their kneck and back and squeezes tightly, heck look at the 12th round when he hurt Peter with the left hook, he immediatly lunged in and leant down on his back rather than to throw another punch, the ref in that fight was so ridiculous letting Wlad get away with all that, as seen below,

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[barneyrub]

If we're talking about properly enforcing the rules in the Wlad - Peter fight... sure it would be reasonably to dock a point or two from Wlad, he did hold a lot in that fight, no doubt. But in the end it wouldn't matter because Peter would have been long disqualified. His fouls were much more severe, there can't be any arguement about that. Holding doesn't do any harm to your health, rabbit punches do. The fight was a really bad referee job. Not only did the ref allow all kinds of fouls but he actually _rewarded_ Peter's fouls by scoring knockdowns caused by rabbit punches.Wlad coud be dq`d for turning his back to the opponent several times also!

[RUSKULL]

If we're talking about properly enforcing the rules in the Wlad - Peter fight... sure it would be reasonably to dock a point or two from Wlad, he did hold a lot in that fight, no doubt. But in the end it wouldn't matter because Peter would have been long disqualified. His fouls were much more severe, there can't be any arguement about that. Holding doesn't do any harm to your health, rabbit punches do. The fight was a really bad referee job. Not only did the ref allow all kinds of fouls but he actually _rewarded_ Peter's fouls by scoring knockdowns caused by rabbit punches.

That's exactly the way I saw it.

[Primenal]

I agree with Steward when he says that he thinks it's the way Peter punches wildly....BUT this isn't toughman! Your a pro! If the way you punch, it comes around and hits somebody in the back of the head (intentional, or unintentional) then you should be forced to learn the proper way to box, and then be allowed back!
Never see a karate guy get there in throw kicks do you? Then Manny will be like *well, he was trained to use his feet so it's a hard habit to break*. While the ref warns him over and over. And no...Peter didn't use any rabbit punching the last flurry, but he rabbit punched so many times that I don't see how it wouldn't have effected Oleg before the last flurry. That is the first time I saw Peter actually fight, and hopfully after a good fighter knocks the shit out of him (hopfully next fight) it'll be the last time I see him fight.

[lion]

If we're talking about properly enforcing the rules in the Wlad - Peter fight... sure it would be reasonably to dock a point or two from Wlad, he did hold a lot in that fight, no doubt. But in the end it wouldn't matter because Peter would have been long disqualified. His fouls were much more severe, there can't be any arguement about that. Holding doesn't do any harm to your health, rabbit punches do. The fight was a really bad referee job. Not only did the ref allow all kinds of fouls but he actually _rewarded_ Peter's fouls by scoring knockdowns caused by rabbit punches.wlad the octopussy should have gotten DQ in that fight.. sam should hit him on the nuts everytime wlad hugs him. wlad is a pussy and he will never survive sam next time..

[Heavyrighthand]

Caiz Sr took points from Peter for EAR CLAPPING James Tony..

I was gonna mention that.

That was hilarious to see. Both ears, smacked at the same time......:lol:

Peter is rather unconcerned with his illegal blows, yes. Cause he just keep doing it.

[Mindspring]

wlad the octopussy should have gotten DQ in that fight.. sam should hit him on the nuts everytime wlad hugs him. wlad is a pussy and he will never survive sam next time..

Can we just crown him heavyweight champion of the world and make you happy. :deal
Man, you seem miserable.
You got kids?

[maracho]

Sam Peter is great for boxing

[drvooh]

Hmm I wonder if Kicking should get one banned??:huh If he kicks to he family jewels...that would KO anyone:lol::lol:

[Tunney5]

he quits using his extremely illegal blows behind the head. It is not even legal in sparring, yet he appears to be practicing this punch in sparring. Peter's best punch is the most illegal and dangerous punch in boxing. Terry Norris must be very angry about this double standard in favor of Peter. There are rules in boxing for a very important reason, yet Peter ignores the rules, keeps getting away without even a point deduction. This is not fair to all other boxers who have to go by the rules. Read the boxing rules and you will see, yes, until Peter agrees to go by the rules, he should be banned from boxing!

You're absolutely right about this.

Sooner or later, someone is going to suffer serious brain damage as a result of Peter's hitting the back of opponents' heads. :-(

It needs to be stopped! Lets not forget what happened to Gerald McLellan - do we really want another boxer to end up disabled like that? Rabbit punching is the most serious boxing foul. :(

[Ambition_Def]

:|

Ironic this coming from the Klit-Ites who cry every day on this board about their saint getting fouled. Fucking twats.

All wrong things done by Ali, Marciano, etc. They were not 'saints' either :yep Got it? Straight or otherwise?
You can keep applying the double standard to Wlad all you want. What do you want Wlad to do - fight to lose? :think Yes, that's what you want !

Marciano didn't hold like Waldo. Fucking lies. 96 times over the course of 12 rounds Waldo leaned in, locked Sam's left hook and leaned over his neck. Everytime. Use that peabrain of yours and figure out what he is trying to do. A simple turn of his head at that point and all Sam can hit is the back of his head.

And why is it you dirtbags always have to bring Ali into this? Ali wasn't a 6'6" 240lb man who happens to be in his prime. Got it? I don't agree that Ali should have gotten away with all the dirty tactics he used on Fraizer either. As far as I'm concerned Fraizer was the superior fighter. Happy?

[Ambition_Def]

wlad the octopussy should have gotten DQ in that fight.. sam should hit him on the nuts everytime wlad hugs him. wlad is a pussy and he will never survive sam next time..

What NBT doesn't realise is that Waldo was properly warned before. Against Lamon Brewster. And look at the result. He fell apart.

Waldo is not a strong boxer upstairs. He can't handle the heat. He got away with that holding shit once but you can bet it won't be twice. Don King will make sure of that.

Like or not, that lax officiating Randy Newman offered, the exact same officiating that you Klit-ites seem to despise, was the only reason Waldo survived that fight. The only reason. A more strict ref will disallow the holding and the limited giant with a fragile psyche will fall apart. He unified and good for him, but he's on borrowed time. If Povetkin doesn't get it done Sam Peter surely will.

[Mindspring]

What NBT doesn't realise is that Waldo was properly warned before. Against Lamon Brewster. And look at the result. He fell apart.

Waldo is not a strong boxer upstairs. He can't handle the heat. He got away with that holding shit once but you can bet it won't be twice. Don King will make sure of that.

Like or not, that lax officiating Randy Newman offered, the exact same officiating that you Klit-ites seem to despise, was the only reason Waldo survived that fight. The only reason. A more strict ref will disallow the holding and the limited giant with a fragile psyche will fall apart. He unified and good for him, but he's on borrowed time. If Povetkin doesn't get it done Sam Peter surely will.

Excuse me, who's the one that quit on his stool?!Broooooooooowster!
Anyway, bring on the rematch!:deal But Pete can't rabbit punch either.
Peter needs to have another fight first. Valuev would out-work Pete, but King will stay away from that one.

[Ambition_Def]

Excuse me, who's the one that quit on his stool?!Broooooooooowster!
Anyway, bring on the rematch!:deal But Pete can't rabbit punch either.
Peter needs to have another fight first. Valuev would out-work Pete, but King will stay away from that one.

Yet another dumb reply. I don't give a shit about Valuev. Brewster rematch was a ridiculous farce of a fight where the guy was just coming off a huge setback and a detached retina. Both meaningless examples.

When Brewster pressed in the first fight he wore Waldo down barely hitting him. Povetkin will do much worse if he is allowed to work inside rather than getting molested. Sam Peter will do the same.

[Mindspring]

Yet another dumb reply. I don't give a shit about Valuev. Brewster rematch was a ridiculous farce of a fight where the guy was just coming off a huge setback and a detached retina. Both meaningless examples.

When Brewster pressed in the first fight he wore Waldo down barely hitting him. Povetkin will do much worse if he is allowed to work inside rather than getting molested. Sam Peter will do the same.

Maskaev was in top form too, right?
Convenient excuse.

[NBT]

A more strict ref will disallow the holding and the limited giant with a fragile psyche will fall apart.
A more strict ref will disallow Peters _only_ effective weapon against Wlad, his rabbit punch. How is is Peter supposed to beat anyone if he doesn't have the tools?

[Tunney5]

A more strict ref will disallow Peters _only_ effective weapon against Wlad, his rabbit punch. How is is Peter supposed to beat anyone if he doesn't have the tools?

:yep Peter relies on his rabbit punches because of his limitations as a boxer.

[Ambition_Def]

A more strict ref will disallow Peters _only_ effective weapon against Wlad, his rabbit punch. How is is Peter supposed to beat anyone if he doesn't have the tools?

You don't read too well do you?

I'm not going to go over it again. You guys are super thick skulled.

[Ambition_Def]

Maskaev was in top form too, right?
Convenient excuse.

Why are you bringing up irrelevant names into this argument? Maskaev isn't important here. We are talking about Waldo's dirty tactics which directly led to the dirty tactics of Sam Peter.

Focus on the argument at hand instead of runnin off.

[NBT]

You don't read too well do you?

I'm not going to go over it again. You guys are super thick skulled.
Well the argument "his fragile psyche will fall apart if he isn't allowed to hold" doesn't sound too convincing to me. Peter is exposed now and people know what to do to beat him, that's a whole different situation when he fought Wlad and was an unknown quantity.

[Punisher33]

I will take Steward's opinion on Peter over the delusional Wlad nuthugger Farmboxer, just like Manny said during the Peter/Maskaev fight, thats how Peter punches, I never thought the punches he threw against Wladimir were illegal. He even went on to say that Peter is a good fighter, with more power than Wlad.

[EpsilonAxis]

Peter does rabbit punch a lot but his opponents also bend down a lot.

[Ambition_Def]

Well the argument "his fragile psyche will fall apart if he isn't allowed to hold" doesn't sound too convincing to me. Peter is exposed now and people know what to do to beat him, that's a whole different situation when he fought Wlad and was an unknown quantity.

7:13 in Robert Byrd warns Waldo to stop holding.
Then warns him again soon after about leaning.

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Opening moments Byrd warns Waldo to stop leaning on him. Fourth time Waldo has drawn a warning for something illegal. Only 3rd round. 35 seconds to go in round 3 Byrd leans in and warns Waldo again. Is constantly warning him about leaning and holding. Waldo being limited on his holding looks exhausted.

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Round 4 Byrd immediately warns him for pushing again. Waldo then expends himself trying to end the fight in that round. Notice he was already exhausted early.

Byrd warns Waldo again in the 5th, this time to keep his punches up. Now Waldo is extremely exhausted. Brewster turns it up and stops him.


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Pretty clear to anyone who has seen this fight by now that Waldo couldn't handle the pressure when restricted on his fouls. Punched himself out trying to end the fight without having to go the distance. Brewster barely hit him with any punches and stopped him. And Brewster is not an elite fighter.

Had Robert Byrd reffed Klitschko-Peter, Sam would have won that fight. I have no doubts about it.

[Rico Spadafora]

Peter is going to get beat to a pulp by Vitali Klitschko. He is a flat footed stationary target and will eat punch after punch until he can't take anymore.

[Sakura]

Leaning on a guy, locking up his left hook and turning away from his right hand.

All wrong doings by Waldo. The man is not a saint. Get it straight.

Wlad is no saint, but his not try to injure other fighter's, illegal ways

[H .]

When did this thread turn into the special ed thread? Comparing rabbit punching to clinching? For fuck's sake, if clinching was so outrageous, John Ruiz would've been banned for boxing.

[Ambition_Def]

When did this thread turn into the special ed thread? Comparing rabbit punching to clinching? For fuck's sake, if clinching was so outrageous, John Ruiz would've been banned for boxing.

John Ruiz SHOULD be banned from boxing. Who would argue against that aside from a select group of people?

[H .]

John Ruiz SHOULD be banned from boxing. Who would argue against that aside from a select group of people?

Peter should be banned faster than Ruiz

[Ambition_Def]

Peter should be banned faster than Ruiz


:lol: :lol:

I can't take you morons seriously. It's really amazing how you'd rather see Sam Peter banned before John "El Squeeze" Ruiz.

[Punisher33]

Like Mike Tyson once said during an interview, when asked about how his anger and rage can hurt him during the match, Mike's reply "It's a fight". Peter is not the most gifted fighter in the world, that is obvious to most viewers, but he does bring with him the anger, toughness, and power, the division is severely lacking. As far as the illegal punches, there overrated, even Manny said Sam's punches are fine and that there not illegal. We all remember Big George in his younger days, he was a wild puncher himself at times, he hit fighters with rabbit punches, because he was powerful, fighters would turn there back or put there head down to avoid his onslaught, which is a similiar thing Peter's oppenents do.

I'm saying Peter's a saint, but in any contact sport fouls will occur, sometimes intentional, sometimes not. It's up to the ref to decipher which is which, I have only seen Peter taken points away on two occasions, one against Peter, and a couple against Diaz. Peter is not as bad as some make him out to be, no worse than Holyfield or Tyson.

[Tunney5]

Peter should be banned faster than Ruiz


Absolutely. Although Ruiz is boring, and the refs should perhaps start to deduct points his holding, the difference is that rabbit punches are dangerous, people's lives have been ruined!

For all the Peter fans: before you approve of what he does, think of Gerald McClellan. Do you really want to see that happen to another fighter?

Peter's rabbit punching has to be stopped.

[mike464]

If you watch the Klitschko fight though Peter hits him on the back of the head because he keeps turning around. What is Peter supposed to do? Can you just turn your back to avoid getting hit?

[Punisher33]

If you watch the Klitschko fight though Peter hits him on the back of the head because he keeps turning around. What is Peter supposed to do? Can you just turn your back to avoid getting hit? No, you must protect yourself at all times, if not just drop to the canvas and stay there. Noone said shit when Hagler dropped Hearns with a punch behind the head, or when Foreman did it to Frazier, because if a guy purposely turns his back to avoid your punches, it means he had enough, and the ref should stop the fight right there if thats the case.

[AJAX]

The prob is when he throws his over hand right and a guy leans forward the punch ends up on the back of the head. I don't think he does intentionally it's just the way the punches end up. One thing I do like about Peter is his killer instinct, when he smells blood he goes after it, it was a good finish for him stopping Oleg. I also like the fact he wants to fight the best, he wants Wlad or Vitali which is great considering he now has a belt to lose. I don't see chagaev calling out anyone else out with a belt. Peter vs W or V will be the biggest HW fight in years.

[Decker]

When did this thread turn into the special ed thread? Comparing rabbit punching to clinching? For fuck's sake, if clinching was so outrageous, John Ruiz would've been banned for boxing. :lol:

H most threads seem to turn into special ed threads around here. You're being too logical. You can not have an honest debate w/the Wlad haters or Sammy huggers around here :verysad Fuhgetaboutit

How many times do you have to remind these idjuts that Ali clinched like a maniac - often against smaller or similar sized opponents. Makes no difference to loons that want to impose double standards.

[Ambition_Def]

Can you just turn your back to avoid getting hit?

Turning your back excessively is grounds for disqualification. If Randy Newman wasn't a spectator in official clothing Waldo would have either expended himself midway or been DQ'd.

[barneyrub]

When did this thread turn into the special ed thread? Comparing rabbit punching to clinching? For fuck's sake, if clinching was so outrageous, John Ruiz would've been banned for boxing.wlad doesnt clinch he hooks his arm around his opponents and his othe rarm around his kneck and leans down on him, he doesnt just fall into these clinches he lunhes in and clamps on to tire his opponents legs. He does it to much to just say oh its just a clinch.

[cuchulain]

John Ruiz SHOULD be banned from boxing. Who would argue against that aside from a select group of people?

Enough, dude !!!

Now you've gone too far.

John Ruiz represents all that is exciting and climactic and spine-tingling in this great sport.

Not since Ali and Frazier and foreman and Tyson has one man carried so consistently and so dedicatedly, the burden of providing not just victories but real fan excitement and value for money.

With his quiet and unasuming demeanour, and with the placid, stoic voice of Stoney offering calming and gentle direction from his corner, who could avoid being smitten.

Bite your tongue !

[AJAX]

Enough, dude !!!

Now you've gone too far.

John Ruiz represents all that is exciting and climactic and spine-tingling in this great sport.

Not since Ali and Frazier and foreman and Tyson has one man carried so consistently and so dedicatedly, the burden of providing not just victories but real fan excitement and value for money.

With his quiet and unasuming demeanour, and with the placid, stoic voice of Stoney offering calming and gentle direction from his corner, who could avoid being smitten.

Bite your tongue !

I couldn't agree more, he puts the entertainment in "sports entertainment"

[Ambition_Def]

Enough, dude !!!

Now you've gone too far.

John Ruiz represents all that is exciting and climactic and spine-tingling in this great sport.

Not since Ali and Frazier and foreman and Tyson has one man carried so consistently and so dedicatedly, the burden of providing not just victories but real fan excitement and value for money.

With his quiet and unasuming demeanour, and with the placid, stoic voice of Stoney offering calming and gentle direction from his corner, who could avoid being smitten.

Bite your tongue !

:lol:

Ole Jawny is lucky that the various athletic commissions haven't banned him. He'd be forced to scrub toilets otherwise!

[Mindspring]

Why are you bringing up irrelevant names into this argument? Maskaev isn't important here. We are talking about Waldo's dirty tactics which directly led to the dirty tactics of Sam Peter.

Focus on the argument at hand instead of runnin off.:nut

Ok,
You're the one that brought Brew into the picture, bragging how he broke thru Wlad's defense and bested him. You said that the same style that Sam would use to KO him in their rematch. It's not irrelevant, because then you excused the loss in the rematch with a shot Brewster.
I don't buy it. I think Brew had alot in the tank--he's alot younger than Oleg and the eye was fine-- it's just that Wlad had improved with more confidence and stamina in the rematch and Brewster became frustrated and owned...:dead My God, he quit on his stool.


Maskaev is important here because he was pretty well shot and did a helluva' alot better against Sam than Brew did against Wlad. He rocked Sam several times. Sam didn't own Maskaev.
The Maskaev that fought Peter wasn't the sameone that KO'd Rahman.
Pete's in for big surprise.

[Bigcat]

If you watch almost every so called rabbit punch Samuel lands on any of his opponents they always begin to turn away when the shot is thrown.. Samuel is blamed when in reality many fighters dance to the same tune and cower away , Anyone like to give Sammy some props for being a solid belt holder..

Holyfield had his issues with headbutting.

Tyson had issues with almost everything he did on a crazy night from elbows , attempted arm breaking, biting, etc etc...

Foreman had issues too..

Samuel deserves a bit of support , he has gotten better and he beats everyone he faces... apart from Wlad.. whom he had on the floor a bunch of times..

[Punisher33]

If you watch almost every so called rabbit punch Samuel lands on any of his opponents they always begin to turn away when the shot is thrown.. Samuel is blamed when in reality many fighters dance to the same tune and cower away , Anyone like to give Sammy some props for being a solid belt holder..

Holyfield had his issues with headbutting.

Tyson had issues with almost everything he did on a crazy night from elbows , attempted arm breaking, biting, etc etc...

Foreman had issues too..

Samuel deserves a bit of support , he has gotten better and he beats everyone he faces... apart from Wlad.. whom he had on the floor a bunch of times.. Well said, I been trying to say this for the longest time to some of these posters that are criticizing Peter for something that isnt completely his fault. It fighters wouldnt turn there head, Peter would never catch them on the back of the head, he reminds me of Foreman in his younger days, he would be punching some of his oppenents so hard they would turn there back or run away from getting hit by him, rabbits punches were a given, you cant take the punishment, drop to the canvas and stay there.

[Bigcat]

Well said, I been trying to say this for the longest time to some of these posters that are criticizing Peter for something that isnt completely his fault. It fighters wouldnt turn there head, Peter would never catch them on the back of the head, he reminds me of Foreman in his younger days, he would be punching some of his oppenents so hard they would turn there back or run away from getting hit by him, rabbits punches were a given, you cant take the punishment, drop to the canvas and stay there.

I think the Rabbit punching issue is an excuse to hate Peter..

God bless...

[Suge Green]

Leaning down on a guys kneck is not legal, WLAD LUNGES IN TO HOLD, he clamps his right arm around the opponents left and wrapps his left around their kneck leaning down on their kneck and back and squeezes tightly, heck look at the 12th round when he hurt Peter with the left hook, he immediatly lunged in and leant down on his back rather than to throw another punch, the ref in that fight was so ridiculous letting Wlad get away with all that, as seen below,

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Great vid Rub.