Enzo Calzaghe rips on Haye

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Big Enzo will be back

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Written by Enzo-Calzaghe ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
on Monday, 17 March 2008

Enzo Maccarinelli will be back this week. He had a bad turn, he's licked his wounds and he'll come back harder, stronger and better. A defeat doesn't have to be the end, it could be the beginning of your life. He wasnt hurt technically.
I'd rather it have gone that way than him been involved in a 12-round war. There is no physical damage like there would have been in a long battle. The only thing hurt is his pride.


He'll be back and start kicking arse big time. We'll adjust to the mistakes he made. He's come to terms with it. There's no one to blame but himself. He won't do that again.
I was 28-0 in world title fights, every good bubbles got to burst. I'm not God, there's only one God and he's up there.
No boxer or trainer's immortal. As long as we did our job right, when it comes down to business its down to the fighters.
All this said, Haye did nothing for me to change my views on him. It wasnt his performance that counted it was Enzo's performance. He was only as good as Enzo made him look.
He answered no questions to me. He only threw four punches himself a round. Four whole punches.
Lets be honest about it, this hot property: B*******.
I think the same of him as I did before. If Enzo went 12 rounds with the guy he would have destroyed him.
He didnt get a chance to show it because he did what he did wrong.
You can't judge what Haye is all about from that fight. It took him five big straight rights to deck Enzo.
Now you think he is going to be fighting 17 stone guys. It will take a lot more to put them down.
Lets not look too much . If thats 12 rounds as Maccarinelli can fight, as he does all the time, that greatest thing since sliced bread wouldn't be around today.
He won fair and square but lets not get carried away because enzo underperformed.
It wont be hard to get Enzo over this. He's a very positive character. He believes in his ability and he wont blame anyone. He knows a true Enzo would have done a job on this guy.
It could be lots of things, I'm not going to question what this was. He said straight afterwards: 'The thing I was asked to do I didnt do'. He will be back. Hopefully we can get him back in the beginning of June and we'll be ready to rumble with Enzo again.
We'll give him a ten-rounder to start with to dust the cobwebs off and then we'll get him straight back fighting for a world title.

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He's glad Macca didn't go 12 damaging rounds, but on the other hand Haye hits like a pussy and would've been destroyed anyway. Haye only threw 4 punches a round (?!) and it took him a whopping 5 (count 'em, 5) punches to put away Macca anyway.

If you lose to a guy that, by Enzo's count, threw a mere 8 punches, that reflects pretty badly on you...perhaps Enzo C is deep in the grip of senility or something.

[Betty Swollocks]

you wouldn't expect anthing but a load of bullhsit from this guy. he's the biggest cockroach in the sport is Calzaghe senior. he's a total moron

[Tony Harrison]

Ridiculous.

Frankly shows a lack of class too. I wouldn't begrudge the little nutter a rant straight after the fight/massacre when emotions were still running high but discrediting Haye's win a week later is pathetic.

[Cobbler]

Utterly ridiculous.

Well, no, Haye didn't answer any questions quite frankly. Because he wasn't asked any. Nor did I expect him to be, I always felt Maccarinelli would be a step down in class for Haye. Haye answered his questions previously. This fight was just for a bit of easy money and recognition.

Maccarinelli was the one stepping up and being asked the questions. His answers were not particularly positive.

Enzo Calzaghe should follow Frank ******'s lead and retire.

[dwilson]

Come be serious. Which boxer or trainer ever say's the opposite to what Enzo Calzaghe just said after a defeat.

I do think he's a cock but every trainer and fighter comes up with excuses and reasons why the fight could have turned out different.

We did not learn anything from the fight about how good Haye will be at heavyweight except he can destroy guys who are physically smaller than him and not on his level with technique. I think whatever you thought about Haye's chances at heavy will not have been affected by anything that happened during the Haye vs Macca fight.

[dwilson]

Fair enough if he'd said: I still believe Enzo has the beating of Haye, but he made a mistake.

We'll carry on.

he really dismissed Haye entirely. basically, to EC, Haye got lucky.

Really out of order.

I do not doubt he's abit of a cock but he will still try to defend his fighter and himself. Plus the bad blood from the build up came from him, ****** and Booth so he is not going to start singing Haye's praises and swing from his nuts.

Enzo is right to be glad that his fighter did not take a sustained beating, he obviously believes Macca can get back on track and fight for world honours once again. Enzo is a confident guy who will be trying to put abit of that belief into his fighters. If Haye cops abit of it while he's doing it he will not mind and I doubt Haye will either.

[Beeston Brawler]

Nothing wrong with defending your fighter, but all this carry on is just crass.

There wasn't anything wrong with his preparation granted, but it doesn;t matter how good one's preparation is, if the guy in the opposite corner is in a different league.

[achillesthegreat]

Enzo threw a counter hook as he pulled back. Enzo does it ALL THE TIME. Haye just had the goods to make him pay for it.

How did Haye not show unbelieve speed and power? How about the fact he was bossing the first round as a ring general. He was comfortable and his defence was working. Very few mistakes and then a devastating finish.

I liked it and Haye looked good because of what Haye did. Enzo fought like he always does, you saw the same moves inside those 5mins. Why didn't others put Enzo away like that? cos they ain't got the speed, timing, power, finishing ability etc

[dwilson]

I can read the article as well, so there's no objection that he wants to make clear Enzo isn't finished and that they'll work on the flaws Enzo made.

However, Enzo is basically saying that Haye is shit and that he was lucky he caught Enzo at all. If it had gone further, he'd have thrashed Haye senseless.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

It's really out of line - he should show some humility rather than be bitter that Haye is getting much deserved praise.

I agree but do you not think people are making somethinng of it just because it has come from Enzo Calzaghes mouth?

This type of talk happens just about all the time, after just about every fight.

[Beeston Brawler]

Agreed, not in the immediate aftermath, not a week later when rational thought should have taken over!

Enzo just ain't good enough to beat Haye - deal with it Mr Calzaghe.

[LB3000]

Enzo talking shite again, what a surprise. :roll:

[kurt2006]

Talk about sour grapes.

Enzo C should accept the best boxer won. Macca looked scared and timid against Haye and rightly so. Haye has a huge punch and Macca was scared of taking one and landing on his backside.

[dwilson]

Well, I think I'm making an issue out of it because it's so aggressive and detrimental to Haye.

It wasn't like Enzo was handing David his ass and got caught - Enzo had lost the first round and was on his way to losing the second when it happened.

If David goes on to win a title at HW, I imagine Enzo C will suddenly be bigging Haye up and saying how no wonder Enzo lost: he was fighting a damn good HW.

Yep your right he will, he is a cock and he really does not like Haye. Im sure in his mind he believer he's right.

I got pissed off with some of the stuff Mitchell said after the Johanneson fight, im a Johanneson fan. What Mitchell said was fairly normal to what is usually said but when it is about a fighter you like you get a little bit more pissed off than you usually would.

[Betty Swollocks]

it's all very well sticking up for your own guy and trying to build his confidence back up etc., after getting sparked.....yes that's normal.
But this little dipshit is going out of his way to discredit Haye. He's a bitter old fucker......Enzo Calzaghe is just a cunt of enormous proportions. Go look at all his interviews.

[DamonD]

There's defending and protecting your fighter (and reputation), and then there's just delusion. Feeding the line that Macca lost due to bad luck to a sub-par opponent that he should've thrashed.

This is the kind of delusion that could mean the flaws he showed against Haye will be ignored and overlooked. And what that potentially leads to is another bad knockout loss in the future.

Enzo C is in denial, and that does his fighter no good at all.

[Max Molyneux]

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Big Enzo will be back

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Written by Enzo-Calzaghe ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
on Monday, 17 March 2008

Enzo Maccarinelli will be back this week. He had a bad turn, he's licked his wounds and he'll come back harder, stronger and better. A defeat doesn't have to be the end, it could be the beginning of your life. He wasnt hurt technically.
I'd rather it have gone that way than him been involved in a 12-round war. There is no physical damage like there would have been in a long battle. The only thing hurt is his pride.


He'll be back and start kicking arse big time. We'll adjust to the mistakes he made. He's come to terms with it. There's no one to blame but himself. He won't do that again.
I was 28-0 in world title fights, every good bubbles got to burst. I'm not God, there's only one God and he's up there.
No boxer or trainer's immortal. As long as we did our job right, when it comes down to business its down to the fighters.
All this said, Haye did nothing for me to change my views on him. It wasnt his performance that counted it was Enzo's performance. He was only as good as Enzo made him look.
He answered no questions to me. He only threw four punches himself a round. Four whole punches.
Lets be honest about it, this hot property: B*******.
I think the same of him as I did before. If Enzo went 12 rounds with the guy he would have destroyed him.
He didnt get a chance to show it because he did what he did wrong.
You can't judge what Haye is all about from that fight. It took him five big straight rights to deck Enzo.
Now you think he is going to be fighting 17 stone guys. It will take a lot more to put them down.
Lets not look too much . If thats 12 rounds as Maccarinelli can fight, as he does all the time, that greatest thing since sliced bread wouldn't be around today.
He won fair and square but lets not get carried away because enzo underperformed.
It wont be hard to get Enzo over this. He's a very positive character. He believes in his ability and he wont blame anyone. He knows a true Enzo would have done a job on this guy.
It could be lots of things, I'm not going to question what this was. He said straight afterwards: 'The thing I was asked to do I didnt do'. He will be back. Hopefully we can get him back in the beginning of June and we'll be ready to rumble with Enzo again.
We'll give him a ten-rounder to start with to dust the cobwebs off and then we'll get him straight back fighting for a world title.

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He's glad Macca didn't go 12 damaging rounds, but on the other hand Haye hits like a pussy and would've been destroyed anyway. Haye only threw 4 punches a round (?!) and it took him a whopping 5 (count 'em, 5) punches to put away Macca anyway.

If you lose to a guy that, by Enzo's count, threw a mere 8 punches, that reflects pretty badly on you...perhaps Enzo C is deep in the grip of senility or something.


It's hardly ripping, his guy got beat but It doesn't mean he exactly has to change an opinion.

[DamonD]

Or even give a shred of credit, either.

Which makes Macca look worse for losing to the guy.

[robpalmer135]

Haye threw more punches than Macca, infact when he had him agaisnt the ropes he threw about 15 punches and didnt look out of breath.

[bratwurzt]

I'd rather it have gone that way than him been involved in a 12-round war.

If Enzo went 12 rounds with the guy he would have destroyed him.
Cock!

[Maza1987]

Holy fuck.
Thats needs to be put in the dictionary next to sour grapes.

[brown bomber]

EC is very close to ruining his reputation... There is nothing worse then a loud mouth trainer. I find this version of events puzzling... If your a fighter and your trainer says that you have to start asking yourself some questions. EC results so far as a trainer have been excellent but judging by the forums response to this madness coupled with the 'ticket' issue the other week and you have a seriously declining adoration for this guy. Personally I think he's had too much success too soon and its gone to his head. 'Trainer of the year' and all that.

[robpalmer135]

Macceranelli must be reading this so embarrassed!

[Olu G. Rotimi]

EC is very close to ruining his reputation... There is nothing worse then a loud mouth trainer. I find this version of events puzzling... If your a fighter and your trainer says that you have to start asking yourself some questions. EC results so far as a trainer have been excellent but judging by the forums response to this madness coupled with the 'ticket' issue the other week and you have a seriously declining adoration for this guy. Personally I think he's had too much success too soon and its gone to his head. 'Trainer of the year' and all that.

I think Enzo Calzaghe would have been best adviced to keep quiet if this is what he comes out with. Haye won for 1 very good reason he was the better man having more talent and having mixed in higher class. I have watched Enzo Maccarinelli closely even at ringside and while he is a good puncher especially with the left hook he has always had vulnerability about him. Haye is a sharper fighter than Macarinelli full stop. Enzo Calzaghe is on his way to losing all respect. I for one had never judged him based on his son Joe's success.

[Strike]

What a total cock.

Max - how the fuck can you defend him mate? He was saying before the fight that Haye was crap and he is now saying not just that Mac is much better and was unlucky but that Haye is going nowhere, is basically no good and he sounds like a fucking 5 year old crying.

He said before the fight that Mac was "twice as fast" and he now says he feels exactly the same about Haye as before the fight, thats funny because one of the rights Haye landed was a perfect example of speed and reactions, dodging a Mac punch to flash in a right that was simply too quick for Mac.

Enzo Calzaghe is an utter prick.

[Bodysnatcher]

It's ok to make excuses for your fighter: no doubt a fighter will read his own press and it'll do him no good to see his trainer saying `yep, he was outclassed, he was beaten by the stronger, quicker and more donminant man.`

So to say `he just got caught` is fine.

But there's no need to slag off the guy who just beat your guy.

Quite aside from the fact that it's rude and disrespectful, it makes your own guy look worse.

[faisal]

the old fanny lives off joes sucess he isnt shit in boxing, when lockett and bradley get KTFO in america he'll really know how much of a big shit he really is

[riot187]

The man is a f*cking embarrassment. What a prize Cock!

[Dibbs]

All this crap about Enzo making a mistake, he fought like he always does, only this time he was backed up more, he fought a guy who threw faster punches and quite simply he got caught. It's not about making mistakes that's just a cop-out, he fought a better fighter and got beat. It's as simple as that.

The difference was Enzo Calzaghe talked a good fight, and Haye fought one. So if Gavin Ree's loses that will be because Kotelnik had a good night???

And if Joe Calzaghe loses that might be because he became home sick???

It just goes to show bad sportsmanship doesn't just affect some fighters....and that's a shame for all concerned.

[HOF]

I suppose in a way it's undertsandable Calzaghe Sr talks like this but it just doesn't sound very good. With Rees, JC and Lockett training for world title fights he's gotta keep everything positive but he didn't need to undermine Haye. Smacks of sour grapes and doesn't sound particularly good when your fighter just got taken clean out by him.

[Diablo]

Hes clearly an idiot, take his son out of his stable and its seriously lacking

[Leif Erikson]

Given the tone of these comments, it's just about enough for me to hope Hopkins wins next month.

I don't think he will, but it would certainly be one of the funniest things to happen in boxing for a while if Enzo keeps this shit up. :lol:

[chesh]

What will he say if Rees loses on Saturday? Enzo C. could be in for a very bad run. I'd only pick Joe C. to be a winner in any of the stable's upcoming title fights - and that's no certainty.

[ishy]

Plus, he blames solely Enzo Mac for the loss.

"We'll adjust to the mistakes he made. He's come to terms with it. There's no one to blame but himself. He won't do that again."

So it's nothing to do with the trainer!!!

[toffeejack]

Plus, he blames solely Enzo Mac for the loss.

"We'll adjust to the mistakes he made. He's come to terms with it. There's no one to blame but himself. He won't do that again."

So it's nothing to do with the trainer!!!

He's probably right there though.

Enzo didn't follow the gameplan he admitted that himself. Not much a trainer can do in that scenario if he gets knocked out before being given a chance to sort Mac out.

[Dunky McCafferty]

He's probably right there though.

Enzo didn't follow the gameplan he admitted that himself. Not much a trainer can do in that scenario if he gets knocked out before being given a chance to sort Mac out.

"Enzo didnt follow the gameplan"

I would love to know what gameplan Enzo Calzaghe had for this fight, I rightly picked Haye to win based on his blinding handspeed here on ESB. I just couldnt see how Macarinelli could stay away from Hayes fast hands, & thats exactly what happened.

[Strike]

"Enzo didnt follow the gameplan"

I would love to know what gameplan Enzo Calzaghe had for this fight, I rightly picked Haye to win based on his blinding handspeed here on ESB. I just couldnt see how Macarinelli could stay away from Hayes fast hands, & thats exactly what happened.

Exactly. What "gameplan"? The gameplan according to Weasel Face before the fight was based on the fact that Mac was "twice as fast", "hits harder", the "better boxer" and that Mac also had the better stamina and chin.

If you are faster, more skilled, fitter, more prepared, have a better chin, better ring craft, a better mentality and you hit harder than your opponent, then what fucking plan do you need? None. You turn up and you win by virtue of being better in every relevant department.

The "plan" was to do what Enzo Mac always does. Jab well, throw nice hard 1-2's, look for the big left hook or over hand right and when the man covers up work the body and yet don't blaze away. Maintain constant and yet controlled pressure without burning yourself out. He always boxes the same. Upright, good jab, good 1-2 and likes to throw the left hook.

Well he jabbed and he threw the left and he looked for 1-2's, he also went to the body when in close. In fact considering how short the fight was he did everything that Mac does in most of his fights.

Problem was that Haye has better reactions and is faster. Haye timed the jabs and avoided almost all of them, he had Mac hitting air and he was the faster, stronger man with more power.