Time of day to do road work

[PaddyD1983]

I'm getting a little bored of doing my roadwork first thing in the morning and was wondering whether anyone would advise against me shaking up my routine.

My gym is open early enough for me to hit the bags and do a circuit in the morning and then I can do my roadwork in the evening (when I would ordinarily train). Is there a physical reason for doing roadwork in the morning and workout later on? Or is just more of a practical thing that most gyms arent open early enough?

Thanks in advance

[PedroDePacas]

I can't think of any reason why you shouldn't do that. I do most of my gym work in the mornings because I need to be flexible in the evenings in case I finish work late.

[salsanchezfan]

I think it's just a convenience thing. Gyms get going a bit later in the day, so it's a means to get the dreary roadwok out of the way first. Thee's no physical reason to favor one time of day over the other for running.

[jimmie]

I think it's just a convenience thing. Gyms get going a bit later in the day, so it's a means to get the dreary roadwok out of the way first. Thee's no physical reason to favor one time of day over the other for running.

Holyshit man where the hell have u been at ? Im glad to see ur alright im assuming.

[joekirkbycobra]

go after tea

[Thomas619]

at night :D peace and quiet

[joekirkbycobra]

at night :D peace and quiethardly

[salsanchezfan]

Holyshit man where the hell have u been at ? Im glad to see ur alright im assuming.

Hey Jimmie- Nice to see ya again; alive and well here, thnx! :D

[Diomedes]

I generally prefer to run at night, sometimes around the hills in my neighbourhood, sometimes along the waterfront. It's cooler, and it is more peaceful and quiet, less distractions.

[Adaptation]

I generally prefer to run at night, sometimes around the hills in my neighbourhood, sometimes along the waterfront. It's cooler, and it is more peaceful and quiet, less distractions.

So true. iPod and the peaceful night is the way to go(only if you have enough discipline to run outside. If not, treadmill is the way to go)

[viru§™]

So true. iPod and the peaceful night is the way to go(only if you have enough discipline to run outside. If not, treadmill is the way to go)

How could you not have enough discipline to run outside?

[PaddyD1983]

So true. iPod and the peaceful night is the way to go(only if you have enough discipline to run outside. If not, treadmill is the way to go)

Peaceful night? I need to make sure my public profile outlines that I live in Liverpool! Peaceful night. Pffft

[AK-47]

I do mine at night sometimes when i have work and stuff to do. I cant be asked to get up like 5ish in the morning

[Diomedes]

I have an aversion to early morning running. When I was first losing weight (from when I was an insanely unfit fatty), after my initial success mainly through eating less and jogging at night, I decided to add HIIT, sprinting on the beach in the mornings on an empty stomach. Now, I still didnt fully understand nutrition at this point, and I know I wasnt getting enough protein, but when I next went to my nutritionist about a month after starting this, she did a bodyfat analysis thing and found that I'd lost about 2kg of muscle and only about 800g of fat! It was a disaster. Now, I always get a proper breakfast and give it time to digest (I seem to have slow gastric emptying, so a few hours) before doing any sort of workout. If I woke at a reasonable hour though, by this time the day usually gets in the way, so its easier to do it at night.

[Raashid]

I have an aversion to early morning running. When I was first losing weight (from when I was an insanely unfit fatty), after my initial success mainly through eating less and jogging at night, I decided to add HIIT, sprinting on the beach in the mornings on an empty stomach. Now, I still didnt fully understand nutrition at this point, and I know I wasnt getting enough protein, but when I next went to my nutritionist about a month after starting this, she did a bodyfat analysis thing and found that I'd lost about 2kg of muscle and only about 800g of fat! It was a disaster. Now, I always get a proper breakfast and give it time to digest (I seem to have slow gastric emptying, so a few hours) before doing any sort of workout. If I woke at a reasonable hour though, by this time the day usually gets in the way, so its easier to do it at night.

Thatr's strange because according to sports fitness people at maximuscle, they suggest running/cardio pre-breakfast causes the body to break down stored fat,whereas once you've eaten, your body will just take calories you've consumed.
Obviously you still need to consume enough protein to maintain muscle. I'm on a "cut" cycle myself now and am trying this running early to see if I can get bodyfat down. Do you know how I can get a proper fat analysis done. Those machines don't seem accurate. One said I'm 12%, another 23% and now another says 17% which would suggest I'm a fat git, though my abs are showing faintly.

[amy]

Thatr's strange because according to sports fitness people at maximuscle, they suggest running/cardio pre-breakfast causes the body to break down stored fat,whereas once you've eaten, your body will just take calories you've consumed.
Obviously you still need to consume enough protein to maintain muscle. I'm on a "cut" cycle myself now and am trying this running early to see if I can get bodyfat down. Do you know how I can get a proper fat analysis done. Those machines don't seem accurate. One said I'm 12%, another 23% and now another says 17% which would suggest I'm a fat git, though my abs are showing faintly.

I think the tests with the calapers where they pinch your fat in a few places on your body, are preety accurate. I assume you can call up a fitness facility and ask if you could come in and pay to have a profile done.

[amy]

Time of day to do road work

Whatever time you are most likely to stick with it and run on a regular basis is the best time to run.

[viru§™]

Thatr's strange because according to sports fitness people at maximuscle, they suggest running/cardio pre-breakfast causes the body to break down stored fat,whereas once you've eaten, your body will just take calories you've consumed.
Obviously you still need to consume enough protein to maintain muscle. I'm on a "cut" cycle myself now and am trying this running early to see if I can get bodyfat down. Do you know how I can get a proper fat analysis done. Those machines don't seem accurate. One said I'm 12%, another 23% and now another says 17% which would suggest I'm a fat git, though my abs are showing faintly.

Running pre-breakfast DOES NOT burn more fat. High intensity anaerobic work burns fat a whole lot faster then slow aerobic work. Without food you won't be able to run, swim, row, cycle, whatever intense enough. Like I said in another post compare the bodies of a top level sprinter to a marathon runner (Anaerobic vs Aerobic).

[Diomedes]

Thatr's strange because according to sports fitness people at maximuscle, they suggest running/cardio pre-breakfast causes the body to break down stored fat,whereas once you've eaten, your body will just take calories you've consumed.

That's one theory, and it was reading theories like that which caused me to want to try it out in the first place. Since experiencing my terrible results, I began looking deeper, and found that the issue isnt so clear cut - in fact its quite controversial. A lot of scientists believe that even if more fat is burnt during early morning fasted cardio, this will be compensated for later by the body, the end result being that calories in is calories out - that all that matters is that you do the exercise at some point, and that you eat x amount of calories. Additionally, fasted cardio also creates an environment conducive to burning muscle away (as I experienced).

If I'd been taking in more protein, maybe it wouldnt have been so bad. But I'm not about to experiment with that routine again.

Obviously you still need to consume enough protein to maintain muscle. I'm on a "cut" cycle myself now and am trying this running early to see if I can get bodyfat down. Do you know how I can get a proper fat analysis done. Those machines don't seem accurate. One said I'm 12%, another 23% and now another says 17% which would suggest I'm a fat git, though my abs are showing faintly.

In terms of the machines, I think they're best as an indicator of progress rather than of exactly where you are, as long as you take the measurement in consistent cirucmstances - eg, same time of day, same level of hydration etc. If you're starting to see abs, I'd say you're closer to 12% than 17%, and certainly not 23%.

The most accurate measurement is some sort of submergence test, which I've never had done, and is supposed to be expensive. They submerge you in water, which I guess gives them your total volume, which they can relate to your mass and probably calliper measurements, I'm not entirely sure.

The easiest accurate way is simply with the callipers.

[joekirkbycobra]

That's one theory, and it was reading theories like that which caused me to want to try it out in the first place. Since experiencing my terrible results, I began looking deeper, and found that the issue isnt so clear cut - in fact its quite controversial. A lot of scientists believe that even if more fat is burnt during early morning fasted cardio, this will be compensated for later by the body, the end result being that calories in is calories out - that all that matters is that you do the exercise at some point, and that you eat x amount of calories. Additionally, fasted cardio also creates an environment conducive to burning muscle away (as I experienced).

If I'd been taking in more protein, maybe it wouldnt have been so bad. But I'm not about to experiment with that routine again.



In terms of the machines, I think they're best as an indicator of progress rather than of exactly where you are, as long as you take the measurement in consistent cirucmstances - eg, same time of day, same level of hydration etc. If you're starting to see abs, I'd say you're closer to 12% than 17%, and certainly not 23%.

The most accurate measurement is some sort of submergence test, which I've never had done, and is supposed to be expensive. They submerge you in water, which I guess gives them your total volume, which they can relate to your mass and probably calliper measurements, I'm not entirely sure.

The easiest accurate way is simply with the callipers.
so did u lose a lot of muscle

[Diomedes]

so did u lose a lot of muscle

2kg, yeah, and I only lost 800g of fat! Fucking disaster.

[joekirkbycobra]

2kg, yeah, and I only lost 800g of fat! Fucking disaster.how did u work out how much muscle and fat u lost?
thats a bad ratio 5:2

[Diomedes]

how did u work out how much muscle and fat u lost?
thats a bad ratio 5:2

A little while after I started trying to get into shape I went to a nutritionist, and part of the assessment she gave me was to measure my bodyfat percentage. I went to her every few months for a while, and between the weight change and the bodyfat percentages, you can work out what made up any particular change in weight. So in that instance I'd lost almost 3kg but my bodyfat percentage went up! Ugh.

[joekirkbycobra]

A little while after I started trying to get into shape I went to a nutritionist, and part of the assessment she gave me was to measure my bodyfat percentage. I went to her every few months for a while, and between the weight change and the bodyfat percentages, you can work out what made up any particular change in weight. So in that instance I'd lost almost 3kg but my bodyfat percentage went up! Ugh.wow
dont blame u 4 not doin it again

[Nigel_Benn]

I prefer roadwork in the evening to i always find i can run longer in the evening i realised that its because iv been to work and consumed enough clean calories to make this possible diomedes you seem to know what ur talking about so i wanna ask a question whens the best time to take a protein shake before you run how many hours before you run i mean?

[PaddyD1983]

I prefer roadwork in the evening to i always find i can run longer in the evening i realised that its because iv been to work and consumed enough clean calories to make this possible diomedes you seem to know what ur talking about so i wanna ask a question whens the best time to take a protein shake before you run how many hours before you run i mean?

How much of an advantage do shakes and supplements give you? I've always been a fan of just a natural diet trying to balance my protein/carb etc intake through my usual eating patterns.

Dont really need to bulk/add muscle any but I do have problems shifting the last few pounds when trying to lose weight. Any suggestions? I would, ideally, like to maintain my weight at all times but struggle to do so. I am presuming that this is down to my diet, but I cant see any obvious problems with it.

(probably a different thread needed for this, but I'll see what I get from you guys anyway)

Thanks

[joekirkbycobra]

How much of an advantage do shakes and supplements give you? I've always been a fan of just a natural diet trying to balance my protein/carb etc intake through my usual eating patterns.

Dont really need to bulk/add muscle any but I do have problems shifting the last few pounds when trying to lose weight. Any suggestions? I would, ideally, like to maintain my weight at all times but struggle to do so. I am presuming that this is down to my diet, but I cant see any obvious problems with it.

(probably a different thread needed for this, but I'll see what I get from you guys anyway)

Thankswat club do u fight 4

[Diomedes]

I prefer roadwork in the evening to i always find i can run longer in the evening i realised that its because iv been to work and consumed enough clean calories to make this possible diomedes you seem to know what ur talking about so i wanna ask a question whens the best time to take a protein shake before you run how many hours before you run i mean?

Well, my experiences are applicable to myself - everyone's different, so basically I can warn against certain things, or talk about what's worked for me, but I dont want it to seem as though I'm talking in universals. Different things work for different people.

Before a run, or boxing or whatever, I like to have a protein shake preferably 2 hours or so beforehand - usually whey, milk, sometimes half a banana or some frozen berries. If I'm not going to have a shake, but a substantial solid meal, preferably 3 or even 4 hours beforehand - but I seem to have slow gastric emptying.

[joekirkbycobra]

but I seem to have slow gastric emptying.
nice to no

[donalnaughton]

running is running fit it in where you can, if you live in an urban area running early in the morning is prob the best time for your lungs, before co2 smog from traffic builds up, this is one reason running early morning is advised by some, when you run your lungs process ten times the amount of oxygen than when your are at rest, so you can see the logic of this, others run early because they feel it gives them the edge, that they are going the extra mile so to speak, others because they have watched too many Rocky movies!! running is important and the important thing is to do it, when is less important so long as it fits with your schedule

[joekirkbycobra]

running is running fit it in where you can, if you live in an urban area running early in the morning is prob the best time for your lungs, before co2 smog from traffic builds up, this is one reason running early morning is advised by some, when you run your lungs process ten times the amount of oxygen than when your are at rest, so you can see the logic of this, others run early because they feel it gives them the edge, that they are going the extra mile so to speak, others because they have watched too many Rocky movies!! running is important and the important thing is to do it, when is less important so long as it fits with your scheduleive always wen off school with a fight comin up done early roadwork after breakfast
midday gym work after lunch
evening strength work after tea
i believe traing after meals allows you 2 push yourself more

[MGUNZ48]

While I have run at all different times. I feel that running first thing in the am, staring out just before its light out is best. Not so much that its a physically any better, but I think it gives you a mental edge. Getting out of a warm bed to run down a dark, cold road takes some discipline, and I always looked to it as an I had a mental edge over everybody else by doing it. Plus the feeling I got running as the sun came up always motivated me to run fastre/longer. It was the perfect way to start the day.

[joekirkbycobra]

i enjoy early morning runnin makes me feel like what all the greats did