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jimmy kerr
03-18-2008, 04:49 PM
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this has proved every argument the brits hae had aout the fight
Give it up. Hatton got KTFO
Arran
03-18-2008, 04:53 PM
Give it up. Hatton got KTFO
True that.
....But the ref was biased and it was 2 v 1
mrbassie
03-18-2008, 04:55 PM
Not even going to bother watching it, if Hatton feels hard done by the ref then he knows how every single one of his opponents in Manchester felt.
No sympathy for a confirmed dirty fighter and a hypocrit.
EDIT: What about Hatton bending Mayweather's arm in round 1 a la Tyson vs Botha?
jimmy kerr
03-18-2008, 04:55 PM
hatton got frustrated therefore he ran into that check hook
Zhaakal
03-18-2008, 04:55 PM
Get over it. Cortez on no Cortez, Ricky would have lost anyway.
Rise Above
03-18-2008, 04:56 PM
Give it up. Hatton got KTFO
:yep
holy shit... that second one... damn. good vids
Broxi
03-18-2008, 05:00 PM
:lol: @ Crotch sniffing & "Fucking Weasel"
jimmy kerr
03-18-2008, 05:01 PM
alll i want is for every one to see that mayweather had to cheat to keep hatton off him
Rise Above
03-18-2008, 05:02 PM
alll i want is for every one to see that mayweather had to cheat to keep hatton off him
As if its any worse than the referee in the Tszyu vs Hatton fight.
jimmy kerr
03-18-2008, 05:06 PM
who allowed the fight to continue on the inside but still no holdng, a british referee who understands that all fighters arent pussy like mayweather who want to allow the fight fought at range in the comfort zone, hatton is too much on the iniside and cortez give mayweather 7-8 rounds through cheating
Pimp C
03-18-2008, 05:12 PM
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this has proved every argument the brits hae had aout the fight
:| :| :| It doesn't prove shit.
Hatton was outclassed in that fight period and only a fool or a Hatton hugger thought he had even a puncher's chance in that fight.:deal
PBF toyed with Hatton from the 5th round on and baited Ricky into becoming more and more reckless and in the 10th round his plan was realized when Ricky came in squared up with no head movement and got caught with a perfect hook that sent him headfirst into the ring post. PBF beats Ricky 1000/1000 times deal with it.:hi:
Pimp C
03-18-2008, 05:14 PM
alll i want is for every one to see that mayweather had to cheat to keep hatton off him
STFU! Ricky got beat at his own game and KTFO.:lol:
dave82
03-18-2008, 05:15 PM
get the fuck over it!!!
Jase2483
03-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Ricky got out hustled at his own game..
He's one of the dirtiest fighters out there, and quite over-rated
He could fight Floyd another 100 times and wouldn't win a single fight, i'd take whatever odds given on that - and bet the house on it.
Circa
03-18-2008, 05:23 PM
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Rise Above
03-18-2008, 05:28 PM
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
pipe wrenched
03-18-2008, 05:46 PM
STFU! Ricky got beat at his own game and KTFO.:lol:
This is it in a nut shell. It's not like you ever see PBF doing any of that stuff any other time. Only when facing one of the dirtiest fuckers in the sport did PBF have to prove his overall mastering of the game and show he can grind with the best of 'em.
If only you could see the pure hillarity in a Hatton fan crying foul!:lol:
castle
03-18-2008, 05:49 PM
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MoneyMay just give Hatton a dirty boxing lesson big fucking deal Hatton had been getting away with shit in his own back yard for years ,only he s not as good at it as MoneyMay is
BigReg
03-18-2008, 05:55 PM
who allowed the fight to continue on the inside but still no holdng, a british referee who understands that all fighters arent pussy like mayweather who want to allow the fight fought at range in the comfort zone, hatton is too much on the iniside and cortez give mayweather 7-8 rounds through cheating
If Mayweather is a pussy, what does that say about Hatton and all of his fans who claim Floyd was too rough in that fight?
Thread Stealer
03-18-2008, 05:57 PM
I always find it funny how people act so shocked by seeing a guy bend the rules and use some illegal tactics.
How much boxing have you guys even watched if you're gonna be so appalled by fights that aren't even that dirty?
Pimp C
03-18-2008, 06:02 PM
This is it in a nut shell. It's not like you ever see PBF doing any of that stuff any other time. Only when facing one of the dirtiest fuckers in the sport did PBF have to prove his overall mastering of the game and show he can grind with the best of 'em.
If only you could see the pure hillarity in a Hatton fan crying foul!:lol:
And that's what so funny about it. They had no complaints when Cortez refed the Hatton-JLC fight and when he was announced as the ref for the PBF-Hatton fight they said he was a good choice and favored Hatton.
Thread Stealer
03-18-2008, 06:09 PM
Hatton fanboys crying about illegal tactics.
Next thing you know, Golota fans will start talking about other guys being quitters and chokers.
Sweet Pea Pacquiao
03-18-2008, 06:13 PM
You could argue the same thing for Hatton's illegal holding against Tszyu. I didn't see you on this board crying "Hatton + Dave Parris vs. Tszyu" when that fight happened.
jimmy kerr
03-19-2008, 06:06 AM
Ricky got out hustled at his own game..
He's one of the dirtiest fighters out there, and quite over-rated
He could fight Floyd another 100 times and wouldn't win a single fight, i'd take whatever odds given on that - and bet the house on it.
send me the link to one video of ricky being dirty like mayweather was and ill stand corrected u shit head
Rise Above
03-19-2008, 06:11 AM
send me the link to one video of ricky being dirty like mayweather was and ill stand corrected u shit head
You really are a sore loser man.
jimmy kerr
03-19-2008, 06:16 AM
You really are a sore loser man.
i am just disgusted at what the americans did to the proffesionalism of the sport that night. i wouldnt care if cortez died the shiny headed vegas twat. respect mayweather but not on that night he was gettin hit when he never held or suckd hattons balls
jimmy kerr
03-19-2008, 07:09 AM
no one dis agree
Beeston Brawler
03-19-2008, 07:13 AM
Get over it for God's sake.
Ricky wasn't helped by Cortez, everybody knows that, the ref isn't there to help you, he is there to officiate how he sees it, OK he made a few mistakes, but Ricky made some of his own in the fight. But he didn't lose because of Cortez, he lost because Floyd is the better fighter.
For six rounds, it was a good contest - then Hatton lost it following the point deduction and played straight into Floyd's hands, and got KO'd.
Ricky never said he lost the fight because of Cortez anyway - he said that Floyd left the forearms in and that, and gave him credit for doing it in the post fight press conference, using his 'its not a tickling contest' catchphrase.
Some people need to learn to lose properly - next it will be 'If Calzaghe wasn't so good, Lacy would have won' or summat daft!
Dirty Bastard
03-19-2008, 07:24 AM
STFU! Ricky got beat at his own game and KTFO.:lol:
Perfectly said....Beat at his OWN game
great post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jimmy kerr
03-19-2008, 07:33 AM
Perfectly said....Beat at his OWN game
great post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
like i said before show me a video of hatton being dirty or give me a prime example
pioterbezkitu
03-19-2008, 08:58 AM
Hatton was cheated couse Cortez didn't let him do the wrestle/grab and punch/rabbit punching shit. I didn't hear the whining from you Brits when Ricky was doing all that shit in his fights. Mayweather just played Ricky's game and won despite Hatton having a huge experience advantage in this department.
theunderdog
03-19-2008, 09:23 AM
cortez could have dance around butt naked in the ring for all i care and it would still have the same result. pbf by ko.
PowerPuncher
03-19-2008, 09:33 AM
like i said before show me a video of hatton being dirty or give me a prime example
Watch any Ricky Hatton fight and watch him breaking the following rules:
1. Hitting and holding (more illegal than anything Mayweather did in the film)
2. Wrestling
3. Excessive clinching
4. Low Blowing (he said he hoped the low blow against Tyszu helped him win the fight)
Hatton tried to excessively clinch and wrestle and was stopped from doing so. Its his own fault for becoming known as 'hit and hold' Hatton, the ref has to clamp down on cheating. Mayweather bent the rules a little but not anything like as much as Ricky does in an average fight
alll i want is for every one to see that mayweather had to cheat to keep hatton off him
Hatton was doing anything once he got on the inside , a fact that was brought up in his own corner .
Hatton tried to push and pull floyd into exhaustion and it didn't work, Hatton seriously overlooked floyd physical strength , he and his corner played into the hype, that Hatton was the stronger fighter and he would be able to bull Floyd through out the fight.. Hatton was frustrated because he realized he was sold a load bull, that he honestly believe he had the answer for..
Govanmauler
03-19-2008, 09:44 AM
While I agree with all the " pro-mayweather" stuff on this post and I also agree that this topic really should be dead by now I was wondering why Mayweather gets away with ther use of the fore-arm so much. I have watched his whole career upto and including Hatton over the last few weeks and he got a point deducted in 1 fight and numerous warnings in others yet seems to do it all the time.
However all that said when you go back and watch what mayweather has done over the years and the quality fighters he has destroyed I deffo agrtee that regardless of the ref , location , ring size whatever Flloyd beats Ricky 999 times out of 1000 the guy can do it all !
MancMexican
03-19-2008, 10:44 AM
that video is a bit of an eye opener - i remember watching the post fight interview where hatton talked about floyd's little fowls and i thought you can't complain! but all the eblows are worse than clinching any day of the week
Pimp C
03-19-2008, 11:13 AM
Hatton was doing anything once he got on the inside , a fact that was brought up in his own corner .
Hatton tried to push and pull floyd into exhaustion and it didn't work, Hatton seriously overlooked floyd physical strength , he and his corner played into the hype, that Hatton was the stronger fighter and he would be able to bull Floyd through out the fight.. Hatton was frustrated because he realized he was sold a load bull the he honestly believe he had the answer for..
Exactly they underestimated PBF's toughness and strenght in this fight. They thought they would push PBF around bang him to the body and make him quit but they couldn't have been more wrong.
Beeston Brawler
03-19-2008, 12:28 PM
Your right, body shots have rarely worked with Mayweather, because he blocks most of them with his forearms.
Hatton is usually able to bully his opponents, as he did Tszyu, and to a lesser extent Castillo (because he got him out early) and uses this as an advantage - Mayweather wouldn't have looked all that daunting physically, so he gave it a go. For five/six rounds it was working reasonably well, he admitted all along that there was no point trying to outbox Mayweather, nobody could do that, so try to bully him a bit, rough him up and wear him down, with the intention of stopping him late on - either through throwing bombs in 11th & 12th, or by some other means.
It didn't work from then onwards (fifth/sixth), and he was taken out fairly and squarely.
Cortez did suck, but it wouldn't have made that much difference - Hatton actually got in too close and smothered his own work too much, also allowing the 'stray' elbows and forearms to have an impact on him from Mayweather.
If the fight happened again, Ricky wouldn't have got in as close as he did, and wouldn't have lost his rag as there would have been no points deduction. Still not sure whether I see him winning though.
A lot of the shit Floyd did was reaction to Ricky falling in reckless and trying to protect him self all the while fight his fight...it would have been a different fight had Ricky picked his spots better and let his hands go more instead of depending on the ref to let him fight inside because even when he had his moments on this inside he still didn't make the best of them.
Arriba
03-19-2008, 12:37 PM
If you look closely, you can see Joe Cortez sticking his foot out when Hatton goes towards FMJ. The stumbling plus the check hook led to Hatton falling foward where Joe Cortez donned an invisible cloak to slam Hatton into the ring post.
Beeston Brawler
03-19-2008, 12:47 PM
At times in the fight though, Ricky looked quite good on the outside, perhaps Floyd was expecting an inside fight and prepared for it, I don't know.
The Castillo KO set it all off - 'I am the best inside fighter of all' etc, Ricky is very good inside, but underestimates his boxing skills on the outside, and therefore rarely uses them - for the first five or so against Urango he looked good, before resorting to hugging for some reason.
Govanmauler
03-19-2008, 12:48 PM
At times in the fight though, Ricky looked quite good on the outside, perhaps Floyd was expecting an inside fight and prepared for it, I don't know.
The Castillo KO set it all off - 'I am the best inside fighter of all' etc, Ricky is very good inside, but underestimates his boxing skills on the outside, and therefore rarely uses them - for the first five or so against Urango he looked good, before resorting to hugging for some reason.
Getting tired perhaps ?
igotJUIC3
03-19-2008, 01:32 PM
as a floyd fan i definitely saw the elbows as he does it in most fights where fighters try and get rough...its a protection tactic and a tactic to keep the other fighter off balance and uncomfortable...i dont think he goes into fights saying he will look to use it but i just think its a counter to the rough housing tactics that are said to aid in beating him......the whole plan for Rick was to rough house and tried a lot and hence you seen a lot of elbows.....fact is he we know he wins even without the illegal stuff...rick on the other hand....well he uses illegal tactics everytime
Tettsuo
03-19-2008, 01:33 PM
First off, Floyd didn't hit Ricky with an elbow. He used the forearm to create space for himself so Ricky couldn't use his head and wrestling tactics to take his opponents out of position. If Ricky took an elbow, it was because he was diving into it. Both tactics are illegal though, so if you're going to let Ricky do it, ya gotta let Floyd also do it.
Unless you expected Cortez to allow Ricky to use illegal tactics but not Floyd?
PH|LLA
03-19-2008, 01:44 PM
damn really that is fucking bad everytime i see it i can't believe it.
really i still think Hatton vs Tszyu was even worse.
Exactly they underestimated PBF's toughness and strenght in this fight. They thought they would push PBF around bang him to the body and make him quit but they couldn't have been more wrong.
Exactly !! Hatton just read too many clipping and listen to many floyd credit, that he was the stronger fighter of the two .. Only to admit after the fight that floyd is allot stronger then he is at 147.. you can tell in the fight Hatton and his corner had no plan B ,, they put all there egg in one basket :lol:
I kept asking myself when watching that fight why would a fighter (ricky) , continuously come forward and eat punches and not try to make any type of adjustment. :think
digiram
03-19-2008, 04:51 PM
Exactly !! Hatton just read too many clipping and listen to many floyd credit, that he was the stronger fighter of the two .. Only to admit after the fight that floyd is allot stronger then he is at 147.. you can tell in the fight Hatton and his corner had no plan B ,, they put all there egg in one basket :lol:
I kept asking myself when watching that fight why would fighter (ricky) , continuously come forward and eat punches and not try to make any type of adjustment. :think
There wasn't gonna be no plan B. If they tried to adjust, floyd would have went Gatti on him. His best bet was to try wrestling and disrupting on the inside, but Floyd has better inside fighting skills and knows how to create seperation with the forearm. If Hatton's gonna smother for the sake of smothering, then Floyd should be able to create seperation to turn it back into a boxing match where the object of the game is to land punches.
charlievint
03-20-2008, 11:47 AM
True that.
....But the ref was biased and it was 2 v 1
LOL....you want to see bias justs look at the KT vs Hatton fight. That is biased.
Joe merley didn't allow rough house tatics on the inside and Hatton was trying very hard to rough house Floyd on the inside.
Ultimately the better man won easily.
charlievint
03-20-2008, 12:33 PM
This is it in a nut shell. It's not like you ever see PBF doing any of that stuff any other time. Only when facing one of the dirtiest fuckers in the sport did PBF have to prove his overall mastering of the game and show he can grind with the best of 'em.
If only you could see the pure hillarity in a Hatton fan crying foul!:lol:
thank you! Someone with common sense. This trait is scarce on this board.
charlievint
03-20-2008, 12:36 PM
send me the link to one video of ricky being dirty like mayweather was and ill stand corrected u shit head
Be easy and get that wedgy out of your cunt!:patsch What Floyd was doing wasn't anything to loose your fucking marbles about. Was it a bit rough...YES...was it overboard...HELL FUCKING NO. This is boxing! you want "NICE" go watch ball room dancing or the fucking opera. I can't believe we have this many sissy's on this message board.
charlievint
03-20-2008, 12:41 PM
i am just disgusted at what the americans did to the proffesionalism of the sport that night. i wouldnt care if cortez died the shiny headed vegas twat. respect mayweather but not on that night he was gettin hit when he never held or suckd hattons balls
:lol: You got one irritated vagina. Are all brits such bitches? I sure hope not.:hi:
charlievint
03-20-2008, 12:50 PM
that video is a bit of an eye opener - i remember watching the post fight interview where hatton talked about floyd's little fowls and i thought you can't complain! but all the eblows are worse than clinching any day of the week
Nah...those elbows didn't do shit...it was more of the forearm use that Floyd used that made Hatton mad. But Hatton always wants to hold and smother....Floyd used his forearm to get distance.
But if you really think about it....elbows are DEADLY. They can cut you up with out much force....IF floyd really was elbowing Hatton you would have seen Hatton all bloodie up and cut up. Hatton was just sour and hurt which is understanable...but no need to sound like a whinny little bitch. He's got enough bitchass fans to do that for him...and Im not calling all Hatton fans Bitches...just the ones that act like Bitches...I like Hatton but I'm no cry baby.
charlievint
03-20-2008, 12:53 PM
as i know most of them i used to work with some of them and in the some way they all were full of them selves
I hate to "Blanket" an entire group of people b/c not everyone are the same.....but there are plenty of whinny people crying about the refing in this fight which wasn't a bit deal.
elTerrible
03-20-2008, 01:32 PM
Hatton was doing anything once he got on the inside , a fact that was brought up in his own corner .
Hatton tried to push and pull floyd into exhaustion and it didn't work, Hatton seriously overlooked floyd physical strength , he and his corner played into the hype, that Hatton was the stronger fighter and he would be able to bull Floyd through out the fight.. Hatton was frustrated because he realized he was sold a load bull, that he honestly believe he had the answer for..
Exactly, the whole Hatton team underestimated PBF.
They thought that 15 rounds on the body bag is all Hatton needed to do in order to beat PBF. PBF moves a bit better than the bodybag and punches back too:lol:
Hatton couldnt land shit on PBF while PBF was landing the flush shots. They also assumed Hatton could go and manhandle PBF when it was little Rickey who was getting all tuckered out in the late rounds.
PBF spars 15 rounds and stays in the 150's year round. If he had to make 147 five days from now, he could do it. Rick, today is probably what, 170 something.
They underestimated PBF's strength and stamina. Just because he doesnt normally have a high punch output doesnt mean he dont have stamina. Ive never seen him tired, while Hatton has tired in other fights as well.
boxeo#1
03-20-2008, 04:11 PM
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this has proved every argument the brits hae had aout the fight
Wow... I am speechless. I know Hatton got ko'd but the only one who was dirty here was Floyd. And Cortez constantly warning and talking to Hatton!!
I think Floyd would of one anyway and the biggest mother fucker in this fight here is Cortez.
:shock:
Taylex
03-20-2008, 04:55 PM
No body complained when Hatton used dirty tactics against Kosta!
boxeo#1
03-20-2008, 05:01 PM
No body complained when Hatton used dirty tactics against Kosta!
Hmm I haven't seen that fight. Did the ref warn Hatton if he was so dirty??
boxeo#1
03-20-2008, 06:22 PM
Did you kry alot after the fight? Ican make as many points if not even more about hatton. and cortez was nothing to comper to the british ref for hatton vs kt:barf :| :scaredas:
Umm fool I am neutral, not a fan of Floyd nor hatton..:roll:
You got the wrong person..
Toopretty
03-20-2008, 06:59 PM
The funny thing about the video. Ricky was doing or trying to do the same dirty shit in every clip. lOL Throwing elbows..head locks, holding and hitting...funny'
jimmy kerr
03-21-2008, 07:03 AM
Watch any Ricky Hatton fight and watch him breaking the following rules:
1. Hitting and holding (more illegal than anything Mayweather did in the film)
2. Wrestling
3. Excessive clinching
4. Low Blowing (he said he hoped the low blow against Tyszu helped him win the fight)
Hatton tried to excessively clinch and wrestle and was stopped from doing so. Its his own fault for becoming known as 'hit and hold' Hatton, the ref has to clamp down on cheating. Mayweather bent the rules a little but not anything like as much as Ricky does in an average fight
firstly mayweather was hittin and holding every right hand he threw, mayweather done all of the holding and every time he didnt cheat his head would rock back from hattons shots
Brian123
03-21-2008, 08:23 AM
Cortez was disgusting Teddy Atlas ripped him a new asshole after that fight and called it a disgrace to boxing-I tend to agree.
jimmy kerr
03-21-2008, 08:30 AM
Cortez was disgusting Teddy Atlas ripped him a new asshole after that fight and called it a disgrace to boxing-I tend to agree.
amen to that
Wow, I'm shocked at the amount of elbows that landed cleanly. Cortez definately favoured Floyd, no doubt. Did it change the result? Probably not. Though taking clean elbows does help in one getting knocked out, so who knows!?
Would've loved to see that fight with the referee that did Hatton-Tszyu... :rofl
Note: I'm no Hatton fanboy either... he beat my boy (Tszyu).
Sedona
03-21-2008, 09:33 AM
It was actually 3 against 1.
Mayweather, Cortez and the Mr. Ringpost.
If that damn old ringpost hadn't been there, Ricky would have went on to bust up Floyd and attain the glory he so richly deserves.
hopkins54
03-21-2008, 09:35 AM
Cortez is a bitch
PowerPuncher
03-21-2008, 09:36 AM
firstly mayweather was hittin and holding every right hand he threw, mayweather done all of the holding and every time he didnt cheat his head would rock back from hattons shots
Hatton missed all of his shots so thats not likely. Both fighters bent the rules and Hatton was no more innocent than Mayweather he just came off worse. Mayweather is just better at boxing and fighting rough than Hatton
Sedona
03-21-2008, 09:37 AM
i am just disgusted at what the americans did to the proffesionalism of the sport that night. i wouldnt care if cortez died the shiny headed vegas twat. respect mayweather but not on that night he was gettin hit when he never held or suckd hattons balls
Jimmy - watch the end of round 9 of the Hatton/Tszyu match...then go away and stop embarrassing Hatton and Britain.
hopkins54
03-21-2008, 09:38 AM
Hatton missed all of his shots so thats not likely. Both fighters bent the rules and Hatton was no more innocent than Mayweather he just came off worse. Mayweather is just better at boxing and fighting rough than Hatton
then why did the ref warn hatton everytime he fouled but not mayweather?
mike464
03-21-2008, 09:50 AM
It's funny that when Mayweather had Hatton bent over the ropes and punched him in the back of the head nothing happens but when Hatton does the same to Mayweather he loses a point.
And what the hell does 'get's' mean?
jimmy kerr
03-21-2008, 01:44 PM
it would have been a different story. i am a big hatton fan so i possibly sound very biased but i truly truly know having followed rickys carreer that he was not at his beat that night he was probably 50% to his best and i believe that mayweather give his best in that fight so what would the fight tell in a rematch which wouldnt get under rickys skin as much, new ref new location and new ricky hatton LETS GET IT ON
ajc1984
03-21-2008, 02:07 PM
There's no doubt that Floyd is the better fighter, but there's equally no doubt that Cortez did an AWFUL job reffing that fight, and I do think at least the point deduction (if not Cortez's general ineptitude) led to Hatton becoming desperate and opening himself up for more punishment as the fight progressed.
AmericanSugar
03-21-2008, 02:16 PM
hatton was getting caught with the check hook the ENTIRE fight. He didn't all-of-a-sudden start to open up and then got hit with a good shot. Mayweather was ad******g the entire night, and breaking Hatton down. I believe the point deduction was excuseable. Hatton blatantly tried to hit him in the back of the head. Mayweather was stuck between the ropes, Hatton then came down with a hard illegal punch, although it did not land, the bad intentions behind it is enough for me to agree to the -1
they_killed_kenny
03-21-2008, 02:34 PM
Good videos, got some true into them but the only punch that landed with no tricks or anything was the one to sent the Hitman into the corner,
jimmy kerr
03-27-2008, 07:43 AM
then why did the ref warn hatton everytime he fouled but not mayweather?
duuuuuuuuuuuur why u fink the threads called cortez and myweather vs hatton numnuts. he was a biased wanka thats why
jimmy kerr
03-27-2008, 07:44 AM
hatton was getting caught with the check hook the ENTIRE fight. He didn't all-of-a-sudden start to open up and then got hit with a good shot. Mayweather was ad******g the entire night, and breaking Hatton down. I believe the point deduction was excuseable. Hatton blatantly tried to hit him in the back of the head. Mayweather was stuck between the ropes, Hatton then came down with a hard illegal punch, although it did not land, the bad intentions behind it is enough for me to agree to the -1
watch the videos on the thread and you will see mayweather attemp to hit hatton in the back of the head in an almost identical situation
jimmy kerr
03-27-2008, 07:46 AM
and this guy gets the next british big fight with an american i have to say we have been stupid in allowing cortez the job for calzaghe - hopkins
AmericanSugar
03-27-2008, 07:58 AM
watch the videos on the thread and you will see mayweather attemp to hit hatton in the back of the head in an almost identical situation
so, hatton lost the fight period. it wasn't from cortez, it was from a punch. hatton fought a stupid fight. thats his fault.
jimmy kerr
03-27-2008, 08:06 AM
so, hatton lost the fight period. it wasn't from cortez, it was from a punch. hatton fought a stupid fight. thats his fault.
okok if thats your opinion but are you telling me he wasnt cheated
jimmy kerr
03-27-2008, 10:36 AM
calzaghe will either now get completly cheated out of the fight by the bias twat from december 8th or hell try and lose the reputation and favour calzaghe and cheat hopkins niether way is fair so i suggest the old man retires after this fight and fuckin leave the sport be
Quickhands21
03-27-2008, 12:10 PM
Dude..I dont even like floyd..But Money one fair an square..its clear as day..He's The best in the world..Hatton jus wasnt good enough..point blank PERIOD
Quickhands21
03-27-2008, 12:12 PM
Floyd also has better one punch power..I hope Hatton fight Witter..He wont tho..Cause Witter would also beat the shit down his leg
Sedona
03-27-2008, 12:54 PM
0954 March 27, 2008....and the Hatton crybabies are still crying? :lol:
jimmy kerr
03-28-2008, 09:10 AM
0954 March 27, 2008....and the Hatton crybabies are still crying? :lol:
as are the americans the callazo hatton fight
Carlos Primera
03-28-2008, 09:43 AM
maybe hatton would've won if he stopped blocking punches with his face.
jimmy kerr
04-02-2008, 08:47 AM
maybe hatton would've won if he stopped blocking punches with his face.
or stopped getting strangled or elbowed in the face
lillarry
04-02-2008, 08:55 AM
as are the americans the callazo hatton fight
You think we actually give a shit about that fight:rofl
Maza1987
04-02-2008, 09:34 AM
Omg, Floyd Got Exposed
stilltharow
04-02-2008, 09:35 AM
get over it!!!!! mayweather outclassed him!
jimmy kerr
04-02-2008, 09:58 AM
Out cheated him more like
amen to that
Sedona
04-02-2008, 10:19 AM
Note to self:
0718 April 2, 2008 - The Hatton crybabies still crying :nut
jimmy kerr
04-02-2008, 04:12 PM
Note to self:
0718 April 2, 2008 - The Hatton crybabies still crying :nut
until spring 2009 baby
Irish Steel
04-02-2008, 04:27 PM
As a hatton fan myself, I know he still would have lost. However, I think hatton could have won a few more rounds had the ref been different.
Mikey
04-02-2008, 06:03 PM
until spring 2009 baby
Mayweather will destroy Hatton next time they meet.
jimmy kerr
05-02-2008, 07:07 AM
Mayweather will destroy Hatton next time they meet.
I think Hatton will fight so much better as the bad blood between the guys has gone. the emotions and anger wont allow hattons frustration to be reached. he will still fight on sheer heart and desire and he would be in even better shape then UNDEFEATED. and i know its a brave call but i think hatton could make all you americans EAT YOUR WORDS
Benjiabc
05-02-2008, 08:18 AM
alll i want is for every one to see that mayweather had to cheat to keep hatton off him
too be honest i see your point but hatton lost and theres nothing else too it, although it did seem harsh
madpup
05-02-2008, 08:54 AM
March 09 rematch - Hatton wins by guillotine choke submission in round 3.
The Sarge
05-02-2008, 09:22 AM
A truely great fighter wouldnt have had to resort to dirty tactics regardless of the opposition and certainly wouldnt have needed the ref in his pocket.
Why did Cortez allow all of Hopkins holding v Calzaghe if he was genuinely consistant and "firm but Fair"?
I think Hatton will fight so much better as the bad blood between the guys has gone. the emotions and anger wont allow hattons frustration to be reached. he will still fight on sheer heart and desire and he would be in even better shape then UNDEFEATED. and i know its a brave call but i think hatton could make all you americans EAT YOUR WORDS
you just don't get it do you .. ?? Hatton doesn't have the skill set to deal with Floyd, Hatton relies on his strength more then he does on his boxing skill.
hatton's food benging and weight gains in between fights has finally reveled itself, he spend so much time losing weight during training that he has not improved his skill during that time .. Hatton will fight floyd the same way regardless what his mind set is , he can not out box , inside fight, or even out slug floyd , he has nothing to offer.
Carlos Primera
05-02-2008, 09:44 AM
A truely great fighter wouldnt have had to resort to dirty tactics regardless of the opposition and certainly wouldnt have needed the ref in his pocket.
Why did Cortez allow all of Hopkins holding v Calzaghe if he was genuinely consistant and "firm but Fair"?
why did he allow hatton to hug castillo as much as he wanted?
Pimp C
05-02-2008, 12:19 PM
I think Hatton will fight so much better as the bad blood between the guys has gone. the emotions and anger wont allow hattons frustration to be reached. he will still fight on sheer heart and desire and he would be in even better shape then UNDEFEATED. and i know its a brave call but i think hatton could make all you americans EAT YOUR WORDS
Hatton can't beat PBF period. Not at 140, not at catch weight of 145 not at 147 not in his own living room. PBF owns his ass deal with it.:hi:
sambob
05-02-2008, 12:33 PM
If anything I think Floyd will beat Hatton worse in their second fight. He now knows more about Hatton. He already knew he was smarter, faster, with better boxing skills... but now he knows he's stronger than Hatton, that he can hurt him, and that if he fights aggressively that Hatton does not have the tools to keep him off or even fight back. Also Hatton can't deal with body shots very well.
sam_sunders
05-02-2008, 12:47 PM
The point is being missed. This is about a referee, not the boxers.
We all know the outcome, we all know who won. No ref could have won it for Hatton. BUT - the reffing was crap and biased. That is true.
goldenboy
05-02-2008, 02:44 PM
fucking disgracefull performance by cortez!! ruined the fight!!
ThePlugInBabies
05-02-2008, 02:45 PM
are the hatton fags still washing the sand out of their vaginas?
after they get over cortez they'll need to start coming to terms with the fact that their boy is now only the third best active fighter from the UK.
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Monticello
05-02-2008, 02:55 PM
This was an awesome fight, but no way Hatton would have beaten Mayweather at 147 at any time. Floyd out boxed, and out brawled him throughout the fight.
PowerPuncher
05-02-2008, 03:02 PM
Cortez is a joke.Period.He was all over Hatton like a rash for holding and then when reffing Cal-Hop lets Hopkins hold all night!!Totally inconsistant or should I just say plain biased.
He didnt stop Hatton from holding he just broke them when they held, thats the rule, its boxing not wrestling. Hopkins didnt try to wrestle or hit and hold as Hatton tried too.
Brian123
05-02-2008, 03:05 PM
The point is being missed. This is about a referee, not the boxers.
We all know the outcome, we all know who won. No ref could have won it for Hatton. BUT - the reffing was crap and biased. That is true.
Agreed, Hatton could not fight his fight and lost. Biased? Cortez has always been a joke.
ESPN "called the fight the worst officiating in history".
Thread Stealer
05-02-2008, 03:07 PM
Agreed, Hatton could not fight his fight and lost. Biased? Cortez has always been a joke.
ESPN "called the fight the worst officiating in history".
Then they are really stupid.
Betty Swollocks
05-02-2008, 03:57 PM
It's boxing, not wrestling. Cortez was right to stop Hatton's holding. Simple as that.
Cortex is a cheat. It's quite simple to see. I paid over £3000 to see Calzaghe / Hopkins. Vegas was great, i loved it. But Joe COrtez ruined the fight due to his biassed nature. He's a disgrace and should never referee a fight again.
Watch the fight again and see WHO is doing ALL the holding!!! :deal
stop fucking crying !!!! or else except the rematch !!!!
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