Joe and Bernard debate there records

[Nigel_Benn]

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Joe cant name a great fighter on his record:lol:

[Decebal]

:lol:

Yeah...Nard had Joe rattled there...:yep...but they were talking BIG NAMES not great fighters, really...:)

[Buddy La]

I hope they just keep it professional during this press conferences. I thought the shove Hopkins gave Winky Wright was disrespectable and not neccessary for the fight. It may be for publicity, but it's boxing not wwf.

[McGrain]

The funny thing is that argument they had -

"NAME ONE GREAT FIGHTER THAT YOU'VE FOUGHT!"

"You've fought all little guys, man, little guys."

Is repeated over and over again, all day on ESB.

Sinister.

[BENNY BLANCO]

yeah hopkins beat some great fighters but joe calzhaghe is right both tito and oscar are small guys and IMO i feel bhop lost to taylor both times because he was throwing one punch at a time.

[Decebal]

Sinister ESB...

I like you too, McGrain...!:blood

[Maxime]

It's like they came here to get their lines. :lol:

[McGrain]

Yeah, Joe looked like he needed a little help.

He should let Amsterdam do his talking for him. Except the press would all hate him then.

[Amsterdam]

Calzaghe was so dismissive, hilarious.:lol:

[Krisv1]

Big names/Great fighters Calfagi has Zilch on his record.

[Fedor Em]

Calzaghe was so dismissive, hilarious.:lol:

He was clearly rattled and embarrassed of his record. :rofl

[Krisv1]

Hopkins has fought Roy Jones, Tarver, Taylor, Trinidad De La Hoya.

Calzaghis best are Lacy and Kessler ROFL

[Decebal]

Yeah, Joe looked like he needed a little help.

He should let Amsterdam do his talking for him. Except the press would all hate him then.

:rofl

:-(

You. Are. Badass!:yep

[Amsterdam]

Yeah, Joe looked like he needed a little help.

He should let Amsterdam do his talking for him. Except the press would all hate him then.

Joe's not a trash talker, he easily brushed off what Hopkins said and replied in the correct manner.

If he hired Amsterdam, everyone would love Joe, I'd bring my mate CHJ along as well as head propaganda clerk of the promotional end and we'd have every American on the tour convinced that Calzaghe is the GOAT.

I'd probably get fired for convincing people that Mijares is God.

[Arran]

Hopkins has fought Roy Jones, Tarver, Taylor, Trinidad De La Hoya.

Calzaghis best are Lacy and Kessler ROFL

Eubank? Prime Reid? even Woodhall is bigger than Lacy. He was just an ameri-bum!

[ThePlugInBabies]

The funny thing is that argument they had -

"NAME ONE GREAT FIGHTER THAT YOU'VE FOUGHT!"

"You've fought all little guys, man, little guys."

Is repeated over and over again, all day on ESB.

Sinister.

are you suggesting that we are all just a bunch of alias' belonging to hopkins and joe?

i like that idea.

[Decebal]

I'd probably get fired for convincing people that Mijares is God.

:lol:

[McGrain]

He was clearly rattled and embarrassed of his record. :rofl

I agree actually, I think Calzaghe is feeling it a bit. His patter post spat was hilarious. Also, although Joe fears n o man in the ring he seems just a wee bit off when Bernard gets into his space. Obviously Calzaghe isn't going to start anything so I think he feels the upper hand goes to Bernard in a situation like that.

He seemed of his stride at that conference for whatever reason. Hopkins better have more though if he's hoping to throw Joe of on fight night.

[BENNY BLANCO]

Hopkins has fought Roy Jones, Tarver, Taylor, Trinidad De La Hoya.

Calzaghis best are Lacy and Kessler ROFLbut hop lost to taylor and jones. he beat tarver but tarver is not a great fighter never was. oscar and tito were both fighting outside of thier respective weight classes at 160.

[Amsterdam]

He was clearly rattled and embarrassed of his record. :rofl

My god, you're misguided.

[McGrain]

:rofl

:-(

You. Are. Badass!:yep

:lol:

[PH|LLA]

:lol: this further confirms my suspicions that CHJ is Joe Calzaghe and that BigReg is Bernard Hopkins

[Decebal]

:lol: this further confirms my suspicions that CHJ is Joe Calzaghe and that BigReg is Bernard Hopkins

:lol:

[McGrain]

I'd bring my mate CHJ along as well as head propaganda clerk of the promotional end and we'd have every American on the tour convinced that Calzaghe is the GOAT.

This is a TERRIBLE idea, CHJ has already admitted to wanting to "kiss with" Calzaghe - although strangely he doens't want to "hold hands" - I think China would make Joe really uncomfortable, staring at him, trying to touch him and pat him all the time, putting his penis into his mouth when Joe was trying to sleep...

[Amsterdam]

I agree actually, I think Calzaghe is feeling it a bit. His patter post spat was hilarious. Also, although Joe fears n o man in the ring he seems just a wee bit off when Bernard gets into his space. Obviously Calzaghe isn't going to start anything so I think he feels the upper hand goes to Bernard in a situation like that.

He seemed of his stride at that conference for whatever reason. Hopkins better have more though if he's hoping to throw Joe of on fight night.

Joe doesn't have an aggressive personality, he basically dismissed Hopkins there, didn't seem off at all, he just doesn't know how to respond in the type of trash talk that these others produce, it's not how they do it Europe generally.

Just because Hopkins is louder, doesn't mean he has the upper hand when that's Hopkins' personality.

Hopkins has been the one who's been acting like a fool the entire time, see his interview where he acted like he was a prophet? Ridiculous.

He knows he's going to lose.

[Decebal]

This is a TERRIBLE idea, CHJ has already admitted to wanting to "kiss with" Calzaghe - although strangely he doens't want to "hold hands" - I think China would make Joe really uncomfortable, staring at him, trying to touch him and pat him all the time, putting his penis into his mouth when Joe was trying to sleep...

:lol: :-(

[McGrain]

Joe doesn't have an aggressive personality, he basically dismissed Hopkins there, didn't seem off at all, he just doesn't know how to respond in the type of trash talk that these others produce, it's not how they do it Europe generally.

Amsterdam, the reporter wasn't trash talking with him. Yet Joe was lost. He is not particularly verbally literate, but it is still not nomral for him to say "at the end of the day" four times in one sentence then repeat something he has already said.

If you can't see it,you're just off.

Trust me, he was rattled. I don't say it will mean anything, but I do say it is true.

[Fedor Em]

My god, you're misguided.

Not really, he could not think of one great fighter, and was trying to laugh it off.

[Decebal]

Amsterdam, the reporter wasn't trash talking with him. Yet Joe was lost. He is not particularly verbally literate, but it is still not nomral for him to say "at the end of the day" four times in one sentence then repeat something he has already said.

If you can't see it,you're just off.

Trust me, he was rattled. I don't say it will mean anything, but I do say it is true.

Yeah...rattled...but that's because he cares about NAMES much more than he should, not because he thought it meant Bernard was better prepared than him.

[McGrain]

Yeah...rattled...but that's because he cares about NAMES much more than he should, not because he thought it meant Bernard was better prepared than him.

I won't say that that is for sure the reason, but I will say that he doesn't feel he is underprepared, that's for sure.

[Amsterdam]

What would be the reaction if Calzaghe TKO'd oldman early?

Hopkins starts so god awfully slow.

[barneyrub]

I bet Ricky Hatton and his fans really appreciated Joes comment, "im no ricky Hatton", in reference to Hattons loss to Mayweather.

[Decebal]

I won't say that that is for sure the reason, but I will say that he doesn't feel he is underprepared, that's for sure.

Joe was silly to get rattled; he should have asked Bhops to name great European fighters that HE fought in his career...

[McGrain]

Joe was silly to get rattled; he should have asked Bhops to name great European fighters that HE fought in his career...

:lol:

[Amsterdam]

Joe was silly to get rattled; he should have asked Bhops to name great European fighters that HE fought in his career...

Joe is not an intelligent guy, he's of average intelligence at best.

[D_knowsboxing]

Joe doesn't have an aggressive personality, he basically dismissed Hopkins there, didn't seem off at all, he just doesn't know how to respond in the type of trash talk that these others produce, it's not how they do it Europe generally.

Just because Hopkins is louder, doesn't mean he has the upper hand when that's Hopkins' personality.

Hopkins has been the one who's been acting like a fool the entire time, see his interview where he acted like he was a prophet? Ridiculous.

He knows he's going to lose.

I didn't know you and Joe are BFF's! Does he take his agression out on you since he doesn't do it against the guy he's supposed to be fighting?

Hopkins is louder, but he is also in Joe's head. Joe doesn't know how to handle this b/c the only other time he had a semi press conference/ fight tour was against...:huh ohh, hasn't been done on this level huh? Sheltered maybe?

Hopkins maybe acting like a fool, but look at what happened in a similar situation a la PBF v Hatton. Hatton was all quite, putting on ear plugs etc... Then PBF commenced to tagging that ass.

Who knows if Calz will lose? Who knows if BHop will lose? All I'm saying is that Joe hasn't been in the bright American lights before, lets just hope he doesn't get stage fright.:good

[Amsterdam]

I bet Ricky Hatton and his fans really appreciated Joes comment, "im no ricky Hatton", in reference to Hattons loss to Mayweather.

Who cares about them, they're annoying and gone.

[robpalmer135]

The biggest names on Hopkins record our Taylor and Jones Jnr and he lost to them. His biggest wins were agaisnt Blown up Welters in De La Hoya, Trinidad and Wright, and a guy coming down from H/W in Tarver. His only win over a top guy that should have been at M/W was Glen Johnson!

Calzaghe beat Eubank, Lacy, Kessler all top fighters, Knocked out Veit in Germany and beat Brewer who legitamatley should have been World Champ after beating Ottke.

Guys like Woodhall, Reid and Mitchell were as good as the guys Hopkins faced like Eastman, Allen and others.

[Decebal]

Joe is not an intelligent guy, he's of average intelligence at best.

Well...I wouldn't say that at all; how many of us have Tuco's wit and spark at a moment's notice?

Still, he should have asked Bhops the last time he fought someone as good as Kessler!:yep

This is what I would have done!

Bhops would have looked like this:

:yikes

[Amsterdam]

Well...I wouldn't say that at all; how many of us have Tuco's wit and spark at a moment's notice? Still, he should have asked Bhops the last time he fought someone as good as Kessler!:yep This is what I would have done! Bhops would have looked like this:

:yikes

Hopkins would just say Kessler is not anything.

[BENNY BLANCO]

The biggest names on Hopkins record our Taylor and Jones Jnr and he lost to them. His biggest wins were agaisnt Blown up Welters in De La Hoya, Trinidad and Wright, and a guy coming down from H/W in Tarver. His only win over a top guy that should have been at M/W was Glen Johnson!

Calzaghe beat Eubank, Lacy, Kessler all top fighters, Knocked out Veit in Germany and beat Brewer who legitamatley should have been World Champ after beating Ottke.

Guys like Woodhall, Reid and Mitchell were as good as the guys Hopkins faced like Eastman, Allen and others.co-sign

[D_knowsboxing]

The biggest names on Hopkins record our Taylor and Jones Jnr and he lost to them. His biggest wins were agaisnt Blown up Welters in De La Hoya, Trinidad and Wright, and a guy coming down from H/W in Tarver. His only win over a top guy that should have been at M/W was Glen Johnson!

Calzaghe beat Eubank, Lacy, Kessler all top fighters, Knocked out Veit in Germany and beat Brewer who legitamatley should have been World Champ after beating Ottke.

Guys like Woodhall, Reid and Mitchell were as good as the guys Hopkins faced like Eastman, Allen and others.

The only time Tarver was a HW was in Rocky... Lacy, Eubank and Kessler (maybe on an good day) top fighters??? You need to stop blending your fantasy world with reality.:smoke

[Decebal]

Hopkins would just say Kessler is not anything.

Indeed. He said recently he had never even heard of Kessler before he heard Calzaghe beat him. And in saying so, he would prove how out of depth he is on this one...:yep

[Decebal]

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This is where Calzaghe asks Bhops about Kessler:yep

[Jude]

but hop lost to taylor and jones. he beat tarver but tarver is not a great fighter never was. oscar and tito were both fighting outside of thier respective weight classes at 160.

Well said!

[mattress]

Thanks for a reminder decebel. I hope to god that Calzaghe beats the old prick badly. I think it may be a close fight with Calzaghe winning but I pray for a serious beatdown on Hopkin's arse. What a punk.

[Jude]

Joe is not an intelligent guy, he's of average intelligence at best.

Have you got his IQ and aptitude test scores in front of you ??!!?!!? :huh

[Decebal]

Thanks for a reminder decebel. I hope to god that Calzaghe beats the old prick badly. I think it may be a close fight with Calzaghe winning but I pray for a serious beatdown on Hopkin's arse. What a punk.

Well, Bhops thinks he is the clever matador who will spear the crazy bull who dives forward, swarming. Sometimes, though, things go wrong:

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:yep

[mattress]

I just find the man (Hopkins) embarrassing. People here harp on about how certain fighters talk about themselves as if they are the second coming but Hopkins is the biggest offender in the sport. He is worse than the egomaniac we all know as PFB.

[Decebal]

calzaghe sould have asked what happened in ecuador...

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...altitude...too much for everyone..

[D_knowsboxing]

I just find the man (Hopkins) embarrassing. People here harp on about how certain fighters talk about themselves as if they are the second coming but Hopkins is the biggest offender in the sport. He is worse than the egomaniac we all know as PFB.

You, my friend are mistaken. At least the two fighters you have mentioned have done things in the sport of boxing.. Agreed? The worst offender of unwarranted egomaniacism (is that a word?) is Paulie Mali. Hands down, thread over regarding ego.:deal

[Robbi]

:lol:

Yeah...Nard had Joe rattled there...:yep...but they were talking BIG NAMES not great fighters, really...:)

Calzaghe called Trinidad small. He's only saying this based on Trinidad having previously been a welterweight. But when Trinidad faced Hopkins he was around the same size, and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply pulling the wool over their own eyes.

Trinidad matured into a natural middleweight, similar to the way Hearns did in the mid 80's.

Can you imagine Hagler moving up to light-heavyweight and his record being played down by his opponent saying "Who have you fought, Hearns was a small guy".

Trinidad can't even get down to middleweight at present.

[PaddyD1983]

Amsterdam, the reporter wasn't trash talking with him. Yet Joe was lost. He is not particularly verbally literate, but it is still not nomral for him to say "at the end of the day" four times in one sentence then repeat something he has already said.

If you can't see it,you're just off.

Trust me, he was rattled. I don't say it will mean anything, but I do say it is true.

It is normal for him to say it four times. Shall we politely say that he's not the smartest of chaps. His interviews are very rarely literary wonders!

We are also forgetting the fact that he is Welsh... let battle commence

[Decebal]

Calzaghe called Trinidad small. He's only saying this based on Trinidad having previously been a welterweight. But when Trinidad faced Hopkins he was around the same size, and anyone who says otherwise is simply pulling the wool over their own eyes.

Trinidad matured into a natural middleweight, similar to the way Hearns did in the mid 80's.

Can you imagine Hagler moving up to light-heavyweight and his record being played down by his opponent saying "Who have you fought, Hearns was a small guy".

Trinidad can't even get down to middleweight at present.

Well...small or not/matured into a natural middleweight or not, I don't think that's the real point, although growing into a natural middleweight, if it's done right, qualifies you as a natural middleweight, sure. To me, the real point is whether you are as effective given your (new) style at the higher weight as you were at the previous weight you made your mark on. Not many people can pull it off, whether they mature into the higher weight or not...Trinidad did not...

[Decebal]

His interviews are very rarely literary wonders!

That may be true but it would be unwarranted to suggest on that basis that Calzaghe is not a smart fellow; there's more than one way of being smart, dont-you-know...he was rattled; that's all. He might not be a great wit, but that doesn't make him not intelligent.

[Marnoff]

I agree actually, I think Calzaghe is feeling it a bit. His patter post spat was hilarious. Also, although Joe fears n o man in the ring he seems just a wee bit off when Bernard gets into his space. Obviously Calzaghe isn't going to start anything so I think he feels the upper hand goes to Bernard in a situation like that.

He seemed of his stride at that conference for whatever reason. Hopkins better have more though if he's hoping to throw Joe of on fight night.

I agree, Calzaghe just is unable to handle the confrontation verbally. Come fight night we'll see if Bernard's edge here will transfer over.

[Decebal]

I agree, Calzaghe just is unable to handle the confrontation verbally. Come fight night we'll see if Bernard's edge here will transfer over.

I'd be very surprised if the better the debater, the better the fighter; in fact, is it not the other way around?:huh

[BewareofDawg]

Joe should use Jack Presscot's Driving Miss Daisy material at the Press Conference :rofl :rofl :rofl And the mock conversations he posts between Oscar and Bernard :lol:

[McGrain]

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This is where Calzaghe asks Bhops about Kessler:yep

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I love Bernard's jacket.

[Robbi]

Calzaghe "Trinidad small guy, small guy"


Idiot with a capital I

[toffeejack]

People shouldn't read too much into Calzaghe's behaviour now and right up until after the weigh-in.

Hopkins will always look like he has the upper hand before the fight because Joe is not and has never been a trash talker and yes he does sometimes look uncomfortable when it comes to all that bollocks. He's always been like that.

At the end of the day all that matters is what happens once that fiirst bell goes and then is when the Calzaghe that matters comes out.

[dangerousity]

Chris Eubank was a great fighter. Even past prime, Chris would still have beaten ODLH & Tito at MW.

Im quickly becoming a Calzaghe fan now hes fighting top opponents, stand up guy with tremedous skills.

[goldenboy]

joe knows his record is not the outstanding one!! but he remained confident and ready to stand his ground when the issue was put to him. I think overall bernard is the one who is rattled, and joe knows that!!