Most Overrated & Underrated Fighters of all time

[jaycuban]

pick 'em

[Stinky gloves]

Just fast guess:

Lewis - overrated
Vitaly - underrated

?

[tampa]

mayweather overated
tyson underrated

[Smith]

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Overrated - Ali

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[lefthook31]

Overated currently, Jermaine Taylor
Underated currently Joe Calzahge

[ruizfan]

Overrated: Tyson
Underrated: Tyson

[Thread Stealer]

Overrated: Tyson
Underrated: Tyson

That's basically what I was going to say.

Underrated and overrated is hard to gauge because it all depends on who's doing the rating. Some will overrate a certain fighter and others will underrate him.

[Bazooka]

I think Evander Holyfield has been highley underrated seriously prior to and even after his win over Tyson, let me ask you all this, where would Holyfield rank today as an ATG had he retired after he rematched Michael Moorer?
I think he would be pretty high, the man at that stage had beat everybody he has ever faced. what do you all think?

[Thread Stealer]

I think Evander Holyfield has been highley underrated seriously prior to and even after his win over Tyson, let me ask you all this, where would Holyfield rank today as an ATG had he retired after he rematched Michael Moorer?
I think he would be pretty high, the man at that stage had beat everybody he has ever faced. what do you all think?

No, Holyfield for the most part gets plenty of credit.

For instance, Nigel Collins had him at #3 all-time in the HW division after the first Tyson fight, and The Ring had him just outside the top 20 of fighters in the last 80 years.

[newrp01]

Mike Tyson. Lost to every man that stood up to him. For all the physical strength and impressive repertoire never prevailed when at odds.

[RAMPAGE0017]

Overrated - Mayweather

Underrated - Calzaghe, I guess.

[djrock247]

mayweather overated
tyson underrated

Mayweather underrated
Tyson overrated

[Thread Stealer]

Overrated: Tyson
Underrated: Tyson

That's basically what I was going to say.

Underrated and overrated is hard to gauge because it all depends on who's doing the rating. Some will overrate a certain fighter and others will underrate him.

Mike Tyson. Lost to every man that stood up to him. For all the physical strength and impressive repertoire never prevailed when at odds.

Exactly my point.

[RAMPAGE0017]

Mike Tyson. Lost to every man that stood up to him. For all the physical strength and impressive repertoire never prevailed when at odds.


Come on.. you mean to tell me that the only fighters that have ever stood up to Tyson in his entire career is Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis, Williams, and McBride????

This is the most over-used misconception among boxing fans.

[sandwichsurgeon]

Rocky Marciano is overrated, don't get me wrong the guy was a warrior but a few sauna sessions and a time machine would see him up against B-Hop in this day and age.

Lennox Lewis is underrated basically because he was so consistent in his career in that he destroyed many of the best fighters in his era (while others ducked him blatantly) and yet because he walked on to a punch while things were picking up for him, then later got KO'd when he was unmotivated it becomes the focal point of his career? Fuck off.

Tyson is waaay overrated by the mainstream and as a consequence of that the hardcore boxing fans underrate him.

Cotto is overrated like crazy ever since he beat an inactive guy that failed everytime he stepped up, Zab is overrated because of what he almost did everytime he stepped up.

Hatton is underrated because he won a close decision in the worst performance of his career and it is now viewed as his definative performance by the naysayers e.g. "well if Collazo rocked him (despite how fleeting that moment was) then anyone can do it" and "oh Hatton hates slick boxers look at the Collazo fight" are pretty shallow arguments considering debates are supposed to be based around a multitude of incidences in a boxers career not just one fight (which he won anyway).

Oh and the Klits are overrated because one won 4 rounds out of 6 against a retiring Lewis before it got stopped because his face was hanging off, the fact that Lewis' timing and power was coming into play more and more as the fight progressed doesn't matter apparently.

[kg0208]

Overated- Vitali Klitschko

Underrated- Antonio Tarver

There is an entire thread looking for you.

[Thread Stealer]

Overated- Vitali Klitschko

Underrated- Antonio Tarver

1 out of 2 ain't bad.

Well, I guess you already know that, being a Tarver fan and all.

[Smazz20]

Overrated. Tarver

Nuff said

[Bazooka]

Overrated. Tarver

Nuff said

I dont think Tarver is over rated, he did beat jones IMO all three times when they fought, if you say he is over rated Hopkins win over him is meaningless and I wont take that credit away from a well proven fighter like Hopkins

[Bazooka]

James Toney as a HW now we have something!!! that mother fucker is over rated, has had how many shots at the title only to turn up positive for the roids a second time, when will his fans learn that he was doing this shit for years.

[BaronBrad]

Just fast guess:

Lewis - overrated
Vitaly - underrated

?


Crazy. I bet you think Vitali should have been able to continue their fight and would have probably won :yikes

My picks (which probably are no better than then ones above:

Overrated: Pacman
Underrated: Calzaghe

Pacman I hear you say. I think he is an exciting quality fighter but I think he is similar to Naseem Hamed in that any quality boxer would be able to out box him.

Will be interesting to see where Calzaghe will be rated in the P4P listing after the Kessler fight

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underrated: Gatti
Ovverated: Pacquiao

[Smazz20]

I dont think Tarver is over rated, he did beat jones IMO all three times when they fought, if you say he is over rated Hopkins win over him is meaningless and I wont take that credit away from a well proven fighter like Hopkins

Hopkins had a good win. But regardless of that, Tarver beat a shot Jones. I suppose though. No one ever called him the greatest LH (maybe he did himself a couple of times:D ) of all time. So overrated maybe a bit harsh.

But I still hate the cunt. He needs to learn a bit more humility.

[Shake]

Underrated -- I'd go for Larry Holmes.

Overrated -- Marciano.

[ChampionsForever]

The most underrated heavyweight of all time Is Joe Frazier if you ask me, bar George Foreman nobody would have taken him out with ease on hes day, he had a chance with all of them yet hes always left out of the top 8 lists where as guys like Jack Johnson and Sonny Liston dont :huh

[JoeyP]

Overated- Vitali Klitschko

Underrated- Antonio Tarver



Dipper--

Still waiting for you to post your round by round RJJ vs Tarver 1 scorecard.

[Smith]

In what sense?

Sorry long reply, forgot about thread. I don't mean he wasnt a great fighter, one of the best in fact, but a lot of people put him in the top 3 fighters of all time, i can't agree with this. If he was a quiet man, he would have been a top 15 P4P, but he wasn't, i feel his persoanlity carries a bit of his legacy nowadays

[BigReg]

Overrated - Hatton, Calzaghe

Underrated - Kessler

[brooklyn1550]

NOW
Overrated: Jermain Taylor, Edwin Valero
Underrated: Arthur Abraham, Ivan Calderon, Ricky Hatton

[PolishPummler]

Overrated-Bowe
Underrated-Virgil Hill

[johnco]

[quote=BaronBrad]Crazy. I bet you think Vitali should have been able to continue their fight and would have probably won :yikes

My picks (which probably are no better than then ones above:

Underrated: Calzaghe :-(

Pacman I hear you say. :blood I think he is an exciting quality fighter but I think he is similar to Naseem Hamed in that any quality boxer would be able to out box him.

what a peaby.... how dare you say pac the most overrated. :-(
1. pac came from 106 and eversince he was whooping everyones ass. not just an ordinary ass but pound per pound asses from 106 to 130.
2. tkod ledwaba into SUBMISSION i cannot remember how many kos??
3.prime MAB that whooped prince KISSED the canvass and put into submission with the white flag thrown. (MAB WENT DOWN OFFICIALLY 2X) BUT it should be 3 x if not for the mistaken call.
3. jmm kissed the canvass 3 times. (and mind you pac fought with an INFLAMED LEFT fist after the 1st round that is why jmm was not put into the graved. :yep
4. pac-em I of course em won due to head butt. :hey
5. em pac II. em went down 2 x officially.... SUPPOSSED TO BE 4 EM just hold that damn fucking ropes 2 x. and the manner of beating was sumission.
6. em pac III em went down for good 2 x? officially. again, another beatdown.
7. solis (1 tko) velasquez ( 1 tko) i cant count anymore too many ko tkos.

so brother, so we are talking about a guy here from 106 whooping the asses of the greats... and mind you, it is so mind boggling to hear that JMM, MAB, EM kissed the canvass for a total of 10 or so (i cannnot count it is too many) courtesy of a guy coming from 106 :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

[hellblazer]

PBF- Overrated
PacMan - Underrated

[lefthook31]

Mike Tyson. Lost to every man that stood up to him. For all the physical strength and impressive repertoire never prevailed when at odds.

Your kidding right?? You must be speaking of the post prision Tyson. Have you seen him fight in the 80's? You mean Larry Holmes, Tony Tubbs, Trevor Berbick, Razor Ruddock, and Pinklon Thomas, and Ribalta, never fought to win?? Maybe go rent those fights, and see what kind of fighter he was when he was still interested in being a fighter and not a celebrity.

[CASH_718]

Exactly my point.So if I stand up to Tyson I'll beat him??? Just like Ruddock, Bruno in there first fight, Tucker, Thomas, Tubbs, Botha ect ect did???

[Thread Stealer]

So if I stand up to Tyson I'll beat him??? Just like Ruddock, Bruno in there first fight, Tucker, Thomas, Tubbs, Botha ect ect did???

You missed the point of the posts I quoted.

He was one of the people who underrate Tyson.

[koki_kameda]

Koki Kameda

[Bummy Davis]

Underated ...Marciano

Overated...Holmes

[Pimp C]

Overrated Antonio Margarito

Underrated Ricardo Lopez & Terry Norris

[Illmatic]

Underrated: Manuel Medina
Naseem Hamed
Paulie Ayala
Michael Spinks
Wilfred Vazquez
Darius Michelchezki
John Ruiz
Fabrice Tiozzo

Overrated: Larry Holmes
Arron Pryor
Kostya Tszyu
JACK FUCKING DEMPSEY*******


in my humble opinion