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headhunter
03-20-2008, 02:02 PM
At 190 ?
BigReg
03-20-2008, 02:04 PM
Cunningham. I really don't know about Calzaghe's speed, stamina, or chin at 190. I would assume Cunningham would beat him senseless.
robpalmer135
03-20-2008, 02:06 PM
Calzaghe all day. Cunningham is so average its unreal
Shaolin Box
03-20-2008, 02:07 PM
If JC could carry his speed he'd tear Cunningham up
BigReg
03-20-2008, 02:09 PM
If Calzaghe is so good and is able to carry these skills to 190; then why has he been spending the last 10 years or so struggling to make 168 just to fight bums? How come he never moved to LHW?
greengloves
03-20-2008, 02:10 PM
calzaghe's movement would nullify everything he has to offer and would box his way to a UD.
headhunter
03-20-2008, 02:11 PM
Cunningham. I really don't know about Calzaghe's speed, stamina, or chin at 190. I would assume Cunningham would beat him senseless.
Yes probably Cunningham ,but I've always wondered how Calzaghe would get on if he fought at the weight he walks around at.I think it would be a good fight.
Pimp C
03-20-2008, 02:11 PM
USS would rip Calzaghe a new one far too big.
LeedsLad
03-20-2008, 02:13 PM
Calzaghe doesnt have the frame to carry 190lbs and beat Cunningham. He'd be a top 10 Cruiserweight at best IMO.
Caper
03-20-2008, 02:19 PM
Calzaghe doesnt have the frame to carry 190lbs and beat Cunningham. He'd be a top 10 Cruiserweight at best IMO.
Christ that's an excellent post.
RonnieHornschuh
03-20-2008, 02:30 PM
cunningham for sure. calzaghe is kinda smallish even by smw standards. i've seen his tale of the tape (chest, wrists, biceps), he is considerably smaller than me and i could easily make smw (i'm not a boxer though). cunningham has muscles that i didn't know they exist.
dwilson
03-20-2008, 02:33 PM
Cunningham is well muscled but an average boxer with serious limitations.
All this talk of him beating people is hilarious.
BigReg
03-20-2008, 02:34 PM
Cunningham is well muscled but an average boxer with serious limitations.
All this talk of him beating people is hilarious.
What are his serious limitations?
Bodysnatcher
03-20-2008, 02:38 PM
Cunningham is too big.
But I remember everyone talking about Lacy beating Calzaghe and saying things like `just look at their respective physiques...it's obvious who's gonnas win`.
dwilson
03-20-2008, 02:39 PM
What are his serious limitations?
It would be easier to list what are not his limitations.
RonnieHornschuh
03-20-2008, 02:39 PM
cunningham is very well schooled, good counterpunching, great stamina, decent power. hard to imagine he owns a pizza place and still looks that ripped!
Calzaghe doesnt have the frame to carry 190lbs and beat Cunningham. He'd be a top 10 Cruiserweight at best IMO.
Fully agree, Cunningham is an elite, top 2 cruiserweight.
Too big, and with too much skill for such a big man, for Calzaghe to handle.
safe_pa
03-20-2008, 02:49 PM
A good big man beats a good little man, although Flloyd did beat Oscar :huh.
I'd still pick USS to win though.
BigReg
03-20-2008, 03:03 PM
It would be easier to list what are not his limitations.
How about you just list 3 serious limitations
headhunter
03-20-2008, 03:16 PM
this is a dumb thread to make clazaghe look bad. and no i dont think he'd win against this cunnigham guy. take mayweather for example. the best boxer in the world if he goes up 2 weights to middle weight he'd get whooped and most likely even stopped, simply cuz he's too small. same with JC. frame is too small and crusier power is too much.
I didn't make this thread to make Calzaghe look bad.I'm Calzaghe fan.:patsch
Amsterdam
03-20-2008, 03:22 PM
Cunningham. I really don't know about Calzaghe's speed, stamina, or chin at 190. I would assume Cunningham would beat him senseless.
Calzaghe should apologise to you for not being an african american.
Amsterdam
03-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Fully agree, Cunningham is an elite, top 2 cruiserweight.
Too big, and with too much skill for such a big man, for Calzaghe to handle.
Cunningham an elite fighter?:lol:
He's good, but he's far from what I'd call elite. And I fully agree he's too big for Calzaghe, that's obvious.
headhunter
03-20-2008, 03:35 PM
my bad. i thought u were one of them typical people. u know calzaghe can't beat terminator etc lol:good
Its ok :good
BigReg
03-20-2008, 03:38 PM
Calzaghe should apologise to you for not being an african american.
What the hell are you talking about?:huh
Cunningham an elite fighter?:lol:
He's good, but he's far from what I'd call elite. And I fully agree he's too big for Calzaghe, that's obvious.
Clearly I wrote he was an elite Cruiserweight. I don't think there is a single Cruiser in the top 10 that matches up with USS skill-wise.
200 lb men aren't going to look like PBF in the ring.
headhunter
03-20-2008, 03:42 PM
Cunningham an elite fighter?:lol:
He's good, but he's far from what I'd call elite. And I fully agree he's too big for Calzaghe, that's obvious.
Although I'd make Cunningham favorite.If Calzaghes chin holds up at the weight It would be a very winable fight IMHO.
Rock0052
03-20-2008, 05:43 PM
Although I'd make Cunningham favorite.If Calzaghes chin holds up at the weight It would be a very winable fight IMHO.
:good
Amsterdam
03-20-2008, 05:49 PM
Clearly I wrote he was an elite Cruiserweight. I don't think there is a single Cruiser in the top 10 that matches up with USS skill-wise.
200 lb men aren't going to look like PBF in the ring.
I find him very beatable. Mormeck for instance, if he fights again, should be able to beat him.
Bell also.
drvooh
03-20-2008, 10:29 PM
If Calzaghe is so good and is able to carry these skills to 190; then why has he been spending the last 10 years or so struggling to make 168 just to fight bums? How come he never moved to LHW? they were only labled " bums " after he beat them all
BigReg
03-20-2008, 10:35 PM
they were only labled " bums " after he beat them all
Ok. If Calzaghe is so good and can carry his skills to 190, then why did he spend 10 years or so defending his WBO belt in a mediocre division instead of going to LHW?
Amsterdam
03-20-2008, 10:40 PM
Ok. If Calzaghe is so good and can carry his skills to 190, then why did he spend 10 years or so defending his WBO belt in a mediocre division instead of going to LHW?
He can go to 175 MAX, don't listen to anybody who suggests otherwise.
Even so, Cunningham is still a generic fighter who's nothing special, I admire his will to travel around and fight in other people's backyards, but he's very beatable, even at the poor Cruiserweight division.
Haye would KTFO Cunningham early.
Mormeck would either KO him mid rounds, or win a wide UD
Bell would KO him
I think he'd beat Adamek, by late stoppage.
I think he'd UD Ding.
There's 2 more I'd pick over him, can't think of them.
BigReg
03-20-2008, 10:49 PM
He can go to 175 MAX, don't listen to anybody who suggests otherwise.
I agree. I think he can be an effective LHW. I just can't see him being the same fighter at 190
Even so, Cunningham is still a generic fighter who's nothing special, I admire his will to travel around and fight in other people's backyards, but he's very beatable, even at the poor Cruiserweight division.
I somewhat agree. He doesn't do anything great, but he's very solid all around. I think he has good speed for a CW though. I like his body work as well
Haye would KTFO Cunningham early.
I disagree, but I'm biased.
Mormeck would either KO him mid rounds, or win a wide UD
I think Mormeck is done.
Bell would KO him
I disagree. He had his chance to fight Cunningham though. He passed on it, was stripped of his belt, and sat idle for 15 months because of an alleged toothache. If he beats Adamek, he'll get another chance
I think he'd beat Adamek, by late stoppage.
I haven't seen Adamek at cruiser yet.
I think he'd UD Ding.
I agree. I like Ding, but I don't see him getting past Cunningham at this point in his career.
There's 2 more I'd pick over him, can't think of them
Well, Wlodzarcyck already beat him in a close fight. I don't know who else you could be refering to that would beat Cunningham.
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