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jlrivera81
03-20-2008, 08:26 PM
I'm a huge Cotto fan and I notice a lot of people saying that Cotto is afraid of FLoyd. Most people know that is not the case.

However, it does make sense that Bob is nervous about putting Cotto in the ring with him. think about. Bob offered Floyd 8 million to fight Margarito. He did b/c he knows if Margarito lost, it wouldnt hurt him b/c of all of margarito's prior losses. However, you dont see Bob throwing around offers for Floyd to fight Cotto.

He keeps wanting Cotto to fight Margarito for some odd reason. The reason is that he knows Cotto is better than Margarito so he does not fear Cotto losing his undefeated record against Tony.

If he was 100% confident that Cotto could beat Floyd, he wouldnt or at least shouldnt be concerned with offering Floyd money.

the only reason outside of that not to offer money is his dislike for floyd.

fitzgeraldz
03-20-2008, 08:27 PM
Hey I agree its Arum ... he knows that Floyd has skill and can do the damn thing. He said on record that Floyd was the most talented fight of all his years in boxing ... the closest to that would be Ali --

Ali is the greatest !!

I think Arum will get as much as he can get out of Cotto before building a fight between PBF.

Nestea
03-20-2008, 08:27 PM
Cotto just need to get the confidence of Arum, It's not like Arum is scared, He is sometimes a wise man. He knows when to fight and whom to fight.
That's boxing politics my friend.

jlrivera81
03-20-2008, 08:41 PM
Dont you think Cotto has Arum's confidence already.

Arriba
03-20-2008, 08:44 PM
Noone is afraid of anyone. Arum and Floyd knows the money is in the chase.

Cotto chases Floyd, builds a name...Floyd stays where he is....showdown in a year or two.

Money is in the wait.

Nestea
03-20-2008, 08:44 PM
He has but he needs to beat someone who fans think can stand up to floyd.

jlrivera81
03-20-2008, 08:51 PM
You're starting to see the light my friend. Arum and Team Cotto know what's up when it comes to Floyd.:good

I will agree as long as you dont think Cotto himself is afraid.

tis4u2envy
03-20-2008, 09:26 PM
He has but he needs to beat someone who fans think can stand up to floyd.

I guess Mosley can't stand up to Floyd? WTF :patsch

Oscar de la Roa
03-20-2008, 09:36 PM
I was thinking...who is more valuable for arum...cotto or pacman?

Nestea
03-20-2008, 09:37 PM
My thought Pacquiao is more valuable at the moment for Arum, He just got tons of cash on Pacquiao fights.

T.C.W
03-20-2008, 09:40 PM
I can't see this happening now because there is no way that Mayweather and Arum will do business togeather at this stage.

There is talk of money being owned and court case so that is pretty much out of the question going forward which is not god ffor the fans.

Alo2006
03-20-2008, 09:40 PM
I said this a while ago, Arum is holding back Cotto from Mayweather. I believe Cotto want to fight, but Arum is afraid of him losing.

compukiller
03-20-2008, 10:07 PM
I said this a while ago, Arum is holding back Cotto from Mayweather. I believe Cotto want to fight, but Arum is afraid of him losing.


:thumbsup

C Money
03-20-2008, 10:37 PM
I'm a huge Cotto fan and I notice a lot of people saying that Cotto is afraid of FLoyd. Most people know that is not the case.

However, it does make sense that Bob is nervous about putting Cotto in the ring with him. think about. Bob offered Floyd 8 million to fight Margarito. He did b/c he knows if Margarito lost, it wouldnt hurt him b/c of all of margarito's prior losses. However, you dont see Bob throwing around offers for Floyd to fight Cotto.

He keeps wanting Cotto to fight Margarito for some odd reason. The reason is that he knows Cotto is better than Margarito so he does not fear Cotto losing his undefeated record against Tony.

If he was 100% confident that Cotto could beat Floyd, he wouldnt or at least shouldnt be concerned with offering Floyd money.

the only reason outside of that not to offer money is his dislike for floyd.

BS:yep

Cotto vs Margarito? Yeah Arum promotes BOTH=MORE $$$$$

Floyd AINT AROUND 4 ANYONE EXCEPT DLH, how the fuck is it supposed to happen? COtto has said he wants Floyd. Floyd says he won let the sport retire him, he'll retire from the sport. "I need a year off"

Cotto's continuing his career while Floyd wrestles Big Show, fights DLH, and talks MMA. Its clear BUSINESS SENSE. We already know who has the better 147 resume and who is THE #1 Contender:yep

Floyd's running the same play as usual. CHERRY PICKING:good

Zaryu
03-20-2008, 11:30 PM
Arum cant be 100% sure that Cotto would stay undefeated by fighting Margarito, and if Cotto were to lose, why not lose to the p4pchamp, and later say he ran or try and put Floyd down by saying he didnt give the fans the fight they wanted and boxed,etc... get the point? I dont think Arum, or anyone in Team Cotto is, or should be afraid of a fight with Foyd, after all, other tha DLH, Money May is the one that will bring the big money to Cotto and Arum, so the ball is on Floyd's turf>Arum has already said on another site why he hasnt made Floyd an offer, and it is because 1-Floyd has other fights planned for the rest of the year, and 2-he has also dismissed all questions about fighting Cotto, where as with Margarito it was Arum's first time trying to lure in Floyd to fight his fighter for a lot of money, which he later admitted it didnt work which is why hasnt tried it with Cotto

Farmboxer
03-21-2008, 02:11 AM
I think Arum has nothing to be scared of from Void Mayweather. Cotto would out work Void. Void also refused to fight Margarito. Margarito beat Williams, but judges were one again criminals. Why didn't Williams give Margarito a rematch? Yet Williams is getting one from Quintana. Why is that?

Longhhorn71
03-21-2008, 02:19 AM
I think Arum has nothing to be scared of from Void Mayweather. Cotto would out work Void. Void also refused to fight Margarito. Margarito beat Williams, but judges were one again criminals. Why didn't Williams give Margarito a rematch? Yet Williams is getting one from Quintana. Why is that?

To me Floyd has peaked. Cotto is only going to get better.

Back in the early 70's Joe Frazier got disrespected too, then come fight night, Ali found out he had created a monster that was in the other corner wanting to rip him apart.

PBF would be best to fight Cotto now.

Tencount85
03-21-2008, 02:22 AM
I think he may fight him after the De La Hoya fight. There isn't anyone else around really that has a name that will bring in the cash. That's probably why didn't fight him yet..wanted to secure the second fight with De La Hoya since he'll get paid a shit load. His earnings would go down if he was to fight Cotto, somehow lose and then challenge Oscar again.

psychopath
03-21-2008, 02:58 AM
I'm a huge Cotto fan and I notice a lot of people saying that Cotto is afraid of FLoyd. Most people know that is not the case.

However, it does make sense that Bob is nervous about putting Cotto in the ring with him. think about. Bob offered Floyd 8 million to fight Margarito. He did b/c he knows if Margarito lost, it wouldnt hurt him b/c of all of margarito's prior losses. However, you dont see Bob throwing around offers for Floyd to fight Cotto.

He keeps wanting Cotto to fight Margarito for some odd reason. The reason is that he knows Cotto is better than Margarito so he does not fear Cotto losing his undefeated record against Tony.

If he was 100% confident that Cotto could beat Floyd, he wouldnt or at least shouldnt be concerned with offering Floyd money.

the only reason outside of that not to offer money is his dislike for floyd.

Arum afraid? Yes most likely.:yep

If you're a promoter . . . will you not be afraid to lose your "goose that lays the golden egg?"

:rofl :rofl :rofl

1lehudson
03-21-2008, 04:34 AM
I think Arum has nothing to be scared of from Void Mayweather. Cotto would out work Void. Void also refused to fight Margarito. Margarito beat Williams, but judges were one again criminals. Why didn't Williams give Margarito a rematch? Yet Williams is getting one from Quintana. Why is that?Wow!! once again you have enlighted us with your wisdom:roll:

1lehudson
03-21-2008, 04:39 AM
BS:yep

Cotto vs Margarito? Yeah Arum promotes BOTH=MORE $$$$$

Floyd AINT AROUND 4 ANYONE EXCEPT DLH, how the fuck is it supposed to happen? COtto has said he wants Floyd. Floyd says he won let the sport retire him, he'll retire from the sport. "I need a year off"

Cotto's continuing his career while Floyd wrestles Big Show, fights DLH, and talks MMA. Its clear BUSINESS SENSE. We already know who has the better 147 resume and who is THE #1 Contender:yep

Floyd's running the same play as usual. CHERRY PICKING:goodHMM, it seems like I heard this from you before.....Wait that is the same thing that you were saying about Floyd fighting Hatton..then once the fight was made you cried like a school girl that the fight wasnt at 140...Your just bitter as hell.

What will your excuse be after Floyd fights and beats Cotto?? And dont give me that crap bout "I would give him respect" Cuz you would then start cring about him not fighting someone eles. Just like you did after the fight with hatton was done.

KCD
03-21-2008, 04:52 AM
Cotto is the only fighter out there who can challenge Mayweather. Alot of people are coparing Hatton to Cotto but they are nothing alike. Granted they are pressure fighters, but both bring a completely different type of pressure.

Hattons pressure is to outwork and maul you whilst being quite reckless, whereas Cotto lets not forget is a very good boxer as well. Hatton made Mayweather look great in the fight he didnt jab his way is and he didnt throw punches at mid range to work his way in, but Cotto does this.

If the fight ever goes ahead Floyd should start favourite but i think Cotto has a legitamate chance to beat him. Cotto wont make it easy for Floyd.

Zhaakal
03-21-2008, 04:58 AM
Floyd would do the same to Cotto what he did to Ricky. Cotto hasn't got the chin to take it from Floyd. Floyd by TKO/KO in 11

1lehudson
03-21-2008, 04:59 AM
Cotto is the only fighter out there who can challenge Mayweather. Alot of people are coparing Hatton to Cotto but they are nothing alike. Granted they are pressure fighters, but both bring a completely different type of pressure.

Hattons pressure is to outwork and maul you whilst being quite reckless, whereas Cotto lets not forget is a very good boxer as well. Hatton made Mayweather look great in the fight he didnt jab his way is and he didnt throw punches at mid range to work his way in, but Cotto does this.

If the fight ever goes ahead Floyd should start favourite but i think Cotto has a legitamate chance to beat him. Cotto wont make it easy for Floyd.Cotto is too slow to beat Floyd. But your right Cotto and Hatton are nothing alike. Cotto is measured and he would make it abit harder for Floyd to counter him.

but i just think that he doesnt have the handspeed, and I will tell you this much, if he fights Floyd the way that he fought Old Shane he will get his a$$ handed to him, Chico style.

bigeddie27
03-21-2008, 10:24 AM
I think Arum will get as much as he can get out of Cotto before building a fight between PBF.
agreed - he will milk the cotto cow till the very absolute last drop he can the son of a bitch. All for this fucking stupid aura around a perfect '0' on a record.

And yes - floyd knocks him out.

CJLightweight
03-21-2008, 10:34 AM
I'm a huge Cotto fan and I notice a lot of people saying that Cotto is afraid of FLoyd. Most people know that is not the case.

However, it does make sense that Bob is nervous about putting Cotto in the ring with him. think about. Bob offered Floyd 8 million to fight Margarito. He did b/c he knows if Margarito lost, it wouldnt hurt him b/c of all of margarito's prior losses. However, you dont see Bob throwing around offers for Floyd to fight Cotto.

He keeps wanting Cotto to fight Margarito for some odd reason. The reason is that he knows Cotto is better than Margarito so he does not fear Cotto losing his undefeated record against Tony.

If he was 100% confident that Cotto could beat Floyd, he wouldnt or at least shouldnt be concerned with offering Floyd money.

the only reason outside of that not to offer money is his dislike for floyd.

i dont know about that, i think cotto even if he loses to floyd will still be a big draw like hatton

Caper
03-21-2008, 10:56 AM
Of course Aram is worried about Cotto chalking up a loss, my thing is Cotto will make a great fight of it. I still lean towards PBF if he where to fight Cotto but make no mistakes about it Cotto will combine his strength, determination and underrated skill that night and show many so called boxing experts that Cotto is the real deal.

Imperial1
03-21-2008, 11:03 AM
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard ..Arum has made several attempts to make the fight but ego's are the bigger obstacle !

I doubt Arum is scared of making more money especially the type of money that a Cotto Mayweather fight would generate ..

fitzgeraldz
03-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Can anyone say Trinidad v Hopkins?

That will be simular to this fight -- even though I think Floyd will take the advantage early and stop him mid rounds.

Relentless
03-21-2008, 11:06 AM
Floyd would do the same to Cotto what he did to Ricky. Cotto hasn't got the chin to take it from Floyd. Floyd by TKO/KO in 11

yes because we all know cotto lunges in with power shots right?

slap yourself cum ass.

Imperial1
03-21-2008, 11:07 AM
Can anyone say Trinidad v Hopkins?

That will be simular to this fight -- even though I think Floyd will take the advantage early and stop him mid rounds.

Horrible comparison!

Since when is Cotto as 1 dimensional as Tito ???????

Relentless
03-21-2008, 11:07 AM
Can anyone say Trinidad v Hopkins?

That will be simular to this fight -- even though I think Floyd will take the advantage early and stop him mid rounds.

hey white boy, suck my cock and call me uncle.

Relentless
03-21-2008, 11:08 AM
Shit post

he obviously has seen either of them fight before.

PH|LLA
03-21-2008, 11:09 AM
Noone is afraid of anyone. Arum and Floyd knows the money is in the chase.

Cotto chases Floyd, builds a name...Floyd stays where he is....showdown in a year or two.

Money is in the wait.
ding ding ding ding we have a winner

cfizzl3
03-21-2008, 11:09 AM
I'll bring some truth and a different perspective to the matter.

One, I think Mosley hits harder than Mayweather at any given weight at any time period. If he couldn't knock out Cotto, Floyd won't knock out Cotto.

Second, why wouldn't Arum offer Floyd money or call him out?
Well he's openly stated a 1 year hiatus. He then took a fight with De La Hoya who (and lets be honest) can actually beat Floyd if the Oscar of old comes back(high unlikely less than half of a %). So why push for a fight with Floyd in that matter? I say he wait until after the De La Hoya fight. Which means look for a fight in 2009.

Also, I don't think Arum is looking to keep that "0" intact on Cotto's record. He practically fed him to unknowns/undefeateds at 140 and then when he hits welterweight he's fighting Quintana(who MANY thought was a favourite), Judah, Mosley, etc. Also the match up with gomez is a "everything to lose, nothing to gain" fight for Cotto.

No discredit to Floyd. I for one think yes, he HAS the ability to be the best P4P. I think however, north of 140 he hasn't proven it.

Leonard fought Duran who was very effective at a lower weight and moved up. He lost once, won twice. This can be compared to Hatton as he was extremely effective at 140 moved up and Mayweather beat.

Now where the two careers differ is that Leonard fought MONSTERS in Tommy Hearns, Hagler, etc.

If you tell me that Judah, or the human chin Baldomir are comparable in terms of division dominance to Hearns. I'd love to respond by slapping the taste out of your mouth and sending you back with a " IM ****ING RETARDED " sticker pasted to your forehead.:rofl

Caper
03-21-2008, 11:13 AM
Can anyone say Trinidad v Hopkins?

That will be simular to this fight -- even though I think Floyd will take the advantage early and stop him mid rounds.

OMG! :verysad

Well at least your not pushing for a career as a boxing analyst.

Caper
03-21-2008, 11:15 AM
I'll bring some truth and a different perspective to the matter.

One, I think Mosley hits harder than Mayweather at any given weight at any time period. If he couldn't knock out Cotto, Floyd won't knock out Cotto.

Second, why wouldn't Arum offer Floyd money or call him out?
Well he's openly stated a 1 year hiatus. He then took a fight with De La Hoya who (and lets be honest) can actually beat Floyd if the Oscar of old comes back(high unlikely less than half of a %). So why push for a fight with Floyd in that matter? I say he wait until after the De La Hoya fight. Which means look for a fight in 2009.

Also, I don't think Arum is looking to keep that "0" intact on Cotto's record. He practically fed him to unknowns/undefeateds and 140 and then when he hits welterweight he's fighting Quintana(who MANY thought was a favourite), Judah, Mosley, etc. Also the match up with gomez is a "everything to lose, nothing to gain" fight for Cotto.

No discredit to Floyd. I for one think yes, he HAS the ability to be the best P4P. I think however, north of 140 he hasn't proven it.

Leonard fought Duran who was very effective at a lower weight and moved up. He lost once, won twice. This can be compared to Hatton as he was extremely effective at 140 moved up and Mayweather beat.

Now where the two careers differ is that Leonard fought MONSTERS in Tommy Hearns, Hagler, etc.

If you tell me that Judah, or the human chin Baldomir are comparable in terms of division dominance to Hearns. I'd love to respond by slapping the taste out of your mouth and sending you back with a " IM ****ING RETARDED " sticker pasted to your forehead.:rofl

:lol:

Good post.

Brian123
03-21-2008, 03:48 PM
Yeah, Cotto and Arum is afraid of all that power (5K0's) Mayrunner has!