Andy Lee tonight?

[dwilson]

Is Andy Lee fighting tonight against Brian Vera? And is it being shown on TV? They sometimes put the Irish fighters on some of the obscure channels.


This could be a good test for Andy. Vera comes with a decent record of 15-1-0 with his loss coming in the contender series. He looked way too short to be in that show at super middle. Lee will prob come out a stoppage victor but I hope Vera gives him a few back.

[nufc16]

wouldnt be surprised if its on one of the regional bbc channels.

[Big Ears]

wouldnt be surprised if its on one of the regional bbc channels.

doubt it , BBC Northern Ireland cover Duddy because he's Northern Irish , Lee is from the Republic so they wouldn't show him and I doubt BBC Wales/Scotland etc will so this won't be shown by the BBC .

Although I did hear 5 will broadcast it , which isn't much surprise as I believe they normally show ESPN fights(delayed of course) .

[Healy]

any updates lads? it on anywhere?

[Big Ears]

any updates lads? it on anywhere?

There's a ******* link as far as I'm aware .

[Healy]

Cheers..

If you get it gimme a PM;)

[GazOC]

He looked awful.

[stuey]

thats a huge upset...

so long as he learns from it though...

[SleazeNation]

I'm really glad I'm not Irish.
They had 3 unbeaten guys that they were really excited about 6 months ago...
Dunne and Lee both stopped, and Duddy looks like total sh*t... and all against 3 average opponents :lol:
That's pretty bad. But funny.

[brown bomber]

We've still got Macklin. Dunne got caught cold. Duddy had a shit night but looked sensational against Yori Boy... Jamie Moore is still British champion. Good times for Ireland.

[SleazeNation]

:lol:

[dwilson]

We've still got Macklin. Dunne got caught cold. Duddy had a shit night but looked sensational against Yori Boy... Jamie Moore is still British champion. Good times for Ireland.


Yep people always seem to forget Moore. I hope he gets his chances this year, I would seriously rate his chances ahgainst Spinks.

Macklin should beat Yori and I would love to see a match up against Duddy, that would be a great all Ireland shiwdown between two guys who can give the fans a great fight.

[SleazeNation]

err, Maklin's a Brummie. And Jamie Moore's a Manc?!?!?

:huh

[dwilson]

err, Maklin's a Brummie. And Jamie Moore's a Manc?!?!?

:huh

And God is a scouse.

[brown bomber]

err, Maklin's a Brummie. And Jamie Moore's a Manc?!?!?

:huh And their part Irish! Moore and Macklin??? The surnames not a bit of a givaway?:roll:

[Healy]

We still have some fighters

Lee isnt done yet, just needs to train hard, get a gameplan for each fight and stick to it...

Duddy will battle on

Dunne may well be done though

Macklin is European level but exciting all the same

Cant wait for him v Jori Boy tonight

[SleazeNation]

And their part Irish! Moore and Macklin??? The surnames not a bit of a givaway?:roll:
:lol: You'll take anything.
They're not Irish, one is from Birmingham (not in Ireland) and the other from Manchester (not in Ireland).
But I think I did see Jamie Moore eating a potato once.
:happy He qualifies as an Irish!!!! :happy

[Healy]

Macklin claims to be Irish much like Michael Gomez

I always like both Moore and Macklin and thei fight was brutal stuff to watch for me anyways

[brown bomber]

:lol: You'll take anything.
They're not Irish, one is from Birmingham (not in Ireland) and the other from Manchester (not in Ireland).
But I think I did see Jamie Moore eating a potato once.
:happy He qualifies as an Irish!!!! :happy So Amir Khan is not ****stani and Naseem Hamed is not Yemeni? Moore and Macklin are both of Irish decent you retard.

[SleazeNation]

No they're not, they're English. One is from Sheffield (in England) the other is from Bolton (in England).
You practice and you'll get the hang of it. English is anywhere in England. Irish is anywhere in Ireland.

[brown bomber]

No they're not, they're English. One is from Sheffield (in England) the other is from Bolton (in England).
You practice and you'll get the hang of it. English is anywhere in England. Irish is anywhere in Ireland.They live in England but their family and heritage is from another country.

[kurt2006]

They live in England but their family and heritage is from another country.

So they are english but of irish origin, ****stani origin or yemani origin :huh

so a white anglo saxon protestant would be english of anglo saxon origin ?

[brown bomber]

So they are english but of irish origin, ****stani origin or yemani origin :huh

so a white anglo saxon protestant would be english of anglo saxon origin ? yes.

[SleazeNation]

They live in England but their family and heritage is from another country.
So you're saying Macklin's mum is Irish. I'll give you that.
I thought you were talking about Matthew Macklin himself. We're obviously talking about different family members.
I was talking about the boxers, Matthew Macklin and Jamie Moore. They're English.

[brown bomber]

So you're saying Macklin's mum is Irish. I'll give you that.
I thought you were talking about Matthew Macklin himself. We're obviously talking about different family members.
I was talking about the boxers, Matthew Macklin and Jamie Moore. They're English. What makes them english?

[SleazeNation]

Being born in England, living their whole lives in England. You know, the usual specifications of being a nationality.
:patsch

[brown bomber]

Being born in England, living their whole lives in England. You know, the usual specifications of being a nationality.
:patsch So what nationality is Lennox Lewis? Alex Stewart? Henry Akinwande?

[faisal]

that slip should have been a knock down in the 12th

[SleazeNation]

I know nothing about Alex Stewart, don't even know who he is.

My knowledge of Lennox...
he was born in England and lived there for a few years, moved to Canada, then lived mainly in America.
So he's split over different places, in this case you'd have to respect what the man says... as far as I'm aware he says he's English.

And I'm not an expert on Henry Akinwande
Was born in Africa somewhere I think, don't know when he moved to England, don't know what he claims he is...

But in those two cases you have some amount of split nationalities, with Macklin and Moore there is no if's or but's... They're English boys, born and bred.

[nufc16]

has moore ever said anything about his irish heritage? i know macklin has, but never heard of moore mentioning it much.

[dwilson]

Being born in England, living their whole lives in England. You know, the usual specifications of being a nationality.
:patsch


Yep "send the buggers back" I say. :hey

[Big Ears]

Being born in England, living their whole lives in England. You know, the usual specifications of being a nationality.
:patsch

Actually Macklin didn't live his whole life in England , he would normally spend 3 months+ a year in Ireland and has 2 Irish parents not one .

So while Moore is definitely English , the same can't really be said of Macklin .

[brown bomber]

Moore's grandmother is Irish and he was in the Irish ratings.

[SleazeNation]

Actually Macklin didn't live his whole life in England , he would normally spend 3 months+ a year in Ireland and has 2 Irish parents not one .

So while Moore is definitely English , the same can't really be said of Macklin.
I've heard Macklin talk, a lot, and he's got a Brummie accent. I find it hard to believe he's spent any time in Ireland growing up. No signs of it as far as I can tell...

And, again, I'm talking about the fighter - not his mum and dad, they're not throwing the punches. Macklin is a Brummie.

[brown bomber]

By birthright they cn fight for the irish title... They are proudly in the Irish ratings and they have irish surnames... your retarded.

[slapbangwhallop]

I've heard Macklin talk, a lot, and he's got a Brummie accent. I find it hard to believe he's spent any time in Ireland growing up. No signs of it as far as I can tell...

And, again, I'm talking about the fighter - not his mum and dad, they're not throwing the punches. Macklin is a Brummie.

the guy spent all his summers in County Tipperary and Lee spent his in Limerick. As a junior Macklin played county level hurling for County Tipperary - not exactly an achievement attained by your usual boy from Perry Bar/Hall Green etc

(you may note my geographical knowledge of Brum stems from dog tracks!)

[slapbangwhallop]

has moore ever said anything about his irish heritage? i know macklin has, but never heard of moore mentioning it much.

exactly - I've never heard Moore mention he was Irish or considered himself to be Irish.

As for Macklin - he considers himself Irish, poosibly holds an Irish passport.

It not Irish people "claiming" them - its about them claiming to be Irish - and as far as I am concerned if you wernt born in Ireland but have Irish blood and say you are Irish - then you are Irish - its a diaspora thing - some might not get, but they are probably either young Irish people that have never even lived abroad or the are BNP type Brits that cant handle anyone (especially a white guy) thats doesnt identify their nationality along the same lines as they do.

Anyway - enough politics and bullshit - lets talk boxing!

[SleazeNation]

the guy spent all his summers in County Tipperary and Lee spent his in Limerick. As a junior Macklin played county level hurling for County Tipperary - not exactly an achievement attained by your usual boy from Perry Bar/Hall Green etc

(you may note my geographical knowledge of Brum stems from dog tracks!)
What you're saying is Macklin spent his holidays in Ireland? :rofl Brilliant. So I'm Spanish then.

All I know is he was English until he lost his fight for the English light middleweight title, so he had to settle for the Irish title...
he obviously thinks anything's better than nothing.:patsch

Irish will take anything, if you're an English loser... get some green trunks and get over there... :lol:

[slapbangwhallop]

What you're saying is Macklin spent his holidays in Ireland? :rofl Brilliant. So I'm Spanish then.

All I know is he was English until he lost his fight for the English light middleweight title, so he had to settle for the Irish title...
he obviously thinks anything's better than nothing.:patsch

Irish will take anything, if you're an English loser... get some green trunks and get over there... :lol:

Yeah right!

It's a bit different you and your chav slag mother going to Benidorm for a week so she could get pissed and fucked (note no Dad!) and Macklin and his brothers to being sent "home" to live with couisins for the duration of his holidays!

Like I said he considers himself Irish and playe county level hurling as a kid - he did pick that up in Brum!

I wont be responding a BNP prick like you again

[SleazeNation]

:-(
I don't think that's very fair.

[brown bomber]

Yeah right!

It's a bit different you and your chav slag mother going to Benidorm for a week so she could get pissed and fucked (note no Dad!) and Macklin and his brothers to being sent "home" to live with couisins for the duration of his holidays!

Like I said he considers himself Irish and playe county level hurling as a kid - he did pick that up in Brum!

I wont be responding a BNP prick like you again:lol: Think its perhaps time to stop making a muppet of yourself Sleaze. You have been owned.

[SleazeNation]

:lol: Think its perhaps time to stop making a muppet of yourself Sleaze. You have been owned.
No, I haven't. I'm just not going to insult anyone on here that I don't know. I'm keeping it on Macklin, and what I've said is true. :roll:

[brown bomber]

You've insulted a whole country. :-(

[SleazeNation]

You've insulted a whole country. :-(
Macklin lost fighting for the English title, and Ireland have taken him as their new hope because all the actual Irish guys are losing... that's the facts, and that's what I've said.

[brown bomber]

Macklin lost fighting for the English title, and Ireland have taken him as their new hope because all the actual Irish guys are losing... that's the facts, and that's what I've said. Thats not a fact its a opinion and an idiotic one at that.. Your references to potatoes and statement that the Irish will 'have anything' have already devalued anything you have to say.

[brown bomber]

Andy Lee got KTFO. really?

[SleazeNation]

:lol: That's funny, I'd actually forgot what started this debate... Andy Lee got smashed. It is sad though.

[brown bomber]

Yup.

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As you can see by the name "Vera" on his trunks, Brian Vera is in the process of knocking poor Andy senseless.

Another prospect exposed. Gr8. And what?

[Healy]

Lee didnt get KTFO OR smashed

You can say he was hut but was a bad stoppage

I come to the Brit forum to get useful info and good decent debate and sensible talke but it seems a few muppets are ruining it and turning it into the General style forum

[slapbangwhallop]

Lee didnt get KTFO OR smashed

You can say he was hut but was a bad stoppage

I come to the Brit forum to get useful info and good decent debate and sensible talke but it seems a few muppets are ruining it and turning it into the General style forum

chill Healy - SleazeNation has 74 posts!!! dont pass any heed!

[jamel]

Having seen Duddy v Smichet, Andy Lee's last 3 bouts, and Macklin v Campas.
None of these deserve to be champions. Duddy has little to no skill, slightly better than a punch bag. Andy Lee does not know how to fight in close or tie up and opponent, Macklin is just plain ordinary. It will have to be a very poor middleweight division for any of these to become champions !!!

[SleazeNation]

That's true, you'd at least think they'd try and claim Haye or someone worthwhile.

[Club Fighter]

For those who haven't seen, you might as well watch . . .

AwOGf8Ti1A4

No doubt Lee was on the road to gettin' his block knocked clean off!

[SleazeNation]

It's like watching Duddy

[slapbangwhallop]

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[Healy]

Macklin and Duddy look similiar, anyone else think that?

[Big Ears]

Darren Sutherland will make a very good pro middleweight in the near future .
The Olympics(should he make it there) will be his last involvement as an amateur and I think his style will be perfect for the pro game .

I could see him getting to European level at least .

So while all of Duddy , Macklin , Lee and Sutherland mightn't turn out to be World beaters , surely one of them will do something..............I hope :p

[Healy]

Darren Sutherland will make a very good pro middleweight in the near future .
The Olympics(should he make it there) will be his last involvement as an amateur and I think his style will be perfect for the pro game .

I could see him getting to European level at least .

So while all of Duddy , Macklin , Lee and Sutherland mightn't turn out to be World beaters , surely one of them will do something..............I hope :p
Sutherland is running out of time for the Olympics

I saw him at the Nationals and wasnt overly impressd with him but he could be a completely different fighter at pro

We live in hope of a Jim Rock return

[Big Ears]

Sutherland is running out of time for the Olympics

I saw him at the Nationals and wasnt overly impressd with him but he could be a completely different fighter at pro

We live in hope of a Jim Rock return

Not really , he only lost by a point(on the buzzer) to James De Gale in the last qualifiers in Italy . De Gale went on the win the silver medal at that tournament(he might have won gold if he had contested the final) .

Sutherland will be favoured to win a medal in Greece(gold , silver and bronze all make the olympics at middle in the European qualifiers) .

I'm not saying it'll definitely happen but it looks like Sutherland will make the Olympics .
I don't reckon he'll do much there though , he'll be much better suited to the pros .

[SleazeNation]

Why don't they just dismantle Irish boxing and throw it away. What is the point in it? :thumbsup

[Big Ears]

Why don't they just dismantle Irish boxing and throw it away. What is the point in it? :thumbsup

ahh now that's just a poor attempt , when you're trying to wind people up you at least have to have them think your serious .

:-(.........back to the drawing board for you .

[SleazeNation]

ahh now that's just a poor attempt , when you're trying to wind people up you at least have to have them think your serious .

:-(.........back to the drawing board for you .
You're right I'm being silly, Irish boxing is thriving at the moment. :blurp