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Sundance
03-21-2008, 02:55 PM
Haye must take this fight if he wants to jump the queue. I think Povetkin would be a very stearn test. Haye has a big mouth, so I hope he doesnt expect to get a title shot after a fight with a Rahman, McCline or such like.

Steve Fox
03-21-2008, 03:04 PM
Haye must take this fight if he wants to jump the queue. I think Povetkin would be a very stearn test. Haye has a big mouth, so I hope he doesnt expect to get a title shot after a fight with a Rahman, McCline or such like.The WBC seem to be behind Haye, so I don't think he'll have to wait long for a title shot.

Haye
03-21-2008, 03:08 PM
Haye must take this fight if he wants to jump the queue. I think Povetkin would be a very stearn test. Haye has a big mouth, so I hope he doesnt expect to get a title shot after a fight with a Rahman, McCline or such like.

A Rahman or a McCline is far and away enough to get you a title shot these days. Sad really.

dan-b
03-21-2008, 03:09 PM
The WBC heavyweight title is a mess at the moment. Klitschko & Virchis have both been promised shots so Haye may have to look elsewhere.

Haye
03-21-2008, 03:10 PM
Povetkin would beat Haye however. He needs a name like Rahman to get him a shot vs Peter, (admittedly may take a while as the WBC have about 5 final eliminator fights for his title) or maybe Chagaev.

Haye
03-21-2008, 03:11 PM
The WBC heavyweight title is a mess at the moment. Klitschko & Virchis have both been promised shots so Haye may have to look elsewhere.

As has Juan Carlos Gomez. And Toney-Williams is an eliminator. Oh yeah and Vitali.

kurt2006
03-21-2008, 03:14 PM
Povetkin would beat Haye however. He needs a name like Rahman to get him a shot vs Peter, (admittedly may take a while as the WBC have about 5 final eliminator fights for his title) or maybe Chagaev.

You sure about that. Povetkin did not look in good shape in his last fight. He looked fat and gassed. Also he is easy to hit. The only plus I saw in Povetkin was his workrate.

I am sure Haye would beat him.

I think the easiest option is Peter, the big fatso will be too slow and Haye would KO him.

dan-b
03-21-2008, 03:14 PM
As has Juan Carlos Gomez. And Toney-Williams is an eliminator. Oh yeah and Vitali.

The Vitali thing is a fucking joke. I hope he gets flattened in one round.

kurt2006
03-21-2008, 03:17 PM
The Vitali thing is a fucking joke. I hope he gets flattened in one round.
I hope the fight comes off as I would love to see Vitali school Peter plus it would be free to watch on one of the german satellite channels.

dan-b
03-21-2008, 03:22 PM
I hope the fight comes off as I would love to see Vitali school Peter plus it would be free to watch on one of the german satellite channels.

Do you not think it would be terrible for boxing if sick note won back the WBC though?

kurt2006
03-21-2008, 03:31 PM
Do you not think it would be terrible for boxing if sick note won back the WBC though?

No because here have been far worse comeback fights for championship belts.

I just want to see someon school fat Peter. I think he is a total disgrace to boxing and damn right dangerous with his punches to the back of opponents heads.

Vitali would do a number on him and it may force fat Peter to retire or become a gatekeeper.

dan-b
03-21-2008, 03:34 PM
No because here have been far worse comeback fights for championship belts.

I just want to see someon school fat Peter. I think he is a total disgrace to boxing and damn right dangerous with his punches to the back of opponents heads.

Vitali would do a number on him and it may force fat Peter to retire or become a gatekeeper.

But then we'd have old sick note putting peoples careers on hold plus no chance of an undisputed champ if the two brothers are holding the belts. You seem to have a lot of irrational hate Kurt. Why is this?

robpalmer135
03-21-2008, 03:35 PM
Povetkin is the toughest non title fight out there.

Diablo
03-21-2008, 03:53 PM
But then we'd have old sick note putting peoples careers on hold plus no chance of an undisputed champ if the two brothers are holding the belts. You seem to have a lot of irrational hate Kurt. Why is this?

Peter is terrible to watch and just clubs behind the head constantly. If Vitali's body holds up he will beat Peter.

Vitali was by far the best heavy when injuries forced his retirement. Haters stating he was scared of Rahman is hilarious:lol:

dwilson
03-21-2008, 04:01 PM
Povetkin has looked good but has done little to explain the hype that he is this super smashing great boxing star. He is good but only because the division is weak of real top class fighters. We have a bunch of guys that are pretty similar so even guys like Wlad look amazing.

Haye could come in and do some serious business and I would expect him to beat Povetkin who uses his face has his defense, he would not get away with that against Haye.

However Haye could still turn out to be a big dud and I am sure no one would be surprised if he gets KOed the first time he faces a game opponent.

kurt2006
03-21-2008, 04:14 PM
But then we'd have old sick note putting peoples careers on hold plus no chance of an undisputed champ if the two brothers are holding the belts. You seem to have a lot of irrational hate Kurt. Why is this?

No hate but I think Peter is one of the worst black HW belt holders since Berbick. He brings nothing to the ring and shows no real skills. He is just a black Roman Greenberg.

dan-b
03-21-2008, 05:17 PM
No hate but I think Peter is one of the worst black HW belt holders since Berbick. He brings nothing to the ring and shows no real skills. He is just a black Roman Greenberg.

What I mean is that the only time you seem to post is to get stuck into someone. Rarely do we here a rational post based around logic. Are you bitter about something?

kurt2006
03-21-2008, 05:59 PM
What I mean is that the only time you seem to post is to get stuck into someone. Rarely do we here a rational post based around logic. Are you bitter about something?

Just bitter about all the shit in boxing these days and the shit we get served up on television which leads to some right plonkers becoming world champs, Peter being a prime example.

Plenty of positive posts on the David Haye threads (and threads on how to get big fights for free via satellite) so not all my posts are bitter. I honestly think Haye would take fat Peter apart and having seen Povetkin I think he is nothing more than a gatekeeper. I suppose a plus of Povetkin Haye would be that german television would show it free on satellite so no money to Sultana from me.

dan-b
03-21-2008, 06:21 PM
It's unlikely Povetkin's team will take this fight when they are already mandatory for Klitschko. Even if they do decide it's too soon for the Klitschko fight its even less likely they would decide to take on a dangerous puncher like Haye instead.

We all know the ills of boxing Kurt but I think overall the sport is enjoying a resurgence even if the heavies do let it down some what. Alphabet politics is nothing new but we are seeing more unifications across the divisions which can only be a good thing.

TFFP
03-21-2008, 07:12 PM
This fight is very unlikely, unless one becomes champion

Both are at the prospect stage (maybe Povetkin could be counted as a contender). Even if Haye wanted it, Povetkin's people would never let it happen

If it did, Haye would knock him out. He is very susceptible to the overhand right, he took countless against the light hitting Chambers.

Tuffnutz
03-21-2008, 08:50 PM
I think Vitali would be the toughest test for Haye but i would'nt be suprised one bit if he beat everyone else, including Wlad.

He's got the tools to beat everyone, and maybe even Vitali considering his innactivity.

I'm really excited to see Haye at heavyweight. He's like a breath of fresh air.

I hope he does'nt get over confident though.

KCD
03-22-2008, 03:13 AM
I think we need to see Haye at heavyweight before we can make our minds up guys lets not get to carried away. Povetkin is a proven heavyweight both in the amatuers and currentley in the pros.

Although im not a David Haye fan, i have to admit that he will be going for the big fights straight away because thats in his makeup as a fighter, which is good for boxing.

If the guys fought tomorrow i would like to think that Povetkin would stop him in about 6 rounds after taking a few hard shots.

To be honest this could be a fight for a future unification?

achillesthegreat
03-22-2008, 10:30 AM
I would put my money on Haye to win. He is the more talented and dynamic fighter. It is whether Povetkins consistent and methodical work can break him down. I think not.