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PH|LLA
03-21-2008, 02:51 PM
I am trying to establish a list of the 25 best boxers in the world.
here are the 25 boxers i've picked out. Please point out any boxers that you think don't belong and who should replace them.
Floyd
Pac
Calz
Cotto
JMM
Kessler
Haye
Shane Mosley
Jorge Linares
Vlad
Hopkins
Chris John
Ricky Hatton
Lucian Bute
Cristian Mijares
Chad Dawson
Israel Vasquez
Kelly Pavlik
Nonito Donaire
Rafa Marquez
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
Wright
Cory Spinks
Nate Campbell
Nalian
03-21-2008, 02:54 PM
Replace Dawson with Calderon
Apart from that good list
Decebal
03-21-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't think Bute is one of the best 25 in the world yet.
If Andrade beats Stieglitz and Bute beats Andrade whilst proving he can deal well with Andrade's pressure, he is Top 30 for sure. If he beats Taylor, then, he is Top 25 at least. If he beats Pavlik, he is Top 20, just. If he beats Froch v. Inkin winner, again, he is Top 20. What I think, anyway.
jimmie
03-21-2008, 02:56 PM
I am trying to establish a list of the 25 best boxers in the world.
here are the 25 boxers i've picked out. Please point out any boxers that you think don't belong and who should replace them.
Floyd
Pac
Calz
Cotto
JMM
Kessler
Haye
Shane Mosley
Jorge Linares
Vlad
Hopkins
Chris John
Ricky Hatton
Lucian Bute
Cristian Mijares
Chad Dawson
Israel Vasquez
Kelly Pavlik
Nonito Donaire
Rafa Marquez
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
Wright
Cory Spinks
Nate Campbell
I know he isnt very active anymore but Oscar De la Hoya easily has top 25 p4p skills/talent and resume he belongs on that list. He took Floyd to a SD your number 1.
PH|LLA
03-21-2008, 03:01 PM
I know he isnt very active anymore but Oscar De la Hoya easily has top 25 p4p skills/talent and resume he belongs on that list. He took Floyd to a SD your number 1.
who in that list do you think Oscar is better than?
McGrain
03-21-2008, 03:01 PM
Calderon is an absolute must.
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PH|LLA
03-21-2008, 03:01 PM
Calderon
Apart from that good list
If i'd ever seen him fight i might, but i know fuck all about Calderon
brooklyn1550
03-21-2008, 03:02 PM
I'd add Ivan Calderon and Juan Diaz to that list.
PH|LLA
03-21-2008, 03:02 PM
I'd add Ivan Calderon and Juan Diaz to that list.
who are you removing?
seems like Calderon is in from the first few comments
brooklyn1550
03-21-2008, 03:04 PM
who are you removing?
Cory Spinks and Lucian Bute. If Bute beats a guy like Froch or Inkin, then I'd have no problems putting him top 20-25.
PH|LLA
03-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Cory Spinks and Lucian Bute. If Bute beats a guy like Froch or Inkin, then I'd have no problems putting him top 20-25.
k i'll take note. I admit a little bit of bias for Bute here.
I'll add Calderon and Juan Diaz to my list and figure out who is out when i determine the rankings
BewareofDawg
03-21-2008, 03:10 PM
Kessler at #6 :rofl :rofl :rofl
I'm leaving this forum :yep
PH|LLA
03-21-2008, 03:11 PM
Kessler at #6 :rofl :rofl :rofl
I'm leaving this forum :yep
the list is not in order yet
but seriously please do leave.
jimmie
03-21-2008, 03:14 PM
who in that list do you think Oscar is better than?
As far as talent goes I could stick him in the top 10 but I understand his recent resume isnt too great so im not going to overate him like I see on some list wheres hes in the top 12. Id stick him ahead of Linares,Bute and John for sure they have yet to do much of note the only really good win any of them have is Johns over JMM and im not sure if u saw the fight but u probablly know what im hinting at. At worst id rank him low 20s I could make a case for being in the mid to low teens.
andyZOR
03-21-2008, 03:14 PM
Kessler at #6 :rofl :rofl :rofl
I'm leaving this forum :yep
They arent in order I dont think... he just mixed up the top 25 boxers.
LightningJoe
03-21-2008, 03:54 PM
Heres my top 25 p4p. might give you a different perspective on things:
1 FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR
2 JOE CALZAGHE
3 MANNY PACQUIAO
4 JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
5 ISRAEL VAZQUEZ
6 MIGUEL COTTO
7 KELLY PAVLIK
8 BERNARD HOPKINS
9 RICKY HATTON
10 DAVID HAYE
11 RAFAEL MARQUEZ
12 MIKKEL KESSLER
13 CHAD DAWSON
14 WINKY WRIGHT
15 JOAN GUZMAN
16 CHRISTIAN MIJARES
17 ARTHUR ABRAHAM
18 WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO
19 CHRIS JOHN
20 JERMAIN TAYLOR
21 SHANE MOSLEY
22 JUNIOR WITTER
23 CLINTON WOODS
24 IVAN CALDERON
25 OSCAR DE LA HOYA
Asterion
03-21-2008, 04:40 PM
1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. JMM
5. Cotto
6. Israel Vasquez
7. Kelly Pavlik
8. Hopkins
9. Vlad
10. Haye
Unstoppable
03-21-2008, 05:23 PM
I have only seen Calderon in a highlight reel at youtube against Cazares..
From that, I would rate Cazares above Calderon, to be honest. Calderon may have skills he didn't show in those eight minutes, tho.
Amazing how he got the decision, tho..
Is the highlight reel biased or am I missing something here?
Snorkel
03-21-2008, 05:32 PM
I think Abraham has a better shout than Bute. Either way, they're occupying the lower end of this list.
Clinton Woods should be up there too; wins over Gonzalez and a win over Hoye and Johnson are solid performances. If he beats Tarver then he has to be in there somewhere.
I'm no expert on the lower weights, but I'm not convinced Donaire belongs just yet, even though the punch he threw against Vic was a thing of beauty.
nighthunter
03-21-2008, 06:22 PM
I am trying to establish a list of the 25 best boxers in the world.
here are the 25 boxers i've picked out. Please point out any boxers that you think don't belong and who should replace them.
Floyd
Pac
Calz
Cotto
JMM
Kessler
Haye
Shane Mosley
Jorge Linares
Vlad
Hopkins
Chris John
Ricky Hatton
Lucian Bute
Cristian Mijares
Chad Dawson
Israel Vasquez
Kelly Pavlik
Nonito Donaire
Rafa Marquez
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
Wright
Cory Spinks
Nate Campbell
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