Does Berto have the style to beat Floyd

[smoochp]

I know Floyd would win if they fought now. But what do yall think if Berto fought more and was impressive with his current style

[stevebhoy87]

Needs to improve his defence alot, floyd would tee off on him all night at the moment, if he could improve that then its possible

[brooklyn1550]

No, I don't think he does

Berto isn't a great inside fighter (like Castillo) or a technical pressure fighter (like Cotto). He's a strong, stiff, and fast mid-range fighter whose main weapon is the jab. He doesn't have great head movement either. I don't see him having much success boxing against Floyd.

[klion22]

No, I don't think he does

Berto isn't a great inside fighter (like Castillo) or a technical pressure fighter (like Cotto). He's a strong, stiff, and fast mid-range fighter whose main weapon is the jab. He doesn't have great head movement either. I don't see him having much success boxing against Floyd.

I do, because Berto's talents are similiar to PBF's. He can match PBF's hand speed and ability to get off combinations and with that, you've always got a chance. But as the poster above me said, he needs to know what defense is because he comes forward a bit too much when you consider that he could be a good boxer and pick his spots more instead of exposing himself by coming in all the time.

[BigReg]

No, I don't think he does

Berto isn't a great inside fighter (like Castillo) or a technical pressure fighter (like Cotto). He's a strong, stiff, and fast mid-range fighter whose main weapon is the jab. He doesn't have great head movement either. I don't see him having much success boxing against Floyd.

Don't forget the fact that he's suceptable to left hooks despite being a right handed fighter. That's bad news against a guy with a quick, strong left hook. His offense is pretty predictable as well. That's not good news against a great defensive fighter.

[smoochp]

No, I don't think he does

Berto isn't a great inside fighter (like Castillo) or a technical pressure fighter (like Cotto). He's a strong, stiff, and fast mid-range fighter whose main weapon is the jab. He doesn't have great head movement either. I don't see him having much success boxing against Floyd.
But Berto throws uppercuts and I have not seen to many of Floyds oppents throw that at will. But I know Floyd said he likes Berto and Calzaghe. So he must see something in him also. Man and you need to be a trainer. :good

[fightfanatic1]

nope. But this is a little unfair as Berto is still developing as a fighter and Floyd is on top of his game. Berto has good tools to work with, but as we see him right now, there is no way his style would match up well to Floyd.

[brooklyn1550]

Don't forget the fact that he's suceptable to left hooks despite being a right handed fighter. That's bad news against a guy with a quick, strong left hook. His offense is pretty predictable as well. That's not good news against a great defensive fighter.

Good points as well

It might take Floyd 2 or 3 rounds to fully adjust to Berto's quick hands and physical strength, but once he does, he'd be in full control.

[BENNY BLANCO]

i think andre berto is a very solid up and coming fighter but he is 22 fights i believe into his career and he still hasnt improved his footwork, he still too flat footed a guy like quintana would school him so imagine floyd mayweather.

[smoochp]

I don't know yall, but I just see so much in this guy, and think he will become the future. I just hope his chin is cool to handle Cotto or Margo

[Taylex]

Berto is really aggressive but Floyed will know how to use his reach advantage and keep him at distance with the jab and tie him up inside!

[klion22]

Obviously, PBF is the king in this sport and anyone fighting him would be the underdog but Berto's got the type of talent to really challenge a guy like PBF if he uses his talents the right way.

What is the substitute for hand speed? I mean can you get out of the way of a punch you can't see? Berto has great hand speed just like PBF. I know this is all premature but if he continues to improve, it would be a fun fight.

[brooklyn1550]

you need to be a trainer.

:D Funny enough, I was a trainer for about a year or so (a long time ago, too. Early 1980s I want to say). After quitting my amateur career, I wanted to stay involved with boxing in such a way that I didn't get punched in the head. So I worked with a few kids, teaching them the fundamentals and basics. We started with footwork and punch technique, moved on to body sparring, and then moved on to actual sparring.

A few continued with it and one actually had a pretty good showing in the Golden Gloves as a welterweight.

[cardstars]

Berto/Mayweather would be Gatti/Mayweather II. Mayweather would hit Berto all night long until the fight is stopped

[BENNY BLANCO]

Obviously, PBF is the king in this sport and anyone fighting him would be the underdog but Berto's got the type of talent to really challenge a guy like PBF if he uses his talents the right way.

What is the substitute for hand speed? I mean can you get out of the way of a punch you can't see? Berto has great hand speed just like PBF. I know this is all premature but if he continues to improve, it would be a fun fight.IMHO i think berto just has an extremely quick jab but not very quick hand-speed overall

[Nestea]

A close to call, but I give the edge to Floyd.

[tays001]

No

[klion22]

Berto/Mayweather would be Gatti/Mayweather II. Mayweather would hit Berto all night long until the fight is stopped

Please tell me you didn't compare Gatti to a very green yet very talented fighter in Berto.

[klion22]

IMHO i think berto just has an extremely quick jab but not very quick hand-speed overall

I've watched his last 3 fights and this guy impresses me. He puts together combinations incredibly well. I mean they are lightning fast. I'm just excited to see him fight next and see if he can mature into a complete fighter.

[cardstars]

Please tell me you didn't compare Gatti to a very green yet very talented fighter in Berto.

I knew someone would bring that up. No im not at all, except for the fact that Bertos technical game is trash and he has an extremely leaky defense. Mayweather would slowly brutalize him until it was stopped. Wouldn't even be a close fight; can you say B-L-O-W-O-U-T

[klion22]

I knew someone would bring that up. No im not at all, except for the fact that Bertos technical game is trash and he has an extremely leaky defense. Mayweather would slowly brutalize him until it was stopped. Wouldn't even be a close fight; can you say B-L-O-W-O-U-T

I agree that right now, that would be the case. But the poster asked if they fought later when Berto has more fights under him and shows the natural progression.

[fitzgeraldz]

He's too much of a brawler ... this guy looks up to Floyd as well ... if they fought he would be star struck.

He's a stand up fighter w/ zero head movement and blocking ability.

He got dropped by Cosme Rivera (which shouldn't have happened but he had his hands down)

Bad habits that he can't change will hurt him badly !!

He doesn't have alot of power either -- even though he fights like he does.

I think Berto needs a new team and a more polished tools in his tool box.

[Sinew]

I think Berto and Cotto could beat Floyd . they are the only two that have the technique at that level .

Berto could match Mayweather on every level except experience. that is always a key factor.

[smoochp]

I've watched his last 3 fights and this guy impresses me. He puts together combinations incredibly well. I mean they are lightning fast. I'm just excited to see him fight next and see if he can mature into a complete fighter.
I'm with you out of al the fights I seen of him which is 10, he impresses me more than any other fighter I seen for minute. More like the 2000 olympic class and up. But i would love to see him fight Cotto in 09. Maybe Taylor-Chavez again with out the stupid ending

[Sweet Pea]

Berto has the style to get tagged up and down, left and right, and KO'd by a guy like Floyd. Lack of footwork and defense will do that when faced with an elite, or any top notch fighter who's style doesn't play directly into his hands.

[IntentionalButt]

:lol::lol:

Berto? I have yet to see him really develop a style. He isn't as strong or as big as DLH, either, so forget about him imposing either asset.

[Sweet Pea]

I think Berto and Cotto could beat Floyd . they are the only two that have the technique at that level .

Berto could match Mayweather on every level except experience. that is always a key factor.:patsch He has more power, Floyd has a HUGE edge in every other category. I have a feeling Berto will be exposed soon, depending on who he fights. Very flawed fighter.

[BENNY BLANCO]

I've watched his last 3 fights and this guy impresses me. He puts together combinations incredibly well. I mean they are lightning fast. I'm just excited to see him fight next and see if he can mature into a complete fighter.one thing i like about berto is that he's able to realize his mistakes. when he fought cosme rivera he was just tryna go for the KO all night and not giving cosme any respect at all which is why he got caught with that uppercut, but when he fought david estrada he boxed him with his jab and went for the kill in the 11th round i believe

[Sweet Pea]

I knew someone would bring that up. No im not at all, except for the fact that Bertos technical game is trash and he has an extremely leaky defense. Mayweather would slowly brutalize him until it was stopped. Wouldn't even be a close fight; can you say B-L-O-W-O-U-TBingo.

[Arriba]

Berto on offense is a thing of beauty.

Berto on defense? What defense?

Floyd would counter him into oblivion...He'd be KTFO quicker than his brother was on Elite XC...and I'm a big Berto fan.

[klion22]

one thing i like about berto is that he's able to realize his mistakes. when he fought cosme rivera he was just tryna go for the KO all night and not giving cosme any respect at all which is why he got caught with that uppercut, but when he fought david estrada he boxed him with his jab and went for the kill in the 11th round i believe

He owned Estrada from start to finish.

[RealIzm]

style yes
intelligence and experience...NO
right now berto gets beaten and broken by Fraud Gayweather

[brooklyn1550]

I think Berto and Cotto could beat Floyd . they are the only two that have the technique at that level .

Berto could match Mayweather on every level except experience. that is always a key factor.

Mayweather has the clear edge in defensive, footwork, footspeed, ring generalship, adaptability, accuracy, and counter punching ability.

[klion22]

I'm with you out of al the fights I seen of him which is 10, he impresses me more than any other fighter I seen for minute. More like the 2000 olympic class and up. But i would love to see him fight Cotto in 09. Maybe Taylor-Chavez again with out the stupid ending

I'm with you also. I love his raw talents. He's got it all. He just needs to utilize it properly. What i also like about him is his maturity and dedication. He has his eyes set on greatness. He ain't no Zab Judah. A guy with talents without the mental make up.

I look forward to see what he does. I expect great things.

[cardstars]

I agree that right now, that would be the case. But the poster asked if they fought later when Berto has more fights under him and shows the natural progression.

You got me there, I didn't read carefully enough (fighting later on). But Berto is what he is, in my honest opinion. He's never going to have the skill, defense, or technical game to beat Floyd - unless its a half dozen years from now and Mayweather is completely shot. I just don't think Berto is going to progress into "that" kind of fighter (top p4p material)

[fitzgeraldz]

Berto has no power, he's just fast and he's not as fast as PBF ...

Berto is the number 1 contender to Floyd's WBC title !!

Berto would get crushed now and in the future ... he takes too many shots.

He would get pummeled by someone on the elite level ...

[Sinew]

Mayweather has the clear edge in defensive, footwork, footspeed, ring generalship, adaptability, accuracy, and counter punching ability. I agree...but Berto could shake things up. not saying that he would, but he could .

[fitzgeraldz]

Berto would be star struck against Floyd, that's who he masters his style after and he looks up to the guy.

Even if he matures as a fighter it would take alot for him to make the proper adjustment, get in the right conditioning, get better defensively, and develop some kinda head and shoulder movement.

[BENNY BLANCO]

i hate when ppl bring up that flash knock-down that happened to berto in the cosme fight as a meauring stick for why he wont be very good or great fighter, it was the same shit when cotto got knock down by torres everybody said he was too flawed and that he would get sonned by the top contenders but cotto has since gone on to beat 3 fighters ranked in the top 10 in the 147 division. SO WHY CANT BERTO ALSO BECOME SUCCESSFUL THE WAY MIGUEL HAS BEEN??

[klion22]

I think some of you are being way too harsh on Berto. The kid has only 21 fights under his belt and is only 25. He can improve on his defense and footwork. He can learn not to be so aggressive and put himself into harms way and box from the outside more. But his raw talents are about as good as anyone. And when you have that, you always have a chance at greatness. Plus, he's got the right mental make up.

[fitzgeraldz]

Berto doesn't hit hard enough ... he's not strong like a Cotto or a Mosley or a DLH ... he has to break his guys down somewhat the way that Juan Diaz does.

I like him as a young up and comer though

[smoochp]

i hate when ppl bring up that flash knock-down that happened to berto in the cosme fight as a meauring stick for why he wont be very good or great fighter, it was the same shit when cotto got knock down by torres everybody said he was too flawed and that he would get sonned by the top contenders but cotto has since gone on to beat 3 fighters ranked in the top 10 in the 147 division. SO WHY CANT BERTO ALSO BECOME SUCCESSFUL THE WAY MIGUEL HAS BEEN??
Thank you, I believe damn near every fighter has been knockdown, besides Floyd and thats still debatable. It doesn't matter if you get knockdown, it what you do after the knockdown. I believe that is why people love Tito, because he only got more aggresive after the knockdown besides the Hopkins fight

[D_knowsboxing]

berto will be a champ one day, but he wont get a strap from PBF. Probably from one of the other abc titlist like cintron or quintana

[fitzgeraldz]

i hate when ppl bring up that flash knock-down that happened to berto in the cosme fight as a meauring stick for why he wont be very good or great fighter, it was the same shit when cotto got knock down by torres everybody said he was too flawed and that he would get sonned by the top contenders but cotto has since gone on to beat 3 fighters ranked in the top 10 in the 147 division. SO WHY CANT BERTO ALSO BECOME SUCCESSFUL THE WAY MIGUEL HAS BEEN??

I think Berto can be very successful ... I pointed out the knockdown because it shouldn't have happened ... he opened up on Rivera with his hands down trying to be on some slick shit and got rocked.

Cotto has been hurt too many times including his last fight against Mosley where late in the fight he was on wobbly legs.

[fitzgeraldz]

I would like to see him fight the winner of Quintana v Williams ... he has a regional belt and he's defended it a couple times - I believe.

He's in line for a title shot very soon.

[D_knowsboxing]

yeah like i said he could get a strap off of one of the abc titlist that have a belt but are waiting to give it to someone who is a real contender a la cintron and quintana.. Clearly not elite fighters.

[BigReg]

Thank you, I believe damn near every fighter has been knockdown, besides Floyd and thats still debatable. It doesn't matter if you get knockdown, it what you do after the knockdown. I believe that is why people love Tito, because he only got more aggresive after the knockdown besides the Hopkins fight

:lol: Aint that the truth. Kind of hard to be aggresive when you don't know where you are. Thank God his corner waived the white flag. On the real though, I did like the way Tito came back strong after being knocked down. I always rooted for him(except when he fought Reid,Hopkins, Wright, and Jones)

[D_knowsboxing]

I would like to see him fight the winner of Quintana v Williams ... he has a regional belt and he's defended it a couple times - I believe.

He's in line for a title shot very soon.

Off subject but Fitz, you NEED an avatar... Preferably a hot chick cuz you post often and I would like to see that smoking hot chick everytime you post:yep

[smoochp]

I would like to see him fight the winner of Quintana v Williams ... he has a regional belt and he's defended it a couple times - I believe.

He's in line for a title shot very soon.
I would love him and quitana against each other. But Williams got me so mad, his last fight I really think he should move up to 154 like alot of us were saying for a while. He didn't have an off night, he got exposed

[TFFP]

No. Berto doesn't have anything to beat Floyd Mayweather.

Or Cotto.

Or Mosley.

Infact, I'd be suprised if he could beat Margarito, and Cintron would certanly give his questionable chin a check.

[BENNY BLANCO]

i think right now quintana beats berto the same way he beat another hard punching prospect joel julio

[fitzgeraldz]

Off subject but Fitz, you NEED an avatar... Preferably a hot chick cuz you post often and I would like to see that smoking hot chick everytime you post:yep

How do you do that?

[BENNY BLANCO]

but berto has time on his side so no need to rush especially with the 147 pound division being so damn talented

[TFFP]

Add Quintana to the list, good call.

I'm not high on Berto. He's a disaster waiting to happen.

[Sweet Pea]

i hate when ppl bring up that flash knock-down that happened to berto in the cosme fight as a meauring stick for why he wont be very good or great fighter, it was the same shit when cotto got knock down by torres everybody said he was too flawed and that he would get sonned by the top contenders but cotto has since gone on to beat 3 fighters ranked in the top 10 in the 147 division. SO WHY CANT BERTO ALSO BECOME SUCCESSFUL THE WAY MIGUEL HAS BEEN??Because he's not nearly as good maybe?

[cardstars]

I would like to see him fight the winner of Quintana v Williams ... he has a regional belt and he's defended it a couple times - I believe.

He's in line for a title shot very soon.

Berto/Quintana would be an excellent fight, and it would tell us a lot about his progression :good . Berto/Williams would also be a great fight. I think I would favor Berto over Paul.

I would also like to say that I love watching Berto fight, and yes he is a great talent but i see lots of flaws in his game that I don't think are going to be fixed "enough" so that he is top p4p material. He will surely hold a belt though

[smoochp]

:D Funny enough, I was a trainer for about a year or so (a long time ago, too. Early 1980s I want to say). After quitting my amateur career, I wanted to stay involved with boxing in such a way that I didn't get punched in the head. So I worked with a few kids, teaching them the fundamentals and basics. We started with footwork and punch technique, moved on to body sparring, and then moved on to actual sparring.

A few continued with it and one actually had a pretty good showing in the Golden Gloves as a welterweight.
Great story, I'm not going to lie I learn alot from you with fighters and outcomes. Same with alot of people on this site. You should take Steward place with "this fight went exactly the way I expected"

[fitzgeraldz]

No. Berto doesn't have anything to beat Floyd Mayweather.

Or Cotto.

Or Mosley.

Infact, I'd be suprised if he could beat Margarito, and Cintron would certanly give his questionable chin a check.

the truth hurts :shock:

[D_knowsboxing]

How do you do that?

go to the user CP, and click avatar and then find you a pic of a super hot chick and save it to your desktop and paste the location to the space provided.:good

[smoochp]

the truth hurts :shock:
That's know and I can agree with that but I'm talking next year or maybe the year after that when he hits his prime or do you think he will be exposed before then?

[cardstars]

That's know and I can agree with that but I'm talking next year or maybe the year after that when he hits his prime or do you think he will be exposed before then?

I think he will get exposed. To be honest with you a guy like Paulie would be a nightmare matchup for Berto :yep

[brooklyn1550]

Great story, I'm not going to lie I learn alot from you with fighters and outcomes. Same with alot of people on this site. You should take Steward place with "this fight went exactly the way I expected"

:lol: If I said that about the past few bigger fights, I'd be lying. I picked both Marquez brothers to win, as well as Paul Williams.

[Nico]

Floyd could close his eyes and throw a left hook, and it would hit Berto in the face.

Andre Berto is very, very hittable. He wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of beating Mayweather. Not now, not ever.

[D_knowsboxing]

Add Quintana to the list, good call.

I'm not high on Berto. He's a disaster waiting to happen.

I think berto reflects the level of fighter he faces. It is a rare thing that when a athlete faces someone of inferior talent they do just enough to beat the guy. Look at Berto's last fight against ______(forgot his name). clearly sheltered fighter from ______ (Europe somewhere) and berto let his hands down just to test the waters, got stunned a couple times and then took the guy out.

[IntentionalButt]

Floyd could close his eyes and throw a left hook, and it would hit Berto in the face.

Andre Berto is very, very hittable. He wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of beating Mayweather. Not now, not ever.


:thumbsup

[pasky2000]

Berto has good skills but ain't PBF material...but then who is ?

[smoochp]

:lol: If I said that about the past few bigger fights, I'd be lying. I picked both Marquez brothers to win, as well as Paul Williams.
Well 2/3 is debatable with you predictions. The last one OMG :rofl

[D_knowsboxing]

Berto would murder Paulie who can't even knockout a fly !

Pasky, you never lie:yep Paulie isn't in the same league as berto... Paulie has peaked and berto is still on the rise.

[brooklyn1550]

The last one OMG :rofl

:D Not many got that fight correct. It was a big suprise to me that Quintana was able to beat him and make it look easy at times.

[fitzgeraldz]

Berto will get exposed to a fighter on the elite level ... let him run into a fighter like Collazo and he'll be in for a long night.

You might even say the same thing about him against Quintana, Margarito, Williams, Judah, and most definitely Clottey.

[Arriba]

Maybe 7 people picked Carlos to beat Paul Williams...and six of them were puerto rican.

[D_knowsboxing]

Berto will get exposed to a fighter on the elite level ... let him run into a fighter like Collazo and he'll be in for a long night.

Yezzir Fitz!! (about the avatar) collazo if he makes weight...:huh Long night indeed

[Sweet Pea]

Well 2/3 is debatable with you predictions. The last one OMG :roflYou picked Quintana to beat Williams? He was a huge underdog, most picked Williams, how is that laughable?

[cardstars]

:lol: If I said that about the past few bigger fights, I'd be lying. I picked both Marquez brothers to win, as well as Paul Williams.

I also made those same three predictions. The Marquez brothers hurt my betting accounts :|

[D_knowsboxing]

You picked Quintana to beat Williams? He was a huge underdog, most picked Williams, how is that laughable?

Boxing fans get amnesia QUICK! if you ask anyone today, PW has alwayz been a bum....Prior to that Hatton would beat PBF....Or Mac would take Haye into the deep waters or my all time fav.....Juan Diaz is unbeatable.:yep

[Sweet Pea]

JMM did win by my card, regardless of the judges decisions.

[smoochp]

You picked Quintana to beat Williams? He was a huge underdog, most picked Williams, how is that laughable?
No my man I told Brooklyn he should be a commentator for his predictions, and I told him he is like steward with his famous quote. He said I'll be a lie because he wanted the Marquez brothers and Williams to win. I said the first to was debatable, but the last being williams got fucked up. That's all and I thought williams will kill him

[BENNY BLANCO]

Berto will get exposed to a fighter on the elite level ... let him run into a fighter like Collazo and he'll be in for a long night.please you have to be joking right? berto would beat collazo 8 rounds to 4 IF and thats IF it were to even go to a decision.

[fitzgeraldz]

I picked Quintana to beat Williams -- I thought he was on to big things once he beat Julio.
Then he followed up by a bitch ass performance against Cotto.

I picked Campbell to beat Diaz as well ... I don't go along with the hype ... I go with the best fighter on that night.

[fitzgeraldz]

Ok you underestimate Collazo who's a beast ... he's fast, can box, has good power in the left, and has a good chin.

Thanks D on the idea for the avatar ...

[D_knowsboxing]

Ok you underestimate Collazo who's a beast ... he's fast, can box, has good power in the left, and has a good chin.

Thanks D on the idea for the avatar ...

It had to be done! Welcome to the hot chicks as avatars club!

[BENNY BLANCO]

Ok you underestimate Collazo who's a beast ... he's fast, can box, has good power in the left, and has a good chin.

Thanks D on the idea for the avatar ...yeah......for a gatekeeper which is what he'll be. he lost to hatton whos not a real 147 pounder so imagine him against berto whos very comfortable at 147

[brooklyn1550]

I also made those same three predictions. The Marquez brothers hurt my betting accounts :|

Well, Juan Manuel should have won (115-112 or 114-113), so I'm pretty upset about that. I didn't keep score for Vazquez/Marquez 3 and simply enjoyed a great fight. No complaints over that.

[D_knowsboxing]

Well, Juan Manuel should have won (115-112 or 114-113), so I'm pretty upset about that. I didn't keep score for Vazquez/Marquez 3 and simply enjoyed a great fight. No complaints over that.

:good Fight of the year! Vazquez left it all in the ring so I had to give him the W.

[brooklyn1550]

:good Fight of the year! Vazquez left it all in the ring so I had to give him the W.

His performance in the 12th round was legendary.

[fitzgeraldz]

yeah......for a gatekeeper which is what he'll be. he lost to hatton whos not a real 147 pounder so imagine him against berto whos very comfortable at 147

I think He beat Hatton badly almost knocked him out and got a raw deal because Hatton was undefeated and had the whole crowd behind him.

[IntentionalButt]

His performance in the 12th round was legendary.

Capital L. :thumbsup

[IntentionalButt]

He's neither the style nor the power even had he the style. There are lots of fun things Berto can do at 147 - win belts, knock out contenders...not beat Floyd! Case closed! :p

[D_knowsboxing]

His performance in the 12th round was legendary.

The 12th round was what boxing is all about. My jaw was dropped with the never say die attitude he had. Straight out of Rocky 1-4, not so much 5 or 6:yep

[brooklyn1550]

I think He beat Hatton badly almost knocked him out and got a raw deal because Hatton was undefeated and had the whole crowd behind him.

Collazo certainly put a bad beating on Hatton when he would let his hands go. He had him out on his feet once or twice. And I think there was a moment in the 12th when the ref could have called a knockdown in favor of Collazo.

The only problem was Collazo's inactivity in other rounds. It was really a fight that could have gone either way.

[Ramshall1]

Berto has all the tools, except Experience.

[smoochp]

His performance in the 12th round was legendary.
Historian, could you name a Legendary 12th round like that from a war of a fight. Because I never seen nothing like that in my life. It would usually be earlier rounds and an eventual stoppage would occur.

[smoochp]

And defense/chin
Your avatar those were suppose to be the future :-(

[D_knowsboxing]

only thing that I saw like that 12th round was the hagler-hearns 3 round WAR. But mar-vas 3 was a 12 round epic battle... CRAZY

[Ramshall1]

And defense/chin

Offensive tools I should say then. . . BTW, the jury is still out on his chin. That one punch landed by Cosme was right on the button . . . it happens. He recovered well - although his corner cheated to get extra time, thats why I say the jury is still out.

[smoochp]

only thing that I saw like that 12th round was the hagler-hearns 3 round WAR. But mar-vas 3 was a 12 round epic battle... CRAZY
I feel you on that, but that 12 round I have never seen a fighter want ot more. But that might be his last great performance because that probably took alot out of him.

[fitzgeraldz]

From the 7th on Collazo ruled and couldve snuck in a 10-8 round here or there.

But to be honest Collazo got a raw deal ... he hurt his hand against Shane and I feel that he was into the fight for the most part but once he hurt his hand he fell off considerable.

[jupzrooni]

I know Floyd would win if they fought now. But what do yall think if Berto fought more and was impressive with his current style


no. floyd will beat him worse than hatton

[Sonny Carson]

[quote=fitzgeraldz]Berto has no power, he's just fast and he's not as fast as PBF ...
quote]
What the hell do you mean he has no power? Of course he has power, he isn't a one punch puncher but he has atleast decent power. Someone who doesn't have power is someone like Juan Diaz, not Berto.

[Pimp C]

I like Berto and think he will have a good future but he would be out of his league against PBF. He's very easy to hit and against an accurate puncher like PBF that spells doom. I see Berto being fustrated by the mid rounds and possibly being stopped in the late rounds. His lack of big fight experience will be a factor as well.

[Symphenyceo]

no

[Amsterdam]

I know Floyd would win if they fought now. But what do yall think if Berto fought more and was impressive with his current style

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Sweet Pea]

And defense/chinAnd skills.

[smoochp]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
sorry