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cross_trainer
07-12-2007, 08:09 PM
We often concentrate on the big boys, and this will be a refreshing change. Everyone who sees this--post a thread with a small article on your favorite non-heavyweight fighter.
heerko koois
07-13-2007, 05:22 PM
Hmmmmmmm, who could I possibly choose?
Donald Curry ? :D
Bad_Intentions
07-13-2007, 05:36 PM
Hmmmmmmm, who could I possibly choose?*points at your avataar*
:D
avsouza06
07-13-2007, 05:54 PM
Benn
Hagler
Antuofermo
Arguello
"Little Red" Lopez
RJJ
Tszu
Eubank
Fenech
Griffith
De La Hoya
brooklyn1550
07-13-2007, 06:35 PM
1. Roberto Duran
2. Pernell Whitaker
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Aaron Pryor
5. Salvador Sanchez
6. Marco Antonio Barrera
7. Marvin Hagler
8. Harry Greb
9. Stanley Ketchel
10. Bobby Chacon
Doppleganger
07-13-2007, 06:40 PM
Well if I was pointing at my avatar it would be 'Amanda, available for hardcore shoots, private dances and escorts' but it's gotta be the 'Motor City Cobra' for me.
unitas
07-13-2007, 07:03 PM
buck smith. he was certainly not great, but i loved his attitude.
and you just gotta love a guy who had no coach and basically taught himself how to box.
Dempsey1238
07-13-2007, 09:17 PM
Barney Ross.
Does Amanda have a last name lol.
Robbi
07-13-2007, 09:24 PM
Roberto Duran
Oscar De La Hoya
Pernell Whitaker
Marvin Hagler
Juan Manuel Marquez
Bernard Hopkins
Thomas Hearns
Donald Curry
James Toney
Sugar Ray Robinson
rekcutnevets
07-13-2007, 10:44 PM
Whitaker is known for his defense, and rightfully so. He also had a good jab, body attack, and high punch output.
Chavez had one of the best offenses ever. I love to watch his combinations, the way he cuts off the ring, and even the way he would break clinches.
Mike McCallum is the only person that I can trully say was good at everything.
James Toney may be the best counterpuncher I have ever seen.
Sorry that I could not give just one name. If pressed, I would have to say Whitaker; from my generation.
Bummy Davis
07-13-2007, 11:59 PM
Willie Pep,Benny Leonard,Mickey Walker,Harry Greb,Stanley Ketchel,Tony Canzanari,SRR,Henry Armstrong,Duran,Sammy Angott,Billy Conn,Rocky Graziano,Jake Lamotta,Beau Jack,Carmine Basilio,Ken Buchanan,Ruben Olivares,Wilfredo Gomez,Salvatore Sanchez, Azuma Nelson,Pancho Villa, Jimmy Wilde,Bobby Chacon,Danny Lopez,Tony Zale,Arturo Gatti,Mickey Ward,Al Bummy Davis,Barney Ross,Marvin Hagler,Carlos Monzon.Sam Langford..not in order
Jack Dempsey
07-14-2007, 04:28 AM
Willie Pep,Benny Leonard,Mickey Walker,Harry Greb,Stanley Ketchel,Tony Canzanari,SRR,Henry Armstrong,Duran,Sammy Angott,Billy Conn,Rocky Graziano,Jake Lamotta,Beau Jack,Carmine Basilio,Ken Buchanan,Ruben Olivares,Wilfredo Gomez,Salvatore Sanchez, Azuma Nelson,Pancho Villa, Jimmy Wilde,Bobby Chacon,Danny Lopez,Tony Zale,Arturo Gatti,Mickey Ward,Al Bummy Davis,Barney Ross,Marvin Hagler,Carlos Monzon.Sam Langford..not in order
A lot of these would be in my list:good
JohnThomas1
07-14-2007, 09:12 PM
I see you're a moderator now CT, they've made a fine choice.
Zakman
07-15-2007, 08:47 AM
Duran - easily my favorite non-HW
Hnery Armstrong. Billy Conn, Marcel Cerdan
ironchamp
07-15-2007, 12:07 PM
Tito Trinidad
Roberto Duran
Roy Jones Jr.
Prince Naz
Pacman
SgrRyLeonard
07-15-2007, 01:28 PM
Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, Oscar DeLahoya, Marco Antonio Barerra, Bernard Hopkins, Sugar Shane Mosley, Terry Norris, and the original and greatest Sugar, Sugar Ray Robinson.
Irish Steel
07-15-2007, 05:29 PM
Ward:smoke
Manassa
07-15-2007, 05:46 PM
Ike Williams. The only heavyweight in probably my top thirty favourite fighters would be Joe Louis.
john garfield
07-15-2007, 05:52 PM
Willie Pep,Benny Leonard,Mickey Walker,Harry Greb,Stanley Ketchel,Tony Canzanari,SRR,Henry Armstrong,Duran,Sammy Angott,Billy Conn,Rocky Graziano,Jake Lamotta,Beau Jack,Carmine Basilio,Ken Buchanan,Ruben Olivares,Wilfredo Gomez,Salvatore Sanchez, Azuma Nelson,Pancho Villa, Jimmy Wilde,Bobby Chacon,Danny Lopez,Tony Zale,Arturo Gatti,Mickey Ward,Al Bummy Davis,Barney Ross,Marvin Hagler,Carlos Monzon.Sam Langford..not in order
Most of the ones, from the '40s on, BD, I saw live and couldn't agree more. I heard so much in the gym about what a tough SOB Mickey Walker was, I felt like I'd seen him.
Drew101
07-15-2007, 06:06 PM
1. Ricardo Lopez
2. Jung Koo Chang
3. Hilario Zapata
4. Eusebio Pedroza
5. Salvador Sanchez
6. Saoul Mamby
7. Tommy Cordova
8. Arturo Gatti
9. Bobby Chacon
10. Cornelius Boza Edwards
11. Alexis Arguello
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Jiro Watanabe
14. Matthew Saad Muhammad
15. Marvin Hagler
No particular order
john garfield
07-15-2007, 06:12 PM
Ike Williams. The only heavyweight in probably my top thirty favourite fighters would be Joe Louis.
Ike Williams is a favorite of mine, as well, M. The picture of Ike in your avatar hangs on the wall at the Wild Card Gym. It freaks-out some who see one of trainers, Sammy Stewart, who's a dead-ringer for Williams.
Manassa
07-15-2007, 06:21 PM
Ike Williams is a favorite of mine, as well, M. The picture of Ike in your avatar hangs on the wall at the Wild Card Gym. It freaks-out some who see one of trainers, Sammy Stewart, who's a dead-ringer for Williams.
I rate Williams the #3 lightweight of all time and favour him over Roberto Duran and Henry Armstrong (though losing to the better boxer types such as Benny Leonard and Pernell Whitaker). Do you think this is justifiable, based on what you saw back in ye olden days? If you wouldn't mind, please explain the impression Williams left on you as a youngster - what did you think of him in the ring?
john garfield
07-15-2007, 07:25 PM
I rate Williams the #3 lightweight of all time and favour him over Roberto Duran and Henry Armstrong (though losing to the better boxer types such as Benny Leonard and Pernell Whitaker). Do you think this is justifiable, based on what you saw back in ye olden days? If you wouldn't mind, please explain the impression Williams left on you as a youngster - what did you think of him in the ring?
I never get into rating fighters, M; I can only reflect on who were my favorites. At lightweight, Duran and Williams were the gold standard, an incredible amalgam of punching power, speed, skill, ferocity, electricity, and every intangible. Face them and you were in against the perfect storm.
Bob Montgomery is largely overlooked, but he was a helluva fighter.
Titan1
07-15-2007, 08:18 PM
Michael Spinks
Marvin Hagler
Davey Moore
Donald Curry
Milton McCrory
Aaron Pryor
Ray Leonard
Thomas Hearns
Ray Mancini
Alexis Arguello
Roberto Duran
Edwin Rosario
Hector Camacho
Jeff Chandler
Salvador Sanchez
Manassa
07-15-2007, 09:35 PM
I never get into rating fighters, M; I can only reflect on who were my favorites. At lightweight, Duran and Williams were the gold standard, an incredible amalgam of punching power, speed, skill, ferocity, electricity, and every intangible. Face them and you were in against the perfect storm.
Bob Montgomery is largely overlooked, but he was a helluva fighter.
I've never seen Montgomery in action - too young to have seen live, and no tapes exist to my knowledge. I've seen his most famous rivals, Beau Jack and Ike Williams, obviously, but not the man himself. We know Williams was top dog in the end, but who do you think achieved more out of Jack and Montgomery? I lean towards Jack. I get the feeling Montgomery was the better fighter at his best; more complete; but that Jack's sheer dedication meant he was a bit more consistent at the top level.
john garfield
07-15-2007, 11:38 PM
I've never seen Montgomery in action - too young to have seen live, and no tapes exist to my knowledge. I've seen his most famous rivals, Beau Jack and Ike Williams, obviously, but not the man himself. We know Williams was top dog in the end, but who do you think achieved more out of Jack and Montgomery? I lean towards Jack. I get the feeling Montgomery was the better fighter at his best; more complete; but that Jack's sheer dedication meant he was a bit more consistent at the top level.
I'm not sure if I underdstand your question, M. But, if it's who was better between Jack and Montgomery? Montgomery was far better in every department, but Jack could match heart with anyone that's ever fought. His should've campaigned as "The Wolverine."
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