Any news on the fighter who got sparked in a nightclub

[Big N Bad]

anyone have any idea which fighter ****** was talking about who was KTFO in a nightclub?

[steelem]

I Remenber Naseem Hamed Back In The Day Getting Sparked

[mike464]

Calzaghe

[Big N Bad]

i heard hamed got beat up but not heard him getting sparked.

yeah i heard calzaghe got sparked by his ex wife

[dwilson]

Hamed once got seriously destroyed in a club. Big embarressment I heard, he was giving it large then got done over. He expected his guys to help him out but he just got blasted bad.

[toffeejack]

Calzaghe

LOL :lol:

[KCD]

A couple of guys at a gym i used to go to told me about Amir Khan getting put on his arse by a pissed up guy in a Bolton nightclub. Then the bouncers rushed the guy a chucked him out?

I have seen Khan around Bolton on a nightout and he comes across arrogant. Always driving around and around and around and around the town centre in his flash cars.

[skellington]

Any young guy with a lot of money in a small town is going to come across like that though.

[Decebal]

A couple of guys at a gym i used to go to told me about Amir Khan getting put on his arse by a pissed up guy in a Bolton nightclub. Then the bouncers rushed the guy a chucked him out?

I have seen Khan around Bolton on a nightout and he comes across arrogant. Always driving around and around and around and around the town centre in his flash cars.

It cannot be him because ****** would not spread malicious rumours about his silver boy.

[PrideOfWales]

It cannot be him because ****** would not spread malicious rumours about his silver boy.

Plus he stated that it was a world champion

[Decebal]

Plus he stated that it was a world champion

...that as well...

[dwilson]

Maybe it was Jim Watt?


****** never said it was a current champion.

[Decebal]

Maybe it was Jim Watt?


****** never said it was a current champion.

Someone must know...quite a few must have seen it and recognised the guy...I am surprised the news hasn't spread by now, with all these forums...

[Decebal]

When he says 'champion' you can bet he's including WBU & all that codswallop so it could be fucking anyone

:lol:

true...

[Big N Bad]

When he says 'champion' you can bet he's including WBU & all that codswallop so it could be fucking anyone

:lol: yeah, fair point

im not sure amir goes to nightclubs:huh and if he was put on his arse, he probably got speared "goldberg style" :D

[skellington]

Maybe Clinton Woods? Derry Matthews?

I'm guessing he was talking about Haye though pre-Maccarinelli, just to stir shit.

No random bloke is going to spark Clinton Woods. No if it's anyone it'll be someone in a smaller weight class.

[KCD]

It cannot be him because ****** would not spread malicious rumours about his silver boy.

Well thats what i thought.

[KCD]

:lol: yeah, fair point

im not sure amir goes to nightclubs:huh and if he was put on his arse, he probably got speared "goldberg style" :D


He does go to nightclubs in Bolton (im from Bolton) seen him a couple of times in Ikon and he is always in J2. Never walking around always in the 'vip' area which is just a little part of the club with a bit of rope around it:lol:

I know of people who have beaten him up in streetfights but that was way back at school, not recently.

[kurt2006]

Got to be fatty Rees. He likes boozing and out the others mentioned I doubt and bouncer going to knock out Woods or Haye unless they were seriously pissed.

[surreal deal]

Always driving around and around and around and around the town centre in his flash cars.:rofl:rofl:rofl
Amused me for some reason that:good:yep

[surreal deal]

Yep;
Audley Harrison tried to feel me arse,so i had to put him down.

[rendog67]

it was me, david haye was being cheeky and i warned him on more than one occasion to step off. He didnt listen so i wiped the floor with him, finished my pint and got the fuck out of there.

[surreal deal]

it was me, david haye was being cheeky and i warned him on more than one occasion to step off. He didnt listen so i wiped the floor with him, finished my pint and got the fuck out of there.
I know.you try to be controlled and polite,("No Dave i dont want your girlfriend",No Dave,fight your own battles"etc:roll: )but he really pushes it that lil shitbag doesnt he?:verysad

[Stickandmove]

Hamed once got seriously destroyed in a club. Big embarressment I heard, he was giving it large then got done over. He expected his guys to help him out but he just got blasted bad.

Was this a prime Hamed? I suppose the guy was only 5'3'' and there are plenty of guys in clubs capable of destroying him.

I fancied my chances back in the day and remember shadow boxing at the thought just before his fight with Said Lawal. I pulled a muscle and Hamed virtually finished Lawal with his first punch :lol:

[LiamE]

No random bloke is going to spark Clinton Woods. No if it's anyone it'll be someone in a smaller weight class.

I was just thinking that.

Would be a brave lad that took a swing at Woods in a club.

[Ghostface923]

Could of been haye, he left the country to get away from clubbing. Getting sparked out could of been part of the decision to leave.

[Decebal]

No way was it Haye!:bart

[janitor]

Was this a prime Hamed? I suppose the guy was only 5'3'' and there are plenty of guys in clubs capable of destroying him.


Even a bantemweight will utterly destroy the average 17 stone guy all being equal.

[Snorkel]

No way was it Haye!:bart

It wouldn't sursprise me if this rumour is the only way he can get back at Haye after he sparked one of Frank's cash cows.

Either way, it's a fairly pathetic thing to do, but I can't say I'm entirely surprised.

[Decebal]

It wouldn't sursprise me if this rumour is the only way he can get back at Haye after he sparked one of Frank's cash cows.

Either way, it's a fairly pathetic thing to do, but I can't say I'm entirely surprised.

Except this is a really unbelievable rumour; I mean, if a mate of mine said he'd seen it with his own eyes, I'd still question whether he didn't confuse Haye with some other bloke...:think

Haye goes to town to pick up women and have a good time with his mates, not to look for trouble; he is too well-adjusted and secure, emotionally for that....and I'm sure it would have been all over the papers if this had happened to "playboy Haye" - must have been a more quiet, less profile guy...

[Snorkel]

Except this is a really unbelievable rumour; I mean, if a mate of mine said he'd seen it with his own eyes, I'd still question whether he didn't confuse Haye with some other bloke...:think

Haye goes to town to pick up women and have a good time with his mates, not to look for trouble; he is too well-adjusted and secure, emotionally for that....and I'm sure it would have been all over the papers if this had happened to "playboy Haye" - must have been a more quiet, less profile guy...

I agree with you, it sounds like nonsense. I was insinuating that ****** made it up entirely as some sort of cheap dig at Haye, a man who he's spent plenty of time slagging off because he had the gall not to sign with him when he went pro.

[Decebal]

I agree with you, it sounds like nonsense. I was insinuating that ****** made it up entirely as some sort of cheap dig at Haye, a man who he's spent plenty of time slagging off because he had the gall not to sign with him when he went pro.

Ah...sorry...I forgot about that bit; only problem with making it up is that he gave so few clues that would link Haye with the rumour that the whole rumour became pointless; on the other hand, if he had made it more specific and Haye would have become a suspect, he could have been sued for making liablous claims...

...so...it's probably a true event...involving a lesser Champ...:good

[Snorkel]

Ah...sorry...I forgot about that bit; only problem with making it up is that he gave so few clues that would link Haye with the rumour that the whole rumour became pointless; on the other hand, if he had made it more specific and Haye would have become a suspect, he could have been sued for making liablous claims...

...so...it's probably a true event...involving a lesser Champ...:good

You're probably right. I don't think Haye would be sufficiently worried about it to sue for libel, though; he seems to have the edge in maturity on Frank.

I'm sure we can agree that Frank ******'s a complete tosspiece, regardless of who he was actually slagging off. Completely pointless thing to do.

[Decebal]

You're probably right. I don't think Haye would be sufficiently worried about it to sue for libel, though; he seems to have the edge in maturity on Frank.

I'm sure we can agree that Frank ******'s a complete tosspiece, regardless of who he was actually slagging off. Completely pointless thing to do.

...pointless especially since it only leads to useless speculation...he didn't give the slightest clue...:bart ...damn!:D

[MON]

When ****** announced this, it was in a week where Haye would have been training and in America. I doubt he'd have been in a club.

Anyway, can't see guys like Woods/Haye getting sparked by a random, they'd both do serious damage in a street fight.

It will be one of the smaller fighters pissed off his head.

[surreal deal]

Even a bantemweight will utterly destroy the average 17 stone guy all being equal. "All being equal?" as in the big guy is just as determined,pissed off and doesnt slap like a girl?
NO WAY.
If hes a big goofy pacifist clown,its not equal.
If he can fight,the bantamweight goes down 9 out of 10.

[robpalmer135]

KCD your mates are full of shit!

I reckon it was McCalister, WBU champ!

[doggyland]

"All being equal?" as in the big guy is just as determined,pissed off and doesnt slap like a girl?
NO WAY.
If hes a big goofy pacifist clown,its not equal.
If he can fight,the bantamweight goes down 9 out of 10.

:deal Bang on

[D.Haye-no1-p4p]

KCD your mates are full of shit!

I reckon it was McCalister, WBU champ!
No chance, I would of heard about that by now.

And whoever said it was probably Haye, what planet are you on?

And I doubt even Hamed was ever laid out. Some people believe anything.

[Decebal]

It's pointless for us to speculate; there aren't any clues.

If someone has seen it or trusts someone who has seen it, then let that person tell us, but that's as far as we'll ever get to knowing...

If no one has seen it or no one wants to tell or no one trusts those who claim they've seen it, well, that's the end of it.

[PrideOfWales]

If we are ruling out Woods because of his size (It would take a brave man to have a go at Sheffield's man of steel in a club) then surely we can rule out the bigger, more imposing Haye who could probably kill you with a stare.

[elle]

I'm not going to speculate who it could be - even ****** himself said it was a rumour. It could just be that.

When I first heard the story though it did remind me of something I read about Maccarinelli - apparently he was involved in an altercation with a doorman at a nightclub in Swansea a few years back and one of them was knocked out!

[brown bomber]

I'm not going to speculate who it could be - even ****** himself said it was a rumour. It could just be that.

When I first heard the story though it did remind me of something I read about Maccarinelli - apparently he was involved in an altercation with a doorman at a nightclub in Swansea a few years back and one of them was knocked out! It was a stupid and pointless article... It really has nothing to do with boxing.

[Decebal]

In any case...if we knew who it was, what would it prove?:huh

Nothing! If you want to prove yourself in boxing, you need to get into the ring, not try to spark boxers who are out relaxing and having a good time in the clubs...It's like me saying I know a guy who won a debate with Galloway whilst on the bus...who cares? Galloway certainly wouldn't have cared!

[PrideOfWales]

In any case...if we knew who it was, what would it prove?:huh

Nothing! If you want to prove yourself in boxing, you need to get into the ring, not try to spark boxers who are out relaxing and having a good time in the clubs...It's like me saying I know a guy who won a debate with Galloway whilst on the bus...who cares? Galloway certainly wouldn't have cared!

Was the debate about I-rack?

[Decebal]

Was the debate about I-rack?

No...it was just a hypothetical...:lol:

:good

[StWerburghs]

In any case...if we knew who it was, what would it prove?:huh

Nothing! If you want to prove yourself in boxing, you need to get into the ring, not try to spark boxers who are out relaxing and having a good time in the clubs...It's like me saying I know a guy who won a debate with Galloway whilst on the bus...who cares? Galloway certainly wouldn't have cared!


Exactly right....getting knocked out in a club or pub is meanigless. He could of been sucker punched, while standing relaxed with his mouth wide open swinging in the air.

I wouldnt believe Frank ****** anyway, he probably just heard a rumour at the bingo.

[Bomber_uk]

Hamed ( allegedly ) got put down ( but not out ) outside a Nightclub in Rotherham called Pacha many many years ago......

[brown bomber]

Hamed ( allegedly ) got put down ( but not out ) outside a Nightclub in Rotherham called Pacha many many years ago...... Funny I heard exactly the same bullshit story about Blackpool.

[dwilson]

Funny I heard exactly the same bullshit story about Blackpool.


He got done over in Leeds once too. He has got quite abit of a reputation for been a dickhead and causing trouble.

[brown bomber]

Its a load of shite.... I got told by one of my Doorman mates that he and his friends had a scrap with Ricky Hatton and all his mates in Blackpool and did them in.. I was like 'I know Ricky i'll have to ask him about that one' and he changed his story to Ricky was in there a bit earliar and some of his pals stayed after he left and had to be ejected.... Something tells me he didn't change the story for anybody else. muppet.

[Bomber_uk]

Funny I heard exactly the same bullshit story about Blackpool.

Hmm, the only thing that gave it credence in my eyes was the fact that I know Hamed did used to frequent Pacha quite regular in those days. I saw him a few times larging it around Roth but like I said I never saw it so cannot say it defo happened.............


I like to think it did though :D

[brown bomber]

Hmm, the only thing that gave it credence in my eyes was the fact that I know Hamed did used to frequent Pacha quite regular in those days. I saw him a few times larging it around Roth but like I said I never saw it so cannot say it defo happened.............


I like to think it did though :D Yeah perhaps in Hameds case its wishful thinking.... I've always had a soft spot for the prince though...

[Bomber_uk]

Great boxing talent but a poor person imo

[robpalmer135]

I can tell you 100% the only guy to win any kind of fight agaisnt Hammed since he was 18 was Marco Antonio Barrera.

No Pro boxer would loose a fight against the average "hard nut". NO WAY NO CHANCE. As boxing fans you guys should realise how hard someone that has been taught how to punch properly and has taken a punch can hit and how hard they can be hit. Hammed would still crush 99.9% of people in a fight.

Everyone knows chaves are full of shit. All these storys are people trying to make themselves look hard. I remember at Uni some chav kid telling me he had beaten up Khan and he was a blackbelt in some marshall art, I kicked the shit of him and I don't know shit. PEOPLE BULLSHIT!

[robpalmer135]

A funny a very true story about hamed, and i'm quite ashamed of it really........ i was walking down deansgate(manchester) with a friend of mine and he spotted hamed and his brother standing next to thier range rover giving it the big one. I went over to say hello and get my friend his autograph and when i nudged him on the shoulder he sais"who the fuck do you think your touching" i was surprised to say the least and said i didn't mean it and then his brother riath said "fuck off" i absolutely lost it and grabeed both by the throat and threatend to kill them and all that shit. I am very saddened by the way i acted but thats life. What makes it even worse is that i am coming back from a very bad shoulder injury and want to turn pro myself but i would never EVER act like that smug c*nt and his brother. This happend around a year a go by the way.

Last night Doc Brown came parked up outside my house in his De Loreon. We went forward to next Sunday and then traveled on hoverboards all the way to america to watch Wrestlemaina. During the match between Floyd Mayweather and the Big Show i ran in the ring, pulled down my pants, beat up the big show, then had a 15 round toe to toe battle with Floyd Money May which i won by split decision. Elvis, Jimmi Hendrix and Gary Glitter were in the audience, Gary performed that night and people loved it, his pretty big in America. Later that night Jessica Alba showed up we theN jumped on the hoveroardas and went all the way to the moon, we then watched Acpoloypse Now on Beta Max.

[lbarrow]

when he says world champ dont think he means rees calzaghe or anyone he probably means one with a phoney titlelikethe wbu or wbf

[elle]

Prince Hamed was a superb talent but some of his behaviour outside the ring leaves a lot to be desired.

I would have liked to have seen him show more remorse for his driving offences considering it was reported that he broke every major bone in one of his victims body and caused bruising to his brain leaving the guy unable to ever work again.

[Bomber_uk]

Last night Doc Brown came parked up outside my house in his De Loreon. We went forward to next Sunday and then traveled on hoverboards all the way to america to watch Wrestlemaina. During the match between Floyd Mayweather and the Big Show i ran in the ring, pulled down my pants, beat up the big show, then had a 15 round toe to toe battle with Floyd Money May which i won by split decision. Elvis, Jimmi Hendrix and Gary Glitter were in the audience, Gary performed that night and people loved it, his pretty big in America. Later that night Jessica Alba showed up we theN jumped on the hoveroardas and went all the way to the moon, we then watched Acpoloypse Now on Beta Max.


:rofl

[elle]

when he says world champ dont think he means rees calzaghe or anyone he probably means one with a phoney titlelikethe wbu or wbf

Talking of Rees, I think he was banned for a year by the BBBofC for knocking out a mourner at a funeral.

[dwilson]

Naz is the biggest chav on the planet. Even worse than that fat pot head who won the lottery a few year back.

I do not care if all (and there are about an 100 of them) Naz getting knocked out stories are true. What matters is that it makes people happy to hear a piece of shit like that might have been done over. The one I heard of that happened in Leeds was told to my a police buddy of mine. It might be bullshit but it made me happy.

[elle]

i am coming back from a very bad shoulder injury and want to turn pro myself


Hope you get over your injury. What weight are you looking to fight at if you turn pro?

[robpalmer135]

He is gonna fight at phantom weight, as in the division that doesnn't exsist for people that are full of shit!

[robpalmer135]

OK so if I am an Internet tough then you are an All Action hero who can beat up one of the best boxers in history and his borther.

You should expect banter from such a ridiclious story, whether its true or not................TOUGH GUY!

[robpalmer135]

Maybe if your Idol was Louis Walsh it would be believable that you you grabed him and his brother by the throat and they shit themselves.

Lets see you amateur Record, people on here and myself would have heard of you whats your real name?

[elle]

To Elle i will be a light-heavyweight.


To Teddy - hope your plans to turn pro work out and you make an impact at light-heavy! :good

[Decebal]

I dont have to prove fuck all to you as your just a armchair critic, who has no sway in the world of boxing and never will. When i make my pro debut i will post on here before, so it should be around september time(injury permitting):good :good :good

You're right, mate! You've got nothing to prove to anyone here; good luck!:good

[Decebal]

Thanks, i will say this though. I won a bronze medal at the world champs in another combat sport

Wow! That is AMAZING! Great stuff, mate!:happy :happy :happy

but even though i am 27 now i still think i can make an impact on the lhw scene in the uk and beyond.

I wishe you the very best of luck!:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

I would like some advice on a rotator cuff injuries if anybody can help. Thanks.

My advice is to see the best specialist out there (money can buy).

We're just a bunch of lads and lasses; not sure if any of us are qualified to give much advice on the topic. Hope all goes well...:good

[Decebal]

Thanks i will keep you updated mate.

Good luck!:thumbsup

[brown bomber]

Thanks, i will say this though. I won a bronze medal at the world champs in another combat sport but even though i am 27 now i still think i can make an impact on the lhw scene in the uk and beyond. I would like some advice on a rotator cuff injuries if anybody can help. Thanks. Are you still suffering with the injury- if so you'll not recieve any good news from a physio regarding this injury.. When I tore my intecostel muscles in my chest the physio thought initially may have been a RC injury.. He said it would be a career ender and i'm 26.

[PrideOfWales]

I would like some advice on a rotator cuff injuries if anybody can help. Thanks.

Jeff Lacy might be able to help you. I know a guy who beat him up as well and he looked shit scared.

[brown bomber]

I have been to a specialist and he said it would never be the same again but that was 2 years ago and it has got a lot better. its only when i miss a punch (sparring, pads, bag) that it really hurts and also in the cold. I'm taking things slowly at the moment so who knows. Are you still at bobby rimmers? whats it like down their? I'm not training at the moment m8 so no i'm not down there unfortunately but if things change and I want to get back into it I wouldn't want to train anywhere else- it was fantastic! Where you from?

[D.Haye-no1-p4p]

Why is it a ridiculous story? If someone you idolised when you were a kid really pissed you off and then his brother took the piss out of you would you just stand their and let it happen? I never said i beat him up, i lost my temper and the truth is they absolutely shit themselves....just shows what sort of people they really are doesn't it. Your just trying to wind me up. Would it also be rediculous if i said i used to have wars with david haye in the gym when we were both 17? Yes, well thats true as well.
Please shut the fuck up, your nose is getting longer with every word you type.

[robpalmer135]

at last someone that agrees with me.

sorry mate but you story sounds like bullshit. maybe if other people didnt lie so much it wouldn't be so bad.

I dont really like armchair critic comment , if you have any ambition of being a pro boxer then you should realise its armchair fans like myself that pay the bills!!! and 95% of the guys on this forum are armchair fans.

with regards to your injury its all dependent on which muscles your have injured. if its the 2 lesser ones you should be ok, if its the 2 major muscles it could be bad. if its all 4 your pretty fucked. TBH the fact that you feel it when it gets cold is also a bad sign as it shows the muscle is weak. Theres all sorts of exercises that you can do to strenghtn the muscles again, I would not imagine that any form of boxing is good for it as that part of your body is a huge part of throwing a proper technincly perfect punch, lifting light weights and getting heavier is best. Although if it was 2 years ago i would imagine you are way ahead of that.

Im not docter though, i just read alot, Sports injuries are pretty fascinating.

[brown bomber]

Currently live in manchester, looking to either go to shannons or rimmers or maybe collyhurst. Why are you not training at the mo? Bobby has a smaller stable then Shannon or Collyhurst. If you impress there you'll have some good sparring and one to one tuition.. I'd recommend bobbys. Collyhurst is a gr8 gym too but I enjoyed Bobbys best.

[elle]

even though i am 27 now i still think i can make an impact on the lhw scene in the uk and beyond.


Injury permitting, age shouldn't be a barrier to you turning pro - Gamboa only made his pro debut within the last 12 months and he will also be 27 this year!

Really hope things work out for you.

[robpalmer135]

Not people lying on here, in general when it comes to fights, or starting fights people either exagerate or chat complete shit. A perfect example is the story that this thread started on, was probs some knob head chav from manchester going around saying he KO junior witter to impress hatton.

you should take any story of a boxer involved in fights otuside the ring with a pinch of salt, i certianly do. just like I take storys of guys getting KO in sparring with a pinch of salt.

good luck with the injury, im sure you have done research on the web already, if not defo do you can find alot of good stuff.

[surreal deal]

:deal Bang on
thanks:good

[brown bomber]

Also Jeff why are you not training anymore? Still doing a bit but not really feeling that compelled for hard graft since my injury... I'm weighing up a few ideas at the mo' just feel a bit sick of boxing right now so going to perhaps look at other similer things.

[janitor]

"All being equal?" as in the big guy is just as determined,pissed off and doesnt slap like a girl?
NO WAY.
If hes a big goofy pacifist clown,its not equal.
If he can fight,the bantamweight goes down 9 out of 10.

No no no no.

If you look at actual incidents where a civilian has got into a fight with a boxer as oposed to urban myths, you will see that whatever the weight diference, provided the boxer is under 80, it is short bloody and one sided in favour of the boxer.

[Vantage_West]

Any young guy with a lot of money in a small town is going to come across like that though.i know guys like that with out the cash:lol:

[brown bomber]

No no no no.

If you look at actual incidents where a civilian has got into a fight with a boxer as oposed to urban myths, you will see that whatever the weight diference, provided the boxer is under 80, it is short bloody and one sided in favour of the boxer. In my 6 years on the door I would say that 99.9% of street hardmen cannot fight with any degree of technique or real power they are useless- but there is the odd exception.... It was comical watching them walking into our club with invisible carpets under each arm giving us the hard man nod... We just knew they were going to kick off and when they did -oh dear they were nearly always rubbish.

[Bomber_uk]

In my 6 years on the door I would say that 99.9% of street hardmen cannot fight with any degree of technique or real power they are useless- but there is the odd exception.... It was comical watching them walking into our club with invisible carpets under each arm giving us the hard man nod... We just knew they were going to kick off and when they did -oh dear they were nearly always rubbish.

I assume you worked in Blackpool Jeff, that must have been a thankless task with all the stagdo's etc I bet you earned your corn mate :lol:

[brown bomber]

I assume you worked in Blackpool Jeff, that must have been a thankless task with all the stagdo's etc I bet you earned your corn mate :lol: It was gr8 fun loved every minute.... And got some gr8 storys!!!

[doggyland]

In my 6 years on the door I would say that 99.9% of street hardmen cannot fight with any degree of technique or real power they are useless- but there is the odd exception.... It was comical watching them walking into our club with invisible carpets under each arm giving us the hard man nod... We just knew they were going to kick off and when they did -oh dear they were nearly always rubbish.

That's true - i'm sure...But as per the original post on this 'sub-thread' - a bantam weight would get flattened imo by a lump with the criteria being ' all things being equal'...Boxers can dig and move but they are not Marvel comic characters!
There are exceptions to every rule - but i think the average bloke of proven 'hardness' ( a hardman - not a pissed up bloke with muscles and tattoos)- who has a good 10 stone weight advantage will batter the smaller bloke boxer or not.

[brown bomber]

Its a pointless argument as there are too many intangibles. Street fights even 'straighteners' rarely last beyond the initial contact and if they do they usually end up on the floor. Its usually who gets there first. 9 times out of 10 a decent boxer should be able to be fast and sharp enough to pick a big punch for the first contact- If it ends up on the floor he's fucked unless he can use his agility, concentration and fitness to maneuver into a more dominant position. All in all its a stupid debate as it really depends on the practitioners involved.

[doggyland]

Its a pointless argument as there are too many intangibles. Street fights even 'straighteners' rarely last beyond the initial contact and if they do they usually end up on the floor. Its usually who gets there first. 9 times out of 10 a decent boxer should be able to be fast and sharp enough to pick a big punch for the first contact- If it ends up on the floor he's fucked unless he can use his agility, concentration and fitness to maneuver into a more dominant position. All in all its a stupid debate as it really depends on the practitioners involved.

My thoughts entirely.

[elle]

I assume you worked in Blackpool Jeff, that must have been a thankless task with all the stagdo's etc I bet you earned your corn mate :lol:


Not to mention the hen party's - the last couple i've been to have been all weekend affairs at seaside resorts! (not Blackpool though) :good

[brown bomber]

Not to mention the hen party's - the last couple i've been to have been all weekend affairs at seaside resorts! (not Blackpool though) :good I'm gay so i don't look at women.

[elle]

I'm gay so i don't look at women.


If you were a gay guy you would love a night out with us girls!

[brown bomber]

If you were a gay guy you would love a night out with us girls! I've always thought that would be a tremendous tactic for pulling a female... If I was single of course. :lol:

[elle]

I've always thought that would be a tremendous tactic for pulling a female... If I was single of course. :lol:


Great! I'll bear that in mind next time I go for an uncomplicated night out with the girls - be wary of guys posing as gays and making moves on us unsuspecting females! :lol:

[brown bomber]

Great! I'll bear that in mind next time I go for an uncomplicated night out with the girls - be wary of guys posing as gays and making moves on us unsuspecting females! :lol: Yes... I can actually do a really convincing gay impression... I'll save that for my personal time.

[elle]

Yes... I can actually do a really convincing gay impression... I'll save that for my personal time.


Problem is if you were too convincing you wouldn't have as much success at pulling (a female anyway)!

[brown bomber]

Problem is if you were too convincing you wouldn't have as much success at pulling (a female anyway)! Yes... good point. :think

[surreal deal]

- be wary of guys posing as gays and making moves on us unsuspecting females! :lol:
OOOOOOhhh,you bitch,i'll scratch your eyes out.:fight :gayfight

[brown bomber]

OOOOOOhhh,you bitch,i'll scratch your eyes out.:fight :gayfightLove them Smilies

[janitor]

That's true - i'm sure...But as per the original post on this 'sub-thread' - a bantam weight would get flattened imo by a lump with the criteria being ' all things being equal'...Boxers can dig and move but they are not Marvel comic characters!
There are exceptions to every rule - but i think the average bloke of proven 'hardness' ( a hardman - not a pissed up bloke with muscles and tattoos)- who has a good 10 stone weight advantage will batter the smaller bloke boxer or not.

Seriously mate if you pick a 220 lb non boxer, even one who knows how to fight the bantemweight will destroy him 9 times out of 10.

I know a fellow who was in the army and he told me about an ocasion where a 220 lb military policeman got into a fight with a UK grade bantemweight and got utterly destroyed.

[doggyland]

Seriously mate if you pick a 220 lb non boxer, even one who knows how to fight the bantemweight will destroy him 9 times out of 10.

I know a fellow who was in the army and he told me about an ocasion where a 220 lb military policeman got into a fight with a UK grade bantemweight and got utterly destroyed.

I disagree with the 9 out of 10 bit.

As said - it is subjective and silly really .. I have an anecdote that completely turns your statement on its head involving an Irish Light Heavy but that is the point really - maybe mine is the 1 in 10 - maybe yours is.

IMO though - surreal Deal's original post in this thread is what i agree with - " All things being equal, he doesn't hit like a girl etc" the MUCH larger man beats the bantamweight.

Just my opinion :good

[janitor]

I disagree with the 9 out of 10 bit.

As said - it is subjective and silly really .. I have an anecdote that completely turns your statement on its head involving an Irish Light Heavy but that is the point really - maybe mine is the 1 in 10 - maybe yours is.

IMO though - surreal Deal's original post in this thread is what i agree with - " All things being equal, he doesn't hit like a girl etc" the MUCH larger man beats the bantamweight.

Just my opinion :good

I get the idea that the anecdotes where the bantemweight sparks the 220lb man are generaly better substantiated than the anecdotes where Marvin Hagler gets knocked out by the bell boy.

[doggyland]

I get the idea that the anecdotes where the bantemweight sparks the 220lb man are generaly better substantiated than the anecdotes where Marvin Hagler gets knocked out by the bell boy.

If you're asking me to substantiate the aforementioned anecdote - i could - but over PM - two boxers were involved, one well known by British boxing fans, one by Irish boxing fans.

I'm not naming them nor going into sordid details about a fight in a backstreet pub on a public forum - even if it was in 1990.

:hi:

[brown bomber]

If you're asking me to substantiate the aforementioned anecdote - i could - but over PM - two boxers were involved, one well known by British boxing fans, one by Irish boxing fans.

I'm not naming them nor going into sordid details about a fight in a backstreet pub on a public forum - even if it was in 1990.

:hi:I know a true story about a flyweight journeyman chinning a then unbeaten SportsNetwork fighter form the early ninetiesin a out fof ring altercation.

[Doyley10]

I know a true story about a flyweight journeyman chinning a then unbeaten SportsNetwork fighter form the early ninetiesin a out fof ring altercation.

Well? All you have to do is put "alledgedly" afterwards and Fwankie can't sue you......:D