rees macca could joe be next

[steelem]

rees looked unfit couldnt defend & got insulted in the 12th - macca couldnt defend & didnt wanna fight - i hope joes more prepared - enzo calzaghe is loosing his champs big time now!!

[LiamE]

rees looked unfit couldnt defend & got insulted in the 12th - macca couldnt defend & didnt wanna fight - i hope joes more prepared - enzo calzaghe is loosing his champs big time now!!

Joe is not macca or rees.

[KCD]

Joe IS Newbridge boxing gym, no way on hell he lets his next fight slip.

Lets face it though Enzo got beat by the best in the division, but is still top 5.

Rees really shouldnt be fighting at 140, but he got a chance and took it and the rest is history as they say. I thought he fought valiantly tonight though, no shame in his loss!

[Diablo]

Maybe it will deflate luigi calzaghe's ego a bit. His son is the star..not him.

[Max Molyneux]

Joe's a different league, nothing to worry about here just because Enzo had a couple losses.

[dan-b]

All I will say is this. He arrogantly proclaimed to know how to beat Hopkins after watching just one video. I wonder how many videos of Haye & Kotelnik he watched.

[Dibbs]

Enzo Calzaghe was alot more laid back after the Rees fight compared to his shouting after Enzo Mac lost. Can't see Calzaghe Jr losing, but if he did, that's 3 world champions lost within a few months, must be some kind of record. Then it would be upto Lockett taking on Pavlik. Still it was refreshing to see Lockett being interviewed, he was very down to earth and certainly not under any illusions of the task in front of him.

[John18]

Rees showed the same problem as Macca: backing away in straight lines with hands low and chin in the air.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Joe Calzaghe is Rees or Macarinelli but next month he faces a truely great fighter for the first time in his career albeit an over forty past his best best. I am picking Executioner to execute Joe Calzaghe as Joe's busy southpaw style is made to order for Hopkins the best fighter in the world today against southpaws.

[toffeejack]

All I will say is this. He arrogantly proclaimed to know how to beat Hopkins after watching just one video. I wonder how many videos of Haye & Kotelnik he watched.

I'm not sure he's telling the truth here, he'd be pretty stupid to truely believe that anyway.

I know that Joe has been watching Hopkins for years anyway so even if his father hasn't I'm sure Joe knows what he needs to do.

[stuey]

Joe Calzaghe is Rees or Macarinelli but next month he faces a truely great fighter for the first time in his career albeit an over forty past his best best. I am picking Executioner to execute Joe Calzaghe as Joe's busy southpaw style is made to order for Hopkins the best fighter in the world today against southpaws.


hopkins is very good, however, joe aint your average southpaw. southies tend to throw straight lefts and circle onto the orthodox fighters jab, joe goes both ways and hooks with the right more than most wrong uns.
the other thing is how much b hop has left. the fight with tarver was like watching two old men.
that said, i agree, this will be a tough one for joe, although not as tough as kessler imo.

[dan-b]

the fight with tarver was like watching two old men.

How so?

[achillesthegreat]

Calzaghes elite. If he loses, he loses, not because something went wrong but because it wasn't his night. Joe won't lose though. He doesn't know how. He has more passion ringside then his team mates have in the ring. Joe has true fire in him that will show when he puts it on Hopkins.

[stuey]

How so?

did you see it? tarver was continually off balance, lunging and sluggish, bhop fought 30 seconds a round. old man like:deal

[faisal]

i think people are over rating hopkins, hopkins age will finally show in this fight and hopefully he'll consider retiring

[Dunky McCafferty]

All I will say is this. I wonder how many videos of Haye & Kotelnik he watched.

According to Rees, Im sure he said in an interview before the fight that they had watched NO videos of Kotlenik on Enzos say so:patsch

[jc]

Rees awas always going to have a hard night, he is simply not a light welter. He should lay of the pie and get down to lightweight, he would be a handle for anyone who doesnt dwarf him thats for sure.

he done well to win a world belt and that is something nobody casn dissagree with, but he was seripulsy punching above his weight at 140.

Lets see what he can do at the lower weight, we atleast know now how much of a handfull Gavin can be, he can have a succesful career down there.

[wayne3280]

All I will say is this. He arrogantly proclaimed to know how to beat Hopkins after watching just one video. I wonder how many videos of Haye & Kotelnik he watched.

There's knowing how to beat someone and knowing how to beat someone using a very limited fighter. The former statement might well be true and maybe Enzo knew how to beat both Haye and Kotelnik. But maybe he had no idea how to beat them using Mac and Rees...

[scurlaruntings]

Rees showed the same problem as Macca: backing away in straight lines with hands low and chin in the air.Yes but Enzo is the trainer of the year..:yep

[jc]

its quite obviously Lockett who will be the third.

[Betty Swollocks]

yeah hopefully Joe Calzaghe and Lockett get done too, to end all this rubbish about Enzo and his stable of paper champs

[brown bomber]

Yes but Enzo is the trainer of the year..:yep:lol: I can see a bit of a trend developing.

[steelem]

:lol: I can see a bit of a trend developing.

well you said it 1st jeff - i believe u now

[scurlaruntings]

Bradley after years of not applyying his trade professionally is having a good run now that his dedicated himself to the sport. But the reality is his run will come to an end fairly swiftly and the kid is on borrowed time. I said Enzo wasnt worthy of accolade as trainer of the year as now apart from Joe, who could also possibly loose his stable have been shown up to be severely flawed. His was nothing more than good fortune.

[brown bomber]

Trainer of the year is not just about winning big fights- its about been smart enough to come up with a realistic game plan and showing compassion etc... Think of the Gatti Mcgirt relationship. Enzo C has had two tough fights but if Buddy Mcgirt had been in the corner would Enzo M have been impersonating a statue for the 4 minutes he lasted. Likewise would Rees have struggled to make the weight?

[Dibbs]

Bradley Pryce goes through stages, he goes through a 'dedicated to the sport' phase where he can box quite superbly, then he he goes through the 'macho' phase, chin out, no defence, and he gets stopped usually with alot of facial damage, good to watch but very vunerable..

[scurlaruntings]

Trainer of the year is not just about winning big fights- its about been smart enough to come up with a realistic game plan and showing compassion etc... Think of the Gatti Mcgirt relationship. Enzo C has had two tough fights but if Buddy Mcgirt had been in the corner would Enzo M have been impersonating a statue for the 4 minutes he lasted. Likewise would Rees have struggled to make the weight?Precisely. I certainly didnt see anything from either fighter to make me think they were nothing short of good fortune. And what was Ree`s playing at?:roll: Lockett will be the sure fire next to fall with possibly Joe and Enzo`s stable has crumbled in less than a few months of winnign the award.

[jc]

lol here come the 'I told ya so' boys!

If you turn a domestic level super feather into a WBA light welter champion you deserve your props. Rees was going to lose his belt eventually but the fact that he won it anyway is amazing. When he drops weight he could become a very classy operator. As for him not making weight that has to be down to Rees' love of chocolate hobnobs rather than Enzos ability to torture him in training.

Pryce is still fighting at a competent level when he was dismissed YEARS ago!

He still has the best fighter in Britain.

And Maccarinelli could have had Eddie Futch in his corner, Haye would have still knocked him out. Chances are Big Mac will win a world title again.

The Newbridge gym isnt like the kronk gym or Freddie Roachs gym where the best talent from around the world flock there, these guys come from the same small population, the fact that they have achieved the amount of success they have is outstanding and dont kid yourself into thinkning it has nothing to do with Enzo Calzaghe.

He is an arrogant, loud,stuttering, lil gob shite, but still one of the very best trainers in the world...in fact he is trainer of the year! :hi:

[mike464]

Over the last couple of weeks there have been two fights featuring a skilled older veteran vs younger guy who wins by having a much greater output than his opponents. Nate Campbell beat Juan Diaz up badly and Casamayor stopped Kadsidis. This has lead me to believe it isn't as obvious a Calzaghe victory as I initially thought.

[scurlaruntings]

lol here come the 'I told ya so' boys!

If you turn a domestic level super feather into a WBA light welter champion you deserve your props. Rees was going to lose his belt eventually but the fact that he won it anyway is amazing. When he drops weight he could become a very classy operator. As for him not making weight that has to be down to Rees' love of chocolate hobnobs rather than Enzos ability to torture him in training.

Pryce is still fighting at a competent level when he was dismissed YEARS ago!

He still has the best fighter in Britain.

And Maccarinelli could have had Eddie Futch in his corner, Haye would have still knocked him out. Chances are Big Mac will win a world title again.

The Newbridge gym isnt like the kronk gym or Freddie Roachs gym where the best talent from around the world flock there, these guys come from the same small population, the fact that they have achieved the amount of success they have is outstanding and dont kid yourself into thinkning it has nothing to do with Enzo Calzaghe.

He is an arrogant, loud,stuttering, lil gob shite, but still one of the very best trainers in the world...in fact he is trainer of the year! :hi:But he didnt. Ree`s had a night where fortune was on his side. That had NOTHING to do with Enzo. Enzo cant even get his charge back down to his correct weight at feather and Ree`s had to get naked to make weight at 140!

This isnt i told you so. I questioned his accolade before on another thread i created. Im not going to give him props when in my opinion he wasnt deserving of the award and it was more a case of his stable apart from Joe had very fortunate and carefully guided careers.

[scurlaruntings]

Over the last couple of weeks there have been two fights featuring a skilled older veteran vs younger guy who wins by having a much greater output than his opponents. Nate Campbell beat Juan Diaz up badly and Casamayor stopped Kadsidis. This has lead me to believe it isn't as obvious a Calzaghe victory as I initially thought.A Calzaghe victory has never been a certainty. But Joe is definitly the favoruite based on his current run and youth in comparison to Hopkins. It must be noted that Hopkins records against southpaws is exemplary. He is one of the best current active fighters that knows how to handle southpaws.Bearing in mind Joe is quite easy to hit it should be an interesting affair.

[Max Molyneux]

Over the last couple of weeks there have been two fights featuring a skilled older veteran vs younger guy who wins by having a much greater output than his opponents. Nate Campbell beat Juan Diaz up badly and Casamayor stopped Kadsidis. This has lead me to believe it isn't as obvious a Calzaghe victory as I initially thought.

You can;t compare them to Calzaghe.:rofl

[mike464]

You can't compare Katsidis with Calzaghe but I think Juan Diaz makes a fair comparison. Both have high outputs and have had a couple of decent wins.

[Max Molyneux]

Calzaghe's not that one dimensional.

He can't be compared to Diaz.

Your one dimensional to be judging off resume too much.

[Axl_Nose]

This is no way gonna be an easy fight for Joe, Hopkins has that ring savvy and experience that makes it a hard fight for anybody, even in Bernards defeats it hasnt been easy for his opponent, i think this will be Joes hardest fight, Bernard gets dirty, he uses head, elbows and low blows just like all good experienced fighters, im hoping for a Joe win but hes taking on a wily old pro, not a 'green' Lacy or Kessler, im expecting a Calzaghe win on points but im only thinking about a 2 or 3 point margin after a very cagey fight .......... We all know what Hopkins is gonna do, hes gonna go defensive from the 1st bell, lead Joe on, defend with his defensive shoulder stance and try and land some big counters, as ever with Hopkins this is gonna be a dull fight but can Hopkins get the better of it, my heart says Joe but im gonna look out for the bookies odds on Hopkins and if they are nice and 'patriotic' like they always are with Brit fighters im gonna stick a tenner on Hopkins to outsmart Joe ....

[Axl_Nose]

Calzaghe's not that one dimensional.

He can't be compared to Diaz.

Your one dimensional to be judging off resume too much.

Diaz is not 1 dimensional, he just struggled against a fine boxer, hes still a fantastic fighter who will be a champion again ..... 90% of the time good fighters will lose to good boxers because after 3 or 4 rounds the boxer finds a rhythm and the fighter is predictable, boxers are far more adaptable and have more options than straight up fighters, but the fighters always have a punchers chance, i just think Diaz came up against an experienced guy who did a job on him, Diaz needs to learn from this and learn a plan B, other great fighters never had a plan B if things werent goin they're way, e.g. Foreman, Tyson, Chavez

[The taff]

lol here come the 'I told ya so' boys!

If you turn a domestic level super feather into a WBA light welter champion you deserve your props. Rees was going to lose his belt eventually but the fact that he won it anyway is amazing. When he drops weight he could become a very classy operator. As for him not making weight that has to be down to Rees' love of chocolate hobnobs rather than Enzos ability to torture him in training.

Pryce is still fighting at a competent level when he was dismissed YEARS ago!

He still has the best fighter in Britain.

And Maccarinelli could have had Eddie Futch in his corner, Haye would have still knocked him out. Chances are Big Mac will win a world title again.

The Newbridge gym isnt like the kronk gym or Freddie Roachs gym where the best talent from around the world flock there, these guys come from the same small population, the fact that they have achieved the amount of success they have is outstanding and dont kid yourself into thinkning it has nothing to do with Enzo Calzaghe.

He is an arrogant, loud,stuttering, lil gob shite, but still one of the very best trainers in the world...in fact he is trainer of the year! :hi:

I couldn't agree more - Good post :good

[elle]

There is no doubt losing two of your three world champs in the space of a fortnight is a blow to the Enzo Calzaghe stable.

Another of their fighters, Kerry Hope, lost too.

Not a particularly good omen before Joe's fight with Hopkins.

[Max Molyneux]

Diaz is not 1 dimensional, he just struggled against a fine boxer, hes still a fantastic fighter who will be a champion again ..... 90% of the time good fighters will lose to good boxers because after 3 or 4 rounds the boxer finds a rhythm and the fighter is predictable, boxers are far more adaptable and have more options than straight up fighters, but the fighters always have a punchers chance, i just think Diaz came up against an experienced guy who did a job on him, Diaz needs to learn from this and learn a plan B, other great fighters never had a plan B if things werent goin they're way, e.g. Foreman, Tyson, Chavez

He's comparing Calzaghe to a Lightweight though who doesn't box like Joe.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

hopkins is very good, however, joe aint your average southpaw. southies tend to throw straight lefts and circle onto the orthodox fighters jab, joe goes both ways and hooks with the right more than most wrong uns.
the other thing is how much b hop has left. the fight with tarver was like watching two old men.
that said, i agree, this will be a tough one for joe, although not as tough as kessler imo.

Joe is no ordinary Joe of that there is no doubt but Hopkins is no slouch either. Joe will be facing the best fighter he has ever faced and the only fighter he has faced who can really be considered a great fighter. Kessler like Eubank was a good fighter with limitations. Hopkins has beaten all types of southpaws and he has Joe's number.

[Max Molyneux]

Hopkins has looked bad vs guys not as good as Joe and when you lose to Jermain Taylor and have a close fight with an overweight Winky Wright, then Calzaghe Is going to not have a hard time beating you.