View Full Version : On Amir Khans chin and heart
Big N Bad
03-23-2008, 12:53 PM
people keep saying khan hasnt got a chin, he's gonna be the next to get sparked, so i thought i'd make a thread about what 'I' thought about his chin and heart and see if anyone agrees. ;)
amir khan has definetly shown us he has a helluva heart, when he fought limmond. and trust me you need heart to go to the olympics on your own, and fight against the best amatuer men in the world at the age of 17!!!
in his autobiography, amir mentions him getting tagged in one of of his amatuer fights against a senior, and his legs went, he went down. GOT UP, and finished the fight beautifully! that takes heart! :deal
i think his chin is like a felix trinidad, he will probably have more than a few knock downs, but he'll come back and win. trinidad was knocked down alot early in his career, and then he'd comeback and stop em. similar to what happened to amir against limmond, only the knockdowns werent that brutal.
his chicken dance against craig watson in the amatuers was worrying! he got up and give watson a good hammering. this shows he has great recovery powers, something which is crucial in boxing.
to be fair, amir has never ever been stopped in 99 amatuer fights and 16 pro fights. anyone can wobble when they get tagged, even tua was stopped in the amatuers.
:good
The problem Amir has with his chin is that ****** is going to extremes to keep him out of the ring with anyone with anything near a decent KO percentage.
Even if his chin isn't that bad, it is impossible to tell at this stage due to the level of puncher he has been in with. It just raises more questions than answers. He was in a bad way for a bit against Limond, a SF without a notable KO record. This too adds to the questions
Betty Swollocks
03-23-2008, 01:07 PM
you can take it as gospel he's got no chin
Amir needs to fight a heavy handed opponent to get used to being hit and hurt. Because at this rate he is being fed soft punchers, even Earl whom is an average puncher at best was being billed as a big puncher(although that didnt matter in the fight!), and what happens when he gets in the ring after being spoon fed light punchers and gets hit off a guy who can punch? He will be wondering what the fuck is going on!
brown bomber
03-23-2008, 02:23 PM
Ali and Tyson were both stopped in the amateurs.... He hasn't got a solid chin by any means but I do think people are over critical due to FW super careful matchmaking. Avoiding Jon Thaxton and Romanov is inexcusible.
Beatboxer
03-23-2008, 03:53 PM
I can't stand Khan.
He attracts the same mindless idiots to the sport that Hatton does for some reason.
Aside from that, he seems arrogant, dismissive and never stops going on about the large asian fanbase at any fucking venue he fights at.
The fact that his matchmaking is an example of ****** at his worst, even though I get the impression the guy wants to fight the best at world level right now due to his over inflated ego, makes him easier to dislike still.
As has already been said, the Thaxton fight really is a must at this point in his development.
Claypole
03-23-2008, 05:43 PM
I don't understand this idea that Amir Khan has loads of heart. He may well have, but we don't really know yet. Coming back to beat Limond after nearly getting stopped simply indicates that he can pull through a hairy moment against a light hitter at domestic level. How would he fare if he got dragged into deep water by one of the dangerous fighters out there?
As for his chin, it looks to me like Khan really dislikes taking punches. At some point he will have to duke it out with somebody tasty, yet won't even prepare himself with a fight against somebody like Jon Thaxton.
jamel
03-23-2008, 05:48 PM
I can't stand Khan.
He attracts the same mindless idiots to the sport that Hatton does for some reason.
Aside from that, he seems arrogant, dismissive and never stops going on about the large asian fanbase at any fucking venue he fights at.
The fact that his matchmaking is an example of ****** at his worst, even though I get the impression the guy wants to fight the best at world level right now due to his over inflated ego, makes him easier to dislike still.
As has already been said, the Thaxton fight really is a must at this point in his development. Thaxton will be beat by Romanov
BIG WORM
03-23-2008, 06:20 PM
khans the next big thing!!!
brown bomber
03-23-2008, 07:56 PM
khans the next big thing!!!:lol: point proven.
Claypole
03-23-2008, 08:07 PM
Thaxton will be beat by RomanovKhan won't even fight the loser of this one.
GazOC
03-23-2008, 08:15 PM
I can't stand Khan.
He attracts the same mindless idiots to the sport that Hatton does for some reason.
You should have been at the Enzo-Haye fight. It isn't specific boxers attracting idiots, its just when boxing gets 'mainstream'.
Beatboxer
03-23-2008, 08:17 PM
You should have been at the Enzo-Haye fight. It isn't specific boxers attracting idiots, its just when boxing gets 'mainstream'.
Good point.
Its not Khans fault I suppose.
Though I still don't like the arrogant little toss.
I hope Khan is having some tough sparring.
Unless he's having tough sparring with some punchers, he's not going to learn how to take REAL punishment. The feather fisted guys he's fighting at the moment are not teaching him anything.
Any idea who he does spar with?
(Naseem used to spar with heavyweights, I don't want Khan going that far as he may have his chin removed from the rest of his face)
GazOC
03-23-2008, 08:30 PM
Though I still don't like the arrogant little toss.
Well thats a separate issue....:lol::good
Steve Fox
03-23-2008, 08:37 PM
What is Amir Khan's chin and heart? A new variety of middle-eastern cat food?
Vantage_West
03-23-2008, 09:59 PM
What is Amir Khan's chin and heart? A new variety of middle-eastern cat food?:verysad
UK2004
03-23-2008, 11:07 PM
Difference with Trinidad and Khan is Trinidad had brutal power in both hands and had one punch knock out power whereas Khan relies on punches in bunches and speed. Very different fighters.
dwilson
03-24-2008, 05:44 AM
Chin has shown little heart so far in his career. A get out of jail free card got him through the Limond fight and he has not had one testing opponent apart from on that one night.
His chin looks dodgy but this fact is made worse by awful "no bottle" match making.
The main problem with Khan is not his chin or heart it is the fact he is a punch shy coward.
kerrminator
03-24-2008, 05:46 AM
It might be some time before we find out
Hatton had to wait until Tszyu for his first decent test and JC waited until Kessler for his first top test (I didnt rate Lacy) and those were ****** fighters without a suspect chin, Khan will probably be 43 when he gets a decent opponent lol
brown bomber
03-24-2008, 06:08 AM
hamed body sparred with heavies. Not really a big deal.
I don't understand this idea that Amir Khan has loads of heart. He may well have, but we don't really know yet. Coming back to beat Limond after nearly getting stopped simply indicates that he can pull through a hairy moment against a light hitter at domestic level. How would he fare if he got dragged into deep water by one of the dangerous fighters out there?
As for his chin, it looks to me like Khan really dislikes taking punches. At some point he will have to duke it out with somebody tasty, yet won't even prepare himself with a fight against somebody like Jon Thaxton.
Agree, when he has been hit he has a look on his face as though "shit thats not ment to happen", as though the opponent is going against the script by hitting back. Also i have noticed in a few of his fights when he does get hit he stops dead instead of moving away.
Claypole
03-24-2008, 07:51 AM
When I watched Khan against St. Claire, I didn't see much improvement to when he fought in the Olympics. Physically he has matured, and his fitness level has increased, but apart from that I can't really see how he's got much better.
I don't buy into this idea that he will develop into an amazing fighter, I reckon he is closer to his peak than a lot of people think.
Steviewonder
03-24-2008, 07:56 AM
Is it at all possible that Amir's ability to take a shot could improve as he develops, especially if he starts taking hard shots?
Perhaps when he moves up a weight, he'll be stronger? I get the feeling he's a bit tight at the weight he usually fights at now, there was something about him having a very low bodyfat percentage. That's not a good idea.
Dan MT
03-24-2008, 10:16 AM
Is it at all possible that Amir's ability to take a shot could improve as he develops, especially if he starts taking hard shots?
Perhaps when he moves up a weight, he'll be stronger? I get the feeling he's a bit tight at the weight he usually fights at now, there was something about him having a very low bodyfat percentage. That's not a good idea.
Yeah i'm pretty sure its only 8%.
brown_bomber
03-24-2008, 07:12 PM
I can't stand Khan.
He attracts the same mindless idiots to the sport that Hatton does for some reason.
Aside from that, he seems arrogant, dismissive and never stops going on about the large asian fanbase at any fucking venue he fights at.
The fact that his matchmaking is an example of ****** at his worst, even though I get the impression the guy wants to fight the best at world level right now due to his over inflated ego, makes him easier to dislike still.
As has already been said, the Thaxton fight really is a must at this point in his development.
:lol: oh well atleast it gains more coverage on news
When I watched Khan against St. Claire, I didn't see much improvement to when he fought in the Olympics.
The Khan v St Clair fight was little more than an exercise for Khan to get 12 rounds under his belt.
It wasn't a competitive affair and I found it quite frustrating to watch.
Decebal
03-25-2008, 10:54 AM
Not directly relevant, but still...I wasn thinking that even if Khan breaks the record of Hamed, for the youngest British World Champ, it wouldn't prove what he in his heart of hearts hopes it would prove - that he is, or will ever be, better than Hamed...:yep
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brown bomber
03-25-2008, 11:29 AM
Fact... Khan was a better amateur then Khan.
Opinion... He will NEVER scale the same heights as Hamed as a pro.
Decebal
03-25-2008, 11:31 AM
Fact... Khan was a better amateur then Khan.
Are you sure?:think I mean, really sure?:think
:lol: :good
brown bomber
03-25-2008, 11:32 AM
Are you sure?:think I mean, really sure?:think
:lol: :good:lol: No .
robpalmer135
03-25-2008, 11:34 AM
I don't think anyone ever doubted his heart! Or did they
LeadLeftHook
03-25-2008, 11:40 AM
Khans trainer thinks Khan isnt focussed enough.
Oliver Harrision said about "He is a celebrity and has to sign autographs and answer questions instead of concentrating on the fight. He has to minimise this and concentrate on his boxing. He has to start to say no'."
Khans trainer thinks Khan isnt focussed enough.
Oliver Harrision said about "He is a celebrity and has to sign autographs and answer questions instead of concentrating on the fight. He has to minimise this and concentrate on his boxing. He has to start to say no'."
Thats interesting - was this a recent comment by Harrison?
I've often thought Khan should concentrate more on his boxing rather than the distractions of being a media personality.
Claypole
03-25-2008, 04:09 PM
I've often thought Khan should concentrate more on his boxing rather than the distractions of being a media personality.I would settle for him to concentrate on his driving for now.
I would settle for him to concentrate on his driving for now.
he definitely should not concentrate on his boxing whilst driving. similiarly he should not concentrate on driving whilst boxing.
both would be equally suicidal.
Cobbler
03-25-2008, 04:35 PM
I would settle for him to concentrate on his driving for now.
I dont think he's allowed to concentrate on his driving for another month or so yet?
Geoffers
03-25-2008, 04:43 PM
Earl was shot, but Khan didn't know that when he got in the ring with him. He may have suspected it, but he couldn't have known it. Earl dropped Katsidis in his previous fight and could easily have landed one on Khan.
Khan took that chance. Does that win him nothing with you guys?
Claypole
03-25-2008, 05:27 PM
Does that win him nothing with you guys?Amir Khan (like any boxer) takes a risk everytime he fights, so I respect him for that. I reckon Amir had a pretty good idea Earl was finished when they fought. FW is very good at what he does, and Khan trusts his judgment.
I would settle for him to concentrate on his driving for now.
Don't get me started on Khan's driving again. :patsch
Geoffers
03-25-2008, 05:49 PM
FW is very good at what he does
Tell that to Enzo :rofl:hey
UK2004
03-25-2008, 05:51 PM
Khan got off the driving wihtout due care and attention when he wsa clocked at 50mph in 30mph limit going through a red light and smashing the guy up on the crossing, scumbag!
Claypole
03-25-2008, 06:32 PM
Tell that to Enzo :rofl:heyI think FW knew full well what the outcome of that fight ws going to be. I bet he had a few bob on Haye that night...
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