Should there be a rematch between Katsidis vs Casamayor?

[geppy]

Katsidis vs Casamayor was a great competitive action fight. Would you like to see an immediate rematch?

Katsidis was knocked down twice early, showed alot of heart and came back with a vengence, landing many big shots until the stoppage. It was really a stupid way to lose, Katsidis ran across the ring throwing wild, wreckless punches and ran right into a punch. He was probably winning the fight quite clearly. It looked he just went all out, looking to stop the fight then and that wasnt needed ( lol, like his normal aggression isn't enough).

[klion22]

YES!

But i'm almost certain Casamayor doesn't want Katsidis again.

[compukiller]

No. Katsidis put up a great effort, but Casa won fair and square and he is not getting any younger. He deserves a big fight.

[BigBone]

If Katsidis can work his way back to the world title challenger level, there should be a rematch... but immidiate rematch for an outclassed fighter for a WORLD TITLE is not legitimate in boxing IMO... it's a joke that Paul Williams and Lovemore N'Dou can have a rematch for a world title after they got outclassed badly...

Casamayor-Katsidis was a GREAT fight and I'd like to see a second fight but Katsidis has to put down something on the table, and on the other hand, Casamayor has to fight Santa Cruz if I'm correct.

[Darthmage]

Kat's should get a rematch, but honestly, casa won't give it to him.

[cardstars]

No. This fight told us everything we need to know about each fighter :D
That was probably Casa's last good performance we will see out of him. He will cash out against Pac (getting his face beaten to a pulp) and Katsidis will go on to give us many more exciting fights and be a great gatekeeper until the punishment has taken its toll

[geppy]

If Katsidis can work his way back to the world title challenger level, there should be a rematch... but immidiate rematch for an outclassed fighter for a WORLD TITLE is not legitimate in boxing IMO... it's a joke that Paul Williams and Lovemore N'Dou can have a rematch for a world title after they got outclassed badly...

Casamayor-Katsidis was a GREAT fight and I'd like to see a second fight but Katsidis has to put down something on the table, and on the other hand, Casamayor has to fight Santa Cruz if I'm correct.

Outclassed? Bullshit! He knocked Casamayor's ass out of the ring and pummeled him throughout the middle rounds, I bet he was acctually winning the fight.

[younghov2k4]

No. Katsidis put up a great effort, but Casa won fair and square and he is not getting any younger. He deserves a big fight.

i agree with Casa deserving a bigger fight.

i think Katsidid should get a tune up first so he can work on his defense and get some more experience. right now i think Casa beats him again.

[compukiller]

Outclassed? Bullshit! He knocked Casamayor's ass out of the ring and pummeled him throughout the middle rounds, I bet he was acctually winning the fight.

Yes he was outclassed. Katsidis did well in rds 4-6, and did knock Casa out of the ring.

But Casa won the other rds, even the one with the point deduction. He was totally outboxing Katsidis in rds 7-9 and in the 10th, he KTFO'ed him.

He does not owe Katsidis anything. Katsidis gave it his all, but was KTFO. And you can't say it was a lucky punch, as he was getting dropped multiple times.

[blood_lust]

If Katsidis can work his way back to the world title challenger level, there should be a rematch... but immidiate rematch for an outclassed fighter for a WORLD TITLE is not legitimate in boxing IMO... it's a joke that Paul Williams and Lovemore N'Dou can have a rematch for a world title after they got outclassed badly...

Casamayor-Katsidis was a GREAT fight and I'd like to see a second fight but Katsidis has to put down something on the table, and on the other hand, Casamayor has to fight Santa Cruz if I'm correct.
Some of the posters here are idiots. Katsidis wasn't outclassed by any means, as he was wining a very competitive fight (as he swept all the middle rounds) and walked into a punch he didn't see mainly due to being overanxious and foolhardy. Additionally, that was probably the most Casamayor has ever been hurt in his career. He was even more hurt against Katsidis than he was when he fought Corrales.

Casamayor was/is a great fighter (elite with an amazing pedigree). All of his losses were controversial.

Katsidis showed a lot of positives, and he will definitely be much more than a gatekeep. He is a young prospect (with only 24 fights) whowasthisclose to beating a GREAT fighter (and the linear lightweight champion of the world), who showed that he still had fight left him after all.

[compukiller]

i agree with Casa deserving a bigger fight.

i think Katsidid should get a tune up first so he can work on his defense and get some more experience. right now i think Casa beats him again.

Casa is just too good of a counter puncher, even at this advanced age. If this were prime Casa, he probably would have blasted Katsidis out early.

[kirk]

i have no problem with the bastard moving on... he dropped kat early and stopped him late... kat showed he was a good warrior and yes, maybe things would be differant in a rematch, but Casa has every right to move on... he is the champion and its up to the challenger to do more then just put up a great effort to get a rematch.

[cardstars]

Some of the posters here are idiots. Katsidis wasn't outclassed by any means, as he was wining a very competitive fight (as he swept all the middle rounds) and walked into a punch he didn't see mainly due to being overanxious and foolhardy. Additionally, that was probably the most Casamayor has ever been hurt in his career. He was even more hurt against Katsidis than he was when he fought Corrales.

Casamayor was/is a great fighter (elite with an amazing pedigree). All of his losses were controversial.

Katsidis showed a lot of positives, and he will definitely be much more than a gatekeep. He is a young prospect (with only 24 fights) whowasthisclose to beating a GREAT fighter (and the linear lightweight champion of the world), who showed that he still had fight left him after all.

Casa is nowhere near an elite fighter. And Katsidis....well.....he can obviously be outboxed by B level guys

[compukiller]

i have no problem with the bastard moving on... he dropped kat early and stopped him late... kat showed he was a good warrior and yes, maybe things would be differant in a rematch, but Casa has every right to move on... he is the champion and its up to the challenger to do more then just put up a great effort to get a rematch.

Why do you hate casa? He is a prick, but so are many, many, many boxers.

[geppy]

Yes he was outclassed. Katsidis did weels in rds 4-6, and did knock Casa out of the ring.

But Casa won the other rds, even the one with the point deduction. He was totally outboxing Katsidis in rds 7-9 and in the 10th, he KTFO'ed him.

He does not owe Katsidis anything. Katsidis gave it his all, but was KTFO. And you can't say it was a lucky punch, as he was getting dropped multiple times.

Inside your little head, sure it was an outclassing. Although, to any rational boxing fan could see that Katsidis was bringing the heat and landing many poweful body and head punches. I bet you Katsidis was winning on the judges cards infact, and I beleive Lederman had Michael a few points ahead as well.

[kirk]

Kat's should get a rematch, but honestly, casa won't give it to him. why though? i love Kat but he was the challenger... just because you put up a good challenge to the champion doesnt mean you should get a rematch. That was his shot... now casa moves on to other challengers. Kat can win some more fights and get his rematch that way but imo a rematch just because a challenger put up a good fight, but indeed was soundly vanquished, doesnt make too much sense in the big picture of things. Theres other challengers out there.

[compukiller]

Casa is nowhere near an elite fighter. And Katsidis....well.....he can obviously be outboxed by B level guys


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

So a two division champion, and current lineal 135lb champ knocks out a top ranked lightweight contender as a 4-1 underdog, has a victory over the currently #1 ranked Campbell, and he is not elite???

If he is not elite at 135, tell me....who is???

[blood_lust]

Casa is nowhere near an elite fighter. And Katsidis....well.....he can obviously be outboxed by B level guys
Moron...Casamayor isn't elite and is B-level? That's one of the dumbest things I have heard on a forum. Of course Casamayor is elite and Katsidis proved he belongs among the tops guys at 135. Hello, Katsidis was ahead on two of the judges scorecards, so he wasn't being outboxed the entire fight. Outboxed is Hopkins-Trinidad...

[compukiller]

Inside your little head, sure it was an outclassing. Although, to any rational boxing fan could see that Katsidis was bringing the heat and landing many poweful body and head punches. I bet you Katsidis was winning on the judges cards infact, and I beleive Lederman had Michael a few points ahead as well.

Lederman is a blind fuck, and if you look at the punch stats, Casa landed more, and threw more as well.

And all this is fucking over with anyway. If Katsidis wants a rematch, he can ask for one after he gets out of the fucking hospital and Casa can KTFO him again.

[MagicManPaulie]

no way.. what more can casamayor do? he knocks him down three times and won the fight handly.. and i dont care what anyone says.. katsidid didnt land a shot on the knockdown.. joel was pushed through the ropes..

[klion22]

no way.. what more can casamayor do? he knocks him down three times and won the fight handly.. and i dont care what anyone says.. katsidid didnt land a shot on the knockdown.. joel was pushed through the ropes..

:lol:

[geppy]

Lederman is a blind fuck, and if you look at the punch stats, Casa landed more, and threw more as well.

And all this is fucking over with anyway. If Katsidis wants a rematch, he can ask for one after he gets out of the fucking hospital and Casa can KTFO him again.

Lederman can be blind, but someone pointed out that Casamayor was acctually losing the fight at the time of stoppage on the judges cards.

Punch stats? It aint fucking amatuer boxing, were one landed punch counts for one point, no matter how powerful or insignificant. Katsidis was landing big time shots and winning rounds.

[geppy]

I also think the stoppage was a little quick. But it is a judgement call. Katsidis seems to be a fighter that can take a tremendous beating. The ref jumped in immediately. Perhaps, he could of weathered the storm. Who would of thought the fight would go 10 rounds after the 1st round? Katsidis can recover.

[compukiller]

Lederman can be blind, but someone pointed out that Casamayor was acctually losing the fight at the time of stoppage on the judges cards.

Punch stats? It aint fucking amatuer boxing, were one landed punch counts for one point, no matter how powerful or insignificant. Katsidis was landing big time shots and winning rounds.

He wasn't landing many shots at all in rds 7-9. And if Casa is actually out punching Kastsidis, what else can you go on??

And anyway, Casa got knocked out of the ring, and still got back. Katsidis got stopped because Casa was willing to dig deeper and was quite simply, in every respect, the better fighter.

And that was not a quick stoppage. :nono

[jamel]

why though? i love Kat but he was the challenger... just because you put up a good challenge to the champion doesnt mean you should get a rematch. That was his shot... now casa moves on to other challengers. Kat can win some more fights and get his rematch that way but imo a rematch just because a challenger put up a good fight, but indeed was soundly vanquished, doesnt make too much sense in the big picture of things. Theres other challengers out there.

Casa was the ring mag champ not an official title just a Magazine belt. The only official title on the line was Katsidis WBO interim belt.

[jamel]

:lol: bollocks

[geppy]

And anyway, Casa got knocked out of the ring, and still got back. Katsidis got stopped because Casa was willing to dig deeper and was quite simply, in every respect, the better fighter.

And that was not a quick stoppage. :nono

No, honestly Katsidis got stopped because he is an idiot. He should of won that fight! Katsidis wildly ran right into Casamayor's fist at the start of the 10th.

[RafaelGonzal]

Casa the grand old pro survived last night on skill and guts and some luck, but he is shot the legs are gone the stamina is shaky, reflexes are not what they once were. But he is a wily crafty individaul. He may be 40 yrs old if whats been said id true. I say give the great old amature and pro boxer one last good pay day. A prime Casa would have had Kat out on the 1st last night.

[compukiller]

No, honestly Katsidis got stopped because he is an idiot. He should of won that fight! Katsidis wildly ran right into Casamayor's fist at the start of the 10th.

He got stopped because Casa is a better fighter, plain and simple.

[joekirkbycobra]

katsidas v diaz
casamayor v cambell
winners fight winners losers fights losers
then winner of diaz an pac cum in2 it

[cardstars]

Compukiller and Bloodlust:

You guys call me a moron by saying that Casamayor is not elite-level. :lol: :patsch . All I have to say is that Katsidis is NOWHERE NEAR elite level and Casa was behind on the cards and out on his feet numerous times. Yep, im the moron :-(

[NSX-R]

Absolutely yes to a rematch. Katsidis was owning Casamayor in the middle rounds and knocked him out of the ring. A resurgent Katsidis will give Casa trouble in the future.

[cardstars]

No, but he should rematch Santa Cruz, who is the true lineal IMO

Good call there. Cruz was flat-out ROBBED

[BlueApollo]

No, but he should rematch Santa Cruz, who is the true lineal IMO

That would be the RIGHT thing to have happen, no question. Personally, the fight I'd rather see is Casa - Campbell. Let the old lions have their showdown. The loser then either retires, or HAS to get back in line to fight the Santa Cruzes of the division.

Why does Casa need to rematch Katsidis? He KTFOd him. Close fight, but that case is closed.

[Bummy Davis]

Katsidas is a great prospect by needs work, a good trainer would make a big difference, he has a lot of technical flaws, he was confused by Casamayors Southpaw style...give the kid a few fights and better prepare him for the top, if they had done that he may have won lastnight

[psychopath]

Yes . . . why not? That's an exciting encounter and a close one.

[Toopretty]

Katsidis got tired. He went for broke in the middle rounds and gased out. Casa kept his composure and his gameplan through the storm and KNOCKED that motherfucker OUT. Katsidis did not know where the fuck he was at. He was OUT on his fucking feet. They asked him about the stoppage and he knew he was out. I hate haters. Casa gets a big name. He is an old fighter, he proved he was slicker and better and KNOCKED that motherfucker out fair and square. You dont get an immediate rematch getting put on your ass in fashion.

[Toopretty]

He got stopped because Casa is a better fighter, plain and simple.

Fuck yeah, he showed him he was better in round 1. Katsidis went on mad animal rampage b/c he was getting popped with the jab and counter punched to death when he actually tried to box. He was charging in all round every round b/c that is all he can do. He is swarmer. Thats his thing. He does that every fucking fight. Just b/c Casamayor counterpunched him to high fucking hell and KNOCKED HIM THE FUCK OUT. He was OUT on his feet he was reacting off pure adrenaline.

[Lance_Uppercut]

No, Katsidis gave his effort, but came up short. Back in line and work your way back up.

[Toopretty]

Katsidis even looked like a defeated fighter. He is still going to be a force and I will continue to watch him fight b/c he is what they say ricky hatton is.

[Healy]

I would like to see one yes;)

[geppy]

He is an old fighter, he proved he was slicker and better and KNOCKED that motherfucker out fair and square. You dont get an immediate rematch getting put on your ass in fashion.

Jermain Taylor did. He was knocked out much worse though. Now that is knocked out for your ass, Taylor looked out cold. The ref didn't even bother to count. Fans enjoyed the fight and wanted to see a second fight of Pavlik vs Taylor. I think fans would like to see a rematch of this fight as well.

[bxrfan]

Nah, give Casamayor his much deserved payday.