Andy Lee-Vera on Channel 5 NOW!!

[GazOC]

After the Pryor Jr fight.

[Dunky McCafferty]

After the Pryor Jr fight.

Why thankyou kindly sir, & a chance to hear my hero Teddy Atlas take on the fight too:thumbsup

[Healy]

what channel is that? On SKY? I dont seem to have it

[GazOC]

Its on 105 (Channel 5) mate. I'm watching the Pryor fight now....

[GazOC]

Why thankyou kindly sir, & a chance to hear my hero Teddy Atlas take on the fight too:thumbsup

Well us nightowls have to look out for each other!!!;)

[Dunky McCafferty]

what channel is that? On SKY? I dont seem to have it

Just straight channel 5 on terrestrial tv Healy. Although I dont know if you ROI lads get channel 5 over the sea.

[Healy]

Fuck, i dont hav e it. Have 104 and 106, but nothing in between. Must be the Irish version or something:(

[Dunky McCafferty]

Well us nightowls have to look out for each other!!!;)

:good

[Healy]

Just straight channel 5 on terrestrial tv Healy. Although I dont know if you ROI lads get channel 5 over the sea.
seems that way Dunky:twisted:

[Dunky McCafferty]

seems that way Dunky:twisted:

sad to hear that healy my good man.

[GazOC]

What did you think off Lee, Dunky? He seems to have a decent chin but he keeps his hands way too low IMHO.

[ravi B]

thanks m8
that stop was prematurebut lee needs to learn how to tie up.but he should have finished vera off in the first round
prior is knockout waiing to happen he doesnt know how to throw combos and has non exsistent footwork

[ravi B]

i find it funny tht everytime they say emanual steward they have to say legendry.also did u see the way the commentry team were gushing over lee

[Dunky McCafferty]

What did you think off Lee, Dunky? He seems to have a decent chin but he keeps his hands way too low IMHO.

My goodness, where do I start? Firstly, one of the worst stoppages I have ever seen, if Lee was a scot & got stopped in that fashion, its safe to say I would have been kicking my tv set over in a drunken rage:lol:
Lee has always reminded me of Froch, both have talent but dont have the natural speed of a David Haye to get away with fighting like that.

It was a great fight though, & it kinda reminded me of Arthur v Gomez, Lee should have just stayed on the outside & used his southpaw stance to infuriate his opponent but he got dragged into his opponents fight & paid the price.
To be honest I dont think its the end for Lee, could be a good learning fight for him. He got sucked into a brawl with a limited but tough fighter & paid the ultimte price. Much like a young Arthur against Gomez.

The future is bright for Lee if he learns from his mistakes. & he made many during that fight, but thats what happens with young inexperienced fighters, especially from these shores. The reason I say that is cos american journeymen are a much tougher test than the punchbags that our prospects here fight against. Look at John Murray, when he fought overseas against one of their journeyman recently he almost came unstuck. Its not he end for Andy Lee, providing he stays in America & learns from this fight.

[GazOC]

I hear you mate, you can't just flail away on the inside with your chin in the air against a smaller opponent, he was just playing into Veras hands. It was a premature stoppage but I think Lee was going to get stopped either that round or the next. He still has that amateur 'bounce' in his footwork was well. He's got plenty to work on but at least he showed a good heart and good chin, two things you can't teach.

[Healy]

I agree with both of ye lads

I have watched Lee all through amateurs and pro, he has great ability but i saw some warning signs not so long ago when i saw him getting clocked in a previous fight.
Why you may ask, well it was like as if when he got hit that he didnt know what to do, whether to tie up/back off or throw a punch. He looked confused when getting hit, understandable to a point but there comes a time where you have to expect to get hit. Andy didnt seem to think he was going to get hit that often because of his big reach, southpaw stance and decent ability to box id imagine.

Same thing against Vera

Also i believe it also is Emanuals fault. He hyped Lee up too much and god knows what Andy thought of it himself but he was hearing things like 'Pavlik by the end of the year' and 'future MW champion' The lad is RAW TALENT, but a great talent at that, has a good chin and heart as Gaz says. His fitness needs to be worked apon, he needs to set out with a clearer gameplan and stick to it, not be dragged into the trenches

I hope he doesnt do a Bernard Dunne and turn his back on the sport, and i believe that he wont do such a thing. Hopefully he gets the support from those close to his, because he can still be world class IF managed and worked on NOW. Needs to learn from his mistakes.

I personally would love to see him working with a more refined trainer like Freddie Roach, somebody who knows the sport inside out and does good things for fighers.

Its not the end for Andy, i assure you that

[Big Ears]

Just straight channel 5 on terrestrial tv Healy. Although I dont know if you ROI lads get channel 5 over the sea.

Ya we don't get channel 5 since it isn't Free to Air .
It was only about 2 years ago that we could get Channel 4(although other companies other than Sky did offer it long before that) because that went Free to Air .

[Benjiabc]

when was this posted i sure as hell cant find it on channel 5?

[finzwinz]

I hope he doesnt do a Bernard Dunne and turn his back on the sport

Has Dunne retired????:admin

[Big Ears]

Has Dunne retired????:admin
He's fighting on the 12th of April in Mayo...........so no .

Just many think he doesn't have the drive for it anymore .

[GazOC]

when was this posted i sure as hell cant find it on channel 5?

The posts are timed...;)

[Healy]

Has Dunne retired????:admin
No, but even hearing his interviews will tell you he has got a huge dose of reality and his confidence seems shattered. One more lose will do it for him if it comes too soon im pretty sure.

[girv]

First time I have seen Andy Lee fight and I was impressed and believing the hype for the first couple of rounds.

Then the limited Vera came back into it catching Lee far too easily and getting a soft stoppage in the 7th.

Thing is if Lee had got the stoppage when he floored Vera the bandwagon would have picked up even more momentum and would have been even worse when it all came crashing down as it surely would in a fight or two's time.

Lee is now in a similar situation as Alex Arthur was right after the Gomez fight where he had to go back to the drawing board and fix his defence, which he has done very well. Arthur had a far worse KO to mentally recover from, as he was brutally KO'd while Lee will probably think that he could have fought on.

Arthur has always maintained that the Gomez fight was the making of him and it can be the same for Lee.

The "legendary" Emmanuel Steward and co should shut up about future world champion until their fighter has mastered defence and in-fighting. I felt quite sorry for Andy Lee as they put him on this big pedestal and he only had something like 15 pro fights.

I hope he comes back as Ireland doesnt have too many other hot prospects out there.

[Dunky McCafferty]

No, but even hearing his interviews will tell you he has got a huge dose of reality and his confidence seems shattered. One more lose will do it for him if it comes too soon im pretty sure.

There is nothing I hate more than a fighter who loses, & decides he cannot be bothered anymore. It stinks of huge ego to me, boxing is a tough sport & these fighters nowadays who want to quit cos they lost their O should look at past legends. None of them have a flashy 0, & it irks me that fighters nowadays think an 0 is all that matters.

Shea Neary was a prime example, thought he was amazing & took on probably the toughest fucker ever created, Micky Ward. Neary lost in a classic fight, then felt all sorry for himself, lost all his desire & retired after a lacklustre defeat to Eamonn Magee. Modern day fighters do my head in when they lose all hope just cos someone dared to beat them.

[Farmboxer]

Lee needs a few more fights before he steps it back up. Good fighter, has talent, good power, good chin, but should never have been caught that many times with the same punch. He should have used his right hook. I wonder about Steward sometimes.