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brown bomber
03-24-2008, 08:22 AM
Enjoy :happy

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dan-b
03-24-2008, 08:34 AM
Looks like some fight. Casamayor finding some redemption with that victory I feel. ******'s holding out for a nice vacant WBO shot for Khan.

hook
03-24-2008, 08:35 AM
Brilliant! Thank you Mr Thomas.

Claypole
03-24-2008, 08:43 AM
Thanks for that! I think that should serve as a reality check for Amir Khan and his army of adoring fans. Amir will have bad dreams just watching that clip.

KCD
03-24-2008, 08:45 AM
Rematch anyone??:happy

Big Ears
03-24-2008, 08:51 AM
Cheers Jeff , great fight that .

brown bomber
03-24-2008, 08:52 AM
Rematch anyone??:happy I think KAts deserves one... he looks a major player.... Can never recall Casamayor hurt that badly.

The Exile
03-24-2008, 08:53 AM
Cheers Jeff, top man :good

Quality little video with great Wolfmother audio!

Fight looks like it was a stormer, full props to both guys.

Katsidis is quickly getting into my favourite guys to watch list, he would brutalise Khan imo.

Despite the loss, his all action style will get him into even bigger fights in the future and he seems like a decent bloke aswell.

Max Molyneux
03-24-2008, 09:01 AM
Kat can bang but he's a limited slugger.

Even Earl wasn't having a hard time landing left and right hooks on him.

mike464
03-24-2008, 09:48 AM
I find it quite funny how Khan kept lots of options open by mentioning fighting Rees. That way if Casa and Katsidis looked too good and Rees won he could go for the easy option. As Rees lost and both Casamayor and Katsidis showed an ability to punch he'll probably fight Thaxton after all. I don't think he's going to win a world title, genuine or not, before Naz did.

maka
03-24-2008, 09:49 AM
cheers for the video jeff, what a fight.....you knew that fight was coming from the minute katsidis entered the ring, casamayor straight over and in his face :lol: fuckin love it.

what torrents site do you use for downloading boxing shows?


i hear this fight is available for download by torrent. certainly one for the archive. :good

maka
03-24-2008, 09:52 AM
I find it quite funny how Khan kept lots of options open by mentioning fighting Rees. That way if Casa and Katsidis looked too good and Rees won he could go for the easy option. As Rees lost and both Casamayor and Katsidis showed an ability to punch he'll probably fight Thaxton after all. I don't think he's going to win a world title, genuine or not, before Naz did.

bang on the button my friend, ****** would have been looking at the situ like that anyway for sure

maka
03-24-2008, 09:54 AM
Kat can bang but he's a limited slugger.

Even Earl wasn't having a hard time landing left and right hooks on him.

thats why i had high hopes of earl against khan...........if he had started a lot better we could have had a different fight.

rooq
03-24-2008, 10:18 AM
nice one...i'll definitely be recording this when sky show it on friday. looks to be a great fight

i like the way katsidis has great workrate and effective aggression - he can still do well in the lightweight division. a fight against juan diaz is another which has foty written all over it.

casamayor managed to recover very well from his battering in the 6th - i hope he goes on to take the title away from the least deserving champion out there, david diaz.

how would khan do against these two? hard to say because he hasn't fought anyone remotely world level. i'd be worried for him fighting either of these two, as both katsidis and casamayor can absorb a lot of punishment whilst continuing to dish it out.

if khan were to fight katsidis he'd have to box most of the 12 rounds on the backfoot and try not to get caught, and i'm not sure if he's good enough to do that.

rooq
03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
I don't think he's going to win a world title, genuine or not, before Naz did.

if you are counting non-genuine world titles, theres always lee mcallister

kurt2006
03-24-2008, 10:26 AM
Khan will never face livewire fighters. He will only fight for the real WBU title as all other titles are meaningless to him.

I can see Khan still fighting blown up straw-weights in a years time. The guy is going no where fast.

Dibbs
03-24-2008, 10:34 AM
Brutal fight, great to watch, agreed not opponents for Khan! At least the Rees option has gone, Amir was just waiting for that fight, going for the weakest champion, so he could announce 'see i am now world champion', so much for the best laid plans....:lol: :lol:

KCD
03-24-2008, 10:37 AM
nice one...i'll definitely be recording this when sky show it on friday. looks to be a great fight

i like the way katsidis has great workrate and effective aggression - he can still do well in the lightweight division. a fight against juan diaz is another which has foty written all over it.

casamayor managed to recover very well from his battering in the 6th - i hope he goes on to take the title away from the least deserving champion out there, david diaz.

how would khan do against these two? hard to say because he hasn't fought anyone remotely world level. i'd be worried for him fighting either of these two, as both katsidis and casamayor can absorb a lot of punishment whilst continuing to dish it out.

if khan were to fight katsidis he'd have to box most of the 12 rounds on the backfoot and try not to get caught, and i'm not sure if he's good enough to do that.


I think Katsidis would steam roll Khan and have an easy job doing it. Alot of people think Khan will take Katsidis out ala Earl, but this wont happen. Katsidis has a good chin and whilst he has been down he has never been really hurt (except in the 10th) and i also believe Khan isnt a big enough puncher to keep Katsidis off.

Casa ko 9 Khan
Katsidis ko 4 Khan

Eubank
03-24-2008, 11:05 AM
Joel Casamayor did not fight for a world title until he was 28 and fought for the vacant interim WBA Super Featherweight title against Antonio Hernandez, a bum who lost 22 fights in his career.

Michael Kassidis also fought for an interim title, vacant WBO lightweight against Graham Earl, a man Khan destroyed in a few seconds. Age 26.

Claypole
03-24-2008, 11:12 AM
Michael Kassidis also fought for an interim title, vacant WBO lightweight against Graham Earl, a man Khan destroyed in a few seconds. Age 26.How does Khan beating an utterly shot Earl mean anything? The Graham Earl before the Katsidis fight was a different one that stumbled into Amir Khan.

KCD
03-24-2008, 11:13 AM
Joel Casamayor did not fight for a world title until he was 28 and fought for the vacant interim WBA Super Featherweight title against Antonio Hernandez, a bum who lost 22 fights in his career.

Michael Kassidis also fought for an interim title, vacant WBO lightweight against Graham Earl, a man Khan destroyed in a few seconds. Age 26.


I think the fight with Katsidis basically ruined what was an always average fighter in Earl. A prime Earl was made for Khan so the version of him that Khan beat was never going to do much in the fight, once again great matchmaking by Fwank ******.

Eubank
03-24-2008, 11:20 AM
Earl was always crap. Kassidis took the easy route the same as Khan will.

stake501
03-24-2008, 11:37 AM
how does katsidis stopping earl whilst being put on queer street and getting ko' by a very old man in casamayor make him a worl class boxer.

he is great to watch, dont get me wrong...but he is just a gatti type fighter.

casamayor would have serious trouble from khan.....

btw casamayor in his prime would fuck up both katsidis and pre-prime khan on the same night.

brown bomber
03-24-2008, 11:39 AM
Earl was always crap. Kassidis took the easy route the same as Khan will.intelligent.:patsch

KCD
03-24-2008, 12:05 PM
Granted Katsidis will never become a great but he has an excellent attitude, as i have said before he was slated to fight Guzman and Diaz, they fell through so he fought Casamayor instead, thats the type of attitude we need in boxing.

Not slagging someone off and then refusing to fight them (Khan and Thaxton)

UK2004
03-24-2008, 12:54 PM
Can't help feeling Katsidis is similar to John Duddy excellent just below world level and good power but not got that talent for the top.

kurt2006
03-24-2008, 01:22 PM
Can't help feeling Katsidis is similar to John Duddy excellent just below world level and good power but not got that talent for the top.

Katsidis is much better than Duddy. To date I have not understood the hype about Duddy, the only reason for it I see is that he is white and Irish which goes down well in places like Boston.

UK2004
03-24-2008, 01:24 PM
I see them as similar Katsidis is not a great boxer in my opinion he relie son the equaliser both are easy to hit.

seconds out
03-24-2008, 06:01 PM
Thanks for that vid mate, that was a *******.

Alex_NA_Exile
03-24-2008, 06:40 PM
Thanks for the vid. Very entertaining.

Katsidis has exceptional strength but the guy is wide open from every single angle. His punches even come from crazy angles which make for good exciting fights but with an almost non-existant jab, he could fight Casa 10 times and would ko'ed 9 times. I wouldn't even call Casa a hugely powerful puncher. A Casa who is really on his way down and i hope that he isn't around in a couple of yrs to take on Khan!

Some ppl on here seem to think that this Kats is some world class stalwart and ppl who have seen at least a few of his last fights, without even needing to follow him closely, would know that he just ain't!

I think within a year, Khan would be ready for him. I think he could take him now but i think the right level of experience is necessary for Khan. Not that i think Khan is anywhere near a world level fighter yet but Kats (One of my fave fighters to watch, btw) would just be a name on Khan's resume.

Yeah, he would cause Khan huge problems with Kats' sheer power but Khan would have the advantage of his skills and size advantage and the fact that he'll be fighting someone who can't defend for shit! Sometimes i would wish Kats would calm it down a little cos i really hope to see him continue for ten more years cos he's is one of my favourite warriors!

And another thing is that I will not be making the mistake in thinking that Casa is somehow still in his prime because, i just don't think he is. This fight just gives a very distorted view. He beat Kats who is many ppls fave fighter but in no way did he beat a world class young fighter. He didnt even beat a fighter who made 'mistakes' as Kats claimed because that's just the way he fights. If he did just makes 'mistakes', he's been doing that shit for a long time and will be doing it until he retires.

stake501
03-24-2008, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the vid. Very entertaining.

Katsidis has exceptional strength but the guy is wide open from every single angle. His punches even come from crazy angles which make for good exciting fights but with an almost non-existant jab, he could fight Casa 10 times and would ko'ed 9 times. I wouldn't even call Casa a hugely powerful puncher. A Casa who is really on his way down and i hope that he isn't around in a couple of yrs to take on Khan!

Some ppl on here seem to think that this Kats is some world class stalwart and ppl who have seen at least a few of his last fights, without even needing to follow him closely, would know that he just ain't!

I think within a year, Khan would be ready for him. I think he could take him now but i think the right level of experience is necessary for Khan. Not that i think Khan is anywhere near a world level fighter yet but Kats (One of my fave fighters to watch, btw) would just be a name on Khan's resume.

Yeah, he would cause Khan huge problems with Kats' sheer power but Khan would have the advantage of his skills and size advantage and the fact that he'll be fighting someone who can't defend for shit! Sometimes i would wish Kats would calm it down a little cos i really hope to see him continue for ten more years cos he's is one of my favourite warriors!

And another thing is that I will not be making the mistake in thinking that Casa is somehow still in his prime because, i just don't think he is. This fight just gives a very distorted view. He beat Kats who is many ppls fave fighter but in no way did he beat a world class young fighter. He didnt even beat a fighter who made 'mistakes' as Kats claimed because that's just the way he fights. If he did just makes 'mistakes', he's been doing that shit for a long time and will be doing it until he retires.


my sentiments exactly :happy

MattMattMatt
03-24-2008, 07:38 PM
I think Katsidis deserves more praise for his performance (bar one moment of madness), I think the sentiment that he would lose 9 times out of 10 against Casamayor is probably way off - let's not forget that Katsidis was actually ahead on the cards when for some unknown reason he decided to go all out (even after the terrible first round). I think he definitely deserves a rematch, and if he learns some vital lessons then I would have him as the favourite to win.

HOF
03-24-2008, 07:43 PM
I'm not a Khan nuthugger or a ****** fan but I don't see where this thread is heading. Katsidis was caused big trouble by Earl who was then put away without any probs by Khan. Casamayor shouldn't even be in this fight - the decision he got off Santa Cruz preceding this was a disgrace. I don't think Khan would be the one wanting to avoid either of this pair

ravi B
03-24-2008, 07:58 PM
kats is a great guy its impossable to not like him

Akxtinguish
03-25-2008, 04:13 AM
The problem with a Khan-Katsidis fight would be that by the time it's even considered, Katsidis might have taken too many shots. When you fight like Katsidis does then you can't really maintain your prime for too long.

There would be no point in setting up Khan-Katsidis by the time he's way past it. If it's going to, let it happen now (Frank ****** would conveniently find his way around this).

Beatboxer
03-25-2008, 05:59 AM
I like Katsidis...but the Gatti comparisions are bang on Im afriad.

I honestly think Khan would beat him...though as Jeff says his handlers are unlikely to risk it.

robpalmer135
03-25-2008, 06:09 AM
I would expect ****** to want to wait it out for Campbell and Casamayor to fight each other, then drop a title. Or for Pac to beat Diaz and then move up and challenege for the vacant title.

elle
03-25-2008, 07:15 AM
nice one...i'll definitely be recording this when sky show it on friday. looks to be a great fight


Contender for fight of the year so thats what I'm going to do - record it when they show a delayed airing this Friday 9.30pm Sky Sports 1.

These guys would be a HUGE step up for Khan and Kristjansen is hardly the right preparation for either.

elle
03-25-2008, 07:36 AM
if you are counting non-genuine world titles, theres always lee mcallister

Maybe thats an explanation for McAllister withdrawing from his upcoming fight with Gomez - if he were to lose his title he would also lose the chance of a lucrative fight with Khan.

Now that Rees has lost and the lightweight division in general has been shaken up McAllister is the easiest and quickest route to a 'world title' (I use that term loosely) for Khan.

robpalmer135
03-25-2008, 07:50 AM
i think lightweight is on of the strongest divisons. Casamayor, Katsidis, Campbell, Diaz and the contedners like Khan are good too.

doggyland
03-25-2008, 07:56 AM
Swinging left hooks - gotta love that punch :!: :thumbsup