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ssabripo
03-25-2008, 03:48 PM
:?

He's gotten a chance to face mayweather, Cotto, and now Mosley:huh

don't get me wrong, I like watching him fight, but I don't understand how the hell he continues to get beat, convincingly, and still get these fights!

venomus_p4p
03-25-2008, 03:49 PM
He has fans thats how.

BigBone
03-25-2008, 03:50 PM
There's no title at stake. On TV, it's all about money and the popular and exciting fighters are bringing the money. Judah is not that popular, but he's that exciting...

janeschicken
03-25-2008, 03:51 PM
he's the perfect stepping stone .. looks good on a resume, but weak willed and a questionable chin.

superchile
03-25-2008, 03:51 PM
tottally agreed whit you dude its wierd he keeps getting big figths after being ko brutally and beten up by maywheter i guess its like they say you got know how to loose

Dunks
03-25-2008, 03:52 PM
:?

He's gotten a chance to face mayweather, Cotto, and now Mosley:huh

don't get me wrong, I like watching him fight, but I don't understand how the hell he continues to get beat, convincingly, and still get these fights!

u answered your own question....His name is ZAB JUDAH

big names get big fights:hey

and ur avatar is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:good :lol:

K0NPHL1C7
03-25-2008, 03:52 PM
Because there's always that chance that he'll actually show up, and embarrass the fuck out of anyone he faces.

pit
03-25-2008, 04:00 PM
:?

He's gotten a chance to face mayweather, Cotto, and now Mosley:huh

don't get me wrong, I like watching him fight, but I don't understand how the hell he continues to get beat, convincingly, and still get these fights!


He's being use as a stepping stone for the elite fighter , basically he's no-longer seen as threat to any of the top 5 welters ..

Zab has mental and Physical flaws that no one thinks he can over come. IF he loses his fight against Shane, look for Zab to be gate keeper for up and comers and anyone trying to brake into the top 10.

CJLightweight
03-25-2008, 04:13 PM
zab has was the guy back then, best prospect etc., so why not? Win or lose he would always get into big fights. He's like gatti for example, win or lose still a big name, big payday

Mohak
03-25-2008, 04:21 PM
He's an exciting fighter. Either he KO's someone or gets KO'ed.

Power + bad chin = drama

thewoo
03-25-2008, 04:29 PM
Really this is what it should be about. he gives the fans what they want. People act like a loss is the end of a fighters career. it shouldn't matter if you are undefeated as long as you always put on a good show.

pipe wrenched
03-25-2008, 04:32 PM
Ring still has him ranked #6 at WW. He's a known name that has proven he can be exciting as hell (well for atleast 6 rounds usually). And to be fair, after his loss to Cotto (in which in most people opinion, Zab's stock actually went up), he did his "time" and has gotten a couple wins fighting back on ESPN and even untelevised to work his way to stay in contention.

Also as was pointed out, this is not a Title fight, just a great match up of two ROCKIN' Welter Weights that this boxing fan is awfully grateful it has been made.

Grievesy
03-25-2008, 04:34 PM
Really this is what it should be about. he gives the fans what they want. People act like a loss is the end of a fighters career. it shouldn't matter if you are undefeated as long as you always put on a good show.
True. I think that having that 0 on the record is overrated and is really just what casual fans like to see.

klion22
03-25-2008, 04:45 PM
Wouldn't you guys also say that his level of unpredictability as another factor? Sort of like the Tyson factor? I mean from his Tszyu KD to him blowing PBF to getting dominated by a much less talented Baldomir to even showing up and beating a Cory Spinks, he's unpredictable. You don't know what you will get with him.

BeReal
03-25-2008, 04:46 PM
explain to me how Judah is still getting high prized fights?


Simple: Because he will take them. He dosen't duck and dodge. You offer the fight, he takes it.

pit
03-25-2008, 04:56 PM
explain to me how Judah is still getting high prized fights?


Simple: Because he will take them. He dosen't duck and dodge. You offer the fight, he takes it.

He has no choice, his career is in shambles right now he can't afford not take any of these fights.

charlievint
03-25-2008, 05:02 PM
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He's gotten a chance to face mayweather, Cotto, and now Mosley:huh

don't get me wrong, I like watching him fight, but I don't understand how the hell he continues to get beat, convincingly, and still get these fights!

Only bc he is a fighter who can compete against the best even though he looses at the highest level. He still offers excitment, competitiveness and flash. He's Dangerous but given his track record he seems to be somewhat of a "GATEKEEPER" to the upper echlons of the peaks of boxing. He's got a good name, Decent record and he's a world class fighter.....bottom line...he's marketable.

charlievint
03-25-2008, 05:03 PM
He a sort of medium risk high reward fighter.

Zab is still immensely talented and it is not as if he will be beaten easily, there is always the chance he could be very focused, and he has the power to hurt anyone and the speed and reflexes to cause them problems

Beating is a demonstrator that you have A level competitive skills. He could still beat most B level guys, but against the cream of the crop he breaks down and will lose

Definitley NOT minimum Risk! He is very dangerous but if you can get past the early storm your chances to win multiplies exponentially. If you go in with Zab thinking he's "minimum risk" is when he's most dangerous.

rreed23
03-25-2008, 05:06 PM
explain to me how Judah is still getting high prized fights?


Simple: Because he will take them. He dosen't duck and dodge. You offer the fight, he takes it.

Well said! Undefeated records are for pussies

Dorfmeister
03-25-2008, 05:10 PM
I feel Zab should fight in Super Main Events as often as he can because he brings that extra element to the confrontations, some kind of flavour or spice that makes these very attractive prizefights and technical boxing contests. It has a lot to do with his craftiness and his ability but also with his temper and persona - Tszyu vs Judah, Spinks vs Judah, Mayweather vs Judah and Cotto vs Judah were all very entertaining promotions, build-ups and fights so even if he loses to Mosley, why wouldn't he box on against the best up-comers? Super Zab is a wacko but he's also very cool. Ferocious Fernando was put against Tito, Hoya, Mosley and Mayo for some reason.

2ironmt
03-25-2008, 05:10 PM
He has no choice, his career is in shambles right now he can't afford not take any of these fights. don't know, with his name, he could probably beat a bunch of lesser fighters and than get a title shot (sort of like shannon briggs altho its a bit different at the lower weights).

aceshigh
03-25-2008, 05:30 PM
Hes an excellent dancer.

thewoo
03-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Judah vs Mosley will probably be about 5 times better than DLH vs Mayweather 2 but get about 1/10 of the buys.

drama
03-25-2008, 06:40 PM
Boxing fans are to harsh on fighters who lose if this was mma Zab would be considered elite and I consider him an elite boxer! Besides He's only lost one more big fight than mosley.

Faetter_BR
03-25-2008, 06:43 PM
lots of people still want to see him beaten :)

Thread Stealer
03-25-2008, 08:12 PM
He's an exciting fighter. Either he KO's someone or gets KO'ed.

Power + bad chin = drama

In his last half dozen fights, ONE has ended in a KO.

Before that, it was 4 in the last 8.

Not exactly a Julian Jackson/Tommy Morrison/Mike Tyson-type "it usually ends in a KO" type of fighter.

Lance_Uppercut
03-25-2008, 08:14 PM
He's an attractive 'beatable' opponent who adds to the "Beat former World Champ" on their resume. I'll never expect him to win the big fight, but Judah's still got some entertainment value.

yalipito
03-25-2008, 08:15 PM
I don't get it, the man IS WILLING to fight anyone without hesitating but gets criticized. Then you have those who talk but don't fight anyone and they also get criticized. What do you guys want? Also all this chin crap should stop
by now, he was tko'd twice, rattled a couple of times and thats it, this is boxing

walk with me
03-25-2008, 09:06 PM
hes that talented

psychopath
03-25-2008, 09:10 PM
Like it or not mate . . . Zab is a former two divisional champ, he is an exciting fighter and still a very dangerous fighter despite his loses . . . and most importantly he has name and a large fan base.

Dynamite Kid
03-25-2008, 10:15 PM
:?

He's gotten a chance to face mayweather, Cotto, and now Mosley:huh

don't get me wrong, I like watching him fight, but I don't understand how the hell he continues to get beat, convincingly, and still get these fights!

It's his opponents that choose to fight him. He simply accepts the offers

fitzgeraldz
03-25-2008, 10:20 PM
He's proven and is a tough opponent for anyone --

He's a couple years from being undisputed champion ...

ripcity
03-25-2008, 10:23 PM
He's a talented boxer who is beatable and he is well known within the sport.

Rico Spadafora
03-25-2008, 10:30 PM
Judah has a Glass Jaw and no heart. He will get knocked out.

DanePugilist
03-25-2008, 10:31 PM
I don't get it either. He should be a gatekeeper, not some of the big names keep on bashing.

BewareofDawg
03-25-2008, 10:46 PM
Same reason you're still making threads about him. He is still a big name. He fights his heart out, he is dangerous to anyone in the division and is very popular.

vargasfan1985
03-25-2008, 10:56 PM
his name

Farmboxer
03-26-2008, 02:01 AM
Judah was hyped by TV for years. Still has a big name.