~ Lucian BUTE v. Mads LARSEN ~ THOUGHTS and PREDICTIONS ~

[Decebal]

According to Sauerland, Bute will fight Larsen on the 17th of May, in Copenhagen.

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Larsen needs to get past Ross Thompson on the 29th of March in a tune-up fight - will not be a problem.

(Larsen was saying he hoped it would lead to a title fight later in the year...)

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A couple of weeks ago, Bute said his next fight would be on the 17th or 18th of May, in Denmark...all this points to this fight being pretty much a done deal.


So what are your thoughts? Can Larsen cause an upset?

[d00k]

Cool. No, Bute will win, he is technically much better than Larsen and Larsen has a poor workrate.

[Caliboxing]

Why should I even care about this fight?

[Boom_Boom]

Why should I even care about this fight?

exactly

why is Bute even fighting him, especially when he just got called out by Miranda

[Arriba]

What happened with Andrade Dec?

[Decebal]

Andrade will remain Bute's mandatory for September/October. The winner of Bute v. Larsen will fight Andrade.

[CATH]

Well, it would be a great evening in Copenhagen, seeing Bute vs. Larsen. I would not write off Larsen, but Bute would still be huge favorite.

[Arriba]

Andrade will remain Bute's mandatory for September/October. The winner of Bute v. Larsen will fight Andrade.


Gotcha...so I gotta wait for Andrade-Bute?

No fun.

[pecks]

Why is he fighting him in Copenhagen?

Very bad risk/reward fight here for Bute, even more so considering that the fight is in Copenhagen. The judges can be pretty shifty over there, so he'll be up against it.

I tipped Bute via UD though. He should be able to win by a few rounds.

[Decebal]

"Why should I care about this fight given that Miranda just called Bute out?"

:conf

I would much have preferred Bute v. Miranda too, of course!:-(

But Larsen is good enough. sean still thinks he's pretty good.

[CATH]

According to Sauerland, Bute will fight Larsen on the 17th of May, in Copenhagen. Larsen needs to get past Ross Thompson on the 29th of March in a tune-up fight - will not be a problem.

So what are your thoughts? Can Larsen cause an upset?

Where did he say this, Decebal?

[DanePugilist]

I have no idea how well Larsen performs now - I haven't cared to watch him after he acted like a kid, when Kessler got his chance at Siaca due to his injury.

So I have voted Bute by decision. 3 years is a long layoff, not even counting the numerous times he have been injured when he was going somewhere.

Hadn't he been injured and had been 3 years younger this would be one hell of a fight. Could still be.

[Decebal]

Why is he fighting him in Copenhagen?.

:conf

But Larouche (Bute's trainer and Interbox manager) was saying he wanted to give Bute a fight abroad, to prepare him for for a fight where the crowd are against him, in an arena he doesn't know, with a foreign ref and judges...

[Decebal]

Where did he say this, Decebal?

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:good

[DanePugilist]

Can't even begin to think what will happen if Larsen takes this - guess that would mean that finally Larsen and Kessler will dish it out...

[Decebal]

I haven't cared to watch him after he acted like a kid, when Kessler got his chance at Siaca due to his injury.

Please tell me more; don't know anything about this...:think

[Decebal]

Can't even begin to think what will happen if Larsen takes this - guess that would mean that finally Larsen and Kessler will dish it out...

Huh?:huh

[DanePugilist]

:conf

But Larouche (Bute's trainer and Interbox manager) was saying he wanted to give Bute a fight abroad, to prepare him for for a fight where the crowd are against him, in an arena he doesn't know, with a foreign ref and judges...Why isn't it in Germany? Sounds weird - not even sure that Larsen has a fanbase in Denmark anymore.

[Caliboxing]

"Why should I care about this fight given that Miranda just called Bute out?"

:conf

I would much have preferred Bute v. Miranda too, of course!:-(

But Larsen is good enough. sean still thinks he's pretty good.



Who is Larsen and what has he done to earn a title shot? He is not even top 10, it doesn't look good for Bute.

[DanePugilist]

Huh?:huhIt has been discussed many times before - both when Larsen was considered the best, and when Kessler gained the belt from Siaca.

It has never amounted to anything because:

1) Palle didn't want to lessen either fighters chance at a WC belt.
2) When Kessler gained the belt, alot of bad blood happened in the stable, and Larsen left for Sauerland.

[CATH]

Larsen was supposed to face Siaca for the WBA strap,but got injured...again! He has a rep for getting injured before big fights, at least in DK. He was furious with Team Palle when Kessler took the Siaca fight, and later split with them. The rest....is history!

[DanePugilist]

Who is Larsen and what has he done to earn a title shot? He is not even top 10, it doesn't look good for Bute.Bute doesn't know he is a belt holder. He still thinks he is a prospect:lol::lol: .

Nah both Miranda and Larsen would be very good tests for him.

[Fightfan of Mtl]

Not another washed-up hasbeen instead of a live opponent. Away from Montreal ( it might be a good thing to fight without local support) Bute will find what it is to defend his belt on hostile ground, but he will not get much opposition in this one, even if Larsen is a southpaw.
Plus, it's not gonna set the table in the U.S.A. where the boxing money is...:patsch

Maybe we are rushing things for him, but damn, if becomming a title holder too soon means you have to avoid all dangers, I guess we will have to practice our patience for another 6 to 12 months before we get something meaningfull to show for, no disrespect for Andrade.


Miranda would have done it for me, but Interbox feels he's not worthy.

[CATH]

Bute doesn't know he is a belt holder. He still thinks he is a prospect:lol::lol: .

Nah both Miranda and Larsen would be very good tests for him.

Mads Larsen should definately not be written of if this fight happens - he's experienced and still capable.

Does he still have a fan base in DK?

I would be there....:happy :happy

[Decebal]

Who is Larsen and what has he done to earn a title shot? He is not even top 10, it doesn't look good for Bute.

I guess Larsen is another Joppy type fighter, but better, at this stage. He is an experienced world class fighter, who would have been a World Champion had he not been robbed against Ottke.

But yeah...nothing to write home about...although many people think he is/was underrated because he never got the big fights to prove how good he really is/was...

:conf

I know little about him...sean and DanePugilist can tell us more!:good

[DanePugilist]

Please tell me more; don't know anything about this...:thinkLarsen got injury just prior to his scheduled fight with Siaca. Larsen felt that Palle should have postponed the fight with Siaca. However, Larsen have a long list of "injuries" prior to top fights, so I guess that Palle didn't want this chance to slip away so he gave the fight to Kessler in nick of time.

Since Kessler won convincingly, maybe Larsen knew that he wouldn't get a second chance or whatever... He whined alot and told media that Palle had turned his back on him.

Palle in turn - didn't respond very well to this - and felt no kind of empathy for Larsen. After a while Larsen was released of his contract, and went into "hiding" for years - till he suddenly turned up at Sauerland to everyones surprise.

[Decebal]

Larsen was supposed to face Siaca for the WBA strap,but got injured...again! He has a rep for getting injured before big fights, at least in DK. He was furious with Team Palle when Kessler took the Siaca fight, and later split with them. The rest....is history!

:good

[Decebal]

Not another washed-up hasbeen instead of a live opponent. Away from Montreal ( it might be a good thing to fight without local support) Bute will find what it is to defend his belt on hostile ground, but he will not get much opposition in this one, even if Larsen is a southpaw.
Plus, it's not gonna set the table in the U.S.A. where the boxing money is...:patsch

Maybe we are rushing things for him, but damn, if becomming a title holder too soon means you have to avoid all dangers, I guess we will have to practice our patience for another 6 to 12 months before we get something meaningfull to show for, no disrespect for Andrade.


Miranda would have done it for me, but Interbox feels he's not worthy.

Alas! Yes! Another washed up has been for Bute...certainly not a prime, live fighter...:verysad :-( :verysad :-( :verysad

I agree...it's not what we wanted, particularly with the Miranda offer on the table...

...I am not sure why they are not taking Miranda!:huh

[Astola]

Please tell me more; don't know anything about this...:think

Originally Larsen was to fight Siaca for the WBA title. But Larsen got injured and Kessler stepped in.

Larsen couldnt forgive Palle for making this deal and wanted to leave. But he had some insane options in his contract which didnt allow him to leave unless having a 2 years break.

When Larsen finished his break from fighting he joined Sauerland and Larsen has ever since the break with Palle wanted to KTFO Kessler.



Decebal - Larsen was once a pretty good talent and I believe that Sean is right in his judgement of him. He could be a very, very dangerous nobody for Bute....

[DanePugilist]

Mads Larsen should definately not be written of if this fight happens - he's experienced and still capable.

Does he still have a fan base in DK?

I would be there....:happy :happyHe was very skilled, and was my favorite danish fighter for many years, and probably still is pretty skilled - haven't seen him since his comeback though.

Think most people thought he acted poorly - instead of congratulating Kessler - he created bad blood. At least danish media mostly put him in a bad light, and thus did most of the danish boxing populace.

However, before Kessler not many really fancied boxing in Denmark, so I don't think he would have alot of fans there. Then again, he is danish, and most people don't know shit, they just hear that a dane gets a title fight and get excited - much like they did with Kessler:lol::lol::lol:

[Maden]

Wauw I can actually see Larsen winning this one! This would be a 60-40 match-up in favor of Bute! But Larsen is a dangerous challenger especially on home soil! He has left wife and child back in Denmark to train and fight in Germany seeking a chance to redeem himself and becoming champion! With this opportunity I would expect nothing less than a Larsen who would be motivated like never before, and that is dangerman for every fighter out there!

[DanePugilist]

Originally Larsen was to fight Siaca for the WBA title. But Larsen got injured and Kessler stepped in.

Larsen couldnt forgive Palle for making this deal and wanted to leave. But he had some insane options in his contract which didnt allow him to leave unless having a 2 years break.

When Larsen finished his break from fighting he joined Sauerland and Larsen has ever since the break with Palle wanted to KTFO Kessler.



Decebal - Larsen was once a pretty good talent and I believe that Sean is right in his judgement of him. He could be a very, very dangerous nobody for Bute....Didn't know about the contract thing.

[Fat Tony]

Why isn't it in Germany? Sounds weird - not even sure that Larsen has a fanbase in Denmark anymore.

Well, you're not sure if he has a fanbase in Denmark anymore.
I am sure that he has NO fanbase in Germany.
His recent fight were not televised here.
I guess Bute is much too expensive to appear on the undercard of Sebastian Sylvester or Marko Huck.

[Astola]

Didn't know about the contract thing.

Glad youre back dude!
:good

[DanePugilist]

Wauw I can actually see Larsen winning this one! This would be a 60-40 match-up in favor of Bute! But Larsen is a dangerous challenger especially on home soil! He has left wife and child back in Denmark to train and fight in Germany seeking a chance to redeem himself and becoming champion! With this opportunity I would expect nothing less than a Larsen who would be motivated like never before, and that is dangerman for every fighter out there!Yeah - motivation have never been his strong point in the past - hatred is such a motivator though:lol:

[DanePugilist]

Glad youre back dude!
:goodThank you, good to be back.:lol:

[Decebal]

Decebal - Larsen was once a pretty good talent and I believe that Sean is right in his judgement of him. He could be a very, very dangerous nobody for Bute....

Let's hope he performs well on the night!:good

[Decebal]

Wauw I can actually see Larsen winning this one! This would be a 60-40 match-up in favor of Bute! But Larsen is a dangerous challenger especially on home soil! He has left wife and child back in Denmark to train and fight in Germany seeking a chance to redeem himself and becoming champion! With this opportunity I would expect nothing less than a Larsen who would be motivated like never before, and that is dangerman for every fighter out there!

If Larsen is so dangerous and motivated, why are Interbox not making the Miranda fight instead?:huh

[DanePugilist]

Well, you're not sure if he has a fanbase in Denmark anymore.
I am sure that he has NO fanbase in Germany.
His recent fight were not televised here.
I guess Bute is much too expensive to appear on the undercard of Sebastian Sylvester or Marko Huck.Haha - okay - thought all Sauerlands boxers were popular - what little do I know:lol:

[Fightfan of Mtl]

Originally Larsen was to fight Siaca for the WBA title. But Larsen got injured and Kessler stepped in.

Larsen couldnt forgive Palle for making this deal and wanted to leave. But he had some insane options in his contract which didnt allow him to leave unless having a 2 years break.

When Larsen finished his break from fighting he joined Sauerland and Larsen has ever since the break with Palle wanted to KTFO Kessler.



Decebal - Larsen was once a pretty good talent and I believe that Sean is right in his judgement of him. He could be a very, very dangerous nobody for Bute....



Please give me a break, the guy is 36 and didn't boxed anyone important since Ottke and Haussler 5 years ago, plus he's always injured. We are talking about a guy Boxrec ranks 30th, and you say he might be danger!!!!!
:yep :yep :yep :hat

[PH|LLA]

comon now Miranda would've been a good one.

[Astola]

Please give me a break, the guy is 36 and didn't boxed anyone important since Ottke and Haussler 3 yeas ago, plus he's always injured. We are talking about a guy Boxrec ranks 30th, and you say he might be danger!!!!!:yep :yep :yep :hat

Well yeah - youre absolutely right. It could be that Bute knocks the F out of Larsen but he has some anger and huge motivation - everything to gain from this fight. What excactly has Bute to gain from this fight??

If I where Interbox I would make a deal with Miranda. Larsen is unknown, once a very good talent and this is his last chance to do anything.

[CATH]

He was very skilled, and was my favorite danish fighter for many years, and probably still is pretty skilled - haven't seen him since his comeback though.

Think most people thought he acted poorly - instead of congratulating Kessler - he created bad blood. At least danish media mostly put him in a bad light, and thus did most of the danish boxing populace.

However, before Kessler not many really fancied boxing in Denmark, so I don't think he would have alot of fans there. Then again, he is danish, and most people don't know shit, they just hear that a dane gets a title fight and get excited - much like they did with Kessler:lol::lol::lol:

He acted exactly as you would expect a Golden Boy to react - which did not fall into any danes temper.

Still, he would not be a favorite in this one - but a stern test for Bute indeed, and I would not put too much cash on the Romanian.

Why would I go to see Larsen then? Well, certainly to root for our fellow compatriot, but also to support a Sauerland card in DK. Palle needs quality competition!

[Maden]

If Larsen is so dangerous and motivated, why are Interbox not making the Miranda fight instead?:huh

Because he is underrated by most people because of his layoff! Fighting Larsen in Denmark is just plain foolish! Actually when it comes down to it I expect Interbox to change the venue for this fight when they realise that Larsen is no push-over!

[CATH]

Please give me a break, the guy is 36 and didn't boxed anyone important since Ottke and Haussler 5 years ago, plus he's always injured. We are talking about a guy Boxrec ranks 30th, and you say he might be danger!!!!!
:yep :yep :yep :hat

Yes he would!

[DanePugilist]

He acted exactly as you would expect a Golden Boy to react - which did not fall into any danes temper.

Still, he would not be a favorite in this one - but a stern test for Bute indeed, and I would not put too much cash on the Romanian.

Why would I go to see Larsen then? Well, certainly to root for our fellow compatriot, but also to support a Sauerland card in DK. Palle needs quality competition!
1) :lol::lol::lol: - Yes, you are very right about that - danes hates arrogant people in general.
2) Nor would I - to be truthful - but mostly because I haven't seen him - and those who have, say he isn't shot - like I would have expected him to be.
3) I agree - maybe so will I, if I can overlook my disappointment in him - and move on.

[DanePugilist]

I hope he doesn't pull a Rudy Markussen - that would be very bad.

Bute is a great fighter - and regardless whom he meets it will be great to see him again.

[Decebal]

Larsen better not pull out of THIS fight, injury or no injury - or I might just have to put my ninja suit on and make a trip across the North Sea...:fire

[DanePugilist]

Larsen better not pull out of THIS fight, injury or no injury - or I might just have to put my ninja suit on and make a trip across the North Sea...:firePulling a Rudy Markussen is giving up in the fight even when being the better fighter - but simply due to not wanting to fight on the night - worst shit I have ever seen in my life of sports.

If you weren't commenting on the "pulling a Rudy...", then there is a 50/50 chance that Golden Boy suddenly gets an "injury" and sits home smoking weed all day.

Prepare thine Ninja suit, mon amis.

[Decebal]

Pulling a Rudy Markussen is giving up in the fight even when being the better fighter - but simply due to not wanting to fight on the night - worst shit I have ever seen in my life of sports.

If you weren't commenting on the "pulling a Rudy...", then there is a 50/50 chance that Golden Boy suddenly gets an "injury" and sits home smoking weed all day.

Prepare thine Ninja suit, mon amis.

That would be a big blow for Bute's career. Big blow...:fire :twisted: :fire :twisted: :fire

[Fightfan of Mtl]

I hope he doesn't pull a Rudy Markussen - that would be very bad.

Bute is a great fighter - and regardless whom he meets it will be great to see him again.


Until Larsen is in the ring waiting for Bute, who knows what will happend, It looks to me this deal has a lot variables against Bute for an optionnal defense. Away from his fans, with the possibility of complete waste of precious time and energy, not even preparing for big paydays in the States. I don't know about this one.....

[Decebal]

Until Larsen is in the ring waiting for Bute, who knows what will happend, It looks to me this deal has a lot variables against Bute for an optionnal defense. Away from his fans, with the possibility of complete waste of precious time and energy, not even preparing for big paydays in the States. I don't know about this one.....

I agree...he could be fighting Miranda at home in Montreal instead...Miranda would definitely not pull out!:rasta

[laffie]

I agree...he could be fighting Miranda at home in Montreal instead...Miranda would definitely not pull out!:rasta

Larouche is very cautious with bute, but still insist he learns something from each of his bouts. This time, Interbox had two choices: an American fighter or a fight outside Montreal. Since Andrade won his fight against Stieglitz, Interbox are sure of a bout against an American name. So for the optional defense they chose Larsen, outside Canada. It's not exciting as a fight against Miranda, but it's wise. When Bute will fight one day a big name outside Canada, he will be well prepared.

[DanePugilist]

Until Larsen is in the ring waiting for Bute, who knows what will happend, It looks to me this deal has a lot variables against Bute for an optionnal defense. Away from his fans, with the possibility of complete waste of precious time and energy, not even preparing for big paydays in the States. I don't know about this one.....Yes, in terms of recognition reward there is not much to pick up here - but... Larsen is a good fighter, and therefore a good test nonetheless - it's no walk in the park. It's a big risk, but he could be rewarded with added experience - and isn't it what boxing should be all about?.

[DanePugilist]

Larouche is very cautious with bute, but still insist he learns something from each of his bouts. This time, Interbox had two choices: an American fighter or a fight outside Montreal. Since Andrade won his fight against Stieglitz, Interbox are sure of a bout against an American name. So for the optional defense they chose Larsen, outside Canada. It's not exciting as a fight against Miranda, but it's wise. When Bute will fight one day a big name outside Canada, he will be well prepared.oh, you said it first.

[Decebal]

Larouche is very cautious with bute, but still insist he learns something from each of his bouts. This time, Interbox had two choices: an American fighter or a fight outside Montreal. Since Andrade won his fight against Stieglitz, Interbox are sure of a bout against an American name. So for the optional defense they chose Larsen, outside Canada. It's not exciting as a fight against Miranda, but it's wise. When Bute will fight one day a big name outside Canada, he will be well prepared.

I have said so before and I'm saying it again...I'll write Larouche and Bute a blank cheque for 2008...but in 2009, ready or not...here I'll come, asking for the big fights...and when I say big, I don't mean Miranda...I mean Taylor, I mean Kessler, I mean Dawson...and I won't want to hear: Sorry, fans, we cannot get these people to fight us because they say we've only beaten Bika - a fringe contender, Berrio, the guy who was starched by a guy who is really at best just a Top 15 guy - Stieglitz, a very faded/shot Joppy, a Larsen who's back from the dead, and a rough Andrade, in a close tough fight to the death...:deal :deal :deal

[DanePugilist]

I have said so before and I'm saying it again...I'll write Larouche and Bute a blank cheque for 2008...but in 2009, ready or not...here I'll come, asking for the big fights...and when I say big, I don't mean Miranda...I mean Taylor, I mean Kessler, I mean Dawson...and I won't want to hear: Sorry, fans, we cannot get these people to fight us because they say we've only beaten Bika - a fringe contender, Berrio, the guy who was starched by a guy who is really at best just a Top 15 guy - Stieglitz, a very faded/shot Joppy, a Larsen who's back from the dead, and a rough Andrade, in a close tough fight to the death...:deal :deal :dealBeating Andrade is pretty good, but I agree with what you say. As champ, the education should nearly stop. One should only look upwards... Even if I think you are a bit hard on Bute's lvl of opposition, he should keep evolving by meeting really good fighters or parish in flames.

[Decebal]

Beating Andrade is pretty good, but I agree with what you say. As champ, the education should nearly stop. One should only look upwards... Even if I think you are a bit hard on Bute's lvl of opposition, he should keep evolving by meeting really good fighters or parish in flames.

I'm not harsh. Bute is a Top 4 guy for sure. But that's it...You can argue he's Top 3, after Calzaghe and Kessler but some people will disagree and say: No...Mundine is better. Next year I want Bute to prove himself, do or die, like Kessler did! I am a big Kessler fan, by the way; this is an article I wrote a while ago:

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[DanePugilist]

I'm not harsh. Bute is a Top 4 guy for sure. But that's it...You can argue he's Top 3, after Calzaghe and Kessler but some people will disagree and say: No...Mundine is better. Next year I want Bute to prove himself, do or die, like Kessler did! I am a big Kessler fan, by the way; this is an article I wrote a while ago:

[Only registered and activated users can see links] article - sounds like a debate I had on World of Warcraft forum concerning Blizzards businesslike way of thinking.

As you yourself said, more time, gives more preparation. Look at Kessler, he did the most work in the division, only to hand the spoils of war to Calzaghe...

[Maniman]

Dont forget that Kessler had way more fight then Bute before he start fighting good opposition. I think Bute still got a lot of thing to learn and still can get lot better.

[Maxime]

Why is he fighting him in Copenhagen?

Very bad risk/reward fight here for Bute, even more so considering that the fight is in Copenhagen. The judges can be pretty shifty over there, so he'll be up against it.

I tipped Bute via UD though. He should be able to win by a few rounds.

They have been negociating for weeks if not months for this fight. So Im guessing bute's team is trying to get a big ring with neutral judges and ref, etc...

[pecks]

They have been negociating for weeks if not months for this fight. So Im guessing bute's team is trying to get a big ring with neutral judges and ref, etc...I've got a bad feeling about this one. It just doesn't seem like a wise option here for Bute.

Will be interesting to see though.

[Faetter_BR]

Larsen isn't half bad - he is levels above anything Bute has faced so far - so it might become interesting.

As for Bute-Miranda versus Bute-Larsen

Larsen would beat Miranda easy - Miranda is pictureferfect for a slick southpaw counterpuncher like Larsen.

I find it hard to believe that it would be in Copenhagen thou - makes no sense and little money - unless of course Kessler is put on the card...

[Dorfmeister]

Great fight for Bute, Decebal. The other Golden Boy, Mads Larsen lost to Ottke by very narrow margin ( 115-113 twice, 115-115) and despite having another loss ( stoppage on cuts to Trevor Ambrose in 96), he came back to the picture with a clear win over previously undefeated Danilo Haussler ( 120-108, 116-112 twice) and won 4 eight round decisions since... I saw the fight against Vasily Andryianov ( 80-72 scores) and Larsen seems strong but faded, too heavy on his feet and too stationary with his head and body, he doesn't use the 77'' southpaw jab that often... Ross Thompson was the guy Vargas spit on after knocking him down - incredible he's still around. I believe Larsen has very bad chances to pull the upset against another lefty Bute like he did against 5'10'' tall, orthodox Haussler.

[BennitheHill]

I guess Larsen is another Joppy type fighter, but better, at this stage. He is an experienced world class fighter, who would have been a World Champion had he not been robbed against Ottke.


Robbed??
I honestly thought he lost that fight.. Instead of firing away he was dancing with Ottke. Horrible fight to watch.

[Decebal]

Great fight for Bute, Decebal. The other Golden Boy, Mads Larsen lost to Ottke by very narrow margin ( 115-113 twice, 115-115) and despite having another loss ( stoppage on cuts to Trevor Ambrose in 96), he came back to the picture with a clear win over previously undefeated Danilo Haussler ( 120-108, 116-112 twice) and won 4 eight round decisions since... I saw the fight against Vasily Andryianov ( 80-72 scores) and Larsen seems strong but faded, too heavy on his feet and too stationary with his head and body, he doesn't use the 77'' southpaw jab that often... Ross Thompson was the guy Vargas spit on after knocking him down - incredible he's still around. I believe Larsen has very bad chances to pull the upset against another lefty Bute like he did against 5'10'' tall, orthodox Haussler.

Beside the Danish posters, who might be biased, sean too said that Larsen was good. He also seems to have performed quite well in his comeback fights. A week or so ago, I would have been very happy with Larsen, given the alternatives, as I saw them. But now that Miranda made an offer (I'm not sure whether it's serious, or whether negotiations are even taking place, or whether the deal against Larsen's already been made or not, or whether Miranda was just keeping his name in the news...) I think fighting Miranda in Montreal, on Showtime, might be better for Bute's career than fighting an underrated last-chance saloon Larsen in Copenhagen...with no US TV exposure...

I looked at the RDS site (Canadian sports site) and many people would even go as far as to say that Haussler or Brinkley might be Bute's next opponent, and, what is worse, they seem fine with that...!!! I just don't want Bute to end up missing all sorts of opportunities and become a home fighter only fighting a decent fight a year, against the mandatory challenger...

...we'll see, Dorfmeister, we'll see.:good

[DanePugilist]

Robbed??
I honestly thought he lost that fight.. Instead of firing away he was dancing with Ottke. Horrible fight to watch.I was very disappointed with Larsens performance(which is probably due to the fact that Ottke was excellent at ruining peoples offence) - Larsen won the fight. It wasn't a robbery, but it was a theft.

[BigBone]

That's a good fight... Larsen was very good a few years ago and almost pulled it off vs. Ottke.

However 5 years later, at 35, it seems he doesn't have the power and the same focus anymore... it's a shame he had to stay out of the ring for so long... but it's still a good and a very legitimate fight, Larsen is a good top10 contender.

I think it's gonna be an UD win for Bute, but if after those ring-rust-off fights Larsen can bring his A-game, Lucian better get prepared...

I like both guys and it's a good fight!

[laffie]

I'm surprised that there's not more of you thinking Bute can win by KO. He has 18 kos in 22 fights, but still people see him winning by UD.

[Maxime]

Beside the Danish posters, who might be biased, sean But now that Miranda made an offer (I'm not sure whether it's serious, or whether negotiations are even taking place, or whether the deal against Larsen's already been made or not, or whether Miranda was just keeping his name in the news...) I think fighting Miranda in Montreal, on Showtime, might be better for Bute's career than fighting an underrated last-chance saloon Larsen in Copenhagen...with no US TV exposure...


From what I heard Interbox have not even been contacted by Miranda promoter. So no, there are no talks or negotiations between the two camps.

[Paulie]

I think if Bute is fighting Larsen in Europe it because he have too for a reason...Otherwise, it does'nt make sense that he is not fighting Miranda in Montreal or in the States on Showtime or HBO...

[Decebal]

bumped for sean:D

[sean]

sorry only read this page.
i thought you were josey wales decebal with that avatar

is this fight actually in the works then ?

if so good fight, bute will get no credit if this is the case, but that would be wrong.

even at 34 larson is a good solid technician and nobodys fool.

[Decebal]

sorry only read this page.
i thought you were josey wales decebal with that avatar

is this fight actually in the works then ?

if so good fight, bute will get no credit if this is the case, but that would be wrong.

even at 34 larson is a good solid technician and nobodys fool.

:lol:

I was Joe C Wales...but admin deleted that account :(

This fight seems to be in the works. Miranda called Bute out but no one from his team has actually talked to Interbox...looks like it was just another self-promotional move. Interbox replied saying that Miranda would need a couple of good wins first anyway, before they'd be interested...

Read the opening post please - it says why this fight looks very likely.:good

[sean]

oh i see.

surprised this will take place in denmark, would make more sense in canada.

i see reading the first page that american posters are saying who /what/is a larson.

i suppose when i read the next 5 pages many more similar remarks.

[Decebal]

oh i see.

surprised this will take place in denmark, would make more sense in canada.

i see reading the first page that american posters are saying who /what/is a larson.

i suppose when i read the next 5 pages many more similar remarks.

I don't think it's just Americans; I don't know Larsen either, because I'm new to the sport...Larsen took two years off, so...many people who are new to the sport will not have heard of him...:think

[sean]

larsen did not take all those years off through injury.
he took them off because he was in a contract dispute with palle and it took all those years to be a free agent.

thats why he never fought after haussler.

and i never twigged you were josey wales and i read loads and loads of your posts on the australian forum.

[Decebal]

larsen did not take all those years off through injury.
he took them off because he was in a contract dispute with palle and it took all those years to be a free agent.

thats why he never fought after haussler.

yeah...some Danish posters explained...

I think this makes him underrated, because he isn't shot or even badly faded, like boxers who make a comeback from retirement...also, he will be fresher and less ground down than his age would suggest - that makes him underrated and dangerous, I think. No?

[Maden]

yeah...some Danish posters explained...

I think this makes him underrated, because he isn't shot or even badly faded, like boxers who make a comeback from retirement...also, he will be fresher and less ground down than his age would suggest - that makes him underrated and dangerous, I think. No?

TRUE!

[pecks]

The more I think about it, the less I see this fight happening due to the simple fact that it makes no sense.

Fighting Larsen in Denmark will do next to nothing for Bute in terms of exposure, and he wont get the credit he deserves from it.

Bad management imo. It's good to hear that they want to experience a "fighting in the lions den" situation, but surely theres more rewarding options out there?!

Apart from impressing us lot, there wont be too many people that will rate bute's win, if he indeed does win.

[LiamE]

The Larsen from 5 years ago would be a very close fight. I think Bute takes this now on a clear points verdict. 117-111 or so.

[Executioner]

i've never seen Larsen fight, can anyone tll me about him please

[DanePugilist]

If Palle had any sensibility he would free them from contract - this kind of shit isn't the danish way.

I have respect for all he has done over the years, making pro boxing possible in Denmark, but I wish he would give the reigns to Bettina... Or better yet - give me a call, and I will know how to handle TeamPalle.

[pecks]

If Palle had any sensibility he would free them from contract - this kind of shit isn't the danish way.

I have respect for all he has done over the years, making pro boxing possible in Denmark, but I wish he would give the reigns to Bettina... Or better yet - give me a call, and I will know how to handle TeamPalle.Larsen isn't with Palle anymore though, isn't he?

[sean]

Larsen isn't with Palle anymore though, isn't he?

no
he is now with wilfred sauerland from germany.

[pecks]

no
he is now with wilfred sauerland from germany.yeah, I thought I heard something like that before.

Anyway, I'd like to see this fight happen, but I just can't see it happening at all, let alone in Denmark.

[Maxime]

The more I think about it, the less I see this fight happening due to the simple fact that it makes no sense.

Fighting Larsen in Denmark will do next to nothing for Bute in terms of exposure, and he wont get the credit he deserves from it.

Bad management imo. It's good to hear that they want to experience a "fighting in the lions den" situation, but surely theres more rewarding options out there?!

Apart from impressing us lot, there wont be too many people that will rate bute's win, if he indeed does win.

The theory is that Bute doesn't have a choice to face Larsen.

Larsen is promoted by Wilfred Sauerland. The same guy that was promoting Alejandro Berrio. We believe that Bute had to agree to defend the title against one of Sauerland's guys in order for Sauerland to let Berrio come to Montreal to defend his title. Bute and Interbox wanted the Berrio-Bute fight to be in Montreal al all cost so they agreed at the last minute to avoid the purse bid. Now it's time for Bute to honor that part of the contract.

I'm guessing Interbox wouldn't agree to go to Germany so they will be making the fight in Danemark.

[pecks]

The theory is that Bute doesn't have a choice to face Larsen.

Larsen is promoted by Wilfred Sauerland. The same guy that was promoting Alejandro Berrio. We believe that Bute had to agree to defend the title against one of Sauerland's guys in order for Sauerland to let Berrio come to Montreal to defend his title. Bute and Interbox wanted the Berrio-Bute fight to be in Montreal al all cost so they agreed at the last minute to avoid the purse bid. Now it's time for Bute to honor that part of the contract.

I'm guessing Interbox wouldn't agree to go to Germany so they will be making the fight in Danemark.That explains everything. Cheers. :good

[DanePugilist]

Larsen isn't with Palle anymore though, isn't he?No, but he should have released him as soon, as he didn't want him anymore in the stable - after the bad blood was created.

Some thing for Rudy Markussen - He was a good SMW as well - don't know why he didn't want to fight last time(againstSergey Tatevosyan), since I only viewed half of that match. It was some weird shit though, as he was screaming "But I don't want to fight"... or something like that, while in the ring.