Manny Pacquiao voted best pound for pound

[Brian123]

Yahoo! Boxing has Manny Pacquiao voted best P4P in a poll of 22,000+ votes. I have noticed many other boxing sites mentioning the same thing.

Billy C (the only boxing only radio show left) also put Manny as the best boxer in the sport due to to his class of opposition over his last 10 fights.

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[DanePugilist]

At least people have more sense than the self-appointed journalist experts from Ring magazine or whatever. The same people that think that Taylor, Hopkins, Wright and Pavlik belonged on a p4p top 10 list.

If I was a subscriber I would burn the magazine.

[Nestea]

I dont see any poll

[PH|LLA]

I dont see any poll
comon we all know you voted 21,000 times :D

[kg0208]

Cool.....but my vote is still for Mayweather. Despite the fact that I want to slap him.

[Nestea]

comon we all know you voted 21,000 times :D

How would I vote if I dont even see it :huh

Besides I'll pick Mayweather over Pacquiao any day.

[PH|LLA]

How would I vote if I dont even see it :huh

Besides I'll pick Mayweather over Pacquiao any day.
it was a joke.

IMO the gap between mayweather and Pac is not that big

[kg0208]

it was a joke.

IMO the gap between mayweather and Pac is not that big

Do you feel this way because of competition or do you feel the gap in actual in ring ability is relatively close?

[GazOC]

Mayweather is P4P.

[lefty]

Pacquiao? That guy is one-dimensional and really lost his last fight, he should feel lucky to be top 5 p4p.

[PH|LLA]

Do you feel this way because of competition or do you feel the gap in actual in ring ability is relatively close?
Its a mixture of both.

I feel that Pacquiao's in ring ability appears much less good than Floyd's because Pac's opposition is so much better (among other reasons), but that in fact it is not.

[kg0208]

Its a mixture of both.

I feel that Pacquiao's in ring ability appears much less good than Floyd's because his opposition is so much better, but that in fact it is not.

Well while I disagree, I understand the logic. :thumbsup

[rexobse]

PAC can make a case... He's been no. 1 in some P4P list for sometime now...

[lefty]

For a one dimensional guy he's not doing so bad now is he?


Yeah absolutely, doesn't change the fact that he is one-dimensional and has looked average in his last couple of fights.

[Pimp C]

Yahoo! Boxing has Manny Pacquiao voted best P4P in a poll of 22,000+ votes. I have noticed many other boxing sites mentioning the same thing.

Billy C (the only boxing only radio show left) also put Manny as the best boxer in the sport due to to his class of opposition over his last 10 fights.

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Who gives a fuck it's a fucking popularity contest.:deal Wake me up when ESPN or the Ring Mag has Pac ranked #1. Pac is lucky he got the nod over JMM I scored the fight for JMM.

[Pimp C]

Not to mention P4P means if both were the same size who would win and I think we all know PBF beats Pac.

[PH|LLA]

Not to mention P4P means if both were the same size who would win and I think we all know PBF beats Pac.
it would by far be Floyd's toughest test to date and the odds would be fucking close, but no doubt slightly in favor of Floyd

[tays001]

this I LUDACRIS. MAN EVERY ONE KNOW MIKE TYSON IS P4P #1 EVER SINCE THERE HAS BEEN TALK OF A COME BACK

[hellblazer]

PBF & Pac are tied @ #1 P4P

[puga_ni_nana]

Yeah absolutely, doesn't change the fact that he is one-dimensional and has looked average in his last couple of fights.

average? tell me again if marquez was a patsie and your argument would sound logical.

[Dunks]

Do you feel this way because of competition or do you feel the gap in actual in ring ability is relatively close?

P4P in my Opinion is Overall ring ability..........Mayweather dominates his oppositopn every fight and never gets any damage against him.....that to me is P4P....Manny Lost to Morrales and fought 2 close fights with Marquez that coulda went either way.....a P4P fighter DOMINATES many diff weight classes...Manny hasnt done that...

Mayweather all day:good

[Alo2006]

it would by far be Floyd's toughest test to date and the odds would be fucking close, but no doubt slightly in favor of Floyd

Mayweather would KO Pac, especially @ 147

[brooklyn1550]

There's an argument to be made in favor of Pacquiao, but I still have Mayweather number one.

[PH|LLA]

Mayweather would KO Pac, especially @ 147
this has nothing to do with anything.`

[acb]

Pacquiao? That guy is one-dimensional and really lost his last fight, he should feel lucky to be top 5 p4p.

:nono

[acb]

Mayweather would KO Pac, especially @ 147

And Pavlik would KO Mayweather, especialy at 160lbs.

[platnumpapi]

yea manny pac

[Dunks]

it would by far be Floyd's toughest test to date and the odds would be fucking close, but no doubt slightly in favor of Floyd

LMAO@ this....

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Pac Man would get DOMINATED!!!! Do you think a 1 handed lil man would pose any problems to Mayweather?....come on buddy....it would look like this fight below but it would all be under 3 rounds

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[acb]

Pac Man would get DOMINATED!!!! Do you think a 1 handed lil man would pose any problems to Mayweather?....come on buddy....it would look like this fight below but it would all be under 3 rounds



You don't know the meaning of pound for pound do you?

[puga_ni_nana]

LMAO@ this....

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Pac Man would get DOMINATED!!!! Do you think a 1 handed lil man would pose any problems to Mayweather?....come on buddy....it would look like this fight below but it would all be under 3 rounds

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he was answering a question that if they were of same size. would maywether stop pac in 3 if that's the case?

[PH|LLA]

Pac may have moved up like 7 divisions but he is not a little man at 130 thats for sure

[acb]

would maywether stop pac in 3 if that's the case?

Not a chance in hell. He would win the fight but he would have to take Pac into deep waters to do it and the first half of the fight he would have to avoid big shots and establish his jab.

I see him winning a close decision to be honest. Pac has a hell of a chin.

[punch13]

Manny Pacquiao as p4p very best boxer today. Congratulation Pacquiao.

[Dunks]

he was answering a question that if they were of same size. would maywether stop pac in 3 if that's the case?

If "IF" was a 5th we'd all be drunk!!!

Pac Man aint even in the same league as mayweather...that double Jab..straight left bull shit will be nullified within a few rounds.(SEE ZAB JUDAH FIGHT)..then it would be Target practice:good

[PH|LLA]

If "IF" was a 5th we'd all be drunk!!!

Pac Man aint even in the same league as mayweather...that double Jab..straight left bull shit will be nullified within a few rounds.(SEE ZAB JUDAH FIGHT)..then it would be Target practice:good
:lol: it sounds like you're already drunk comparing Zab to Pacquiao

[puga_ni_nana]

If "IF" was a 5th we'd all be drunk!!!

Pac Man aint even in the same league as mayweather...that double Jab..straight left bull shit will be nullified within a few rounds.(SEE ZAB JUDAH FIGHT)..then it would be Target practice:good

zab and pac are leagues apart. in natural talent almost the same but not as a fighter. and zab did gave floyd some trouble during the early rounds. you assume that floyd would walk thru pac like gatti. the difference is that if floyd fought a same-sized pac, it would be his toughest match in his career. maybe even tougher than castillo. and floyd would have have to dig deep on it.

[Executioner]

:lol: it sounds like you're already drunk comparing Zab to Pacquiao

zab has similar speed but is 5 x more powerful

[puga_ni_nana]

zab has similar speed but is 5 x more powerful

of course. but pound-for-pound, pac hits as hard or might be even harder than zab.

[acb]

If "IF" was a 5th we'd all be drunk!!!

Pac Man aint even in the same league as mayweather...that double Jab..straight left bull shit will be nullified within a few rounds.(SEE ZAB JUDAH FIGHT)..then it would be Target practice:good

If Pac was Judah he would have given up or found a way to lose most of the fights he has been in. Just stop.

[puga_ni_nana]

If Pac was Judah he would have given up or found a way to lose most of the fights he has been in. Just stop.

in fairness to judah, he fought a very good fight against cotto even in defeat. he didn't gave up even with those low blows. i hope he will give mosley a good fight.

[JohnPaul Futbol]

Mayweather's obviously the more skilled fighter, and rightfully P4P #1.....but Pac has a good case.....and he's faced better comp recently. Anybody that thinks Pac is not top 5.....is crazy.

[PH|LLA]

Mayweather's obviously the more skilled fighter, and rightfully P4P #1.....but Pac has a good case.....and he's faced better comp recently. Anybody that thinks Pac is not top 5.....is crazy.
there are a bunch of fighters that are more skilled than Pacquiao, but that doesn't make them better fighters than him.

but anyways you're right, PBF deserves the top spot

[boxbox]

PBF still holds it... he's holding on to a good resume. not the latest fights tho.

[Farmboxer]

Pac will knock Casa out.

[Silvermags]

Cool.....but my vote is still for Mayweather. Despite the fact that I want to slap him.

Why do you want to slap him? if he does not fight cotto this year then he is really avoiding cotto, then by all means slap him..

I should say, pac is still # 2 but the gap I believe is much smaller now..

if pac wins agianst david diaz and pbf does not have any significant fight then i guess pac has the right to move to #1..

[Brian123]

PAC can make a case... He's been no. 1 in some P4P list for sometime now...

Kevin Iole-Yahoo Boxing's main expert has said from time to time that a 125 ish pound boxer should not be considered a pound for pound candidate-guess his readers disagree!

[Circa]

<<<< theres only one =D

[1punch1nder]

Not a chance in hell. He would win the fight but he would have to take Pac into deep waters to do it and the first half of the fight he would have to avoid big shots and establish his jab.

I see him winning a close decision to be honest. Pac has a hell of a chin.

:blood

[Brian123]

Not a chance in hell. He would win the fight but he would have to take Pac into deep waters to do it and the first half of the fight he would have to avoid big shots and establish his jab.

I see him winning a close decision to be honest. Pac has a hell of a chin.

So true JMM unloaded on him 3 times in one round last fight and while he stumbled a little he kept going foward dido Morales-most guys would have surely benn down.

[Tito Time]

I actually rewatched the fight last night and had it a draw. Before I had Marq winning.

[PH|LLA]

there are a bunch of fighters that are more skilled than Pacquiao, but that doesn't make them better fighters than him.
I take this statement back. Seems i underrated Pac's skill

[jupzrooni]

Pacquiao? That guy is one-dimensional and really lost his last fight, he should feel lucky to be top 5 p4p.

idiot.

FMJ is still #1 though even if he's pissing off boxing fans right now

[general]

Floyd will still be the pound for pound best. But the fact that many respected boxing fans and writers talk about pacs. means he comes closed second pound for pound best to them.

[kg0208]

Why do you want to slap him? if he does not fight cotto this year then he is really avoiding cotto, then by all means slap him..

I should say, pac is still # 2 but the gap I believe is much smaller now..

if pac wins agianst david diaz and pbf does not have any significant fight then i guess pac has the right to move to #1..

He isn't going to fight Cotto this year.....that's why I want to slap him. He is already scheduled to take on DLH in September.

[brooklyn1550]

He isn't going to fight Cotto this year.....that's why I want to slap him. He is already scheduled to take on DLH in September.

Would that slap turn into a punch if he followed up De La Hoya with another Hatton fight?

[kg0208]

Would that slap turn into a punch if he followed up De La Hoya with another Hatton fight?

I wouldn't even waste more thought on it.....

As a matter of fact, I am putting more thought into my new avatar than Mayweather currently.

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of his ability in the ring. But I can't think of a real reason not to fight Cotto right now. If you're gonna say "You're fighting for legacy" well then, fight the top fighter on list.

[brooklyn1550]

I wouldn't even waste more thought on it.....

As a matter of fact, I am putting more thought into my new avatar than Mayweather currently.

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of his ability in the ring. But I can't think of a real reason not to fight Cotto right now. If you're gonna say "You're fighting for legacy" well then, fight the top fighter on list.

Those are my thoughts. There's simply no reason not to fight Cotto. If Floyd's a true champion, I trust he'll step it up.

Any ideas on the new avatar? Boxing related? Wife related?

[1lehudson]

Would that slap turn into a punch if he followed up De La Hoya with another Hatton fight?Fuk Hatton II. I would rather see Floyd fight Clottey. At least we havent seen that one yet.

If floyd fights Hatton He should just go ahead and retire, and not even waste own time. Hatton was outclassed, no one outside of a few hatton fans and floyds accountants want to see that fight again.

[kg0208]

Those are my thoughts. There's simply no reason not to fight Cotto. If Floyd's a true champion, I trust he'll step it up.

Any ideas on the new avatar? Boxing related? Wife related?

I want to do both actually.....since it seems to be my calling card for better or worse, I don't want to deviate from Mrs. KG. I would love to put her in a pair of boxing gloves and a nice bikini for a good shot.

I have some old pics of her, but in all honesty, it's hard to find pics of her where she isn't at least topless and while the Lounge seems to be cool with that, the general forum is a different place.

[brooklyn1550]

Fuk Hatton II. I would rather see Floyd fight Clottey. At least we havent seen that one yet.

If floyd fights Hatton He should just go ahead and retire, and not even waste own time. Hatton was outclassed, no one outside of a few hatton fans and floyds accountants want to see that fight again.

If he indeed fights Hatton in 2009 and still doesn't bring up Cotto as a worthy opponent, I think it's safe to say he'd be the P4P kind of ducking high risk fights.

Not that he hasn't faced real challenges in the past, because he has. But another Hatton fight would be bordering on just plain ridiculous. It would be blatantly obvious that he's avoiding Cotto.

[brooklyn1550]

I want to do both actually.....since it seems to be my calling card for better or worse, I don't want to deviate from Mrs. KG. I would love to put her in a pair of boxing gloves and a nice bikini for a good shot.

I have some old pics of her, but in all honesty, it's hard to find pics of her where she isn't at least topless and while the Lounge seems to be cool with that, the general forum is a different place.

I hear ya...

Sounds good. You put far more thought into your avatars than myself. I don't think I've gone more than 10 hours without switching it up:lol:

[1lehudson]

If he indeed fights Hatton in 2009 and still doesn't bring up Cotto as a worthy opponent, I think it's safe to say he'd be the P4P kind of ducking high risk fights.

Not that he hasn't faced real challenges in the past, because he has. But another Hatton fight would be bordering on just plain ridiculous. It would be blatantly obvious that he's avoiding Cotto.I have said it many times before, but I think that Oscar is more likely to beat Floyd in the rematch then Cotto is. I dont think that Cotto has the tools to beat Floyd. Oscar does. I dont blame him for taking a fight with Oscar...However Hatton??? I dont think so. Unless he fights either the winner of Margo/Cintron..Most likey Cintron.

Arum isnt all that excited about putting Cotto in the ring with Floyd. Bet your money on that one. I dont think that a fight with Cotto would be very likely..Or Margo for that matter if he beats Cintron. Arum has stated many many times that he would rather not deal with Floyd. In the latest one I heard was him saying that they have never made an offer for Cotto to fight Floyd because Floyd would ask for soo much money that it would make it tough to make the fight. My queston would have been how do you know?? Floyd already stated to Arum that he would fight Cotto for 10 million two years ago and Arum said he would only get him 7. Translation, Arum isnt going to make this fight easy. I understand that. So I know that if the fight dont happen its not because Floyd is ducking Cotto, but Arum is in the way.

[brooklyn1550]

I have said it many times before, but I think that Oscar is more likely to beat Floyd in the rematch then Cotto is. I dont think that Cotto has the tools to beat Floyd. Oscar does. I dont blame him for taking a fight with Oscar...However Hatton??? I dont think so. Unless he fights either the winner of Margo/Cintron..Most likey Cintron.

Arum isnt all that excited about putting Cotto in the ring with Floyd. Bet your money on that one. I dont think that a fight with Cotto would be very likely..Or Margo for that matter if he beats Cintron. Arum has stated many many times that he would rather not deal with Floyd. In the latest one I heard was him saying that they have never made an offer for Cotto to fight Floyd because Floyd would ask for soo much money that it would make it tough to make the fight. My queston would have been how do you know?? Floyd already stated to Arum that he would fight Cotto for 10 million two years ago and Arum said he would only get him 7. Translation, Arum isnt going to make this fight easy. I understand that. So I know that if the fight dont happen its not because Floyd is ducking Cotto, but Arum is in the way.

You bring up good points regarding Arum. He has shown a reluctance to deal with Mayweather. Honestly, I don't like getting into politics. I just want this fight made.

[kg0208]

I would feel more comfortable if Mayweather tried to negotiate and failed rather than saying Cotto needs more drawing power or to prove more in the ring.

[1lehudson]

I would feel more comfortable if Mayweather tried to negotiate and failed rather than saying Cotto needs more drawing power or to prove more in the ring.As I stated Floyd tried to get Cotto in the ring two years ago. Arum shut it down. And that was when Floyd was still with Arum.

As far as the comments that floyd made that stuff happens all the time, its like setting the table before you sit down. It a way of a fighter saying that im going to make more money then the other guy. However would it make a difference if Floyd was calling Cotto out everyday?? Would that make Arum more willing to make the fight happen?? I recall Hopkins and Jones doing that sh*t for the better part of a decade and they never had a rematch.

Bottom line is Arum is going to be in the way of that fight. I think for two reason...ONE he really hates Floyd know. And when this guys dislikes someone he will cut off his own hand instead of shaking that guys hand. Many may not know why Floyd left Arum and Top rank. It was because of the fight with Oscar, Arum wanted nothing to do with Oscar. floyd had to leave Top Rank in order to get that fight. It may be the same thing with Cotto. Arum isnt going to make it easy.

Here is what I think will happen...Cotto will end up fighting the Winner of Cintron/Margo..but only if its Margo. Kinda like Williams/Margo were cotto was going to get the winner:roll: . We know what happened there. Floyd will fight Oscar, and then Hatton. Everyone will be pissed off to no end...Cotto will push Arum to get the fight with Floyd..while Floyd will say that he is retired. Cotto will then Leave Arum and all of a sudden the fight with Floyd will get made.

I would bet money that is how its going to go down. Unless one of them loses in the mean time.

[Amsterdam]

Do you feel this way because of competition or do you feel the gap in actual in ring ability is relatively close?

Mayweather's declining though...

Anyway, Mayweather remains at #1 because Pac didn't beat Marquez decisively even in close but clear fashion.:p

[Amsterdam]

Those are my thoughts. There's simply no reason not to fight Cotto. If Floyd's a true champion, I trust he'll step it up.

Any ideas on the new avatar? Boxing related? Wife related?

KG sporting a Cristian Mijares avatar would make my day.:D

[kg0208]

As I stated Floyd tried to get Cotto in the ring two years ago. Arum shut it down. And that was when Floyd was still with Arum.

As far as the comments that floyd made that stuff happens all the time, its like setting the table before you sit down. It a way of a fighter saying that im going to make more money then the other guy. However would it make a difference if Floyd was calling Cotto out everyday?? Would that make Arum more willing to make the fight happen?? I recall Hopkins and Jones doing that sh*t for the better part of a decade and they never had a rematch.

Bottom line is Arum is going to be in the way of that fight. I think for two reason...ONE he really hates Floyd know. And when this guys dislikes someone he will cut off his own hand instead of shaking that guys hand. Many may not know why Floyd left Arum and Top rank. It was because of the fight with Oscar, Arum wanted nothing to do with Oscar. floyd had to leave Top Rank in order to get that fight. It may be the same thing with Cotto. Arum isnt going to make it easy.

Here is what I think will happen...Cotto will end up fighting the Winner of Cintron/Margo..but only if its Margo. Kinda like Williams/Margo were cotto was going to get the winner:roll: . We know what happened there. Floyd will fight Oscar, and then Hatton. Everyone will be pissed off to no end...Cotto will push Arum to get the fight with Floyd..while Floyd will say that he is retired. Cotto will then Leave Arum and all of a sudden the fight with Floyd will get made.

I would bet money that is how its going to go down. Unless one of them loses in the mean time.
Cotto wasn't the status he is now. There were certainly other options on the table, and Cotto wasn't the top of the heap. Now he is. Yes Arum will make it difficult. But like I said, if Mayweather made an offer and it was turned down, it would ease the tension. Saying Cotto isn't ready is BS.

Jones vs Hopkins not a good analogy since that is a rematch scenario and Jones of course still had other options as well. Cotto and Mayweather have never fought and we have no idea who the better fighter is.

I am not saying the scenario won't happen as you laid out. What I am talking about is right now though, or the very near future. If Arum turns down a PBF offer, then it turns back to them as the ones who are doing the ducking.

[Silvermags]

If he indeed fights Hatton in 2009 and still doesn't bring up Cotto as a worthy opponent, I think it's safe to say he'd be the P4P kind of ducking high risk fights.

Not that he hasn't faced real challenges in the past, because he has. But another Hatton fight would be bordering on just plain ridiculous. It would be blatantly obvious that he's avoiding Cotto.

Excellent post! Lets give him a 9 months to a year to fight Cotto! If it does not happen.. I wonder what PBF and PBF fans will say...