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elTerrible
03-30-2008, 10:11 PM
damn

BigReg
03-30-2008, 10:12 PM
He's pretty leathel with that straight right. If he's got brass knucks on, you don't stand a chance.

C Money
03-30-2008, 10:13 PM
Yes a STAGED event ladies and gentlemen.:D

PH|LLA
03-30-2008, 10:13 PM
get this crap out of the boxing forum :lol:

TheChamp1000
03-30-2008, 10:14 PM
Yes a STAGED event ladies and gentlemen.:D

don't lie, ITS REAL!

BewareofDawg
03-30-2008, 10:15 PM
Big Show was exposed tonight.

nickthegreek
03-30-2008, 10:15 PM
Oh my god, i don't think i've ever seen something so funny in my whole life.

Mayweather is hilariously shit at acting. Never seen anything like it. Screaming like a bitch :D Fair play to him though, he got thrown about a bit and played his part.

Too fucking funny that.

smoochp
03-30-2008, 10:15 PM
get this crap out of the boxing forum :lol:
:rofl , It's entertainment my man. It's all over know so just hope Forbes win and Cotto can insult him

El Presidente
03-30-2008, 10:15 PM
:rofl

Boom_Boom
03-30-2008, 10:16 PM
this shit wasnt entertaining the one bit, but i did get shocked for a little bit when the bigshow jumped on PBF arm

C Money
03-30-2008, 10:17 PM
Oh my god, i don't think i've ever seen something so funny in my whole life.

Mayweather is hilariously shit at acting. Never seen anything like it. Screaming like a bitch :D Fair play to him though, he got thrown about a bit and played his part.

Too fucking funny that.

I'd love a pic of him crying while Big Show dragged him back to the ring. That acting was super fucking hilarious:scaredas:

Samurai
03-30-2008, 10:17 PM
That was fun. I was laughing so hard throughout the whole thing

BigReg
03-30-2008, 10:18 PM
Big Show was exposed tonight.

Possibly. Had Mayweather fought a prime, active Show, it might have been a different story. I think Show certainly has a glass jaw. If you can't take a few chair shots and a straight right from a guy wearing brass knucks, then you don't need to be in the WWE.

elTerrible
03-30-2008, 10:18 PM
Oh my god, i don't think i've ever seen something so funny in my whole life.

Mayweather is hilariously shit at acting. Never seen anything like it. Screaming like a bitch :D Fair play to him though, he got thrown about a bit and played his part.

Too fucking funny that.


that was fucking hilarious

Him jumping up there doing the sleeper hold on Big Show, the size difference:lol:


They didnt do any too crazy of moves as Mayweather is new to all the work. But it was pretty entertaining in that its funny.

CJLightweight
03-30-2008, 10:20 PM
big show was robbed:deal

Larson
03-30-2008, 10:20 PM
Glass jawed fucking bum

nickthegreek
03-30-2008, 10:20 PM
I'd love a pic of him crying while Big Show dragged him back to the ring. That acting was super fucking hilarious:scaredas:

Got a feeling there will be a few around tomorrow.

Love a GIF of Floyd screaming like a girl when he was getting stomped on.

Funniest thing i've seen in years. Nice one Floyd.

JMP
03-30-2008, 10:22 PM
i love how floyds follower got choke slamed i nearly died it was so funny

C Money
03-30-2008, 10:23 PM
Got a feeling there will be a few around tomorrow.

Love a GIF of Floyd screaming like a girl when he was getting stomped on.

Funniest thing i've seen in years. Nice one Floyd.

You're right those girlish screams sounded a bit real as Big Show stood on him:rofl

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:24 PM
wrestling is fake

BigReg
03-30-2008, 10:24 PM
wrestling is fake

:yikes

TheChamp1000
03-30-2008, 10:25 PM
Possibly. Had Mayweather fought a prime, active Show, it might have been a different story. I think Show certainly has a glass jaw. If you can't take a few chair shots and a straight right from a guy wearing brass knucks, then you don't need to be in the WWE.

:rofl Darn right! :good

elTerrible
03-30-2008, 10:25 PM
wrestling is fake


um no shit cunt face


but it was funny and entertaining


Money Mayweather KO 1 Big Show:deal

CJLightweight
03-30-2008, 10:26 PM
i'll wait for a link on you tube:yep

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:28 PM
lol so you guys think wrestling is real :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

its scripted you fucking morons hence its not real. do you really think they are getting hit full force with chairs, brass knuckles, pipes, etc

some of you guys must be 11

nickthegreek
03-30-2008, 10:31 PM
lol so you guys think wrestling is real :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

its scripted you fucking morons hence its not real. do you really think they are getting hit full force with chairs, brass knuckles, pipes, etc

some of you guys must be 11

Nobody thinks its real. Well i certainly don't anyway. It was some of the funniest shit i've seen in a long time though.

Fab2333
03-30-2008, 10:32 PM
he won? how? get the f**k outta here

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:32 PM
Nobody thinks its real. Well i certainly don't anyway. It was some of the funniest shit i've seen in a long time though.

elterible thought it was real he called me a cunt and said its not fake

big reg as well

BigReg
03-30-2008, 10:34 PM
elterible thought it was real he called me a cunt and said its not fake

big reg as well

You're not too bright, are you? It's all good. It's the internet, it's not always so easy to detect sarcasm. Everyone and their mother knows wrestling is fake. Who the hell would really believe that Mayweather would participate in a real fight with the Big Show?

Action
03-30-2008, 10:37 PM
--Show's a bum
--The ref stopped it too quick
--Big Show is shot
--PBF got a gift
--Big Show should retire
--Pretty Boy gets KTFO in a rematch
--Manny Pacquiao would have stopped him sooner
--Does this prove Floyd is an ATG?
--Who has Show ever beat?
--Why does Mayweather continue to fight these bums?
--How would DLH do with Big Show?
--Would they rematch at 147?

elTerrible
03-30-2008, 10:37 PM
elterible thought it was real he called me a cunt and said its not fake

big reg as well


You would get KOed too if you got hit with brass nuckles by Money Mayweather, he had him out.


Money May was able to use his speed and lateral movement to negate Big Shows reach advantage.

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:39 PM
You would get KOed too if you got hit with brass nuckles by Money Mayweather, he had him out.

if you really think that was real your nuts. those knuckles looked like they were a stage prop

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:40 PM
You're not too bright, are you? It's all good. It's the internet, it's not always so easy to detect sarcasm. Everyone and their mother knows wrestling is fake. Who the hell would really believe that Mayweather would participate in a real fight with the Big Show?

mama alwayz told be i was special and i was no different than the other kids

puga_ni_nana
03-30-2008, 10:41 PM
if you really think that was real your nuts. those knuckles looked like they were a stage prop


lol :lol:

i don't know if your serious or not.

elTerrible
03-30-2008, 10:42 PM
if you really think that was real your nuts. those knuckles looked like they were a stage prop


The Big Show was tired because he was nearly out from that choke hold. It doenst matter how big you are, anyone in a sleeper hold get get unconscious. He was weakened and Money May was able to capitolize on the situation.

Did you even watch the fight?

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:43 PM
lol :lol:

i don't know if your serious or not.

do you really think floyd hit him with real brass knuckles? even if they were real i guarantee he didnt hit him as hard as he could

it dont even matter if he really hit him my main argument is wrestling isfake due to it being scripted beforehand

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:44 PM
The Big Show was tired because he was nearly out from that choke hold. It doenst matter how big you are, anyone in a sleeper hold get get unconscious. He was weakened and Money May was able to capitolize on the situation.

Did you even watch the fight?

actually yes i did my room mate for some reason like wrestling even though it FAKE AND SCRIPTED

me being the boxing fan i am i watched the floyd mayweather circus act

nyupipe
03-30-2008, 10:46 PM
All you jokers ordered wrestlemania to see mayweather when you normally wouldnt have. This means the ploy worked for the WWE, and will probably be used again. Only in America can someone with barely a HS education get paid 20 million dollars to dance around a ring to a script.

I cant decide whats worse the WWE for setting it up, or all the fools for paying to see it.


The Big Show was tired because he was nearly out from that choke hold. It doenst matter how big you are, anyone in a sleeper hold get get unconscious. He was weakened and Money May was able to capitolize on the situation.

Did you even watch the fight?

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:46 PM
All you jokers ordered wrestlemania to see mayweather when you normally wouldnt have. This means the ploy worked for the WWE, and will probably be used again. Only in America can someone with barely a HS education get paid 20 million dollars to dance around a ring to a script.

I cant decide whats worse the WWE for setting it up, or all the fools for paying to see it.

the fools for paying for it. i didnt buy it but i saw it

elTerrible
03-30-2008, 10:48 PM
All you jokers ordered wrestlemania to see mayweather when you normally wouldnt have. This means the ploy worked for the WWE, and will probably be used again. Only in America can someone with barely a HS education get paid 20 million dollars to dance around a ring to a script.

I cant decide whats worse the WWE for setting it up, or all the fools for paying to see it.



*******:deal

And who gives a shit if someone with only highschool can make 20 million, People are willing to pay that much to be entertained by Money May. This is economics 101. Would you prefer a communist system of government?

elTerrible
03-30-2008, 10:51 PM
damn

Undertaker is the new world heavyweight Champion.


16-0 undefeated baby

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:52 PM
damn

Undertaker is the new world heavyweight Champion.


16-0 undefeated baby

if i was going by a script id be undefeated in the wwe as well

nickthegreek
03-30-2008, 10:52 PM
All you jokers ordered wrestlemania to see mayweather when you normally wouldnt have. This means the ploy worked for the WWE, and will probably be used again. Only in America can someone with barely a HS education get paid 20 million dollars to dance around a ring to a script.

I cant decide whats worse the WWE for setting it up, or all the fools for paying to see it.

Who payed to see it?

If anybody paid to see this then yes they are dumb, but they would be even dumber to not notice one of the 20 odd streams that have been doing the rounds tonight.

Thunderlips
03-30-2008, 10:52 PM
Is Big Show another Kronk Fighter?

elTerrible
03-30-2008, 10:53 PM
if i was going by a script id be undefeated in the wwe as well



no you wouldnt, you are the most dull boring cunt on this board with no sense of humor. They would never hire you to be an entertainer.

You would be the guy running up and down the aisles picking up popcorn and bottles after closing time.

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:56 PM
no you wouldnt, you are the most dull boring cunt on this board with no sense of humor. They would never hire you to be an entertainer.

You would be the guy running up and down the aisles picking up popcorn and bottles after closing time.

real manly of you to call me a cunt of all things

go find your steve austin doll and cuddle with it after your mom reads you a bedtime story

puga_ni_nana
03-30-2008, 10:58 PM
damn

Undertaker is the new world heavyweight Champion.


16-0 undefeated baby


floyd should fight taker next wrestlemania. to hell with cotto.

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 10:58 PM
You ever fucking heard of SARCASM??? :roll:

Jesus christ, you aint exactly the sharpest tool in the shed are you

i dunno ive met a lot of dee dee dee's that think wrestling is real

and yea its hard to detect stupidity/seriousness on a message board. its not like a conversation

TFFP
03-30-2008, 11:00 PM
Wow, that looked real to me. Just look at Show's face, it looked painful

You lot...get the fuck outta here. Discrediting Floyd's win :yep

emanuel_augustus
03-30-2008, 11:03 PM
Got a feeling there will be a few around tomorrow.

Love a GIF of Floyd screaming like a girl when he was getting stomped on.

Funniest thing i've seen in years. Nice one Floyd.

I would say a fake stomping would be well worth 20 million. I'd even throw in as many girl screams as you wanted. My question is, enough morons pay for these things to actually bring in enough money to pay one guy 20 mil?

Somewhere P.T. Barnum smiles.

the_what
03-30-2008, 11:06 PM
Big Show is the first person to ever succesfully score a KD of Mayweather.

Melo
03-30-2008, 11:09 PM
I watched the "fight", didn't pay of course, but that was some funny shit, surprisingly entertaining. The rest of the show was crap though, a bunch of old men stumbling around acting hurt. I still can't believe there was 74.000 people in attendance...

PH|LLA
03-30-2008, 11:10 PM
Any1 Who Thinks Wrestling Is Not Real Or Is Just Scripted Is Just A Money May Hater

Farmboxer
03-30-2008, 11:12 PM
If "anyone" believes this fake crap, I have a bridge I will sell them. No wonder Bush got elected!

rexobse
03-30-2008, 11:14 PM
All you jokers ordered wrestlemania to see mayweather when you normally wouldnt have. This means the ploy worked for the WWE, and will probably be used again. Only in America can someone with barely a HS education get paid 20 million dollars to dance around a ring to a script.

I cant decide whats worse the WWE for setting it up, or all the fools for paying to see it.

Those who paid to see it are dumber than the 2 million who bought the PBF-DLH ppv... Unless these peeps were looking for an entertaining circus show...

hmi
03-30-2008, 11:22 PM
Big Show was exposed! I know he was overrated. :!:

Farmboxer
03-30-2008, 11:22 PM
I have to agree with REX.

ozziebattler
03-30-2008, 11:23 PM
I still dont believe Mayweather got paid 20million.

My little couson is a massive wrestling nerd and he reckons the top wrestlers are only making 600k-800k a year..

Just cant see mayweather getting the likes of hulk hogans 10year salary for 1 15minute wankfest against the bigshow.

Wrestlemania gets shitloads of nerds around the world watching it regardless of whos fighting.

I actually remember when i was around 7year old in the early 90's and actually believed the ultimate warrior had a curse put on him by papa shango...Shit i was a sad kid .lol

Sebastien
03-30-2008, 11:27 PM
lol so you guys think wrestling is real :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

its scripted you fucking morons hence its not real. do you really think they are getting hit full force with chairs, brass knuckles, pipes, etc

some of you guys must be 11

You sound like the kid who's just been told Santa's not real and goes on to tell everybody acting all smart.

vargasfan1985
03-30-2008, 11:31 PM
You sound like the kid who's just been told Santa's not real and goes on to tell everybody acting all smart.

thank you

Sebastien
03-30-2008, 11:35 PM
thank you

Problem is everybody already knew about Santa... where does that kid go next?

twenty1
03-30-2008, 11:43 PM
Im back.......damn I missed it

elTerrible
03-30-2008, 11:44 PM
If "anyone" believes this fake crap, I have a bridge I will sell them. No wonder Bush got elected!


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


You managed to work Bush in there didnt you, not surprised.:lol:

Tencount85
03-30-2008, 11:49 PM
It's funny reading the comments on yahoo answers. people (the wrestling fans) are complaining and calling mayweather a pussy and a fake fighter haha. seems like a lot of people will be losing sleep tonight

zerasoth
03-31-2008, 12:39 AM
I would say a fake stomping would be well worth 20 million. I'd even throw in as many girl screams as you wanted. My question is, enough morons pay for these things to actually bring in enough money to pay one guy 20 mil?

Somewhere P.T. Barnum smiles.

Mayweather got 3 million for the show, not 20 as alot on here seem to think....

Monstar
03-31-2008, 12:40 AM
great win.

Cotto has never won shit besides a worthless WBA strap.

Floyd > Cotto

haha... word

atleast we get to look foroward to groundbreaking rematch with de la hoya next though

JMP
03-31-2008, 12:40 AM
i love how people go to wrestling matches like Wrestlemania and some people believe its real.

Floyds gonna be talking during the de la hoya rematch like i'm the best i already beat you, hatton, judah, gatti, and the bigshow

zerasoth
03-31-2008, 12:41 AM
I still dont believe Mayweather got paid 20million.

My little couson is a massive wrestling nerd and he reckons the top wrestlers are only making 600k-800k a year..

Just cant see mayweather getting the likes of hulk hogans 10year salary for 1 15minute wankfest against the bigshow.

Wrestlemania gets shitloads of nerds around the world watching it regardless of whos fighting.

I actually remember when i was around 7year old in the early 90's and actually believed the ultimate warrior had a curse put on him by papa shango...Shit i was a sad kid .lol


Haha i remember that, dont worry man, i was crushed aswell. I'm pretty sure mayweather got paid 3 million to go on the show, not 20, which does sound alot more reasonable

bigtime9
03-31-2008, 12:56 AM
Haha i remember that, dont worry man, i was crushed aswell. I'm pretty sure mayweather got paid 3 million to go on the show, not 20, which does sound alot more reasonable

yeah 3 million sounds reasnoable if you throw in a buy rate clause.. I mean there is more money in boxing then wrestling.

if 74,000 people can only generate 5.85 million in ticket sales then the economics of wrestling is dwarfed by boxing.

the gate for the floyd vs hatton fight was 10.5 million for 16,000 people.:rofl

same goes for the oscar fight 19 million live gate for 16,000 people.

the tickets at wembley next year will be pretty expensive if they hope to beat the live gate record set by floyd vs oscar.

Carlos Primera
03-31-2008, 01:07 AM
show is a bum.

brooklyn1550
03-31-2008, 01:14 AM
Good win for Floyd, but he'd ducking the real challenges. The guy needs to fight The Undertaker.

doomeddisciple
03-31-2008, 01:15 AM
Good win for Floyd, but he'd ducking the real challenges. The guy needs to fight The Undertaker.

LOL - Post of the Day - Plus fight him at Wrestlemania where the UT is undefeated....

knockout
03-31-2008, 01:17 AM
He needs to fight Valuev before Wlad.

brooklyn1550
03-31-2008, 01:18 AM
LOL - Post of the Day - Plus fight him at Wrestlemania where the UT is undefeated....

Wrestlemania 2009: Somebody's 0 Has Gotta Go!

Nazarene
03-31-2008, 01:18 AM
Good win for Floyd, but he'd ducking the real challenges. The guy needs to fight The Undertaker.
wtf? taker is no match for money may.
floyd is clearly p4p the best ever. what can taker bring that floyd cant?
after seeing this fight i dont think anyone can take on money may. this fight was like the second coming of the rumble in the jungle

Farmboxer
03-31-2008, 01:49 AM
Average IQ of wrestling fans is around the same as Bush Boy.

polo
03-31-2008, 01:50 AM
great win.

Cotto has never won shit besides a worthless WBA strap.

Floyd > Cotto Wow major news... I wonder if punkweather
had the WBA if you would still regard that belt worthless ??? :huh

N.Y.C. M.R. :rasta :rasta :rasta

Farmboxer
03-31-2008, 01:53 AM
How could anyone take that wrestling match seriously? Incredible!

Wrestling is prefabricated.

brooklyn1550
03-31-2008, 01:55 AM
wtf? taker is no match for money may.
floyd is clearly p4p the best ever. what can taker bring that floyd cant?
after seeing this fight i dont think anyone can take on money may. this fight was like the second coming of the rumble in the jungle

If Castillo gave Floyd all he could handle, I have no doubt Taker can.

polo
03-31-2008, 01:57 AM
Big-REG is that you??? You are my son... You know who this is right???
your Father. Lets just say I was put on the shelf 4 a while......
peace - out dog... STAY-UP..............N.Y.C. M.R.

1lehudson
03-31-2008, 02:01 AM
How could anyone take that wrestling match seriously? Incredible!

Wrestling is prefabricated.You mean like you think that Boxing is any time a black fighter beats a white one:hey

Farmboxer
03-31-2008, 02:03 AM
I know about boxing politics.

1lehudson
03-31-2008, 02:13 AM
I know about boxing politics.:lol:

But it only applies when the guy that your backing loses right??

Dude get real. We all know King is a crook, and Wlad has never lost a fair fight. He was drugged and the FBI was going to investigate:yep

That crap is a joke....No one here thinks that this stuff is real....We all knew that Floyd was going to win, despite being 2 feet shorter and 300 pounds lighter. You not telling us ground breaking new here.

Sad that your hatered is so strong that you cant even take this for what it is...ENTERTAINMENT....HOWEVER it has some value for Floyd and boxing. What so many people like you dont understand is that Vince McMahon is a GENUIS when it comes to PPV. He does it better then anyone eles in the history of the World. If Floyd can get 10% of those people to tap into boxing, or even just his next fight it would be HUGE..WWE averages 500,000 buys for there ppv and they have one every month. Its nothing for thier big ones to due close to 2 million buys. Boxing PPV's cant match that

Settle down you not the smartest guy in the room and your not telling ANYONE something that they dont already know. Hell my 8 year old knows that WWE isnt real.

maciek4
03-31-2008, 02:14 AM
Why is he lying about his income though?

"Floyd allegedly was paid $20,000,000 for participating in this pay-per-view exhibition, although some insiders estimate the actual number to be as low as $2 million plus incentives."

Same thing with Baldomir, he claimed to have gotten 8 mil when he only got 3.5.

Farmboxer
03-31-2008, 02:18 AM
Dear Mr. Bogden:

I am an attorney representing Wladimir Klitschko, a professional boxer fighting as a heavyweight. I am writing to respectfully request that your office conduct an investigation into the highly suspicious events surrounding Mr. Klitschko’s April 10, 2004 Las Vegas bout against Lamon Brewster, and the equally suspicious frustration of Mr. Klitschko’s subsequent efforts to ascertain whether or not he had been illicitly drugged or poisoned prior to or during the bout with Mr. Brewster.

As explained below, we are not leveling accusations against anyone in particular, and only seek an investigation to learn the truth and, if appropriate, punish the guilty. As evidenced by this week’s guilty plea in your District by Robert Mittelman to charges that he fixed fights and then unsuccessfully sought to bribe both a federal judge in your District and an Assistant United States Attorney in your Office, it is regrettably all too possible that someone sought to illegally influence the outcome of the Klitschko/Brewster bout. We believe that the facts of record to date more than justify a full investigation by your Office.

THE EVENTS PRIOR TO THE KLITSCHKO/BREWSTER BOUT

Before turning to what occurred during the bout, we first turn to a number of events that preceded the bout - events which, when viewed in connection with the events that followed, give off a strong odor of corruption.

First, as reported by Dean Juipe in the April 19, 2004 Las Vegas Sun, the odds on the bout posted by both Mandalay Bay and Pinnacle, leading offshore sports books, plummeted from 11-1 in Mr. Klitschko’s favor to just 3.5-1 by fight time. As Mr. Juipe pointed out, this “could only happen if there was a huge influx of money wagered on [Mr. Brewster.]” The question, of course, is why? To be sure, odds change in the days and hours before a fight, but experience shows that it is virtually unheard of for them to change so dramatically in such a short period of time.

Your investigation will reveal that Mr. Brewster was understandably a heavy underdog and that nothing in the public domain gave any cause for such a drastic change in the betting line. On the other hand, if a drugging of Mr. Klitschko was planned in advance, that fact would easily explain why there was so much “late money” bet on Mr. Brewster.

In this regard, it should be noted that identifying unusual changes in the odds has been an effective weapon in ferreting out the fixing of sporting events. As reported on March 31, 2002 by Edward Epstein of the San Francisco Chronicle: “The [gaming] industry also claims that Nevada casinos have tipped off the FBI to a few college basketball point-shaving scandals over the past several years by looking for unusual betting patterns on games.” Further, a key ground for the general consensus that the March 1999 draw in the Lennox Lewis/Evander Holyfield bout was the product of corrupt judging, was the fact that the odds on that fight went from 11-5 in Lewis’s favor to “pick ‘em” by the time of the fight. Of course, the swift change in the odds on the Klitschko/Brewster fight were far more dramatic and therefore much more indicative of foul play.

Second, there was a very suspicious incident concerning fight credentials. As you may know, certain credentials for a fight - such as the ones that give a person access to all areas of the arena on fight night - are highly prized and limited. For that reason and also, more importantly, because of security concerns, such credentials are released to an individual only if he or she is on a credentials list and he or she provides photo identification. Notwithstanding these procedures, when a member of the Klitschko team went to pick up his credential prior to the bout, he was told that it had already been picked up. When the team member asked for more information, it became clear that someone had picked up the credential by falsely claiming to be the team member. Given the requirement of photo identification, this error should not have been possible. Yet, it happened, thereby creating a situation where an unidentified person secured an all-access pass through fraud, thus providing himself unfettered access to the arena. While this scenario may seem outlandish, is it any more outlandish than Mr. Mittleman offering a judge and prosecutor in this District $15,000 to fix a case? Is it more outlandish that, in 1919, Arnold Rothstein bribed eight members of the Chicago White Sox so that they would throw the World Series?

In sum, before the Klitschko/Brewster bout even began, there were strong indications - in the form of extreme volatility in the betting line and fraud in the securing of an all-access credential - that some mischief was afoot. Those indications ripened with what transpired next.

THE KLITSCHKO/BREWSTER BOUT

As both Mr. Klitschko and his entire team, including Hall of Fame trainer Emmanuel Steward, will attest, Mr. Klitschko was in extraordinary physical condition for the bout. Indeed, according to Mr. Klitschko, he had never trained so well or come into a bout so well-conditioned. Significantly, he had never shown himself to be a fighter who lacked conditioning or stamina. Thus, what happened on April 10 is wholly inconsistent with Mr. Klitschko’s career. To be sure, he has been knocked out before, but never under circumstances such as those that prevailed on April 10. One need only review the tape of the bout in order to have serious concerns as to whether he was drugged or poisoned - especially in light of the events both before and after the bout.

Inexplicably, beginning in or about the second round, and prior to having been hit with any significant punches, Mr. Klitschko exhibited and experienced a rapid loss of energy, coherence and equilibrium. This fact was noted and is corroborated by the personal observations of his corner-men, who uniformly characterized his condition as something they had not seen previously in their long careers. They noted that he appeared to collapse during the bout, not from the effects of any blows, but rather from some other unknown cause. They also pointed out that Mr. Klitschko lacked the recuperative powers he had shown in all of his past fights, which he should have had in light of training and conditioning. These observations are consistent with publicly reported statements of Referee Robert Byrd, a very experienced official, who, in April 11, 2004's USA Today, stated: “I tried to get a response out of him but there was none. I've never stopped a fight like that." Similarly, in Mr. Juipe’s April 19, 2004 Las Vegas Sun article, an employee of the Palms Casino explained why there was no betting line available on the then-upcoming April 24, 2004 bout between Vitali Klitschko and Corrie Sanders: “It’s because the other Klitschko [Wladimir] looked like he was poisoned or something in the fight with Brewster.” (Emphasis supplied)

Further evidencing foul play is the fact that Mr. Klitschko's condition after the April 10 fight cannot be reconciled with the recuperative powers demonstrated after his defeat by Corrie Sanders in March 2003. Mr. Klitschko also lost the Sanders bout by knockout. A review of that fight shows that Mr. Klitschko was knocked out fair and square by Mr. Sanders’s very visible and powerful blows. Significantly, if one reviews the tapes of both the Sanders and the Brewster fights, it is clear that Mr. Klitschko was hit much harder by Mr. Sanders than by Mr. Brewster. Within the boxing community Mr. Sanders is widely considered one the hardest punchers, far more dangerous than Mr. Brewster. Yet, within minutes of being knocked out by Mr. Sanders, Mr. Klitschko participated in post-fight interviews, in which he coherently communicated in several different languages. In contrast, following the stoppage in Las Vegas on April 10, observers reported that, despite being conscious, Mr. Klitschko's pupils appeared dilated, he was unable to communicate and he was unable to lift his head to respond to inquiries made by the attending physicians. This condition lasted for some time. Mr. Klitschko has also confirmed that his head was completely clear after the Brewster fight was stopped; yet he could not speak or move his body with ease It is also important to note that Mr. Klitschko’s blood sugar level after the fight was 230 -- almost twice the normal level. Medical experts have confirmed to the Klitschko team that such an elevated count may well indicate that Mr. Klitschko was given a foreign substance.

In sum, the events that transpired at the actual bout also raise serious concerns about whether Mr. Klitschko’s performance was impeded by some hidden substance.

Farmboxer
03-31-2008, 02:20 AM
In sum, the events that transpired at the actual bout also raise serious concerns about whether Mr. Klitschko’s performance was impeded by some hidden substance.

THE FRUSTRATION OF MR. KLITSCHKO’S EFFORTS TO LEARN THE TRUTH

Following the bout, Mr. Klitschko expressed his strong view that he had been poisoned or drugged, or that he had some undetected medical condition. Mr. Klitschko’s team concurred in that assessment based upon Mr. Klitschko’s performance. At that time, no one on Mr. Klitschko’s team knew about the changes in the betting line.

Out of concern for Mr. Klitschko, he was taken to the University Medical Center of Southern Nevada (“UMC”) after the bout. At that time, blood and urine samples were taken from Mr. Klitschko.

On April 11, the next day, in order to ensure that he would have an opportunity to ascertain the truth, Mr. Klitschko arranged for additional blood and urine samples to be taken at Quest Diagnostics (“Quest’). Mr. Klitschko’s team made it emphatically clear that they wanted the blood and urine specimens preserved so that they could be tested by an independent doctor of Mr. Klitschko’s choosing.

On April 14, 2004, both UMC and Quest were sent appropriate medical authorizations, signed by Mr. Klitschko, requesting that his medical records, including his blood and urine specimens, be sent to noted physician, Dr. Robert Voy. Dr. Voy is a former physician for the Nevada State Athletic Commission and the former President of USA Boxing, the body that governs amateur and Olympic boxing in the United States. Further, over the next ten days, representatives of Mr. Klitschko left numerous messages at Quest and UMC reinforcing the requests for the blood and urine specimens.

Significantly, on information and belief, Quest has a policy of retaining blood and urine specimens for seven (7) days after testing, and UMC has a policy of retaining blood specimens for ten (10) days after testing. Hence, according to Quest and UMC policies, all of the blood and urine samples were in existence on April 14, when Quest and UMC received the medical authorization forms signed by Mr. Klitschko. Similarly, according to those same policies, the blood and urine should have been retained by Quest until April 18, and the blood should have been retained by UMC until April 20. As noted, during the period between April 14 and April 20, there were numerous communications between Mr. Klitschko’s representatives and both Quest and UMC requesting that the blood and urine specimens be preserved and sent to Dr. Voy.

Incredibly, though, all of the specimens, with the exception of one milliliter of urine (too small an amount to permit meaningful testing), had been destroyed by UMC and Quest. To date, no rational explanation has been presented for this failure to deliver the specimens which UMC and Quest had in their possession at the time Mr. Klitschko requested that they be transferred to Dr. Voy. Of course, there are a number of possible explanations, some innocent, for what occurred. However, one of those possible explanations - and an eminently reasonable one - is that those specimens were destroyed in order to hide the truth of what happened to Mr. Klitschko.

In this regard, we also note that, on April 26, 2004, Mr. Klitschko was given a complete physical examination by Dr. Stuart Friedman of Los Angeles, who is associated with Cedar Sinai Hospital. Mr. Klitschko was found to be in perfect health. Hence, if there was something physically wrong with Mr. Klitschko on April 10, it was not caused by any chronic condition.

CONCLUSION

I recognize that the issues raised here involve very serious implicit allegations. But they are allegations which, I respectfully submit, need to be investigated in order to protect the integrity of a sport that Mr. Klitschko and I love, and which is so commercially important to the State of Nevada. Something just does not smell right here, and the truth needs to come out.

Respectfully yours,
Judd Berstein

1lehudson
03-31-2008, 02:24 AM
Why is he lying about his income though?

"Floyd allegedly was paid $20,000,000 for participating in this pay-per-view exhibition, although some insiders estimate the actual number to be as low as $2 million plus incentives."

Same thing with Baldomir, he claimed to have gotten 8 mil when he only got 3.5.
Incentives are were you make the vast amount of the money in ppv...A percentage of the PPV...A percentage of the gate...IE floyd signed to fight Oscar for 10 mill, but he ended up with 25 mill.

Now im not saying that floyd is going to make anywere near 20 mill for this.....However 2 mill for a staged tussle..Are you fukking kidding me..PS you have no clue what floyd made vs Baldo...I just love the way sooo many guys act like they are sitting in on the fight signing or with the fighter when he breaks the check at the bank.

1lehudson
03-31-2008, 02:24 AM
In sum, the events that transpired at the actual bout also raise serious concerns about whether Mr. Klitschko’s performance was impeded by some hidden substance.

THE FRUSTRATION OF MR. KLITSCHKO’S EFFORTS TO LEARN THE TRUTH

Following the bout, Mr. Klitschko expressed his strong view that he had been poisoned or drugged, or that he had some undetected medical condition. Mr. Klitschko’s team concurred in that assessment based upon Mr. Klitschko’s performance. At that time, no one on Mr. Klitschko’s team knew about the changes in the betting line.

Out of concern for Mr. Klitschko, he was taken to the University Medical Center of Southern Nevada (“UMC”) after the bout. At that time, blood and urine samples were taken from Mr. Klitschko.

On April 11, the next day, in order to ensure that he would have an opportunity to ascertain the truth, Mr. Klitschko arranged for additional blood and urine samples to be taken at Quest Diagnostics (“Quest’). Mr. Klitschko’s team made it emphatically clear that they wanted the blood and urine specimens preserved so that they could be tested by an independent doctor of Mr. Klitschko’s choosing.

On April 14, 2004, both UMC and Quest were sent appropriate medical authorizations, signed by Mr. Klitschko, requesting that his medical records, including his blood and urine specimens, be sent to noted physician, Dr. Robert Voy. Dr. Voy is a former physician for the Nevada State Athletic Commission and the former President of USA Boxing, the body that governs amateur and Olympic boxing in the United States. Further, over the next ten days, representatives of Mr. Klitschko left numerous messages at Quest and UMC reinforcing the requests for the blood and urine specimens.

Significantly, on information and belief, Quest has a policy of retaining blood and urine specimens for seven (7) days after testing, and UMC has a policy of retaining blood specimens for ten (10) days after testing. Hence, according to Quest and UMC policies, all of the blood and urine samples were in existence on April 14, when Quest and UMC received the medical authorization forms signed by Mr. Klitschko. Similarly, according to those same policies, the blood and urine should have been retained by Quest until April 18, and the blood should have been retained by UMC until April 20. As noted, during the period between April 14 and April 20, there were numerous communications between Mr. Klitschko’s representatives and both Quest and UMC requesting that the blood and urine specimens be preserved and sent to Dr. Voy.

Incredibly, though, all of the specimens, with the exception of one milliliter of urine (too small an amount to permit meaningful testing), had been destroyed by UMC and Quest. To date, no rational explanation has been presented for this failure to deliver the specimens which UMC and Quest had in their possession at the time Mr. Klitschko requested that they be transferred to Dr. Voy. Of course, there are a number of possible explanations, some innocent, for what occurred. However, one of those possible explanations - and an eminently reasonable one - is that those specimens were destroyed in order to hide the truth of what happened to Mr. Klitschko.

In this regard, we also note that, on April 26, 2004, Mr. Klitschko was given a complete physical examination by Dr. Stuart Friedman of Los Angeles, who is associated with Cedar Sinai Hospital. Mr. Klitschko was found to be in perfect health. Hence, if there was something physically wrong with Mr. Klitschko on April 10, it was not caused by any chronic condition.

CONCLUSION

I recognize that the issues raised here involve very serious implicit allegations. But they are allegations which, I respectfully submit, need to be investigated in order to protect the integrity of a sport that Mr. Klitschko and I love, and which is so commercially important to the State of Nevada. Something just does not smell right here, and the truth needs to come out.

Respectfully yours,
Judd Berstein:patsch

Farmboxer
03-31-2008, 02:41 AM
Vlad is just fighting on and cleaning out the heavyweight division.

However, he almost died because of being drugged that night. Coverup was sad. MRI showed no concussion. Doctors were concerned about a diabetic coma. I wish the truth would come out, too late for Vlad, but it could protect future fighters.

Mark Ratner announced his retirement that night. All this info should be heard, but US Boxing media covered it up, except for a few who told the truth. It was a sad day for the ethics of boxing.

Cormega
03-31-2008, 03:19 AM
All you jokers ordered wrestlemania to see mayweather when you normally wouldnt have. This means the ploy worked for the WWE, and will probably be used again. Only in America can someone with barely a HS education get paid 20 million dollars to dance around a ring to a script.

I cant decide whats worse the WWE for setting it up, or all the fools for paying to see it."Barely a HS education" :lol: WTF does that have to do with anything?

hellblazer
03-31-2008, 06:55 AM
deym!!! Big Show was EXPOSED!! he's overrated anyway lol

Dorfmeister
03-31-2008, 08:05 AM
This makes "David and Goliath" look like a children's story... Breaks Show's nose, his jaw, knocks him out against all odds, 40-0, five division pro box champ,a dancer and an undefeated wrestler too... Forget about the WWE, it's the MME Era now, you gat to love him!

elTerrible
03-31-2008, 09:06 AM
:lol:

But it only applies when the guy that your backing loses right??

Dude get real. We all know King is a crook, and Wlad has never lost a fair fight. He was drugged and the FBI was going to investigate:yep

That crap is a joke....No one here thinks that this stuff is real....We all knew that Floyd was going to win, despite being 2 feet shorter and 300 pounds lighter. You not telling us ground breaking new here.

Sad that your hatered is so strong that you cant even take this for what it is...ENTERTAINMENT....HOWEVER it has some value for Floyd and boxing. What so many people like you dont understand is that Vince McMahon is a GENUIS when it comes to PPV. He does it better then anyone eles in the history of the World. If Floyd can get 10% of those people to tap into boxing, or even just his next fight it would be HUGE..WWE averages 500,000 buys for there ppv and they have one every month. Its nothing for thier big ones to due close to 2 million buys. Boxing PPV's cant match that

Settle down you not the smartest guy in the room and your not telling ANYONE something that they dont already know. Hell my 8 year old knows that WWE isnt real.



agreed fully on all points, except Don King


Don King really is a crooked piece of shit. He ripped off so many fighters, Ali, Tyson, Rahman...

He has murdered atleast 2 people back in the 50s over illegal gambling rings and had his sentence reduced to manslaughter and got out early, had his record exanorated by the governor of that state.

The guy gets away with all kinds of shit, he is truely a crooked human being.

Dude
03-31-2008, 09:07 AM
Mayweather should fight Wlad...mayweather TKO's Wlad in 1

ApatheticLeader
03-31-2008, 09:08 AM
I'm pretty sure that no-one ordered Wrestlemania because of PBF. They're all closet wrestling fans :yep

Heavyrighthand
03-31-2008, 10:13 AM
Big Show was exposed tonight.

:lol:

Illmatic
03-31-2008, 10:27 AM
Good win for Floyd, but he'd ducking the real challenges. The guy needs to fight The Undertaker.

:deal

Jazzo
03-31-2008, 10:32 AM
Big show clearly has a Grade A China Chin.

It will only be a matter of time until this Fraud is exposed again :nod

Drexl
03-31-2008, 01:02 PM
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It's still real to me dammit! :|


:lol:

Pimp C
03-31-2008, 01:06 PM
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It's still real to me dammit! :|


:lol:
:lol: :rofl

Drexl
03-31-2008, 01:08 PM
That video sums up my opinion of fans who take wrestling seriously.

JERMZ BOXING
03-31-2008, 01:18 PM
He's pretty leathel with that straight right. If he's got brass knucks on, you don't stand a chance.

r u serious...u think them brass knucks were real??? i cant believe were blogging about this....this is ridiculous...ok ok..he got paid, beats dancin with the stars....now lets forget he ever did this and push for a cotto vs. gayweather...mayweather...sorry...this is boxing:bbb .... yall must be smoking too much :rasta to think that wrestling is an important fuckin sport.....u think in real life, mayweather wouldnt look like this:dead
sorry for makin you:| ...but i gotta tell ya, WWE...(whispering) is fake :yep :yep :yep

janeschicken
03-31-2008, 01:23 PM
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It's still real to me dammit! :|


:lol:


I have a new favorite youtube. Thanks for that.

Tencount85
03-31-2008, 01:29 PM
the guy in that video, LOSER

Robbi
03-31-2008, 01:55 PM
I'll need to find out when the repeat is here in the UK. Wrestling ain't in the same class as boxing. It's good entertainment though.

BigReg
03-31-2008, 02:04 PM
r u serious...u think them brass knucks were real??? i cant believe were blogging about this....this is ridiculous...ok ok..he got paid, beats dancin with the stars....now lets forget he ever did this and push for a cotto vs. gayweather...mayweather...sorry...this is boxing:bbb .... yall must be smoking too much :rasta to think that wrestling is an important fuckin sport.....u think in real life, mayweather wouldnt look like this:dead
sorry for makin you:| ...but i gotta tell ya, WWE...(whispering) is fake :yep :yep :yep

Good work Columbo. Maybe next you'll solve the case of whether or not the Easter Bunny is real. :good

Roper
03-31-2008, 03:08 PM
I actually remember when i was around 7year old in the early 90's and actually believed the ultimate warrior had a curse put on him by papa shango...Shit i was a sad kid .lol

:rofl Me too. I believed that El Gigante put chloroform (sp)? on the undertaker but somehow he managed to come back to the ring and take care of business.

Brian123
03-31-2008, 03:21 PM
It's about as real as his fighting good opponents!

lillarry
03-31-2008, 03:59 PM
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It's still real to me dammit! :|


:lol:

My god, thats the funniest shit Ive seen on youtube:rofl

Check out the longer version

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jecxbox
03-31-2008, 04:03 PM
bigshow was overrated all along.

Drexl
03-31-2008, 06:16 PM
the guy in that video, LOSER

The guy in that video = ALL WRESTLING FANS

boxingcar
03-31-2008, 06:27 PM
the size / force difference was stunning ...seeing this big guy grab mayweather's neck and lifting him up like he was nothing...thankfully all of this was staged....funny shit though.

Vaile
03-31-2008, 06:49 PM
The guy in that video = ALL WRESTLING FANS


That is priceless.