TSZYU vs MAYWEATHER

[tills9191]

OK THIS IS THE DEAL
Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr.

Had they met when Kostya was at his prime, I'd say say Kostya would have knocked mayweather out, just like he did with Zab Judah.

Floyd had trouble knocking Zab out, yet Kostya disposed of him in under 2 rounds..

Kostya has way too much power and accuray.
Floyd likes fighting on the outside, which is Kostya's specialty.
Mayweather would have been on the canvas by way of Kostya's accuracy and timing...:good

[achillesthegreat]

Mayweather UD. Floyd won't run and he'll read the right all night.

[Mook]

KT picked his shots exceptionally well and I think he could get through on PBF. very close fight.

[dangerousity]

Mayweather UD. Floyd won't run and he'll read the right all night.

Mayweather UD. Floyd WILL run from that right all night long.

I wouldnt count out a Kostya KO at all. Kostya is very deceiving, just when a boxer think they have him figured out, timing, distance Kostya can throw punches really fast if he wants to and time it perfectly.

[Butterfly^Soul]

Mayweather by UD...Kostya has problems with boxers...

[David B]

Kostya could knock Floyd out,see what Corley did to him.
i would say this is a 50-50 fight.

[Thread Stealer]

I think it would be a tough close fight. Tszyu has been pretty good at dealing with quick fighters (although they are sometimes lefties) and timing them. He was an intelligent fighter with a good sense of range and timing. He had that accurate right hand, a nice jab, and at his peak, pretty good hand speed.

Floyd, as we all know, is a very intelligent fighter, with terrific speed of both foot and hand. Tszyu didn't move his head enough, and I think Floyd would exploit this with his straight right hand a lot, along with his jab (which is sometimes underused, but a very good jab).

Floyd by decision, 7-5, 8-4 type of fight.

[Stinky gloves]

Tszyu by double chicken dance.

[fatdrunkenslob]

Mayweather by UD...Kostya has problems with boxers...

I think you mean to say Kostya had problems with pressure fighters because Tszyu ate boxers for breakfast. Tszyu would KO Floyd once he found his range and timing.

[Butterfly^Soul]

Watch Kostya's fights with Judah and Mitchell then re-post...

I've seen them,thanks though!You watch his first fight with Mitchell,his fight with Leija,his fight with phillips,and the first round with Judah then get back to me.

[Butterfly^Soul]

I think you mean to say Kostya had problems with pressure fighters because Tszyu ate boxers for breakfast. Tszyu would KO Floyd once he found his range and timing.

Besides the Judah fight,and the second Mitchell fight,what boxers did he eat for breakfast?

[myk]

PBF by UD

[Executioner]

Mayweather by UD...Kostya has problems with boxers...

:huh

where do you get this from? Tszyu killed boxers. Judah, Mitchell, Rodriguez, Hurtado were all chopped down.

Tszyu's timing and accuracy is unheard of. Tszyu catches Floyd with a sledgehammer right hand and knocks Floyd out.

[Butterfly^Soul]

:huh

where do you get this from? Tszyu killed boxers. Judah, Mitchell, Rodriguez, Hurtado were all chopped down.

Tszyu's timing and accuracy is unheard of. Tszyu catches Floyd with a sledgehammer right hand and knocks Floyd out.

Im certaintly no expert on Tszyu...I was just going on what I seen in his fights with Mitchell(1st one),Leija,and the first round of the Judah fight.But since so many are disagreeing with me here,apparently I may have been strecthing a bit.You guys seem to have done your homework.My bad!

[tills9191]

KT has too much power in his right hand.. its just a matter of time before he catches Floyd with it..don't think he can take KT's punch...

[Scorpion]

Prime Kostya would win.

[Daruf]

I still think KT has the perfect style to beat PBF .. there wasnt anybody with his uncanny ability to time that laser guided right hand that would knock somebody out cold.

The only type of fighter that KT has problems with are roughousing pressure fighters... Mayweather doesnt fit that bill.

That said it will still be a hard fight to predict.

[achillesthegreat]

Mayweather UD. Floyd WILL run from that right all night long.

I wouldnt count out a Kostya KO at all. Kostya is very deceiving, just when a boxer think they have him figured out, timing, distance Kostya can throw punches really fast if he wants to and time it perfectly.
Floyd isn't a runner and he is too skilled defensively for running to be his main defence against a right hand.

You can't count a Kostya ko out but I think Floyds chin will stand up to it. He'll need to land more than few to get the desired effect.

[achillesthegreat]

Floyd WON'T run? What the fuck are you smoking man? Have you ever seen one of Floyd's fights?
The question is have you?

[uppa kut]

Tszyu would crack his egg chin and make him do the chicken dance!

[Alo2006]

Watch Kostya's fights with Judah and Mitchell then re-post...

Neither fighters can compare to Floyd. Floyd whopped both of their ass anyway. Tszyu is no match for Floyd, prime or now :yep

[Alo2006]

OK THIS IS THE DEAL
Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr.

Had they met when Kostya was at his prime, I'd say say Kostya would have knocked mayweather out, just like he did with Zab Judah.

Floyd had trouble knocking Zab out, yet Kostya disposed of him in under 2 rounds..

Kostya has way too much power and accuray.
Floyd likes fighting on the outside, which is Kostya's specialty.
Mayweather would have been on the canvas by way of Kostya's accuracy and timing...:good

Zab rocked Kostya 2 or 3 times in the first round. Imagine what Floyd would do. Floyd would have countered him all night. If Zab would have stayed aggressive like the first round, he could have possibly one the fight, but we know Zab is a strong starter, but can't finish.

[jimmie]

Theres alot of talk about Kostya destroying 2 slick and fast fighters in Judah and Sharmba Mitchell but those guys where southpaws and it made it alot easier for Kostya Tszyu to land his massive straight right hand on them. Floyds alot smarter and skilled then Judah and Mitchell and thats a proven fact he would take away Tszyus straight right just like he took away Oscars lefthook. KT would have his moments but Floyds win 8-4 UD. KT has been in exactly 2 tough fights in his career one where he was brutally knocked out by Vince Phillips and the other when Hatton made him quit with only a round left in a close bout.

[jimmie]

Tszyu would crack his egg chin and make him do the chicken dance!

Yeah real eggs chins fight huge punches Castillo twice,Judah,Gatti,Corrales,De la Hoya for a combined 64 rounds and only go down once :patsch

[Alo2006]

Well said ^^

[Executioner]

Zab rocked Kostya 2 or 3 times in the first round. Imagine what Floyd would do. Floyd would have countered him all night. If Zab would have stayed aggressive like the first round, he could have possibly one the fight, but we know Zab is a strong starter, but can't finish.

That doesn't make any sense at all because Zab is a far harder puncher than Floyd.

[aliwasthegreatest]

kostya gets a little overrated by some here. underrated by others. his right was very very accurate. but he was best with it against slick SOUTHPAWS, who kinda walk right into it anyway. very good fighter but i don't think he takes a defensive genious like floyd. pbf keeps that right completely worthless almost all night.

[Arthur]

man it really is unfortunate that Tzyu is being so underrated by some people. I think it is because a lot of people who became fans of boxing in the last couple of years missed his best fights.
Trust me Tzyu was an animal in his prime. I bet on Mayweather every time he fights because it is easy money...but against tzyu i would bet against him.
Tzyu had such pinpoint accuracy with that right hand, and despite what someone else said earlier it was boxers who had trouble with Tzyu not the other way around.

[Alo2006]

That doesn't make any sense at all because Zab is a far harder puncher than Floyd.

Yeah a bigger puncher, but I was talking about Floyd landing punches on Tszyu easily.

[Executioner]

Yeah a bigger puncher, but I was talking about Floyd landing punches on Tszyu easily.

Right. I thought for a second you were implying that if Zab rocked Tszyu than Floyd would do worse damage.

[Silver]

OK THIS IS THE DEAL
Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr.

Had they met when Kostya was at his prime, I'd say say Kostya would have knocked mayweather out, just like he did with Zab Judah.

Floyd had trouble knocking Zab out, yet Kostya disposed of him in under 2 rounds..

Kostya has way too much power and accuray.
Floyd likes fighting on the outside, which is Kostya's specialty.
Mayweather would have been on the canvas by way of Kostya's accuracy and timing...:goodso? what is your point? tszyu also got koed by vince phillips. how many of you think mayweather would get koed by phillips. just becasue tszyu looked better vs. judah dosent mean he automatically beats mayweather. and its alot more likely of koysta tszyu beating mayweather by decision. mayweather dosent take enough chances to get koed and he has taken shots when has had to. took some shots in his last vs. a guy a whole wieght division bigger then him.

[fatdrunkenslob]

Yeah a bigger puncher, but I was talking about Floyd landing punches on Tszyu easily.
I doubt Floyd would even attempt to throw more than 30 punches a round against a dangerous opponent like Tszyu for fear of getting countered. Tszyu is a very underrated boxer and had exceptional accuracy. He's never been outboxed in any of his fights. His losses came from trying to out-brawl the brawlers instead of boxing them. PBF would no doubt move in and out attempting to pot-shot while Kostya stalks him to land the big right.

[errsta]

It's too easy to say this is a cut and dry boxer vs. puncher matchup, but Tszyu was far from a one dimensional slugger. His amateur record speaks for itself and is a testament to how well schooled he is.

That being said, Mayweather hasn't done anything to show me he would beat Tszyu.

Running won't work - Tszyu cuts off the ring too well.
Boxing and/or Potshotting won't work - Tszyu's timing was uncanny against speedy fighters.
Trading definitely won't work.

Tszyu's achilles heel was elite high pressure fighters. That's not Floyd's game. Styles make fights, and I would comfortably pick Tszyu to take this one.

[Kostya Zoo]

It's too easy to say this is a cut and dry boxer vs. puncher matchup, but Tszyu was far from a one dimensional slugger. His amateur record speaks for itself and is a testament to how well schooled he is.

That being said, Mayweather hasn't done anything to show me he would beat Tszyu.

Running won't work - Tszyu cuts off the ring too well.
Boxing and/or Potshotting won't work - Tszyu's timing was uncanny against speedy fighters.
Trading definitely won't work.

Tszyu's achilles heel was elite high pressure fighters. That's not Floyd's game. Styles make fights, and I would comfortably pick Tszyu to take this one.

Couldn't have said it better myself :good

[Tettsuo]

Floyd by easy UD.

Tszyu is grossly overrated in this forum.

And all this talk about Floyd potshotting only and always running is totally unfounded.

[jc]

i gotta go with Mayweather in that 2 rounds before Zab got spanked, he was out speeding Tszyu. i think Mayweather could well do the same 9hed have to get on his bike) and i also feel Mayweather is more of a defensive wizard tha. judah and wouldbt get caught by something too serious.

floyd on pts.

[Danny Ocean]

KT' is overated imo

mayweather close decision fighting the best 140lber 3divisions above were he started

[SugarRay]

I think Tszyu takes this one.

Bad style for Mayweather as seen in his fight with castillo. Tszyu punches harder and more accurately.

I can't recall Tszyu being outboxed by any of his opponents but, the only 2 times we couldn't beat the count were against pressure fighters in Phillips and Hatton. Mayweather is more of a boxer than a pressure fighter.

If I can remember correctly, Mayweather's team didn't want to fight Tszyu earlier in his career as they thought Mayweather was not ready. This suggests that Mayweather team did not have the confidence to beat Tszyu.

The Tszyu who beat Judah was slower than the Tszyu who fought Rodriguez, Hurdato, Gonzalez, and the like.

[Kostya Zoo]

i gotta go with Mayweather in that 2 rounds before Zab got spanked, he was out speeding Tszyu.

Zab won the first round and was clearly losing the second before lights out zab.

[PorkChopExpress]

Just as in the other thread about Tszyu Mosley... anything could happen in this fight. It could go either way... Mayweather would have to work slightly harder trying to avoid Tszyu though. No doubt Floyd could do it if he was at his best, but NEVER write off the chances of Tszyu connecting accurately and often if he is allowed to fight from a distance.

[deram]

if not for Judah's notoriously bad stamina he would have had a good chance at beating Floyd. In those first rounds it was even or maybe even a little lead to Judah. However, when Judah was the strongest ( in the first half) he got KTFO by Kostya.

I think it would end with Kostya KO 7 out of 10 fights.

[Axe]

Prime for prime this would have been a true 50/50 fight. I'd put my money on Tszyu, but this would be a toss-up to me.

Floyd could box Tszyu to a close decision, Tszyu could box Floyd to a close decision, or Tszyu could knock Floyd out.

Out of ten, I'd say they win 5 each, but KT is the only one who would be getting a knockout in this matchup.

[A-50]

Didn't Tszyu brutalize Unca Roger? I would make this an even fight Prime for Prime.

[Archie_Moore]

KT' is overated imo

mayweather close decision fighting the best 140lber 3divisions above were he started

Tszyu is not the one overrated on this forum. You need to look at the guy in your avatar for that answer.

:good A guy who says he's the best EVER, but doesn't go after the tough fights....

[Pimp C]

People are forgetting that PBF at 140 is a whole different fighter than the one at 147 or 154. He could stand in the pocket with, stick and move or whatever he choose to do against Zoo, he had good pop there as well. Zoo is very overrated here on ESB and PBF is better than him in every department except power. PBF by UD he's too much of a complete fighter at 140 for Zoo to deal with.:deal

[Pimp C]

Floyd WON'T run? What the fuck are you smoking man? Have you ever seen one of Floyd's fights?
Typical stupid BS from you. The question is have you seen any PBF fights? Corley, Gatti, Chavez, Chico, G Hernandez, Ndou, Augustus or Zab just to name a few?:hi:

[Pimp C]

KT has too much power in his right hand.. its just a matter of time before he catches Floyd with it..don't think he can take KT's punch...
The funny thing about is that the same people said the same shit about Chico at 130, Ndou at 135, Gatti at 140, Zab at 147 and Oscar at 154, if they catch him PBF is going to sleep But you know what that magical punch never appeared. You know why because PBF is hard as fuck to hit clean and if he does get hit he has shown the chin to take ita dn against Zoo it would be no different. Ask the people who said Oscar was going to KO PBF with his left hook.:yep

[Scar]

Can't pick here, could go either way.

[Archie_Moore]

People are forgetting that PBF at 140 is a whole different fighter than the one at 147 or 154. He could stand in the pocket with, stick and move or whatever he choose to do against Zoo, he had good pop there as well. Zoo is very overrated here on ESB and PBF is better than him in every department except power. PBF by UD he's too much of a complete fighter at 140 for Zoo to deal with.:deal

Yea Mayweather faced extreme opposition like Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles and Gatti at 140. :patsch

[Pimp C]

Yea Mayweather faced extreme opposition like Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles and Gatti at 140. :patsch
It doesn't matter who he faced it's not like Zoo's comp there was so much better with the likes of Zab and Mitchell being his best wins. 140 is a better weight class for PBF he beats Zoo there.

[Archie_Moore]

It doesn't matter who he faced it's not like Zoo's comp there was so much better with the likes of Zab and Mitchell being his best wins. 140 is a better weight class for PBF he beats Zoo there.

Tszyu's comp was more certainly better then Floyd at 140. Just look at it for Gods sake. :good

Was beating fighters when they were at their best, and more times then not undefeated. :good

[Pimp C]

Tszyu's comp was more certainly better then Floyd at 140. Just look at it for Gods sake. :good

Was beating fighters when they were at their best, and more times then not undefeated. :good
Yeah it's better but only because he spent his whole career there.:good

[Archie_Moore]

Yeah it's better but only because he spent his whole career there.:good

Floyd's opposition in general isn't better then Tszyu's.

[tills9191]

Floyd was handpicking his opponents, yet Kostya always sought a challenge, and didn't back away from any1..he loves a challenge, unlike Mayweather, for god's sake, he lost his fight against castill in the 1st fight, and he even knew it.. he sounded perplexed when Larry Merchant was interviewing him, and Castillo's expression said it all.. and for your information KT has more accuracy and timing than any other fighter Floyd has faced..he takes his time, and doesn't just brawl...bye bye Floyd..

[champ1]

Floyd by wide UD,
It would be a nervy fight, with every one waiting for KT's right to land but it never does, floyd puts his stamp on the fight in the championship rounds!

[BoppaZoo]

I'd pick Tszyu why ive watched Tszyu all of his career. and he has never lost once to a defensive slick fighter.

and some are saying why didnt he lose to any slicksters and ill tell you. he was far to accurate and as soon as he caught them with a power shot they would run.

Ive seen it his whole career and another reason he does so well because he was probably the second best counter puncher in the world of boxing only behind Berrara and we all know what MAB and his counter punching did to the faster more skillful Hamed.

Tszyu's style is suited perfect for PBF or Whitaker type guys no matter which way you look at it his record says that.
thats why he was avoided by most of the faster type guys and ive not heard PBF say one bad thing towards Tszyu at all in his entire career the only thing i heard him say is he wouldnt fight him until he was the same age as Roger, so by PBF saying that he didnt want to fight Zoo at all and was waiting untill his was 37.

What sort of a P4P guy says that ive never heard Tszyu say oh we cant fight yet his not older enough.

In Tszyu's career he has only struggled against guys that where physical stronger and couldnt be stalked by Tszyu in the ring. Phillips beat Tszyu because Phillips was a huge guy at welterweight let alone 140. and Hatton won because of the same reason he couldnt be pushed backwards by Tszyu.

9 times out of 10 i would pick Tszyu to catch Mayweather with counter punch's and that accurate right hand that never missed. but maybe 1 time out of 10 PBF would aviod the right and win a close decision.

to those that say Tszyu couldnt outbox a guy like PBF well i say he did his whole career and he never once lost to a guy with PBF style.
and what most PBF fans or fans in general seem to forget although PBF's record is great he has never faced anyone like Tszyu. the only man that is close to Tszyu is Barrera.

Styles make fights not records and Tszyu's style is perfect just watch Judah got owned and so would PBF. he wouldnt be able to avoid the right hand for 12 rounds. and Roger knew this why do you think PBF wanted no part of Tszyu until he was 37.

Tszyu TKO 7

[MSTR]

What a lot of people on here forget is that KT was a very clever boxer, who could counter punch and use his superior timing on faster fighters. He predicted what they were going to do, and he had a great work rate.

Againt Floyd he would really rough him up and fight hard. He would slow Mayweather down with that left that he likes to hold out and look to measure him for the right.

Mayweather would most probably be able to land that lead right quite effectively though. I think whoever could establish a good hard jab would have a chance of winning the fight. If Mayweather went to defensive he could get himself into trouble, as KT doesn't waste shots and wouldn't give him too much opportunity to counter punch as he would like

Very close fight. Would have loved to have seen this even with KT at35 before he fought Hatton. Would have been a fantastic fight, and would have established whoever won as an ATG, when included with their other victories.

[China_hand_Joe]

What a lot of people on here forget is that KT was a very clever boxer, who could counter punch and use his superior timing on faster fighters. He predicted what they were going to do, and he had a great work rate.

Againt Floyd he would really rough him up and fight hard. He would slow Mayweather down with that left that he likes to hold out and look to measure him for the right.

Mayweather would most probably be able to land that lead right quite effectively though. I think whoever could establish a good hard jab would have a chance of winning the fight. If Mayweather went to defensive he could get himself into trouble, as KT doesn't waste shots and wouldn't give him too much opportunity to counter punch as he would like

Very close fight. Would have loved to have seen this even with KT at35 before he fought Hatton. Would have been a fantastic fight, and would have established whoever won as an ATG, when included with their other victories.

Solid post. I agree with pretty much all of it.

[PorkChopExpress]

What a lot of people on here forget is that KT was a very clever boxer, who could counter punch and use his superior timing on faster fighters. He predicted what they were going to do, and he had a great work rate.

Againt Floyd he would really rough him up and fight hard. He would slow Mayweather down with that left that he likes to hold out and look to measure him for the right.

Mayweather would most probably be able to land that lead right quite effectively though. I think whoever could establish a good hard jab would have a chance of winning the fight. If Mayweather went to defensive he could get himself into trouble, as KT doesn't waste shots and wouldn't give him too much opportunity to counter punch as he would like

Very close fight. Would have loved to have seen this even with KT at35 before he fought Hatton. Would have been a fantastic fight, and would have established whoever won as an ATG, when included with their other victories.

Top post!

[champ1]

Rubbish post……you lot on here really hate Floyd don’t ya ……you all would love to see him get knocked out…..first it was Castillo beat him in the first match (wrong) and Castillo will win (damn!! how wrong )
I remember the posts b4 the Judah fight when everyone was dreaming that zab would out speed him and then the De la hoya fight when everyone was dreaming that Oscar lands that left hook:patsch.
Now everyone is dreaming a one dimensional fighter like KT would win the best part of 12 rounds (no KT doesn't stop him, as KT wont land flush all night) against PBF!

Boring Boring!!!

[BoppaZoo]

Rubbish post……you lot on here really hate Floyd don’t ya ……you all would love to see him get knocked out…..first it was Castillo beat him in the first match (wrong) and Castillo will win (damn!! how wrong )
I remember the posts b4 the Judah fight when everyone was dreaming that zab would out speed him and then the De la hoya fight when everyone was dreaming that Oscar lands that left hook:patsch.
Now everyone is dreaming a one dimensional fighter like KT would win the best part of 12 rounds (no KT doesn't stop him, as KT wont land flush all night) against PBF!

Boring Boring!!!heres another case of the so called boxing fans calling Tszyu one dimensional when he outboxed 259 opponents as an amatuer. He is far from one dimensional.

by you posting this you summed up all your boxing knowledge in this post.:yep

[acb]

Floyd beats Tszyu, too smart, too discipined and too well versed in ring generalship. Cant let my hate for Floyd get in the way of what I think would be a good fight, but a clear decision for Floyd.

[Arthur]

heres another case of the so called boxing fans calling Tszyu one dimensional when he outboxed 259 opponents as an amatuer. He is far from one dimensional.

by you posting this you summed up all your boxing knowledge in this post.:yep

exactly!

[Alo2006]

It's too easy to say this is a cut and dry boxer vs. puncher matchup, but Tszyu was far from a one dimensional slugger. His amateur record speaks for itself and is a testament to how well schooled he is.

That being said, Mayweather hasn't done anything to show me he would beat Tszyu.

Running won't work - Tszyu cuts off the ring too well.
Boxing and/or Potshotting won't work - Tszyu's timing was uncanny against speedy fighters.
Trading definitely won't work.

Tszyu's achilles heel was elite high pressure fighters. That's not Floyd's game. Styles make fights, and I would comfortably pick Tszyu to take this one.

Good points made here, but notice all the speedy fighters he beat lacked defense. None of those fighters skills can match up with Floyd's skills.

[sonny73]

Mayweather only dominated quality opposition at 135 and below.Tszyu done the same thing at 140 so in most cases you would think the bigger guy would win if they are both at peak physical condition and both high quality rounded fighters.At 140 Tszyu was always regarded as the better guy,the only reason Mayweather was around the same place on the Ring P4P list was becasue he done it in multiple weights all below 140.

[champ1]

259 cunts!

[PorkChopExpress]

Rubbish post……you lot on here really hate Floyd don’t ya ……you all would love to see him get knocked out…..first it was Castillo beat him in the first match (wrong) and Castillo will win (damn!! how wrong )
I remember the posts b4 the Judah fight when everyone was dreaming that zab would out speed him and then the De la hoya fight when everyone was dreaming that Oscar lands that left hook:patsch.
Now everyone is dreaming a one dimensional fighter like KT would win the best part of 12 rounds (no KT doesn't stop him, as KT wont land flush all night) against PBF!

Boring Boring!!!

If all you can see in an analytical post of a potential fight is guys hating on someone cuz they say it's a close fight and can go either way then you need to remove the person who's being 'hated' on's balls from your mouth and speak something worth my time reading. Fuck off alias boy and come back when you got something knowledgable to say.

[cuchulain]

Prime for prime, this fight would probably result in a UD in favour of Mayweather, about 116-112. He has a the advantages of speed and skill.

However, there would be a very good chance (35-45 %) that Tzsyu would KO Mayweather in the first 6 rounds.

He has the advantages in timing and power and that might be enough to do it.

A risky fight for Floyd.

[BoxingGuru]

As painful as it is to say this, Floyd will run the whole fucking night just like against DLH. He'll pick a few shots per round then just get the fuck out of dodge.

That being said, he would NEVER fight someone lke Tszyu or Hatton, who both could beat him in their primes.

[MSTR]

If all you can see in an analytical post of a potential fight is guys hating on someone cuz they say it's a close fight and can go either way then you need to remove the person who's being 'hated' on's balls from your mouth and speak something worth my time reading. Fuck off alias boy and come back when you got something knowledgable to say.
Is it just me, or do 99% of all newbies appear to be dumb as f*ck. We seriously need to have some form of IQ test before they can use the site. Spelling your own name correctly and reciting the alphabet to gain entry would probably reduce stupid newbie posts by at least 50-70%.

[Lar Janus]

From the opening bell, PBF goes into survival mode (a la the DLH fight), runs around the ring, periodically goes to the ropes while holding his hands up, KT lands 'ineffective' punches to the body, PBF pitty-pats into KT's gloves, HBO announcers snow in their pants, over PBF's 'defensive mastery', KT lands an occasional clean punch to PBF's head--though not enough to kd or ko him--PBF lands a couple of good/clean flurries, that do nothing to KT, PBF finishes the fight upright, crowd boos throughout, little action to judge, KT is the clear aggressor, PBF clearly on the defensive all night, PBF seems to be the more marked-up of the two, Harold Lederman, Jim Grey, and Max Kellerman end up scoring fight 118-112 for PBF, say, "KT put up a spirited effort, but PBF's defensive genius was just too much!"

PBF wins a close, split decision--AGAIN. KT retires, in disgust. PBF nuthuggers say everyone else just doesn't appreciate 'true' boxing, and that only 'real' fans, like themselves, realize that landing punches isn't as important as not getting kd'd or ko'd.

Cory Spinks puts on the same type of performance, a week later, against [fill in blank], and loses HIS fight.

[PorkChopExpress]

Is it just me, or do 99% of all newbies appear to be dumb as f*ck. We seriously need to have some form of IQ test before they can use the site. Spelling your own name correctly and reciting the alphabet to gain entry would probably reduce stupid newbie posts by at least 50-70%.

There's just an influx of them. In the Aussie forum too... is it seasonal or something? I can't think for the life of me why someone would go to the hassle of joining the forum having previously never commented in it and trying to antagonise people for the sake of it with out any particular reason...

Makes me think that they actually are aliases of established posters who are trying to get reactions or say things they don't want their established name to be caught saying...

[PorkChopExpress]

From the opening bell, PBF goes into survival mode (a la the DLH fight), runs around the ring, periodically goes to the ropes while holding his hands up, KT lands 'ineffective' punches to the body, PBF pitty-pats into KT's gloves, HBO announcers snow in their pants, over PBF's 'defensive mastery', KT lands an occasional clean punch to PBF's head--though not enough to kd or ko him--PBF lands a couple of good/clean flurries, that do nothing to KT, PBF finishes the fight upright, crowd boos throughout, little action to judge, KT is the clear aggressor, PBF clearly on the defensive all night, PBF seems to be the more marked-up of the two, Harold Lederman, Jim Grey, and Max Kellerman end up scoring fight 118-112 for PBF, say, "KT put up a spirited effort, but PBF's defensive genius was just too much!"

PBF wins a close, split decision--AGAIN. KT retires, in disgust. PBF nuthuggers say everyone else just doesn't appreciate 'true' boxing, and that only 'real' fans, like themselves, realize that landing punches isn't as important as not getting kd'd or ko'd.

Cory Spinks puts on the same type of performance, a week later, against [fill in blank], and loses HIS fight.

Except can you name me 1 fight where KT was up against a distance/defensive fighter like PBF and he throws/lands or misses 'ineffective' punches? Yes PBF is a step above the rest... but when it comes to landing meaningful shots and timing, so is Tszyu.

[MSTR]

There's just an influx of them. In the Aussie forum too... is it seasonal or something? I can't think for the life of me why someone would go to the hassle of joining the forum having previously never commented in it and trying to antagonise people for the sake of it with out any particular reason...

Makes me think that they actually are aliases of established posters who are trying to get reactions or say things they don't want their established name to be caught saying...
It is sus as the all the new ones in the Aus forum come in with Mundine avatars or mundine associated words in their usernames. I definitely think it is one or two people just reinventing themselves and then getting banned again. Like you said who would bother. What a waste of time.

[Lar Janus]

Except can you name me 1 fight where KT was up against a distance/defensive fighter like PBF and he throws/lands or misses 'ineffective' punches? Yes PBF is a step above the rest... but when it comes to landing meaningful shots and timing, so is Tszyu.

I was being, more or less, sarcastic, in my post.

I've just gotten--over the years--the nagging feeling, about PBF (due to him being so built-up by the boxing establishment), that if he finishes ANY fight, upright, he's gonna get the "W". That's what I'm basing my 'prediction' on! I DO think a prime PBF has the survival ability to avoid being ko'd by pretty much ANYONE, if thats what he'd got his mind set on.

Very seldom have I seen someone do as little (esp. in a title fight) as PBF did against DLH, and get a win. DLH, actually, did less in his 'win' over Sturm, and SR Leonard's 'win' over Hagler may surpass it, but it was as ridiculous as I'd seen, in a while.

[Jinx]

Tszyu was the biggest threat to PBF and i wish that fight had happened...the Tszyu that fought Hatton wasn't on the way down, he just fought the wrong fight in the wrong place(Hatton's backyard)...even that Tszyu would've given PBF hell in the ring, and possibly beat him if he landed one of those powerful right hands...everything Tszyu throws is with power, so one mistake and he would get you out of there...Tszyu did well with slick/mover types because most of them move with a pattern, and Tszyu would eventually time that pattern and stop them...

but the problem for Tszyu is that PBF moves with no pattern and is one of the most disciplined fighters ever, so Tszyu landing the big shot would be very difficult to do against a super speedy PBF at 140...i think PBF would've been on his bike against Tszyu, darting in-and-out with righthand potshots while Tszyu trys to walk him down...PBF would win the decision handily if Tszyu doesn't use his jab, but he does use it PBF is in for a long night...

[thesandman]

I was being, more or less, sarcastic, in my post.

I've just gotten--over the years--the nagging feeling, about PBF (due to him being so built-up by the boxing establishment), that if he finishes ANY fight, upright, he's gonna get the "W". That's what I'm basing my 'prediction' on! I DO think a prime PBF has the survival ability to avoid being ko'd by pretty much ANYONE, if thats what he'd got his mind set on.

Very seldom have I seen someone do as little (esp. in a title fight) as PBF did against DLH, and get a win. DLH, actually, did less in his 'win' over Sturm, and SR Leonard's 'win' over Hagler may surpass it, but it was as ridiculous as I'd seen, in a while.

So have I. And he's easily good enough to finish most fights upright, and land enough pitty pat punches to the gloves for judges to give him the rounds.

Couldn't agree more with you.

[PorkChopExpress]

I was being, more or less, sarcastic, in my post.

I've just gotten--over the years--the nagging feeling, about PBF (due to him being so built-up by the boxing establishment), that if he finishes ANY fight, upright, he's gonna get the "W". That's what I'm basing my 'prediction' on! I DO think a prime PBF has the survival ability to avoid being ko'd by pretty much ANYONE, if thats what he'd got his mind set on.

Very seldom have I seen someone do as little (esp. in a title fight) as PBF did against DLH, and get a win. DLH, actually, did less in his 'win' over Sturm, and SR Leonard's 'win' over Hagler may surpass it, but it was as ridiculous as I'd seen, in a while.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from and do agree... just think Tszyu brings enough to the table to change that about PBF. The only guys who have been able to do that to Tszyu are high pressure mawlers... it's a big "what if!?" with this potential match up... it's such a damn shame it never happened!

[Koa]

ODLH couldn't floor Mayweather or catch him, so wheres the logic? Judah is the best non shot fighter Tszyu ever fought, beating him doesn't say a whole lot anymore. IMO Tszyu is THE most over-rated fighter on these boards. Its rediculous.

[TamaTonga]

with prime kostya i see Floyd run around allnight should be a awsome fight very very close fight:smoke

[Grinder]

Mayweather by UD...Kostya has problems with boxers...

Bullshit, he only lost twice as a pro to bangers.

[Grinder]

This fight is still a possibility. If KT trains and there is enough money in it for that greedy little PBF, it is on.

KT has a good puncher's chance.

[champ1]

KT doesn’t win more than 3 rounds against floyd, he landed his fair share against hatton b4 he went and quit on his stool! Imagine how he feels after getting picked apart by pbf whilst chasing him around for 10 rounds.

[PorkChopExpress]

KT doesn’t win more than 3 rounds against floyd, he landed his fair share against hatton b4 he went and quit on his stool! Imagine how he feels after getting picked apart by pbf whilst chasing him around for 10 rounds.

Styles... fights... Make.

[MSTR]

KT doesn’t win more than 3 rounds against floyd, he landed his fair share against hatton b4 he went and quit on his stool! Imagine how he feels after getting picked apart by pbf whilst chasing him around for 10 rounds.

:patsch:patsch:patsch


:lol::lol::lol:@ U

[BoxingKangaroo]

Zab rocked Kostya 2 or 3 times in the first round. Imagine what Floyd would do. Floyd would have countered him all night. If Zab would have stayed aggressive like the first round, he could have possibly one the fight, but we know Zab is a strong starter, but can't finish.

zab rocked kostya in the first round???? hahahahaha i dont think so, the first round deffinatley went to zab but he deffinatley didnt 'rock' him at all, tszyu had a pretty good chin.

anyways i would of loved to see this fight both at there primes, i think kostya wins by ko simply by using his right hand all night, floyd is good at not getting hit, but it only takes 1 right hand from tszyu to send most peoples head into a spin and onto the canvas. :bbb

[BoxingKangaroo]

It's too easy to say this is a cut and dry boxer vs. puncher matchup, but Tszyu was far from a one dimensional slugger. His amateur record speaks for itself and is a testament to how well schooled he is.

That being said, Mayweather hasn't done anything to show me he would beat Tszyu.

Running won't work - Tszyu cuts off the ring too well.
Boxing and/or Potshotting won't work - Tszyu's timing was uncanny against speedy fighters.
Trading definitely won't work.

Tszyu's achilles heel was elite high pressure fighters. That's not Floyd's game. Styles make fights, and I would comfortably pick Tszyu to take this one.

couldent of said it better myself :good

[Thom]

I was being, more or less, sarcastic, in my post.

I've just gotten--over the years--the nagging feeling, about PBF (due to him being so built-up by the boxing establishment), that if he finishes ANY fight, upright, he's gonna get the "W". That's what I'm basing my 'prediction' on! I DO think a prime PBF has the survival ability to avoid being ko'd by pretty much ANYONE, if thats what he'd got his mind set on.

Very seldom have I seen someone do as little (esp. in a title fight) as PBF did against DLH, and get a win. DLH, actually, did less in his 'win' over Sturm, and SR Leonard's 'win' over Hagler may surpass it, but it was as ridiculous as I'd seen, in a while.

This has to be one of the most idiotic posts that I've read in a while. Are we talking about the same "boxing establishment" as in the mainstream boxing press who bashed Mayweather mercilessly for pretty much the entirety of 2006, or his own network, HBO, where the commentators echo many of the negative sentiments which are repeated here on a daily basis about Mayweather during each one of his fights. This isn't even an argument about whether much of the criticism of Mayweather's skills is legitimate or not. I just have one simple question for you: Do you honestly believe that Floyd fucking Mayweather Jr. has more juice in the "boxing establishment" than Oscar De La Hoya, who is the biggest non-HW draw in the HISTORY of the sport, HBO's long time cash cow, and is also currently a major promoter?

Well, since you honestly seem to think that DLH/Mayweather was some kind of robbery, I guess it isn't out of the realm of possibility for you to actually believe that nonsense you just posted.

[IrnBruMan]

Rubbish post……you lot on here really hate Floyd don’t ya ……you all would love to see him get knocked out…..first it was Castillo beat him in the first match (wrong) and Castillo will win (damn!! how wrong )
I remember the posts b4 the Judah fight when everyone was dreaming that zab would out speed him and then the De la hoya fight when everyone was dreaming that Oscar lands that left hook:patsch.
Now everyone is dreaming a one dimensional fighter like KT would win the best part of 12 rounds (no KT doesn't stop him, as KT wont land flush all night) against PBF!

Boring Boring!!!

actually what's "Boring Boring!!!" is your obvious lack of boxing knowledge and blatant attempt at trying to sound like you know something...idiot! :deal

[IrnBruMan]

From the opening bell, PBF goes into survival mode (a la the DLH fight), runs around the ring, periodically goes to the ropes while holding his hands up, KT lands 'ineffective' punches to the body, PBF pitty-pats into KT's gloves, HBO announcers snow in their pants, over PBF's 'defensive mastery', KT lands an occasional clean punch to PBF's head--though not enough to kd or ko him--PBF lands a couple of good/clean flurries, that do nothing to KT, PBF finishes the fight upright, crowd boos throughout, little action to judge, KT is the clear aggressor, PBF clearly on the defensive all night, PBF seems to be the more marked-up of the two, Harold Lederman, Jim Grey, and Max Kellerman end up scoring fight 118-112 for PBF, say, "KT put up a spirited effort, but PBF's defensive genius was just too much!"

PBF wins a close, split decision--AGAIN. KT retires, in disgust. PBF nuthuggers say everyone else just doesn't appreciate 'true' boxing, and that only 'real' fans, like themselves, realize that landing punches isn't as important as not getting kd'd or ko'd.

Cory Spinks puts on the same type of performance, a week later, against [fill in blank], and loses HIS fight.

:yep :yep :yep :yep

very good

[IrnBruMan]

ODLH couldn't floor Mayweather or catch him, so wheres the logic? Judah is the best non shot fighter Tszyu ever fought, beating him doesn't say a whole lot anymore. IMO Tszyu is THE most over-rated fighter on these boards. Its rediculous.

Beating Judah doesn't say a whole lot anymore eh?

So what does taking 12 rounds to beat him NOW instead of KOing him in 2 back when he was undefeated say?

[MSTR]

Beating Judah doesn't say a whole lot anymore eh?

So what does taking 12 rounds to beat him NOW instead of KOing him in 2 back when he was undefeated say?

Not to mention the whole host of other world champs that Kostya beat. It wasn't just who he beat either, it was how he beat them. The way he dominated Gonzalez for instance was just sickening.

[HopkinsFan]

Just because Tszyu beat Judah in 2 rounds and Mayweather took 12 to beat him doesn't make Tszyu better ya' know.. Different styles, Tszyu was looking for the KO all night and Mayweather's more of a counter puncher.
Tszyu doesn't move his head enough and PBF would get him with a counter left hook and the straight right all night long...
Mayweather by UD 8-4

[IrnBruMan]

Just because Tszyu beat Judah in 2 rounds and Mayweather took 12 to beat him doesn't make Tszyu better ya' know.. Different styles, Tszyu was looking for the KO all night and Mayweather's more of a counter puncher.

No shit sherlock...conversely, stating that beating Judah doesn't look all that great NOW means sweet fuck all but the guy I responded to felt it was worth bringing up :hey

And Tszyu was looking for the KO "all night"?!?!

2 rds - all night? :patsch

Fucks sakes, has ESB had sudden influx of high school dropouts?

[Boro chris]

Rubbish post……you lot on here really hate Floyd don’t ya ……you all would love to see him get knocked out…..first it was Castillo beat him in the first match (wrong) and Castillo will win (damn!! how wrong )
I remember the posts b4 the Judah fight when everyone was dreaming that zab would out speed him and then the De la hoya fight when everyone was dreaming that Oscar lands that left hook:patsch.
Now everyone is dreaming a one dimensional fighter like KT would win the best part of 12 rounds (no KT doesn't stop him, as KT wont land flush all night) against PBF!

Boring Boring!!!

Balls! Watch KT vs Vernon Forrest (its on youtube,cant be arsed to post it) then if you still think KT is a one dimensional fighter then there's obviously no hope for you.
BTW I would pick Floyd in a close, tentative UD due to his (even) greater skills and KTs sometimes questionable defense.

[Tettsuo]

Wow, you guys are desperate to dream up someone that'll beat PBF.

Zoo has nothing that PBF hasn't seen and dealt with already. There isn't any reason for PBF to "run" from Zoo because Zoo is a smaller fighter. The only fighters that have given PBF trouble with their straights are lefties... which Zoo is NOT.

Sorry PBF haters, Zoo is not the fighter to beat PBF.

Floyd would make Zoo look slow and old, all the while making the crowd wish Zoo'd just quit on his stool.

PBF clear UD.

[Dekkers]

Wow, you guys are desperate to dream up someone that'll beat PBF.

Zoo has nothing that PBF hasn't seen and dealt with already.

PBf has never fought a counter puncher as good as Tszyu, Tszyu has excellent accuracy and fast, heavy hands.

There isn't any reason for PBF to "run" from Zoo because Zoo is a smaller fighter.

You must be new to the sport or just not know that much about Tszyu, Tszyu is certainly not smaller than Mayweather, you must be confused since you've been watchiing Mayweather at 147/154 while Tszyu fought at 140 and decided to state what you thought was the obvious, bad slip up for your credibility there.
kPmE5AKpU90

[Arthur]

kPmE5AKpU90

man tszyu was such a badass!! :happy

I miss him.

[carpbeatch]

Wow, you guys are desperate to dream up someone that'll beat PBF.


Exactly. It cracks me up to see how many people want him to lose.

[tills9191]

Not dreaming up ... I think it would have been an excellent match up .. the fight of the decade if not more.. Australia vs USA , best of the best fighting each other, the reason I give KT a good chance is because of his accuracy and timing, thats something needed against some1 as slick and elusive as PBF.

[BoppaZoo]

kPmE5AKpU90that Tszyu that fought Gonzalez that night would beat PBF. i dont care what anyone try;s to tell me.

he was quick with his punch's alot quicker tham people think and his combinations landed all night.
and the PBF fans are trying to tell us that Tszyu wouldnt land anything on PBF. yeah and pigs fly.

[Pimp C]

PBF beats Zoo period. People keep forgetting that PBF at 140 is on a whole different level than the one at 147 or 154, he's faster has more pop and is bigger and stronger than most at 140. People also saying that Zoo would KO PBF are dreaming how many times has PBF been KOed knocked down or really hurt in a fight? If Oscar couldn't KO PBF at 154 and he hits harder than Zoo at 140 then Zoo wouldn't do it at 140:deal

[Shake]

Very close fight. I'd pulling with all my weight for Kostya but I suspect Mayweather would pull out a narrow decision. Zab Judah, before he took a liking to the macarena in the 2nd, posed some problems for Tszu, who had a habit of placing his left way out there. Floyd's right straight could be disaster.

I know one thing. Tszu would cause Mayweather a lot of pain.

[Alcaldemb]

Zab rocked Kostya 2 or 3 times in the first round. Imagine what Floyd would do. Floyd would have countered him all night. If Zab would have stayed aggressive like the first round, he could have possibly one the fight, but we know Zab is a strong starter, but can't finish.

Zab is a strong starter but cannot finish? It was the second round. KT had begun to time Zab and get his range in before the end of the first and was in control by the second. As for imagining what Floyd would do, are you insane? Floyd has nothing resembling Zab's power, nor is he as fast as Zab as evidenced by the first four rounds of their fight.

Kostya would have more trouble with Floyd because he is a better boxer than Zab, that said Floyd is a little slower than Judah and lacks his punch. That coupled with Kostya's ability to time punches and underrated hand speed leads me to believe that KT would win via stoppage around round 8.

[Archie_Moore]

kPmE5AKpU90

Damn Tszyu was an animal, and a lot faster then most people give him credit for.

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Zab is a strong starter but cannot finish? It was the second round. KT had begun to time Zab and get his range in before the end of the first and was in control by the second. As for imagining what Floyd would do, are you insane? Floyd has nothing resembling Zab's power, nor is he as fast as Zab as evidenced by the first four rounds of their fight.

Kostya would have more trouble with Floyd because he is a better boxer than Zab, that said Floyd is a little slower than Judah and lacks his punch. That coupled with Kostya's ability to time punches and underrated hand speed leads me to believe that KT would win via stoppage around round 8.

Funny how the Floyd haters claim "he ain't got no power" but yet he hurt Oscar TWICE in the fight!!, a much bigger man than Kostya :lol: , Floyd would school the hell out of him, Kostya was simply too stantionary and would be picked off at will, i believe Floyd could've stopped him, it would be the Gatti fight all over again!!, anyone Hatton beats Floyd can do it better :D

[Archie_Moore]

Funny how the Floyd haters claim "he ain't got no power" but yet he hurt Oscar TWICE in the fight!!, a much bigger man than Kostya :lol: , Floyd would school the hell out of him, Kostya was simply too stantionary and would be picked off at will, i believe Floyd could've stopped him, it would be the Gatti fight all over again!!, anyone Hatton beats Floyd can do it better :D

Fighters like Floyd didn't give Tszyu problems. So for you to say he would beat him up is laughable. Tszyu dominated the boxers he faced. Period.

DLH is not a better man then Tszyu, he never wanted to face Tszyu and that is just a fact. :good Fight was right infront of him and DLH wanted no part.

And to compare Tszyu to Gatti shows how ignorant you really are, they are 2 completely different fighters, and Tszyu is head and shoulders above any version of Gatti. :good

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Fighters like Floyd didn't give Tszyu problems. So for you to say he would beat him up is laughable. Tszyu dominated the boxers he faced. Period.

DLH is not a better man then Tszyu, he never wanted to face Tszyu and that is just a fact. :good Fight was right infront of him and DLH wanted no part.

And to compare Tszyu to Gatti shows how ignorant you really are, they are 2 completely different fighters, and Tszyu is head and shoulders above any version of Gatti. :good

Lol yet ANOTHER Floyd hater crying their eye's out over the harsh truth!! :lol: , yes Kostya fought a lot of "boxers" BUT NONE OF THEM ON FLOYD'S LEVEL, and where did i compare Gatti to Kostya smart ass? :roll: , i said "it would be like the gatti fight" because Kostya would stand right infront of Floyd with no head movement and simply try and wait to connect with his right hand, Floyd already proved that he can negate Oscars left hand and he'd do the same to your boyfriend, anyway why are people even talking about that washed up bum?!!, the man got batterd against an average fighter like Hatton and people still try and convince themselves that he could have beaten the POUND FOR POUND number one?!! :rofl ,

[acb]

Funny how the Floyd haters claim "he ain't got no power" but yet he hurt Oscar TWICE in the fight!!, a much bigger man than Kostya :lol: , Floyd would school the hell out of him, Kostya was simply too stantionary and would be picked off at will, i believe Floyd could've stopped him, it would be the Gatti fight all over again!!, anyone Hatton beats Floyd can do it better :D

I take Floyd in this fight too, but to say he had Oscar hurt is a little of a stretch.. maybe stunned, but sure as hell not on queer street.

[pit]

if not for Judah's notoriously bad stamina he would have had a good chance at beating Floyd. In those first rounds it was even or maybe even a little lead to Judah. However, when Judah was the strongest ( in the first half) he got KTFO by Kostya.

I think it would end with Kostya KO 7 out of 10 fights.


Judah's stamina was not the only reason he lost to Floyd . Floyd systematically took jab tools from him , with out using his own speed but buy skills and smarts . Floyd had taken Zab apart by round six and ready to go by round 10 until the low blow..

Zoo win was decisive buy stopping zab but what happens to zoo when he is extended which a smarter Floyd would do .. He wouldn't try to KO Zoo like Zab did and then make the mistake of getting KOed . Floyd would look to take Zoo weapons from him then start to take him apart for the later rounds. Floyd is also an underrated body puncher ..

It should also be noted that Floyd is a far more discipline fighter then Zab or Mitch and far more consistent ..

Floyd by UD

[pit]

that Tszyu that fought Gonzalez that night would beat PBF. i dont care what anyone try;s to tell me.

he was quick with his punch's alot quicker tham people think and his combinations landed all night.
and the PBF fans are trying to tell us that Tszyu wouldnt land anything on PBF. yeah and pigs fly.

do you really think that Gonzalez skill are comparable to Floyd's and do you think for one instant that floyd would allow him self to be caught with so many punches along the ropes . and do you rally think Zoo would not respect floyd and just walk in on floyd and have nothing to fear .. ?!?!? answer should be NO .

[Tettsuo]

Fighters like Floyd didn't give Tszyu problems. So for you to say he would beat him up is laughable. Tszyu dominated the boxers he faced. Period.
Fighters like Zoo has never given Floyd problems. So what's your point?

[PorkChopExpress]

Fighters like Zoo has never given Floyd problems. So what's your point?

Most people are saying Tszyu took out guys like Floyd quite well & Floyd handled guys like Tszyu quite well... Both guys are the best of their 'kind' and anyone who has tasted Floyds nuts just want more and more and claim this fight is a walk in the park for Floyd.

I'm sorry but Tszyu is not a walk in the park for anyone - Even now. Neither is Floyd. It's one of the most interesting match ups in boxing and it's a good fight to discuss.

[Ramshall1]

KT in his prime was good enough for Fraud to avoid getting in the ring with him.

[Pimp C]

Judah's stamina was not the only reason he lost to Floyd . Floyd systematically took jab tools from him , with out using his own speed but buy skills and smarts . Floyd had taken Zab apart by round six and ready to go by round 10 until the low blow..

Zoo win was decisive buy stopping zab but what happens to zoo when he is extended which a smarter Floyd would do .. He wouldn't try to KO Zoo like Zab did and then make the mistake of getting KOed . Floyd would look to take Zoo weapons from him then start to take him apart for the later rounds. Floyd is also an underrated body puncher ..

It should also be noted that Floyd is a far more discipline fighter then Zab or Mitch and far more consistent ..

Floyd by UD
Excellent post!:good

[bigtime9]

Fighters like Floyd didn't give Tszyu problems. So for you to say he would beat him up is laughable. Tszyu dominated the boxers he faced. Period.


I love when you post stupid shit..I guess you meant boxers like cool vince philips who derailed the zoo hype job in the 90's one of my fav ko's of all time.

[MSTR]

do you really think that Gonzalez skill are comparable to Floyd's and do you think for one instant that floyd would allow him self to be caught with so many punches along the ropes . and do you rally think Zoo would not respect floyd and just walk in on floyd and have nothing to fear .. ?!?!? answer should be NO .
Gonzalez was a top fighter who had a different skill set to floyd yes. He was still a top fighter though, and to dominate him the way KT did was something special. Do you think Mayweather would have beat up Gonzalez like that? I think not.

[thesandman]

...BUT NONE OF THEM ON FLOYD'S LEVEL, and where did i compare Gatti to Kostya smart ass? :roll: ,
Who has Floyd fought on KT's level? See how it goes? And don't say ODLH. Oscar fought entirely differently to Kostya. ODLH is a one handed fighter, not matter what anyone says. I saw Johnny Lewis (Kostyas trainer) before the Floyd Oscar fight saying "all you have to do to beat Oscar is take away his left hand, and Floyd will be able to do that easily"


i said "it would be like the gatti fight" because Kostya would stand right infront of Floyd with no head movement and simply try and wait to connect with his right hand,

And you base that on what? How the fuck do you know what Kostya would do? If you think he's a slugger and nothing more - then either you haven't watched him fight, or you know nothing.

and people still try and convince themselves that he could have beaten the POUND FOR POUND number one?!! :rofl ,

Yeah, I reckon he'd beat Pacman. Just too big. It would be a close fight with the P4P #2 in PBF though.


Fighters like Zoo has never given Floyd problems. So what's your point?

Fighters like Floyd have never given KT problems. So what's your point? See how easy this game can be?



I think it's a close competitive fight at any time between these 2. Anyone predicting a stroll in the park either way is just blind IMO. Both men are very skilled, with strengths in different areas.

[IrnBruMan]

PBF beats Zoo period. People keep forgetting that PBF at 140 is on a whole different level than the one at 147 or 154, he's faster has more pop and is bigger and stronger than most at 140. People also saying that Zoo would KO PBF are dreaming how many times has PBF been KOed knocked down or really hurt in a fight? If Oscar couldn't KO PBF at 154 and he hits harder than Zoo at 140 then Zoo wouldn't do it at 140:deal

fuck man, you've already been picked up on this but here goes again:

You're basing PBF's ability at 140lbs, nay, you are stating that 'PBF at 140 is on a whole different level than the one at 147 or 154' on 3 fights vs Corley (who buzzed Floyd), Brusseles (who?) and Gatti (nuff said). :deal :deal :deal .

You then go on to use the 'if fighter A couldn't hurt fighter B at 154 then fighter C couldn't hurt fighter A at 140' bullshit :-(

You're a fucking idiot :hey

[IrnBruMan]

Funny how the Floyd haters claim "he ain't got no power" but yet he hurt Oscar TWICE in the fight!!, a much bigger man than Kostya :lol: , Floyd would school the hell out of him, Kostya was simply too stantionary and would be picked off at will, i believe Floyd could've stopped him, it would be the Gatti fight all over again!!, anyone Hatton beats Floyd can do it better :D

When was the last time Floyd clean KO'd an opponent? Yeah, that's right, but you think he's gonna stop Tszyu :lol:

The only 2 to stop Tszyu were Phillips and Hatton, after 10 and 11 rounds of gruelling toe to toe battle.

Seeing as Widdle Fwoyd doesn't like to risk his pwetty face, he won't go toe to toe with Tszyu.

So there goes that theory.

The Gatti fight - well, Tszyu doesn't suffer swelling or cuts like Gatti does, he has a stronger chin than Gatti, has better footwork than Gatti, has better ring command than Gatti, hell, he's better all round than Gatti, and in fact is absolutely NOTHING LIKE Gatti.

Come back when you've watched a few fights, or something, instead of speaking out of your arse :hi:

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Fighters like Floyd have never given KT problems. So what's your point? See how easy this game can be?



I think it's a close competitive fight at any time between these 2. Anyone predicting a stroll in the park either way is just blind IMO. Both men are very skilled, with strengths in different areas.

Well to end this "game" all one has to say is your boy is a washed up old man who quit on his stool in his last fight and was also knocked out clean in his prime by Phillips :lol: , the mere fact that you're not prepard to accept that Floyd is the number one in the game implys to me that you're either blind or simply another bum in the "Let's hate Floyd" coalition, i'd be inclined to suggest you're both.

[thesandman]

When was the last time Floyd clean KO'd an opponent? Yeah, that's right, but you think he's gonna stop Tszyu :lol:

The only 2 to stop Tszyu were Phillips and Hatton, after 10 and 11 rounds of gruelling toe to toe battle.

Seeing as Widdle Fwoyd doesn't like to risk his pwetty face, he won't go toe to toe with Tszyu.

So there goes that theory.

The Gatti fight - well, Tszyu doesn't suffer swelling or cuts like Gatti does, he has a stronger chin than Gatti, has better footwork than Gatti, has better ring command than Gatti, hell, he's better all round than Gatti, and in fact is absolutely NOTHING LIKE Gatti.

Come back when you've watched a few fights, or something, instead of speaking out of your arse :hi:

don't forget, BALDO Ko'd Gatti too.

Thats right, the man that moves like molasses was too quick for Gatti. Wouldn't really call that a big win by old PBF myself, but if that's what does it for you........

[IrnBruMan]

I love when you post stupid shit..I guess you meant boxers like cool vince philips who derailed the zoo hype job in the 90's one of my fav ko's of all time.

yeah, and I'll bet it's your favourite KO because a 'proud black man' stopped a white man, you racist piece of shit :deal :hi:

[thunder06]

why didnt gatti fight tszyu?

[SkillsSoSmooth]

When was the last time Floyd clean KO'd an opponent? Yeah, that's right, but you think he's gonna stop Tszyu :lol:

The only 2 to stop Tszyu were Phillips and Hatton, after 10 and 11 rounds of gruelling toe to toe battle.

Seeing as Widdle Fwoyd doesn't like to risk his pwetty face, he won't go toe to toe with Tszyu.

So there goes that theory.

The Gatti fight - well, Tszyu doesn't suffer swelling or cuts like Gatti does, he has a stronger chin than Gatti, has better footwork than Gatti, has better ring command than Gatti, hell, he's better all round than Gatti, and in fact is absolutely NOTHING LIKE Gatti.

Come back when you've watched a few fights, or something, instead of speaking out of your arse :hi:

Get back under your kilt you silly jock :lol: , you're one of those "Ando" groupies from the british forum ain't you?, you must be as only them jokers are as deluded as you!!, and in closing i'd urge you to learn how to read, suggesting "it would be like the Gatti fight" is not comparing Gatti to Kostya it's simply predicting how dominant Floyd would be you ass wipe!!, :hi:

[thesandman]

Well to end this "game" all one has to say is your boy is a washed up old man who quit on his stool in his last fight and was also knocked out clean in his prime by Phillips :lol: , the mere fact that you're not prepard to accept that Floyd is the number one in the game implys to me that you're either blind or simply another bum in the "Let's hate Floyd" coalition, i'd be inclined to suggest you're both.

Fuck that.

Floyd is #1 based on what?

Beating Gatti?
Beating Baldo?
Beating ODLH, a once a year fighter - who was ranked in 154 by beating serial B sider Mayorga?
Beating Zab?

Please, enlighten me. Do you really think Kostya couldn't beat all of those guys now? Cotto? Margo? Fuck, all 3 of them would have won those fights too, so enlighten me, why is that recent record so great?

Because he stepped up in weight? what weight class did ODLH start in? Hmm, not so impressive now is it?

[IrnBruMan]

Well to end this "game" all one has to say is your boy is a washed up old man who quit on his stool in his last fight and was also knocked out clean in his prime by Phillips :lol: , the mere fact that you're not prepard to accept that Floyd is the number one in the game implys to me that you're either blind or simply another bum in the "Let's hate Floyd" coalition, i'd be inclined to suggest you're both.

Or you could say that your boy is a cowardly runner at 140 and above and has handpicked his opponents ever since he dominated 130, thereby having provided no evidence that he could handle an opponent like Tszyu. DLH gave him some trouble, and DLH is a washed up old man/part time boxer :deal

Tszyu wasn't 'knocked out clean' it was a TKO numbnuts :deal

Tszyu wasn't in his prime' unless you think he went on to unify 140 after his prime :rofl

[IrnBruMan]

don't forget, BALDO Ko'd Gatti too.

Thats right, the man that moves like molasses was too quick for Gatti. Wouldn't really call that a big win by old PBF myself, but if that's what does it for you........

that same molasses man it took the #1P4P bestest ever fighter 12 boring rounds to beat :lol:

(for the PBF nuthuggers, I'm referring to PBF vs Baldomir, you dumb fuckers :yep )

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Fuck that.

Floyd is #1 based on what?

Beating Gatti?
Beating Baldo?
Beating ODLH, a once a year fighter - who was ranked in 154 by beating serial B sider Mayorga?
Beating Zab?

Please, enlighten me. Do you really think Kostya couldn't beat all of those guys now? Cotto? Margo? Fuck, all 3 of them would have won those fights too, so enlighten me, why is that recent record so great?

Because he stepped up in weight? what weight class did ODLH start in? Hmm, not so impressive now is it?

Unbeaten, 5 weight champion who's boxing skills are on different level to most in the game today, i'm sure even if you asked you mum she'd tell you Floyd was number 1 :good

I know the truth must hurt but i'm sorry that's life.

[IrnBruMan]

Get back under your kilt you silly jock :lol: , you're one of those "Ando" groupies from the british forum ain't you?, you must be as only them jokers are as deluded as you!!, and in closing i'd urge you to learn how to read, suggesting "it would be like the Gatti fight" is not comparing Gatti to Kostya it's simply predicting how dominant Floyd would be you ass wipe!!, :hi:

way to answer all of my points you stupid fucking twat :yep

how about responding to my extremely valid points, numbnuts?

Or are they too logical and truthful for you to deal with? They blow your bullshit straight out of the water quite nicely :yep

Fucking teenybopper PBF nuthugger - I'll bet you've never even seen Tszyu fight - you sure as hell haven't seen his Hatton and Phillips fights, since you think one was a clean KO and you just regurgitate the party line 'he quit on his stool' line that the usual clowns around here spit out :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

This idiot can't understand how him saying 'it would be the Gatti fight all over again' is him comparing Gatti to Tszyu :rofl

What a fucking idiot.

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Or you could say that your boy is a cowardly runner at 140 and above and has handpicked his opponents ever since he dominated 130, thereby having provided no evidence that he could handle an opponent like Tszyu. DLH gave him some trouble, and DLH is a washed up old man/part time boxer :deal

Tszyu wasn't 'knocked out clean' it was a TKO numbnuts :deal

Tszyu wasn't in his prime' unless you think he went on to unify 140 after his prime :rofl

It was only the ropes that was holding him up!!, so don't fool yourself jock boy!!, and you need to watch the Oscar fight again, because it was Floyd who rocked him in the 5th round and hurt him in the 10th to the body!!, yeah of course "Oscar gave him trouble" :lol: , i suggest you stick to arguing about your boyfriend Anderson than Mayweather as you're coming over extremely incompetent :hi: .

[SkillsSoSmooth]

way to answer all of my points you stupid fucking twat :yep

how about responding to my extremely valid points, numbnuts?

Or are they too logical and truthful for you to deal with? They blow your bullshit straight out of the water quite nicely :yep

Fucking teenybopper PBF nuthugger - I'll bet you've never even seen Tszyu fight - you sure as hell haven't seen his Hatton and Phillips fights, since you think one was a clean KO and you just regurgitate the party line 'he quit on his stool' line that the usual clowns around here spit out :lol:

You can stuff your haggis where the sun don't shine "braveheart"!! :lol: , you're simply an Anderson whore who's intent on trying your luck with the big boys as "Ando" isn't doing much is he? :rofl , and yep i've sure as hell seen Kostya fight, the last time he got his old ass battered by a pub fighter called Hatton!!, now go wash your kilt you silly jock!!.:hi:

[IrnBruMan]

It was only the ropes that was holding him up!!, so don't fool yourself jock boy!!, and you need to watch the Oscar fight again, because it was Floyd who rocked him in the 5th round and hurt him in the 10th to the body!!, yeah of course "Oscar gave him trouble" :lol: , i suggest you stick to arguing about your boyfriend Anderson than Mayweather as you're coming over extremely incompetent :hi: .

Tszyu was still conscious (just) when the ref stopped the fight. It was ruled a TKO - so he wasn't clean knocked out by Phillips.

Oscar troubled PBF with his jab before he abandoned it.

And so what if PBF stunned DLH a couple of times in the fight? That obviously amazes you, seeing as you're a fan of such a safety first fighter.

And WTF are you talking about re: Anderson? WTF is that?

You're a dumb cunt :yep

PS - answer my points instead of changing the subject:

When was the last time Floyd clean KO'd an opponent? Yeah, that's right, but you think he's gonna stop Tszyu :lol:

The only 2 to stop Tszyu were Phillips and Hatton, after 10 and 11 rounds of gruelling toe to toe battle.

Seeing as Widdle Fwoyd doesn't like to risk his pwetty face, he won't go toe to toe with Tszyu.

So there goes that theory.

The Gatti fight - well, Tszyu doesn't suffer swelling or cuts like Gatti does, he has a stronger chin than Gatti, has better footwork than Gatti, has better ring command than Gatti, hell, he's better all round than Gatti, and in fact is absolutely NOTHING LIKE Gatti.

Come back when you've watched a few fights, or something, instead of speaking out of your arse :hi:

Get back under your kilt you silly jock :lol: , you're one of those "Ando" groupies from the british forum ain't you?, you must be as only them jokers are as deluded as you!!, and in closing i'd urge you to learn how to read, suggesting "it would be like the Gatti fight" is not comparing Gatti to Kostya it's simply predicting how dominant Floyd would be you ass wipe!!, :hi:

[IrnBruMan]

You can stuff your haggis where the sun don't shine "braveheart"!! :lol: , you're simply an Anderson whore who's intent on trying your luck with the big boys as "Ando" isn't doing much is he? :rofl , and yep i've sure as hell seen Kostya fight, the last time he got his old ass battered by a pub fighter called Hatton!!, now go wash your kilt you silly jock!!.:hi:

wow, you really are barking up the wrong tree :lol:

probably because you're a dumb cunt :yep

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Tszyu was still conscious (just) when the ref stopped the fight. It was ruled a TKO - so he wasn't clean knocked out by Phillips.

Oscar troubled PBF with his jab before he abandoned it.

And so what if PBF stunned DLH a couple of times in the fight? That obviously amazes you, seeing as you're a fan of such a safety first fighter.

And WTF are you talking about re: Anderson? WTF is that?

You're a dumb cunt :yep

PS - answer my points instead of changing the subject:

It's interesting you have "mutt" in your name, as you seem to have as much brain cells as an idle dog!! :patsch , Floyd shooled the hell out of Oscar, all Oscar did was have short burst's on the ropes you buffoon, and when he ran out of gas his time was up and he was made to look like an old man, just like Kostya was :lol: , and don't try and deny that you don't know who Anderson is, he's another bum from jock land so i'm sure you two are related!!,

[SkillsSoSmooth]

wow, you really are barking up the wrong tree :lol:

probably because you're a dumb cunt :yep

Do yourself a favor and get yourself a bagpipe, then maybe you can blow on that instead of Kostya's dick!! :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

It's interesting you have "mutt" in your name, as you seem to have as much brain cells as an idle dog!! :patsch , Floyd shooled the hell out of Oscar, all Oscar did was have short burst's on the ropes you buffoon, and when he ran out of gas his time was up and he was made to look like an old man, just like Kostya was :lol: , and don't try and deny that you don't know who Anderson is, he's another bum from jock land so i'm sure you two are related!!,

Yep, keep avoiding answering my points :lol:

Schoolings don't usually result in SDs do they? :think

But then again, I wouldn't expect a dumb motherfucker like yourself to get it.

PS - I don't reside in Scotland, so I know not what the fuck you are rambling on about, numbnuts :yep :hi:

[IrnBruMan]

Do yourself a favor and get yourself a bagpipe, then maybe you can blow on that instead of Kostya's dick!! :lol:

Yep, you sure are dumb...there's no such thing as a 'bagpipe' :yep

Keep 'em coming, I love it when feebs think they're clever :yep

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Yep, keep avoiding answering my points :lol:

Schoolings don't usually result in SDs do they? :think

But then again, I wouldn't expect a dumb motherfucker like yourself to get it.

PS - I don't reside in Scotland, so I know not what the fuck you are rambling on about, numbnuts :yep :hi:

Oh that's right jock boy, "every judge decision is right", not that the sd was for Oscar to save face because it was his company promoting the fight!!, oh no it couldn't be that!!, and you don't reside in scotland?, i don't give a damn, once a silly jock, ALWAYS A SILLY JOCK!! :lol: ,

[IrnBruMan]

Oh that's right jock boy, "every judge decision is right", not that the sd was for Oscar to save face because it was his company promoting the fight!!, oh no it couldn't be that!!, and you don't reside in scotland?, i don't give a damn, once a silly jock, ALWAYS A SILLY JOCK!! :lol: ,

The fact that you continue to fuss over your perception of my nationality instead of answering my points answers everything anyway :yep

now conspiracy theories :lol: :lol: :lol:

see you round dumb cunt :yep :hi:

[SkillsSoSmooth]

The fact that you continue to fuss over your perception of my nationality instead of answering my points answers everything anyway :yep

now conspiracy theories :lol: :lol: :lol:

see you round dumb cunt :yep :hi:

I don't asnwer the questions of idle buffoons who wear skirts thank you very much!!,

Now run along jock boy!! :hi:

[thesandman]

Unbeaten, 5 weight champion who's boxing skills are on different level to most in the game today, i'm sure even if you asked you mum she'd tell you Floyd was number 1 :good

I know the truth must hurt but i'm sorry that's life.

No, my mum would tell me Mike Tyson is the champ......

5 weight belt holder thank you. Champion he is not.

[MSTR]

You can stuff your haggis where the sun don't shine "braveheart"!! :lol: , you're simply an Anderson whore who's intent on trying your luck with the big boys as "Ando" isn't doing much is he? :rofl , and yep i've sure as hell seen Kostya fight, the last time he got his old ass battered by a pub fighter called Hatton!!, now go wash your kilt you silly jock!!.:hi:
LMAO AT YOU!!!! hahaha. Gatti compared to KT. Thats rich. Hatton a pub fighter. Really. I thought he was an undefeated world champion in 2 weight division you moron. And he beat Kostya in still a close fight, when Kostya was aged 35. Lets see how Mayweather fairs against a young undefeated challenger in his own backyard at 35 years old. WOuldn't happen. Mayweather fights garbage like Bruseles in his f#cking prime. What is all the anderson garbage btw. Stick to boxing thanks. You are just embarassing yourself with your juvenile sense of humour. Keep those ones for the schoolyard mate.

[MSTR]

It was only the ropes that was holding him up!!, so don't fool yourself jock boy!!, and you need to watch the Oscar fight again, because it was Floyd who rocked him in the 5th round and hurt him in the 10th to the body!!, yeah of course "Oscar gave him trouble" :lol: , i suggest you stick to arguing about your boyfriend Anderson than Mayweather as you're coming over extremely incompetent :hi: .
As for the Oscar fight, it was bloody close, Mayweather by a few rounds. Nothing to be proud of. The p4p no.1 in his prime beating an aging veteran coming off relative inactivity. Oscar is still a good fighter no doubt, but Floyd was hardly convincing. If you think that was getting schooled I would suggest giving yourself an uppercut. Thanks.

[SkillsSoSmooth]

LMAO AT YOU!!!! hahaha. Gatti compared to KT. Thats rich. Hatton a pub fighter. Really. I thought he was an undefeated world champion in 2 weight division you moron. And he beat Kostya in still a close fight, when Kostya was aged 35. Lets see how Mayweather fairs against a young undefeated challenger in his own backyard at 35 years old. WOuldn't happen. Mayweather fights garbage like Bruseles in his f#cking prime. What is all the anderson garbage btw. Stick to boxing thanks. You are just embarassing yourself with your juvenile sense of humour. Keep those ones for the schoolyard mate.

The same "two weight champion" who could barely stand up in the last 4 rounds against Collazo?, lol your a joker, :lol: and if you step out of dumb mode for a second you'd see that i said Anderson was a scottish boxer, jeez you Kostya groupies have a habbit of asking stupid questions.

And next time mind your damn business that post wasn't aimed at you!!.

[PorkChopExpress]

SkillSoSmooth... it's a shame your retorts aren't as Smooth as your namesake alludes.

How about making a case for yourself, debating others points with points of your own and not acting like you were born in an Elmer Fudd cartoon.

You're making a fool of yourself and you clearly have no retort to Muttley's posts. If you are so right about this you could point out to us people who don't live in your derranged fantasy world where there's enough Floyd testicle for everyone to have a lick exactly WHY this fight isn't a close one like the rest of us are saying.

Don't give us "you don't waste your time on (insert insult referring to us here)" because you've already wasted yours AND our time by posting your drivel for the last 3 pages instead of stating any kind of a case other than "Gatti something or other", "TKO by a pub fighter something or other" and talking about some turd named "Ando" that nobody here fucking knows or cares about.

:roll:

[MSTR]

SkillSoSmooth... it's a shame your retorts aren't as Smooth as your namesake alludes.

How about making a case for yourself, debating others points with points of your own and not acting like you were born in an Elmer Fudd cartoon.

You're making a fool of yourself and you clearly have no retort to Muttley's posts. If you are so right about this you could point out to us people who don't live in your derranged fantasy world where there's enough Floyd testicle for everyone to have a lick exactly WHY this fight isn't a close one like the rest of us are saying.

Don't give us "you don't waste your time on (insert insult referring to us here)" because you've already wasted yours AND our time by posting your drivel for the last 3 pages instead of stating any kind of a case other than "Gatti something or other", "TKO by a pub fighter something or other" and talking about some turd named "Ando" that nobody here fucking knows or cares about.

:roll:
Couldn't have said it better. This guy is a turd burger.

[MSTR]

The same "two weight champion" who could barely stand up in the last 4 rounds against Collazo?, lol your a joker, :lol: and if you step out of dumb mode for a second you'd see that i said Anderson was a scottish boxer, jeez you Kostya groupies have a habbit of asking stupid questions.

And next time mind your damn business that post wasn't aimed at you!!.
Its funny how you think by completely exaggerating you make valid points, when in reality everyone on the site who reads your posts would jump straight to the conclusion that you are an idiot. hatton barely being able to stand for the last 4 rounds. God you are an idiot. He got rocked in the final round and came back strong. A testament to his will power after a long hard fight. It was a close fight, but the way you talk you would think Hatton was throughly dominated and belted around the ring. BTW....As a final point. The pub fighter you are talking about is recognised by Ring magazine as the 9th best p4p boxer on the planet. Not bad for a pub fighter hey.

[SkillsSoSmooth]

SkillSoSmooth... it's a shame your retorts aren't as Smooth as your namesake alludes.

How about making a case for yourself, debating others points with points of your own and not acting like you were born in an Elmer Fudd cartoon.

You're making a fool of yourself and you clearly have no retort to Muttley's posts. If you are so right about this you could point out to us people who don't live in your derranged fantasy world where there's enough Floyd testicle for everyone to have a lick exactly WHY this fight isn't a close one like the rest of us are saying.

Don't give us "you don't waste your time on (insert insult referring to us here)" because you've already wasted yours AND our time by posting your drivel for the last 3 pages instead of stating any kind of a case other than "Gatti something or other", "TKO by a pub fighter something or other" and talking about some turd named "Ando" that nobody here fucking knows or cares about.

:roll:

Oh god, another kangaroo bounces where he's not wanted :patsch , you're obviously either demeted or extremely retarded if you haven't noticed that it's been a TWO WAY argument, but oh no your lips are firmly placed on Kostya's backside and because i've expressed an opinion that Floyd would beat his ass you've already sided with the jock, do yourself a favor and keep your big nose out please as i'm getting bored of incompetent fools, and judging by the disgusting race relations issue's down under i'm not surprised you Aussie's think Kostya could beat Floyd!!, :roll:

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Its funny how you think by completely exaggerating you make valid points, when in reality everyone on the site who reads your posts would jump straight to the conclusion that you are an idiot. hatton barely being able to stand for the last 4 rounds. God you are an idiot. He got rocked in the final round and came back strong. A testament to his will power after a long hard fight. It was a close fight, but the way you talk you would think Hatton was throughly dominated and belted around the ring. BTW....As a final point. The pub fighter you are talking about is recognised by Ring magazine as the 9th best p4p boxer on the planet. Not bad for a pub fighter hey.

So you're talking for "everyone" now Shane Warne?, stick to cricket or "Aussie rules" as you haven't got a clue about boxing :lol: , the bottom line is simple, neither Hatton or Kostya have anywhere near the ability of Floyd, and that's a FACT, you two buffoons from down under make me laugh!!, trying to defend the jock like he's your girlfriend!! :rofl , get a life.

[PorkChopExpress]

Oh god, another kangaroo bounces where he's not wanted :patsch , you're obviously either demeted or extremely retarded if you haven't noticed that it's been a TWO WAY argument, but oh no your lips are firmly placed on Kostya's backside and because i've expressed an opinion that Floyd would beat his ass you've already sided with the jock, do yourself a favor and keep your big nose out please as i'm getting bored of incompetent fools, and judging by the disgusting race relations issue's down under i'm not surprised you Aussie's think Kostya could beat Floyd!!, :roll:

Yeah, it's been two way... One way was Muttley stating an opinion, some facts and making a case for his argument. The other way is you insulting anyone who likes Kostya and thinks there is a POSSIBILITY of him winning and the fact they are BOTH good fighters who have the tools to cancel each other out... with the best man the one exacting his game plan more solidly than the other.

Anyways, still you've not provided a sound argument to state your case and I think now you've proven your not going to... you've been roasted by people who are according to you are demented. Says a lot about you mate... now go climb a tree or something that requires less brain power than continuing in this discussion as you've proved you are truly incapable of doing in a manner that will be treated with any kind of respect.

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Yeah, it's been two way... One way was Muttley stating an opinion, some facts and making a case for his argument. The other way is you insulting anyone who likes Kostya and thinks there is a POSSIBILITY of him winning and the fact they are BOTH good fighters who have the tools to cancel each other out... with the best man the one exacting his game plan more solidly than the other.

Anyways, still you've not provided a sound argument to state your case and I think now you've proven your not going to... you've been roasted by people who are according to you are demented. Says a lot about you mate... now go climb a tree or something that requires less brain power than continuing in this discussion as you've proved you are truly incapable of doing in a manner that will be treated with any kind of respect.

"Go climb a tree" huh?, see, as i said, Aussies seem to have major racial issues :roll: , but i'll "climb a tree" once you take Kostya's dick out of your mouth, needless to say i'll be waiting a long time :lol: , and can't you get it through you thick head?, i said i felt Floyd was too quick and slick for Kostya who never had any head movement, then smart asses like yourself started crying your eye's out because i set the truth free, so don't blame me for "not putting an argument forward" you racist prick!!, now bounce away you foolish twat!!.

[PorkChopExpress]

"Go climb a tree" huh?, see, as i said, Aussies seem to have major racial issues :roll: , but i'll "climb a tree" once you take Kostya's dick out of your mouth, needless to say i'll be waiting a long time :lol: , and can't you get it through you thick head?, i said i felt Floyd was too quick and slick for Kostya who never had any head movement, then smart asses like yourself started crying your eye's out because i set the truth free, so don't blame me for "not putting an argument forward" you racist prick!!, now bounce away you foolish twat!!.

Oh lordie here we go... I tell you to go do something constructive, that requires little brain power and is on the level of CHILDRENS ACTIVITY (which is how you were coming across... a CHILD) and you see racist connotations... I think it's your mind that made that allusion buddy, not mine. You search my posts to earlier on in my ESB posting and you'll see how non-racist I am. I've actually dated and are friends with people of more races and nationalities than that of my own... so don't try that shit buddy racism is something I will not accept from anybody and have no qualms confronting those who are racist about it. No matter what the situation.

Tszyu has no head movement? It's not the greatest but it's definitely there... See end of R1 and all of R2 of Tszyu/Judah. Also Mitchell I and II...

I agree with you mate, Floyd is too quick and elusive... but if you tell me Tszyu doesn't have P4P some of the best timing ever you're blind or are a tool. To say he doesn't is to say some of his best KO's were 'lucky punches' which is bullshit itself...

Saying Tszyu has the timing, power, generalship and skill to take it to Floyd is no more ignorant than saying Tszyu has next to no chance and it's a shut out for Floyd... if you can't see that, fair enough... this conversation might as well end now.

[MSTR]

Yeah, it's been two way... One way was Muttley stating an opinion, some facts and making a case for his argument. The other way is you insulting anyone who likes Kostya and thinks there is a POSSIBILITY of him winning and the fact they are BOTH good fighters who have the tools to cancel each other out... with the best man the one exacting his game plan more solidly than the other.

Anyways, still you've not provided a sound argument to state your case and I think now you've proven your not going to... you've been roasted by people who are according to you are demented. Says a lot about you mate... now go climb a tree or something that requires less brain power than continuing in this discussion as you've proved you are truly incapable of doing in a manner that will be treated with any kind of respect.
Its hilarious how this idiot just makes things up. Like calling you racist because he believes we have racial issues in Aus. When in reality we are one of the most multi cultural countries in the world per population. He is just a wanka. I am ignoring any thing he says from here on in. Its like talking to a 3 year old. Good posts again from both you and Muttley. This guy is so totally owned its not funny. What a clown.

[PorkChopExpress]

Its hilarious how this idiot just makes things up. Like calling you racist because he believes we have racial issues in Aus. When in reality we are one of the most multi cultural countries in the world per population. He is just a wanka. I am ignoring any thing he says from here on in. Its like talking to a 3 year old. Good posts again from both you and Muttley. This guy is so totally owned its not funny. What a clown.

Yeah, he is just another guy who gets carried away with Floyd... I can see why but just because Floyd is a great fighter is no cause to ignore REASON in a debate... anyways, I'm jumpin a train to Newy for the weekend. I'm out.

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Oh lordie here we go... I tell you to go do something constructive, that requires little brain power and is on the level of CHILDRENS ACTIVITY (which is how you were coming across... a CHILD) and you see racist connotations... I think it's your mind that made that allusion buddy, not mine. You search my posts to earlier on in my ESB posting and you'll see how non-racist I am. I've actually dated and are friends with people of more races and nationalities than that of my own... so don't try that shit buddy racism is something I will not accept from anybody and have no qualms confronting those who are racist about it. No matter what the situation.

Tszyu has no head movement? It's not the greatest but it's definitely there... See end of R1 and all of R2 of Tszyu/Judah. Also Mitchell I and II...

I agree with you mate, Floyd is too quick and elusive... but if you tell me Tszyu doesn't have P4P some of the best timing ever you're blind or are a tool. To say he doesn't is to say some of his best KO's were 'lucky punches' which is bullshit itself...

Saying Tszyu has the timing, power, generalship and skill to take it to Floyd is no more ignorant than saying Tszyu has next to no chance and it's a shut out for Floyd... if you can't see that, fair enough... this conversation might as well end now.

Lol oh look the "i have friends" line :lol: , You say that "go climb a tree" shit to a black person (which i am) then you're a racist, and i could only imagine you saying such a remark to aborigenals down under too, that's the type of scum you seem to be!!, and yes Zoo had timing BUT FLOYD IS ONE OF THE BEST DEFENSIVE FIGHTERS EVER, so he'd have his work cut out catching Floyd clean, luckily i haven't seen any of your other posts, the garbage you've spouted here is enough for me thanks,

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Its hilarious how this idiot just makes things up. Like calling you racist because he believes we have racial issues in Aus. When in reality we are one of the most multi cultural countries in the world per population. He is just a wanka. I am ignoring any thing he says from here on in. Its like talking to a 3 year old. Good posts again from both you and Muttley. This guy is so totally owned its not funny. What a clown.

a[Only registered and activated users can see links] isn't that sweet, Porkchop has his own personal cheerleader!! :lol: , and you think the world doesn't see the way you Aussies treat the aborigenals?, you think we're blind to your country's racial prejudice against them?, your even dumber than i thought :patsch

[IrnBruMan]

]"Go climb a tree" huh?, see, as i said, Aussies seem to have major racial issues[/B] :roll: , but i'll "climb a tree" once you take Kostya's dick out of your mouth, needless to say i'll be waiting a long time :lol: , and can't you get it through you thick head?, i said i felt Floyd was too quick and slick for Kostya who never had any head movement, then smart asses like yourself started crying your eye's out because i set the truth free, so don't blame me for "not putting an argument forward" you racist prick!!, now bounce away you foolish twat!!.

"Go climb a tree" is pounced on by this fuckknuckle and deliberately twisted to mean something racist :rofl

If anyone is looking for the definition of hypocracy, look no further than some of this assclown's previous posts

Get back under your kilt you silly jock

You can stuff your haggis where the sun don't shine "braveheart"!! now go wash your kilt you silly jock!!.

, and don't try and deny that you don't know who Anderson is, he's another bum from jock land so i'm sure you two are related!!,

Oh that's right jock boy, "every judge decision is right", not that the sd was for Oscar to save face because it was his company promoting the fight!!, oh no it couldn't be that!!, and you don't reside in scotland?, i don't give a damn, once a silly jock, ALWAYS A SILLY JOCK!! ,

I don't asnwer the questions of idle buffoons who wear skirts thank you very much!!,

Now run along jock boy!!

Oh god, another kangaroo bounces where he's not wanted , and judging by the disgusting race relations issue's down under i'm not surprised you Aussie's think Kostya could beat Floyd!!,

So you're talking for "everyone" now Shane Warne?, stick to cricket or "Aussie rules" as you haven't got a clue about boxing , the bottom line is simple, neither Hatton or Kostya have anywhere near the ability of Floyd, and that's a FACT, you two buffoons from down under make me laugh!!, trying to defend the jock like he's your girlfriend!! , get a life.

[IrnBruMan]

Lol oh look the "i have friends" line :lol: , You say that "go climb a tree" shit to a black person (which i am) then you're a racist, and i could only imagine you saying such a remark to aborigenals down under too, that's the type of scum you seem to be!!, and yes Zoo had timing BUT FLOYD IS ONE OF THE BEST DEFENSIVE FIGHTERS EVER, so he'd have his work cut out catching Floyd clean, luckily i haven't seen any of your other posts, the garbage you've spouted here is enough for me thanks,

go climb a tree you dumb motherfucker :deal

[IrnBruMan]

a[Only registered and activated users can see links] isn't that sweet, Porkchop has his own personal cheerleader!! :lol: , and you think the world doesn't see the way you Aussies treat the aborigenals?, you think we're blind to your country's racial prejudice against them?, your even dumber than i thought :patsch

Obviously the way your country treats your people is pretty atrocious as well, since you are so sensitive to the insult "Go climb a tree" :rofl

So you're black. Congratulations, that means you are entitled to having such an abrasive, arrogant and fuckwitlike attitude - this translates into "confidence", "pride" and "y'all owe me a living" respectively :yep

[Dekkers]

We must be rascist Muttley, we're supporting a Russian born fighter who's a quarter Korean :hat

[IrnBruMan]

We must be rascist Muttley, we're supporting a Russian born fighter who's a quarter Korean :hat

Mate, all that matters is that Tszyu isn't black...that's all that matters...black is the new, umm...black, gnome sayen? :yep

These arsewipes who nuthug PBF are nothing but fairweather fans - if PBF didn't have an '0' in his 'L' column they would have abandoned him long ago...actually, no - most of these nuthuggers have based their opinions on what they've heard about PBF.

It's like when you try to get your little brother into footy, and he chooses a team to support because he likes their strip colours. These fags accuse anyone who dares to criticise PBF of being racist, when the truth of the matter is that the only reason they support the pitiful little cunt is BECAUSE HE'S BLACK :-(

I'm sick and tired of these fuckwits playing the race card every time they are faced with opposition to their unbased hyperbole.

Next time a poster who accuses me of being racist attacks me based on my nationality, I'm giving it back to him as good as I get, gnome sayen a'ight? :yep

[Tettsuo]

I'm still waiting on some actual proof that Tszyu would be able to land anything on Mayweather.

Mayweather has shown time and time again that he is extremely hard to hit. The only people that actually landed on him and hurt him were lefties, not orthodox fighters.

There was nothing unnatural about Tszyu's straight right or his accuracy that would lead me to believe he would fair any better than DLH (who is pretty accurate himself). Can anyone prove that Tsyzu can land on an truly elite fighter? All you can do is speculate. Not to mention the ridiculous argument that because he was accurate against Mitchell and Judah, he'd do well against PBF... wrong. Both Mitchell and Judah are lefties, and lefties tend to fall for the straight right hand. There is nothing about Tsyzu that would give PBF serious trouble. Nothing.

Don't get me wrong, Tsyzu was a very good fighter. Just not the one to beat PBF. Tsyzu would be beaten to the punch and taken completely out of his game. WIDE UD or even a KO in the later rounds.

[IrnBruMan]

I'm still waiting on some actual proof that Tszyu would be able to land anything on Mayweather.

Mayweather has shown time and time again that he is extremely hard to hit. The only people that actually landed on him and hurt him were lefties, not orthodox fighters.

There was nothing unnatural about Tszyu's straight right or his accuracy that would lead me to believe he would fair any better than DLH (who is pretty accurate himself). Can anyone prove that Tsyzu can land on an truly elite fighter? All you can do is speculate. Not to mention the ridiculous argument that because he was accurate against Mitchell and Judah, he'd do well against PBF... wrong. Both Mitchell and Judah are lefties, and lefties tend to fall for the straight right hand. There is nothing about Tsyzu that would give PBF serious trouble. Nothing.

Don't get me wrong, Tsyzu was a very good fighter. Just not the one to beat PBF. Tsyzu would be beaten to the punch and taken completely out of his game. WIDE UD or even a KO in the later rounds.

Can you prove PBF beats Tszyu by wide UD or even KO in the later rounds?

Hmmm?

Or are you as dumb as your posts suggest?

Hmmm?

idiot :deal

[tills9191]

Man this thread is going off like a jewish foreskin hehe :lol:

[Dekkers]

The only people that actually landed on him and hurt him were lefties, not orthodox fighters.

It sounds like you've only seen Mayweathers last 4-5 fights, Castillo isn't a leftie, Augustus who Floyd himself spoke highly of isn't a leftie. Guys who aren't lefties land leather on Floyd. Floyd isn't untouchable, and if Tszyu lands it's going to hurt more than when Judah or Corley landing anything.

The arguments for why Tszyu can land have already been made, excellent counterpuncher, very accurate, fast, and heavy hands.... if you've got your head up your own arse it's not our problem :D

[China_hand_Joe]

Didn't Corley land a shot on Floyd, that would be worse if it were from Tszyu.

[Tettsuo]

Can you prove PBF beats Tszyu by wide UD or even KO in the later rounds?

Hmmm?

Or are you as dumb as your posts suggest?

Hmmm?

idiot :deal
Never said I could prove it. Dumbass.

Reading is Fundamental. Catchy slogan, you should heed it. Oops! Sorry, that would mean you'd actually have to READ.

[Tettsuo]

It sounds like you've only seen Mayweathers last 4-5 fights, Castillo isn't a leftie, Augustus who Floyd himself spoke highly of isn't a leftie. Guys who aren't lefties land leather on Floyd. Floyd isn't untouchable, and if Tszyu lands it's going to hurt more than when Judah or Corley landing anything.

The arguments for why Tszyu can land have already been made, excellent counterpuncher, very accurate, fast, and heavy hands.... if you've got your head up your own arse it's not our problem :D
DLH isn't a lefty either and he didn't hurt Floyd, even went he did land leather. I'd say DLH is a bigger puncher than Tszyu. Not to mention at the time PBF and DLH fought DLH had him by at least 10pounds. Oh, and let's not forget that DLH is also bigger and stronger than Tszyu. Still failed to seriously hurt Floyd.

Again I say, there is nothing in Tszyu bag that PBF hasn't already seen and defeated. So I don't see why anyone would pick him over PBF. Makes no sense.. other than wishing for someone, anyone to take Floyd out.

[Tettsuo]

Didn't Corley land a shot on Floyd, that would be worse if it were from Tszyu.
Corley's a lefty. That straight left has been the only punch I've seen serious hurt Floyd.

[SugarRay]

I'm still waiting on some actual proof that Tszyu would be able to land anything on Mayweather.

Mayweather has shown time and time again that he is extremely hard to hit. The only people that actually landed on him and hurt him were lefties, not orthodox fighters.

There was nothing unnatural about Tszyu's straight right or his accuracy that would lead me to believe he would fair any better than DLH (who is pretty accurate himself). Can anyone prove that Tsyzu can land on an truly elite fighter? All you can do is speculate. Not to mention the ridiculous argument that because he was accurate against Mitchell and Judah, he'd do well against PBF... wrong. Both Mitchell and Judah are lefties, and lefties tend to fall for the straight right hand. There is nothing about Tsyzu that would give PBF serious trouble. Nothing.

Don't get me wrong, Tsyzu was a very good fighter. Just not the one to beat PBF. Tsyzu would be beaten to the punch and taken completely out of his game. WIDE UD or even a KO in the later rounds.

Mayweather was tagged by Castillo time and time again. Prime Tszyu was a real beast - more accurate and faster than Castillo. Just having superb defence will no stop Tszyu in his tracks. I remembered people were saying that Judah prior to the Tszyu was just as good defensively as Whittaker except that he could pack a punch. Tszyu pretty much destroyed his career in two rouds.

[Tettsuo]

Mayweather was tagged by Castillo time and time again. Prime Tszyu was a real beast - more accurate and faster than Castillo. Just having superb defence will no stop Tszyu in his tracks. I remembered people were saying that Judah prior to the Tszyu was just as good defensively as Whittaker except that he could pack a punch. Tszyu pretty much destroyed his career in two rouds.
Castillo is a much different animal than Tszyu. As many have said, STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

[SugarRay]

Castillo is a much different animal than Tszyu. As many have said, STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

Yes. Bigger, stronger, faster, and more accurate. Mayweather has never fought anyone close to Tszyu style. So, it's just speculaton either way.

Some people say that performances in the amateurs have no bearing on performances in the professionals. I disagree. They quote a handful of cases which may disprove the theory but, in majority of cases boxers who perform well in the amateurs also perform well in the pros. Tszyu was virtually unbeatable in the amateurs which, says something about his boxing abilities. So, Mayweather outboxing Tszyu is a real question mark in my books. Furthermore, Tszyu has the power to hurt which, makes it even more difficult for Mayweather. The only way I can see Tszyu get beat is being out hustled and out muscled like the Phillips and Hatton fights. Mayweather is not the fighter than falls into this category.

[pit]

Gonzalez was a top fighter who had a different skill set to floyd yes. He was still a top fighter though, and to dominate him the way KT did was something special. Do you think Mayweather would have beat up Gonzalez like that? I think not.

most defiantly!!!!! Gonzalez is not even in Floyd's league are you kidding me ?!?!?

Floyd would woop Gonzales everyday of the week even on off days be fucking serious .

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Obviously the way your country treats your people is pretty atrocious as well, since you are so sensitive to the insult "Go climb a tree" :rofl

So you're black. Congratulations, that means you are entitled to having such an abrasive, arrogant and fuckwitlike attitude - this translates into "confidence", "pride" and "y'all owe me a living" respectively :yep

Haven't you heeded my advice you silly mutt?, go and blow on a bagpipe as the gibberish that you're spouting is retarded :lol: , i hope you thanked your Aussie boyfriends for trying to come to your rescue, it's just a pity they failed in vain,

And p.s, there's a difference between nationality and someone's race you dumb jock!!,

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Mate, all that matters is that Tszyu isn't black...that's all that matters...black is the new, umm...black, gnome sayen? :yep

These arsewipes who nuthug PBF are nothing but fairweather fans - if PBF didn't have an '0' in his 'L' column they would have abandoned him long ago...actually, no - most of these nuthuggers have based their opinions on what they've heard about PBF.

It's like when you try to get your little brother into footy, and he chooses a team to support because he likes their strip colours. These fags accuse anyone who dares to criticise PBF of being racist, when the truth of the matter is that the only reason they support the pitiful little cunt is BECAUSE HE'S BLACK :-(

I'm sick and tired of these fuckwits playing the race card every time they are faced with opposition to their unbased hyperbole.

Next time a poster who accuses me of being racist attacks me based on my nationality, I'm giving it back to him as good as I get, gnome sayen a'ight? :yep

And then there's the prejudice pricks who can't stand to see a black man in the number one spot and will try and convince people that a washed up Aussie fighter would have had a chance against one of the true greats of the sport, :lol:

Your not fooling anyone.

[Dekkers]

And then there's the prejudice pricks who can't stand to see a black man in the number one spot and will try and convince people that a washed up Aussie fighter would have had a chance against one of the true greats of the sport, :lol:

Your not fooling anyone.

That's not any kind of rational argument, try to say something of substance instead of acting like a retard :hi

[IrnBruMan]

Never said I could prove it. Dumbass.

Reading is Fundamental. Catchy slogan, you should heed it. Oops! Sorry, that would mean you'd actually have to READ.

I'm still waiting on some actual proof that Tszyu would be able to land anything on Mayweather.

Mayweather has shown time and time again that he is extremely hard to hit. The only people that actually landed on him and hurt him were lefties, not orthodox fighters.

There was nothing unnatural about Tszyu's straight right or his accuracy that would lead me to believe he would fair any better than DLH (who is pretty accurate himself). Can anyone prove that Tsyzu can land on an truly elite fighter? All you can do is speculate. Not to mention the ridiculous argument that because he was accurate against Mitchell and Judah, he'd do well against PBF... wrong. Both Mitchell and Judah are lefties, and lefties tend to fall for the straight right hand. There is nothing about Tsyzu that would give PBF serious trouble. Nothing.

Don't get me wrong, Tsyzu was a very good fighter. Just not the one to beat PBF. Tsyzu would be beaten to the punch and taken completely out of his game. WIDE UD or even a KO in the later rounds.

You're asking for proof - so am I.

Can you provide any, fuck knuckle?

[IrnBruMan]

I'd say DLH is a bigger puncher than Tszyu.

Your reasoning for this?

[Tettsuo]

Yes. Bigger, stronger, faster, and more accurate. Mayweather has never fought anyone close to Tszyu style. So, it's just speculaton either way.
Wrong. Castillo is bigger than Tszyu with better reach. Look it up.

Some people say that performances in the amateurs have no bearing on performances in the professionals. I disagree. They quote a handful of cases which may disprove the theory but, in majority of cases boxers who perform well in the amateurs also perform well in the pros. Tszyu was virtually unbeatable in the amateurs which, says something about his boxing abilities. So, Mayweather outboxing Tszyu is a real question mark in my books. Furthermore, Tszyu has the power to hurt which, makes it even more difficult for Mayweather. The only way I can see Tszyu get beat is being out hustled and out muscled like the Phillips and Hatton fights. Mayweather is not the fighter than falls into this category.
Mayweather has the power to hurt. Look it up. He's faster and bigger than Tszyu, and would not let Zoo muscle him around. Tszyu has a puncher's chance. That's it.

[IrnBruMan]

Yes. Bigger, stronger, faster, and more accurate. Mayweather has never fought anyone close to Tszyu style. So, it's just speculaton either way.

Some people say that performances in the amateurs have no bearing on performances in the professionals. I disagree. They quote a handful of cases which may disprove the theory but, in majority of cases boxers who perform well in the amateurs also perform well in the pros. Tszyu was virtually unbeatable in the amateurs which, says something about his boxing abilities. So, Mayweather outboxing Tszyu is a real question mark in my books. Furthermore, Tszyu has the power to hurt which, makes it even more difficult for Mayweather. The only way I can see Tszyu get beat is being out hustled and out muscled like the Phillips and Hatton fights. Mayweather is not the fighter than falls into this category.

good post

[IrnBruMan]

most defiantly!!!!! Gonzalez is not even in Floyd's league are you kidding me ?!?!?

Floyd would woop Gonzales everyday of the week even on off days be fucking serious .

:rofl :rofl :rofl

[Dekkers]

Wrong. Castillo is bigger than Tszyu with better reach. Look it up.


Mayweather has the power to hurt. Look it up. He's faster and bigger than Tszyu, and would not let Zoo muscle him around. Tszyu has a puncher's chance. That's it.

There's a difference between taller and bigger, Tszyu's very strong, very thick, threw Mitchell and Chavez around like rag dolls. Besides, most people picking Tszyu aren't picking him on points.

[IrnBruMan]

Haven't you heeded my advice you silly mutt?, go and blow on a bagpipe as the gibberish that you're spouting is retarded :lol: , i hope you thanked your Aussie boyfriends for trying to come to your rescue, it's just a pity they failed in vain,

And p.s, there's a difference between nationality and someone's race you dumb jock!!,

Go pick some cotton or bust up a chiffarobe for poor Mayella Ewell you dumb motherfucker :lol:

[Tettsuo]

You're asking for proof - so am I.

Can you provide any, fuck knuckle?
So basically you're admitting to having no proof? Instead of being a man, you're being a bitch by trying to change the subject.

I have no problem admitting I have no proof and it's all speculation.

My point? Bring this back to earth. We're all speculating here.

[IrnBruMan]

And then there's the prejudice pricks who can't stand to see a black man in the number one spot and will try and convince people that a washed up Aussie fighter would have had a chance against one of the true greats of the sport, :lol:

Your not fooling anyone.

So come on man, don't hide behind poor grammar and spelling, say what you really mean :deal

[SkillsSoSmooth]

That's not any kind of rational argument, try to say something of substance instead of acting like a retard :hi

Say's the Aussie Kostya fan!!, you just proved my point :lol:

As i said, ya'll ain't fooling anyone,

[SkillsSoSmooth]

:lol: Go pick some cotton or bust up a chiffarobe for poor Mayella Ewell you dumb motherfucker

And go stick your kilt up your ass braveheart!! :lol:

[Dekkers]

So basically you're admitting to having no proof? Instead of being a man, you're being a bitch by trying to change the subject.

I have no problem admitting I have no proof and it's all speculation.

My point? Bring this back to earth. We're all speculating here.

Meh, I don't really think you've seen much of Tszyu personally, most Aussie fans have seen a fair bit of both fighters. I don't think anyone who's seen a prime Tszyu go to work would think so little of him and his offensive tools.

[IrnBruMan]

Wrong. Castillo is bigger than Tszyu with better reach. Look it up.


Mayweather has the power to hurt. Look it up. He's faster and bigger than Tszyu, and would not let Zoo muscle him around. Tszyu has a puncher's chance. That's it.

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Can you tell us where JLC spent most of his career?

Can you tell us the last time PBF clean KO'd an opponent?

Can you tell us the last time Tszyu was clean KO'd by an opponent?

Fuck these teenyboppers are easy :lol: :rofl

[Tettsuo]

Meh, I don't really think you've seen much of Tszyu personally, most Aussie fans have seen a fair bit of both fighters. I don't think anyone who's seen a prime Tszyu go to work would think so little of him and his offensive tools.
Who said I don't think much of Tszyu's skills? I think Tszyu was a great fighter, just don't see him beating Mayweather.

[Dekkers]

Say's the Aussie Kostya fan!!, you just proved my point :lol:

As i said, ya'll ain't fooling anyone,
Why because, i'm the son of migrants? Because I have the blood of about a half dozen diiferent races flowing through my veins? Because i'm a fan of a Russian born fighter who's a quarter Korean? I'm not fooling anyone into thinking i'm not racist? :rofl

Listen, you're dumb, and it's got nothing to do with the clour of your skin, if you we're white, asian, anything, you'd still be dumb, you being dumb has nothing to do with racism :good

[SkillsSoSmooth]

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Can you tell us where JLC spent most of his career?

Can you tell us the last time PBF clean KO'd an opponent?

Can you tell us the last time Tszyu was clean KO'd by an opponent?

Fuck these teenyboppers are easy :lol: :rofl

Well i can tell you the last time Kostya quit on his stool jock boy :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

So basically you're admitting to having no proof? Instead of being a man, you're being a bitch by trying to change the subject.

I have no problem admitting I have no proof and it's all speculation.

My point? Bring this back to earth. We're all speculating here.

No shit sherlock - wasn't it you who said you see no PROOF that KT beats PBF? :deal

Clowns like you have absolutely no concept of debate :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tettsuo]

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Can you tell us where JLC spent most of his career?

Can you tell us the last time PBF clean KO'd an opponent?

Can you tell us the last time Tszyu was clean KO'd by an opponent?

Fuck these teenyboppers are easy :lol: :rofl
WTF... a quiz? You really are a gay huh?

Anyone can go to Boxing Rec and get your stupid ass questions. Just stay on topic instead of trying to prove yourself to be a dumbass.

You still have yet to be a man and admit you have no proof. Fuckin' idiot...

[IrnBruMan]

Say's the Aussie Kostya fan!!, you just proved my point :lol:

As i said, ya'll ain't fooling anyone,

No, you just proved my point :rofl

[Tettsuo]

No shit sherlock - wasn't it you who said you see no PROOF that KT beats PBF? :deal

Clowns like you have absolutely no concept of debate :lol: :lol: :lol:
More retard banter from the gay boy.

Go back to suckin' dicks on the strip...

OR

Debate and stay on topic.

[Dekkers]

WTF... a quiz? You really are a gay huh?

Anyone can go to Boxing Rec and get your stupid ass questions. Just stay on topic instead of trying to prove yourself to be a dumbass.

You still have yet to be a man and admit you have no proof. Fuckin' idiot...
Every criticism your'e levelling can be levelled at you, demanding proof while giving none? Give it a rest mate, it's called hypocrisy.

[IrnBruMan]

:lol:

And go stick your kilt up your ass braveheart!! :lol:

:lol: Go sign on for welfare porch monkey!! :lol:

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Why because, i'm the son of migrants? Because I have the blood of about a half dozen diiferent races flowing through my veins? Because i'm a fan of a Russian born fighter who's a quarter Korean? I'm not fooling anyone into thinking i'm not racist? :rofl

Listen, you're dumb, and it's got nothing to do with the clour of your skin, if you we're white, asian, anything, you'd still be dumb, you being dumb has nothing to do with racism :good

Quit with the "biography" crap son NOBODY CARES, my point was people can't stand to see a black fighter on top, and thus far the pure idle drivel that you've spouted doesn't convince me that you hold a different opinion to that of your fellow Kostya groupies, now run along!!.

[IrnBruMan]

Well i can tell you the last time Kostya quit on his stool jock boy :lol:

But you can't answer my 4 simple questions :lol:

Thanks for coming cotton picker :hi:

[IrnBruMan]

WTF... a quiz? You really are a gay huh?

Anyone can go to Boxing Rec and get your stupid ass questions. Just stay on topic instead of trying to prove yourself to be a dumbass.

You still have yet to be a man and admit you have no proof. Fuckin' idiot...

You said you hadn't yet seen any proof that Tszyu could beat Mayweathr.

Wheres' YOUR proof that he can't?

[Dekkers]

Quit with the "biography" crap son NOBODY CARES, my point was people can't stand to see a black fighter on top, and thus far the pure idle drivel that you've spouted doesn't convince me that you hold a different opinion to that of your fellow Kostya groupies, now run along!!.

Don't get upset now, if you don't like being called dumb, then then don't talk shit about things you know nothing about, like me being a racist :good

[SkillsSoSmooth]

:lol: Go sign on for welfare porch monkey!! :lol:

At least i'll be getting money nazi boy!! :lol: , rather that than be a paedo like your retarded self!!,

And i'm glad i've made the racist side come out of you for everyone to see, well done you dumb jock :hi:

[Tettsuo]

Every criticism your'e levelling can be levelled at you, demanding proof while giving none? Give it a rest mate, it's called hypocrisy.
Uhhhh, no. I've already admitted that it's impossible to provide any real proof. It's all speculation. No hypocrisy here.

Just making a point. A real man will freely admit to something instead of trying to change the subject like a bitch. Anyone who's ever been involved with a woman will understand that's a game women play. Change the subject instead of admitting anything.

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Don't get upset now, if you don't like being called dumb, then then don't talk shit about things you know nothing about, like me being a racist :good

Have you seen the racist post your boyfriend just did?, as they say the company you keep is what you become!! , you Kostya groupies are all the same!!.

[IrnBruMan]

More retard banter from the gay boy.

Go back to suckin' dicks on the strip...

OR

Debate and stay on topic.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

here, I'll spell it out for you nutboy:

You came in saying you hadn't seen any PROOF that KT could beat PBF

I asked you for PROOf THAT PBF could beat KT.

What is your problem in providing the very thing you are asking the KT supporters for :deal

Is English your first language, or do you want I shld speek like dis yo?:lol:

You dumb motherfucker :yep

[Dekkers]

Uhhhh, no. I've already admitted that it's impossible to provide any real proof. It's all speculation. No hypocrisy here.

Just making a point. A real man will freely admit to something instead of trying to change the subject like a bitch. Anyone who's ever been involved with a woman will understand that's a game women play. Change the subject instead of admitting anything.

We're all just analysing the fight here, I already put up film made a few points, I was hoping more for a debate than a shit storm :yep but, I ain't going to retype what I wrote and what other poeple wrote everytime someone asks though :D

[SkillsSoSmooth]

But you can't answer my 4 simple questions :lol:

Thanks for coming cotton picker :hi:

What did i tell you?, i don't answer the questions of racist, paedofile jocks, that's always been my policy :hi:

[Dekkers]

Have you seen the racist post your boyfriend just did?, as they say the company you keep is what you become!! , you Kostya groupies are all the same!!.

:|

Mate you're a big boy, find some way to deal with it, don't come crying to me.

[IrnBruMan]

At least i'll be getting money nazi boy!! :lol: , rather that than be a paedo like your retarded self!!,

And i'm glad i've made the racist side come out of you for everyone to see, well done you dumb jock :hi:

hey man, calling me a dumb jock for 4 pages is a good indication of your view on non-blacks...meanwhile, what was racist about my post, chain-gang choir leader? :lol:

[SkillsSoSmooth]

:|

Mate you're a big boy, find some way to deal with it, don't come crying to me.

No i'm not crying dumbass, i'm just telling you that you and your boyfriend are just the same, can't you read? :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

Uhhhh, no. I've already admitted that it's impossible to provide any real proof. It's all speculation. No hypocrisy here.

Just making a point. A real man will freely admit to something instead of trying to change the subject like a bitch. Anyone who's ever been involved with a woman will understand that's a game women play. Change the subject instead of admitting anything.

ahem!

aren't we supposed to be discussing who might win out of KT and PBF?

[Tettsuo]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

here, I'll spell it out for you nutboy:

You came in saying you hadn't seen any PROOF that KT could beat PBF

I asked you for PROOf THAT PBF could beat KT.

What is your problem in providing the very thing you are asking the KT supporters for :deal

Is English your first language, or do you want I shld speek like dis yo?:lol:

You dumb motherfucker :yep
Sand in your vagina Miss?

LOL.. STFU and be a man. Stop trying to avoid it. All you're doing is showing yourself to be more a bitch-made fag each time to refuse to man up.

I gave my answer... you're still avoiding answering. Just like a bitch and still avoiding the topic of discussion. Even more bitch like manuvering. :rofl

[Dekkers]

No i'm not crying dumbass, i'm just telling you that you and your boyfriend are just the same, can't you read? :lol:

Of course you're crying about it. If you're just going to whine why continue wasting the time of people who want to talk about the fight?

[SkillsSoSmooth]

hey man, calling me a dumb jock for 4 pages is a good indication of your view on non-blacks...meanwhile, what was racist about my post, chain-gang choir leader? :lol:

Hey paedo you still wearing those skirts?, :lol: and the racist bile don't bother me, i could turn around tomorrow and claim i'm from China, you'd never know the truth, but with that scottish flag at the side of your name i know your a dirty jock, and you can stick that flag where the son don't shine!! :good

[IrnBruMan]

What did i tell you?, i don't answer the questions of racist, paedofile jocks, that's always been my policy :hi:

Wow, how racist of you

I guess my pro-white, anti-black questions really gave you fits :roll:

PS - learn to spell - whatever it is that your accusing me of, I think you're getting mixed up with the Latin term for a stamp collector :lol:

PSS - And I'm not calling you dumbass because you're black, I'm calling you dumbass because you're a dumbass :yep

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Of course you're crying about it. If you're just going to whine why continue wasting the time of people who want to talk about the fight?

Yeah it's not like your boyfriend isn't wasting people's time too right?!!, bias, and yet you find a way to act even more stupid than i thought your were.

[RafaelGonzal]

Kostya got lucky with Zab that he caught him good and early had zab got a chance to get into his game Kostya would have been cut to ribbons lets leave it at that.

[IrnBruMan]

Sand in your vagina Miss?

LOL.. STFU and be a man. Stop trying to avoid it. All you're doing is showing yourself to be more a bitch-made fag each time to refuse to man up.

I gave my answer... you're still avoiding answering. Just like a bitch and still avoiding the topic of discussion. Even more bitch like manuvering. :rofl

yeah, I thought as much...

YOU: "I see no PROOF...but where's your PROOF..."

How fucking dumb are you? :lol:

(don't bother answering, it's a rhetorical question :yep ):hi:

[Dekkers]

Yeah it's not like your boyfriend isn't wasting people's time too right?!!, bias, and yet you find a way to act even more stupid than i thought your were.

Stop whining already, do something constructive like talk about the sort of strategy Floyd would employ against Tszyu :patsch

[IrnBruMan]

Hey paedo you still wearing those skirts?, :lol: and the racist bile don't bother me, i could turn around tomorrow and claim i'm from China, you'd never know the truth, but with that scottish flag at the side of your name i know your a dirty jock, and you can stick that flag where the son don't shine!! :good

what racist bile?

[Dekkers]

Kostya got lucky with Zab that he caught him good and early had zab got a chance to get into his game Kostya would have been cut to ribbons lets leave it at that.

True, Zab always gets stronger in the mid to late rounds :yep

[IrnBruMan]

Kostya got lucky with Zab that he caught him good and early had zab got a chance to get into his game Kostya would have been cut to ribbons lets leave it at that.

oh fuck off with that shit :patsch

no doubt you believe Nady called it off too soon too :nut

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Wow, how racist of you

I guess my pro-white, anti-black questions really gave you fits :roll:

PS - learn to spell - whatever it is that your accusing me of, I think you're getting mixed up with the Latin term for a stamp collector :lol:

PSS - And I'm not calling you dumbass because you're black, I'm calling you dumbass because you're a dumbass :yep

Haha now you're denying that your a racist jock?, run out of slurs to say have you? :lol: , Go iron your skirt you freak!!,

And i've managed to find the word i'm accusing you of, PEDOPHILE, yep, there's a lot of those in the "i love Kostya" coalition!! :rofl ,

[IrnBruMan]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

here, I'll spell it out for you nutboy:

You came in saying you hadn't seen any PROOF that KT could beat PBF

I asked you for PROOf THAT PBF could beat KT.

What is your problem in providing the very thing you are asking the KT supporters for :deal

Is English your first language, or do you want I shld speek like dis yo?:lol:

You dumb motherfucker :yep

still waiting for an answer from Mr KnowItAll :yep

[IrnBruMan]

Haha now you're denying that your a racist jock?, run out of slurs to say have you? :lol: , Go iron your skirt you freak!!,

And i've managed to find the word i'm accusing you of, PEDOPHILE, yep, there's a lot of those in the "i love Kostya" coalition!! :rofl ,

'racist jock' :lol: :lol: :lol:

How old are you mate?

[SkillsSoSmooth]

'racist jock' :lol: :lol: :lol:

How old are you mate?

I bet you ask all the little boys that question as you seem to like them young, :lol:

[acb]

Kostya got lucky with Zab that he caught him good and early had zab got a chance to get into his game Kostya would have been cut to ribbons lets leave it at that.

Hell no, that was a perfectly timed right hand, in fact it was two. The first one was timed perfectly but didnt quite fully connect, and the second one was right on the button.

This has to be the shittiest post Ive seen in at leats a month. Zab come on lat in a fight to ¨cut someone to ribbons¨. :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

I bet you ask all the little boys that question as you seem to like them young, :lol:

And still you skip around the real questions like the gay little fairy you are :yep

[Dekkers]

Admit it Muttley, you just love this shit don't you :yep:D

[SkillsSoSmooth]

And still you skip around the real questions like the gay little fairy you are :yep

Do i have to repeat myself again?, I DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM A RACIST JOCK, i don't know why you can't fathom that :patsch

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Admit it Muttley, you just love this shit don't you :yep:D

So you accuse me of "messing up the thread" but then kiss your boyfriends ass?, man you really are dumb!!,

[Dekkers]

So you accuse me of "messing up the thread" but then kiss your boyfriends ass?, man you really are dumb!!,

Yeah but he actually contributed something to the thread, i'm still waiting for you to deliver something.

Maybe I can help you out a bit, you've probably seen Floyd fight in the pocket a lot. Frankly though against Tszyu he'd be better off using more movement, looking to quickly move in and out, and get angles, if he tries to counter punch in the pocket he'll find his counters being countered, Tszyu fakes and varies his tempo a lot in the pocket, it's not the smart distance to engage Tszyu in.

[HopkinsFan]

No shit sherlock...conversely, stating that beating Judah doesn't look all that great NOW means sweet fuck all but the guy I responded to felt it was worth bringing up :hey

And Tszyu was looking for the KO "all night"?!?!

2 rds - all night? :patsch

Fucks sakes, has ESB had sudden influx of high school dropouts?

The actual HBO commentators and a shit load of other boxing commentators use the term all night long because that's what it is, for every single round he was looking for the ko.. doesn't matter if it's for 1 round or 11 it's still all night, and since there commentators and you're some cockhead tryin' to rag on people over a forum i think i'll lean towards their terms..
As for highschool dropout's i'm still in school mate and you're the one with 3 and a half thousand posts all in about a year.. :thumbsup 'sherlock'

[IrnBruMan]

Do i have to repeat myself again?, I DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM A RACIST JOCK, i don't know why you can't fathom that :patsch

thanks for coming dumbass :yep :hi:

[IrnBruMan]

Yeah but he actually contributed something to the thread, i'm still waiting for you to deliver something.

Maybe I can help you out a bit, you've probably seen Floyd fight in the pocket a lot. Frankly though against Tszyu he'd be better off using more movement, looking to quickly move in and out, and get angles, if he tries to counter punch in the pocket he'll find his counters being countered, Tszyu fakes and varies his tempo a lot in the pocket, it's not the smart distance to engage Tszyu in.

naw man, this is too much for the average PBF fan to take in, and I think you know this, you naughty Dekkers you! :lol: :good

[IrnBruMan]

The actual HBO commentators and a shit load of other boxing commentators use the term all night long because that's what it is, for every single round he was looking for the ko.. doesn't matter if it's for 1 round or 11 it's still all night, and since there commentators and you're some cockhead tryin' to rag on people over a forum i think i'll lean towards their terms..
As for highschool dropout's i'm still in school mate and you're the one with 3 and a half thousand posts all in about a year.. :thumbsup 'sherlock'

Hey dickweed - were the HBO commentators claiming Tszyu was looking for the KO 'all night' thru the first rd?

[tills9191]

well KT really likes to take his time in going for the KO, reason he knocks fighters out so early, is because of his big right hand, once it lands, it does a lot of damage..very few fighters can handle it with the exceptions of oktay urkal, that guy can take a punch, not sure how solid PBF's chin is, only time will tell, but man , it would have been 1 hell of a fight, much better than DHL vs Floyd any day of the week, fight of the century possibly ,in the jnr welterweight/welterweight division, whichever 1 they fought at..

[HopkinsFan]

oh 'dickweed' look out someone dropped the a-bomb, i can barely remember the pbf mayweather commentary let alone that far back, but around round 2 or 3 of cotto vs judah yes one of the commentators (can't remember which one) used the term 'his been looking for that one all night long' so there ya go you big silly billy

[SkillsSoSmooth]

thanks for coming dumbass :yep :hi:

No problem pedophile :hi:

[IrnBruMan]

oh dickweed look out someone dropped the a-bomb, i can barely remember the pbf mayweather commentary let alone that far back, but around round 2 or 3 of cotto vs judah yes one of the commentators (can't remember which one) used the term 'his been looking for that one all night long' so there ya go you big silly billy

gee, can you refresh my memory, but I don't think Tszyu was involved in that fight? :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

No problem pedophile :hi:

the more you use that term, the more I am inclined to think that you have been involved in those activities as either an innocent child or a deviant elder :think

[HopkinsFan]

gee, can you refresh my memory, but I don't think Tszyu was involved in that fight? :lol:
yes you are stupid thanks for proving that, what the hell does it matter if he was involved in that fight or not? my point is it's a common term that's completely useable after 2 rounds, coz it's still all night.. you lose mutton chops

[SkillsSoSmooth]

the more you use that term, the more I am inclined to think that you have been involved in those activities as either an innocent child or a deviant elder :think

Don't confuse me with your dirty ways jock boy!!, i'm not the one who runs around in a skirt :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

yes you are stupid thanks for proving that, what the hell does it matter if he was involved in that fight or not? my point is it's a common term that's completely useable after 2 rounds, coz it's still all night.. you lose mutton chops

yeah well fuck poor motherfucking you, coz Tszyu KO'd Judah before the 2nd was even over so now I'm asking you for relavance, a'ight? :yep :hi:

I dunno man, did you just come in for a bit of an argument? Cos a bit is all you got man :yep

[IrnBruMan]

Don't confuse me with your dirty ways jock boy!!, i'm not the one who runs around in a skirt :lol:

you =

[SugarRay]

Wrong. Castillo is bigger than Tszyu with better reach. Look it up..

Bigger as in higher weight division. Tszyu has been fighting in a higher weight division than Castillo. I' not sure reach is a good measure of weight. Tommy Hearns would not be considered bigger than Mike Tyson.

Mayweather has the power to hurt. Look it up. He's faster and bigger than Tszyu, and would not let Zoo muscle him around. Tszyu has a puncher's chance. That's it.

True for the lower weights but, his power has not been as effective in th higher weights. Plus Tszyu has a very good chin and would probably not show the same respect for Mayweather's power.

[cuchulain]

Can anyone prove that Tsyzu can land on an truly elite fighter? All you can do is speculate. \

Tszyu did land on Zab, at the time a 'truly elite (unbeaten) fighter.. That punch, if it landed on Floyd (both Zab and Floyd are fast) would probably do the same thing to him. If he did get up and if he didn't chicken-dance, the end would be quick thereafter.

So Tszyu definitely COULD have beaten Floyd.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I would pick Floyd in this one by about 116-112. I also mentioned that I believe there would be about a 40% chance that a prime Tszyu would have KO'd Floyd in the first few rounds.

I still pick Floyd, but it's a risky fight for him.